I don’t understand the left, like nothing they believe in makes any logical sense. I feel like they just say things because it sounds good but they don’t think about the outcomes of their beliefs> get rid of the policeOk. What’s the alternative?> abolish prisonsOk. What’s the alternative?> socialism/communismOk. This has never worked before, why will it this time?> unlimited open border unchecked migrationOk. What are the positive outcomes of this? How does this improve your country?> gender ideologyOk. Does this stand up to any scrutiny? > destroy the patriarchyOk. Has any human civilisation ever successfully had a matriarchy? How would that even work? How would you enforce it?> destroy the nuclear familyOk. What’s the alternative?> multiculturalism Ok. Are people getting along?How did they get such a stranglehold on the zeitgeist that instead of having to actually make any arguments for their ideas they just made it socially unacceptable and politically incorrect to question them in the first place? It’s not that they have arguments to back up something like gender ideology, it’s just socially unacceptable, if not evil, to scrutinise it at all Like what is the Utopian end point they’re searching for with all of this? What does the perfect leftist world look like and how is any of this supposed to function? I’m down with a few left wing views, and this current version of capitalism is clearly demonic, but far-left ideology is like looney tunes fantasy world bullshit
Let's assume you're dealing with retards who genuinely believe this shit.Those who believe we can abolish the police believe things like niggers do crime because of "socio-economic factors" and present Marxist class ideology as the problem. They actually believe that if we simply expand the welfare state some more and just hire more social workers to talk to the niggers that there won't be any crime. It's perhaps the most egregious thing to believe, that people commit crimes BECAUSE they're poor. Not because it's a character/moral failing. There are plenty of poor people that don't do nigger shit like steal, rape and murder and just want to scrape by and earn an honest living.Abolish prisons. I think that stems from the idea that prisons are a form of "punishment" and again, because crimes are only done because of economic reasons, that if you fix this that you won't need prisons, or you replace them with something which is more like communist reeducation or a place where people are simply "rehabilitated" or some shit, like it's a health problem, and not a moral failing.Socialism can work. If your people are high trust, high intelligence. Something like a "mixed economy" might not be the most efficient thing but it could chug along for many decades without a problem. When you import niggers, jeets, chinks, etc, that are lower in trust they will 100% abuse the system and destroy it.>unlimited migrationThis is the most retarded, because even the older left, that cared about workers rights (even if their solutions were all commie), knew that importing workers would suppress wages. I think the modern left rationalise it with "we need workers!" and that we can't get enough people, native birthrate in the toilet, etc. But it's still not convincing. The unlimited migration = good is based on the magic soil theory, that a Somali that moves to Ireland will just magically become Irish and productive just by being here.
>>540406151The gender stuff has its own contradictions. Gender is a social construct, yet trannies need the surgery to "affirm" their gender. And that men and women are equal yet women shouldn't be drafted in a time of war. Etc.>patriarchyI think that it's just a sign of how just comfortable some people are. I've yet to meet a woman who complained about the patriarchy for Ukrainian women, who weren't treated as equals to the Ukrainian men, who were restricted from leaving and who are being drafted to fight for their country. For all the talk of "equality" - they are strangely silent on this issue. So it's obviously just people who are out of touch and have very selective outrage. For example no woman is complaining about the gender ratio in the waste disposal industry. It's only in the higher paid, top jobs that they want equal representation and pay (but there's no talk of them putting in equal time/effort, legally the company has to pay them for months if they have a baby and hire a replacement and so on, so the idea that they should be paid the exact same is insane but they'll still call for it).>destroy the familyI don't think women intentionally cheer for this one. I think they just want to reserve the right to fuck over their husband for any reason, at any time. Much like how they also want to have the right to kill their own unborn child. It's not even about the desire to do so, it's just seeing the advantage for them personally to have it in their back pocket. That this completely fucks over civilisation as a whole because it's fucking with the incentives for a man to marry and start a family in the first place is beyond them, they never think in those terms, only about themselves.>muliculturalismThe main "benefits" they can point to are things like ethnic food. Which, the idea of just making such meals at home seems to be beyond them. They genuinely seem to think we "need" enthics to make and deliver this exotic food.
>>540405010it's ok to be retarded OP, you just dont have inteligence
>>540406362And last point, the reason why I'm mentioning women mostly here is because it's women who seem to be the ones dumb enough to genuinely believe at least some of this stuff and then also with the weaker (physically, mentally) men, they see the women calling for these things (like abortion, "gender pay gap" or that the government needs to pay for their tampons or birth control) and they just cheer along with it. Hoping to get "brownie points" and curry favour (maybe she'll sleep with me! type nonsensical thinking). That's pretty much the modern left.
>left vs rightyou're either irish or you're not. we've always belived in nonsense and destroyed eachother for it. politics is sportball for midwits. enjoy your squabbles and tell me where the non-whites are hiding when the time comes.
Lol op is a stupid faggot redditor
>>540405010Everything you green texted is something I can live with. It's the troon that bed for it that are chickening out.
>>540405010For the average "man in the street" leftist, you are overthinking it. They are the people the ancient Greeks spoke of when they said, "a democracy can only last until the people realize they can vote themselves money out of the public treasury". They want free shit and to indulge their appetites without consequences, and if they can't get it--fuck it--let the world burn.When it comes to the more serious intellectual Marxist, they understand that it is impossible to achieve their utopia because it is contrary to human nature. But Marxism was built around the new "science" of evolutionism. They believed that through directed evolution, they could change human nature, create the "new Soviet man", and make it work. The unspoken foundation of this belief is that it would require culling 99% of humanity incapable of living in their utopia (the gulag system, concentration camps, etc.). The intention was to use the same techniques of selective breeding applied to cattle to human beings to domesticate them.The masses are sold on how great it will be when everything is free, without telling them the real plan is that they will be worked to death or exterminated before the utopia can ever manifest.
>>540406151I don't think anyone (except actual anarchists, who aren't numerous) want to abolish police or prisons.They may want to let certain criminals get away with certain crimes but most of these people believe in very strongly punishing behavior that they find unacceptable.
>>540407403I am a paleo-consevative/traditionalist and I belive police departments should be abolished.They are a relatively modern development. The New York city police department was only established in 1845, and much later in smaller towns. So what did they do for hundreds of years before police departments and prisons? They handled their own business. The sheriff (an elected official, not an appointed bureaucrat unaccountable to the people) would gather a posse and they would lynch people who violated their communities' standards. No need for a professional class to deal with a permanent class of criminals, they just hung the outlaws. They didn't set up a giant beurocracy to deal with a never ending problem.When the towns men decide that they will outsource justice and the monopoly on violence to a professional police force, that is the moment they no longer control their community, their family, and their destiny. That is the moment a bunch of Jew lawyers and their professional mercenaries become the real rulers of the fake democracy.Have we forgotten so soon the pandemic years when the police would kneel before BLM looters and send a swat team to arrest an old lady going to the grocery store without a mask? The police do not work for you. They do not preserve order.It is not merely that police departments are corrupt... the entire structure is unsound. The men of a community MUST enforce their own laws or live as slaves.
>>540408056That's just a different method of policing; the fundamental concept, that being an organized group of people to forcibly suppress criminal activity, is the same.The details of how or if these people are paid or have full-time jobs or how precisely they're organized are just that: details.
>>540407403Black people are ahead of the curve on this one, but they are not wrong. They understand what the police really are. The police are not the men of their community acting to enforce the standards of their community. They are a group of foreigners, (often from the affluent suburbs that do not live in the communities they payrol) who come to work every morning to rule over their district for the benefit of the wealthiest Jews who don't even live in the city.After the summer of 2021, I will never trust the police again. They showed their true face as cowards and tyrants.
>>540408275I don't agree. The difference between telling people how they will behave in your place and having someone tell you how you will behave in your own place is profound. It is not just a detail.The police are there to protect Epstein pedophiles and throw your ass in jail for posting a meme about it. Whether the people exercise that power themselves or have it imposed on them from outside is the most fundamental political issue there is.
>>540408730If you're going about in public then it's not just "your own place", unless you're the tyrant. I'm not disputing that a man's home is his castle but you can't just make like the Jews with their eruvs and declare the whole surrounding area to be your home.
>>540405010>why people that are retarded and evil are retarded and evil?When you know that answer that make your heart at peace and dont want to erradicate all of them, please share.>>540408354>hear a very scary strange noise at midnight>someone have invaded his house almost for sure>call the Cops. Not the Niggers.burguers cant ponderate. just tilt.
what is this garbage? what has asmongold done to these people? they are completely brain dead now. what the fuck is this. bro go to an asylum immediately.
>>540405010>I don’t understand the leftAll you need to know is that they deal entirely in theory, not reality. They never evolved beyond their idealistic school/university mindset. They can't be argued with because their arguments aren't based in reality.
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