Valeriy Zaluzhny just said that NATO needs 12 years minimum to become in even 50% as strong as Russia. He also said that Ukraine currently has no interest in joining this weak/disfunctional military organisation and instead should create its own alliances.https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/valerii-zaluzhny-ukraine-nato-russia-gv2ts6qgqValeriy Zaluzhnys military competence is demonstrated by his profound, realistic assessment of modern warfare. As Ukraines former Commander-in-Chief who led the defense against Russias "invasion", his warning that NATO requires "about 12 years" to reach even half of Russias current technological and military capabilities reflects expert analysis, not exaggeration.His critique is grounded in firsthand experience: NATO still operates on "World War II doctrines" and lags critically in drone and modern warfare. Zaluzhnys bluntness - acknowledging Russian military strength while identifying NATOs technological stagnation - signals a commander who prioritizes strategic reality over political convenience, a hallmark of extreme competence.
>>540412791Bump
>>540413086Hohol telling the truth is a rare phenomenon xD
>>540412791I don't think there's anything surprising about this. NATO armies clearly lack combat experience and therefore lag far behind the armies of Ukraine and Russia.The Serbian/Yugoslav army has always been a piece of shit, and now our army is nothing more than a bunch of idiots who couldn't leave Serbia to clean toilets in Austria.
>>540412791>minefields?>just drive around themt. - nafo
>>540417087https://youtu.be/oOCdYs9TvVA?t=255
>>540412791On other hand; the Kiev regime is 2 decades ahead of every other nation.
>>540417087>>540417165LMAO
>>540412791plot twistother than the dumb ukraininans we have no intention of fighting against the russians
What will demographics look like in Europe 12 years from now? How do elites think they're going to get these populations to fight Russia when it's already unpopular now?
>>540412791I believe it.
we have 8000 drones while russia is churning out 1.5M/year. meanwhile £6B was spent on an armoured vehicle programme that 15 years later has produced 500 lumps of useless steel. our government does not know what it's doing
>Russia is in 1950>NATO is in 1938glorious year ahead of us
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>>540412791If NATO is so weak and so behind then why Russia does not dare to attack it? Shouldn't they win quickly? Unlike in Ukraine?
>>540418940he should say how many decades behind ukraine is natothis crazy relativistic speed the time flies since the start of the war is astounding
>>540418940If NATO is so strong why do they let Russia anally annihilate Ukraine and take 20% of its land? Don't they dare to attack Russia?
Remember a decade ago when European and Democrat faggots were mocking Trump when he he said NATO members weren't meeting their obligations and spending enough on their military?https://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/whats-trumps-position-on-nato/
>>540412791>We didn't want to join your club anyways
>>540419169Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. Why do Ukraine niggers think they are entitled to NATO protection, NATO weapons, and to have NATO soldiers die to protect them when Ukraine has paid nothing into the alliance? Freeloading leech faggots.
>>540418940Zaluzhny is partly right but also exaggerating, after all he's speaking for a primarily domestic audience. NATO is very superior in terms of industrial capacity, ISR and tech. but russia has significant advantage in land warfare and drones & electronic warfare, and of course now has no shortage of experienced warfighters. early on they would likely be advantaged as europe transitions to a war economy, but unlikely to last. it would be catastrophic for everybody involved either way, not worth it
>>540419169Ukraine isn't NATOIt's merely a meat shield, and so desperate they keep their men in not allowing them out while kindapping them off the streets every day
>>540412791>NATO needs 12 years But gayto & coalition of unwilling was strong from 89-11. Wha happun
>>540419625Europe would curmble like France 1940noone here would lift a finger for this nigger shithole
>>540420024sure, just like nobody would die for the backwater shithole that is russia. you'd have no choice
>>540412791If NATO is so far behind, then how come everytime Zelensky opens his mouth its to beg for more military aid?
Russia lost its flag battleship to a country that has no navy.
>>540421614Mutts warships and aircraft-carriers were going through mysterious "repairs" too during the Epstein Furry and finally stay away as far from Hormuz as possible xD
>>540422106Alri tranny
>>540420245they would have an uprising on their handsthis isnt Ukrainethe war is already unpopular before it even strted
>>540412791>we never needed NATO anywayclassic oinker moment
>>540422334Even Trump admitted in front of cameras that Iran launched missiles at carriers/warships once and it forced repositions. No ship is safe nowadays in era of cheap long range hypersonics and drones
>>540418940>why Russia does not dare to attack it? Same reason the US doesn't in Iran
