What do they know that we don't?
>>540424254This is just silly. Western corporations will decide what gets sold to Western consumers. China has to be able to sell to profit.
>>540424254>will not surviveWhere did I hear that phrase first? Anyone?
PHEVs are currently not popular, but they will eventually become more popular than HEVs and BEVs. A car in 2030s will be equipped with over 100GB of Micron mobile DRAM and 8+ Sony image sensors (according to their press releases), consuming massive amounts of electricity. More smart features, more electricity consumed.As a result, people will find BEVs not able to supply enough electricity, leading people to rediscover the true value of gasoline as a generator fuel. Ultimately, PHEVs, which combine the best of both gasoline and battery power, will gain popularity.Once the era of massive electricity consumption arrives, Toyota's Powertrain and Solid-State Battery will both shine in PHEVs. What I'm saying? PHEV is the redpill take.
>>540424254Shit sounds like we need to import a billion browns to destroy our wages by working for pennies to create products that will no longer have a consumer base after brown labor eradicates the middle class!
>>540424254I always see these articles and claims from CEOs and random posters praising China, yet they never say why Chinaman cars and other products are better.
>>540424673I've heard for corporations hybrids are slightly cheaper to produce than ICE vehicles while they still require enough maintenance that corporations can make money off of.
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>>540424673so where do i invest
>>540424254They're in shock and awe of the cheap sweat shop labor policies that we could never import into our own country, OP.Their pussies get soaked marveling at the idea of some low-born gook working mandatory 20hr days for pennies on the dollar and being grateful to the state just to be able to afford his pound of dog meat and 10sqft cage apartment. It's no secret, the wealthy and corrupt will always froth at the mouth for opportunities to exploit their working class the fullest extent of the law.
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>>540424673Image sensors require very little electricity. Thats whycomes there are self driving ubers and lifts with full external 4k hollywood rigs with gimbals and everything. Everything you said was kinda gibberish. So I gotta ask, why spam this topic?
Fagmasons and their goals suck. They will be defeated by people who don't believe in them when given the chance to live without them.
>>540424254I for one, welcome our new chinese god-emperor.
>>540424254They say this to pull investments into their companies, they're just pushing FOMO but the technology rarely ever has any teeth to bite into the market. The point is to get monetary injection that can be embezzled softly into other projects, or their own pockets. If even a 1% annul return comes back to investors, they will be satisfied.
>>540425374Thank you so much for talking
>>540424673Sorry, Toyota won't build the first zaku
>>540424254If western tycoons keep bringing in millions of street shitters we will not survive. They obviously prioritize their aim to destroy the white race, more than they care about their own survival. Niggas will make a trillion dollars, and still try and pinch pennies on labor by bringing in poos
>>540424673> 100GB of Micron mobile DRAMSeems like DRAM will become the new catalytic converter.
>>540425432Chink uses fag flag. It's like pottery.
Probably because they saw the trillions of manufactured suicide drones that they have planned to unleash on YT. LOCUST SWARM!!
>>540424254Anyone with any money gets the hell out of China. Boomer CEOs just want slave labor.
>>540424254They see the stark outcome of 40 years mismanaging their own countries and realize the guillotines are inevitable.
China has state-subsidized billionaires’ socialism on steroids. The largest companies in China are in total monopolies and they’re given favor by the Chinese government to grow. Needless to say, big corporate oligarchs want that here. Big business has never been allergic to communism for this reason. What could be better for a corporate technocrat than to be made the official hyper-wealthy, total monopoly, leader of an organ of the state?
>>540424254China's level of industrialization far exceeds anything the Western imagination can conjure. It's all modernized with precision equipment and there's an infinite number of these clean modern factories in every city. The West has been sleeping for decades on their previous global dominance and are now decades behind in all facets of their societies.
>>540424673Western countires will just ban or heavily discourage private car ownership. They will not be able to over come the energy issue to both make the vehicle more efficient and install all the surveillance and control software they desire. Their only feasible solution is less cars entirely.
>>540424254China has 1,000HP cars faster than a Ferrari selling for $20k and an AI industry where very little money has been invested yet blows the fuck out of American AI that has the entire country's economy tied to it.
>>540425201>They're in shock and awe of the cheap sweat shop labor policies that we could never import into our own country, OP.In actuality- sing Chinese factories is more expensive than many other asian nations- the real efficiency comes fro Chinese industrial capability, interopability and the deep talent pool for nearly any manufacturing process all being readily available and rapidly integrated across highly optimised logistics networks.
>>540426454That's how your nation has been operating since the 1920's and arguably before, it's more shocking that you are oblivious to it.
>>540424823They are not better, just way cheaper. Are you even into cars? The west has been hamstrung by their own governments, no cheap energy plus pushing the climate change scam and making car manufacturers adhere to ridiculous emission regulations is killing the industry and especially in Europe. Go look up Euro7 regulations and the predicted Euro8 regulations.....
>>540425324Image sensor itself doesn't require much electricity, but the current image sensor (I mean, the Sony sensor) isn't just about photodiode, it is multi-layered with photodiode, logic die and memory die. Cu-Cu hybrid bonding itself was developed by Sony, spreading to other chipmakers. This is just another showcase of smart features requiring more electricity like I said.
>>540427080I’m not oblivious to it at all, but we don’t operate that way nearly to the degree China does. For example the utilities monopolies that exist funded by state coffers and laws in China don’t exist in America. If America is billionaires’ socialism, China is billionaires’ socialism on steroids.
>>540424823We actually need to tariff the fuck out of Chinese carsThey are now letting you buy a 1550 horsepower car for $75,000, which basically has the same performance of a $1.5 million Bugatti. This is extremely dangerous for other countries because there will be more vehicles with super car acceleration and speed on the road. There is a reason only 81 Bugattis were delivered last year as the people who tend to buy them are very rich car enthusiasts who know their way around a car.https://youtu.be/a3e3-osCNjc?t=648
>>540427080This. Dodge vs Ford Motor Co lawsuit of 1919 and its consequences have been a disaster for the American race. If only one small american shipbuilder had enough capital to spray ionized titanium plasma on the inside of a cylindrical ceramic mould in order to build a titanium pontoon boat then our entire navy could be sailing with unsinkable titanium hulls by now but noooo>>540397904
>>540424254>We need mo money fo dem (subsidy) programs or sheeitThat's basically it.
>>540426833Comfy to see
>>540424254Billionaires go to China, see what happens when a country isn't run and owned by jews, then come back to America and realize we can't build/repair/conquer anything without either:A: Dismissing all jews and jewish interventionorB: Importing 5 million jeetsGuess which choice they all go with?
>>540424254>What do they know that we don't?It's visa free now, why don't you go there and have a look?
>>540427364>For example the utilities monopolies that exist funded by state coffers and laws in China don’t exist in America. If America is billionaires’ socialism, China is billionaires’ socialism on steroids.Ah I think you may be referencing State Owned Enterprises- it is strange that they fill the state treasury if not through taxes however? Unless the drawdown is operating profits being returned as dividends for investment through the state investment company?
>>540424254YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS AND OP IS A FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>540426454The difference is that billionaires in China disappear the moment they try to gain more power than they should. They just vanish from reality, living in a cell somewhere. That would never happen in America because they already have more power than the government.
>>540424532>Western corporations will decide what gets sold to Western consumers.
>>540427191>The west has been hamstrung by their own governmentsThis, try subscribing to Jake Munro on jewtube and then keep us updated on the muslamic niggerhell of fecaloid globohomo cuckworld>>540427246>a real engineercool, have a u and a titanium pontoon boat pic
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>>540424254>getting the sanitized tour from party officialsThey know about as much as you or me
>>540427551Imagine your average Teslajeet or Chinese grandmother behind the wheel of this thing
>>540424254what they mean is they want the government to stop the free market from raping them
>>540424254Are Chinese Man cars any good? I see Haval's and Chery's everyday. I wonder if the newer models have decent long-term reliability
>>540424254travel to china and you will see.in shanghai the average salary is 4-5K per month, there are more lamborghinis that in the whole of europe, there are drones that deliver you food and if they are 1minute late you get 100% money returned and you still get the food , there are stores with no cashier you just enter pick what you want and when you leave the stop the money is automatically deducted from your bank accountThey are the future
>>540424254>What do they know that we don't?Alot. Like the limit has been reached and we'll return to more basic i.e. not as profitable stuff like cathode ray rubes, rotating disk phones, carburettors mechanical typewritters and such. And there will be a period of adjustment bc people that know how that worked are gonna few and far inbetween. And we'll prolly see the old empires i.e US and EU succomb and disintegrate with the usual issues associated with it. Not comfy at all.
>>540427551Its crazy cause if they let Chinese cars into the US market they'd wipe out the big auto companies. You can buy a brand new shitbox for $5k - yea it probably sucks ass but having that versus paying fucking $40k + insurance + interest on a crappy toddler ipad box is still a better deal
>>540429137>They are the futureNope. They are an illusion.
>>540427551I am waiting for the base model to come to europe, iirc it has 320hp which is plenty, but after all the taxes it will probably still be 50k.
>>540429137>there are stores with no cashier you just enter pick what you want and when you leave the stop the money is automatically deducted from your bank account Isn't that what those Amazon stores do
>>540429365Says increasingly nervous man. Napoleon even called it
>>540429521The raiforest ?
>>540429365>Nope. They are an illusion.I dont a communist future either>>540429521I have no idea, never seen stuff like that anywhere elseI did not mean self-checkout btw
>>540429547>increasingly nervous man. On the contrary I'm quite calm and happy all this mess will end even if that means a period of hardship.>Napoleon even called itThe guy that lost to cold and got his scrawny frog faggot ass exiles to some island where he died of mold spores intoxication?Yeah I'mma gonna disregard his opinions.
>>540424254Alright basically BYD is vertically integrated, they make 60% of the components that go into their cars under one roof. The rest of it is built nearby. Can Japanese automakers also do this? Absolutely. They already are. The only difference then is the Chinese have lower labor costs. Big deal. Labor makes up such a small percentage of the total cost, Japanese companies can just straight compete with Geely and BYD. Japan has no trouble whatsoever relearning the ropes. BYD is making $8,000 cars that blow up, Japan is making $10k Hiluxes that last forever. That's the major difference. This is public posturing.
>>540426833No it doesn't, and you're a retard.
>>540424254China has slave labor and we can't compete.
>>540429702>I dont a communist future eitherNo sane person would want that. Objectively they can't sustain this. And as I've seen the chinks it's all smokes and mirrors. Their coastal cities and capital are high tech but I'm suspecting their inner ones are something out of the 80's or worse like rural vietnam during the us invasion.
>>540424254>everything is robots>practically minimum peopleJapan could only dream of this, they still value human touches, so they can't get rid of it.It's really a nationalism vs capitalism problem.Do you fire mass amount your fellow citizens to maximize profits, and create a group homeless people, and their families hope dreams become harder, or do you keep them an make a bit of profit.
>>540430051do you buy a soulless chink car or a handmade japanese automobile?Nissan was making the Tsuru in Mexico for $7500, it was cheaper and is still better than the BYD Seagull.
>>540429702Yeah like you just walk straight out. I think Amazon has stores where you can do that
>>540426833>China has 1,000HP cars faster than a Ferrari selling for $20kits actually like $100k lol. its literally in line with tesla plaid pricing >>540429909they are, the problem is the labor pool. toyota and other carmakers are extremely vertically integrated down to sourcing their own steel/glass in house (aichi steel and asahi glass)japanese companies are behind the big push for international migration into japan in the form of south asians (jeets) filipinos viets and brazilians
>>540424254They've started restricting rich people from leaving the country and have blocked some dual citizens who came to visit from leaving.
>>540430218Honda de mexico is still one of the largest carmakers in the world. Mexican labor is cheaper than Chinese labor, and Mexicans are more likely to go to work and less likely to jump off the roof. It's like 36% cheaper to make a car in Mexico than it is to make a car in China.
>>540430385per vehicle labor in mexico is HALF of what it is in China. It's like $300 of the vehicle's total cost vs over $600 in China
>>540424254They build shitIt's as simple as that>>540424673Jesus almighty just make a car go vroom and go to point A and B, enough of this computer shit
>>540426833if that was true, we'd have webms of them slamming into dead end concrete barriers and such
>>540424254Why do you think the Bidens took Joe's 13 year old granddaughter along for their business trip? Gotta offer something up if you want to walk out of there with millions of CCP money
>>540430571This, literally make the Nissan Tsuru, modernize it for safety, and send it. I want a brand new $15,000 car made in Mexico that will pass modern emissions and safety tests. It needs to have nothing but roll up windows, a basic AMFM radio, air conditioning, heating, and those cheap backup cameras they made law for some gay reason.
>>540429909>Japan is making $10k Hiluxes that last foreverThat will never be sold in the USA because of the chicken tax
Correct me if I'm being schizo, but it seems like a lot of the China hysteria is just an excuse to treat citizens in the west like shit.>We have to import a zillion Indians for their tech talent or China will win>We have to spy on you harder or China will win>We have to cut workers protections and regulation or China will win>We can't invest in alternative energy like China does or China will win.
>>540430740that and they don't pass NHTSA safety regulations. It would be a very popular farm truck
>>540424532West doesn't produce, it'll be funny if they decide to stop buying too.GeeDeePee will materialize into tangible resources, I'm sure!
>>540430780You're not a schizo, it's 100% correctAll of this bullshit is because China is proving that this dei jewish finance shit is inferior to a monocultural, monoracial, fascist (because thats what it really is) system.The saddest thing is that the USA could beat China if it dropped DEI and told Israel to fuck off
>>540424532China can sell to the rest of the globe
>>540424532Anon the internet exists, if they try to ban a digital thing Americans can and will just download it. Youre going to arrest an American for downloading a chinese made AI?
>>540427551>We actually need to tariff the fuck out of Chinese carsWhy? If luxury cars can be provided to plebs then there’s no reason not to do so except to create artificial scarcity and suffering so that richfags can feel better about themselves
>>540430780Apparently, China winning means that everyone, rich and poor, can get their own robot servants and luxury cars. Of course the western elites don’t want this because they want their subjects to be poor and miserable. Western elites are sadistic and get off on the misery and humiliation of their cattle
>>540426454>Needless to say, big corporate oligarchs want that here.They already get it here. What are you babbling about?
>>540430740Just shut up and enjoy your Tacoma, goy
>>540425201Bottom 50% of Chinese have DOUBLE the net worth of the bottom 50% of Amerigoyim. You lost, chud
>>540426454American oligarchs get all the same benefits, so why is China rising when America is rapidly collapsing?
>>540431910Honestly I would be happy with a tacoma but they're overpriced as fuck
>>540424254>What do they know that we don't?they see a benevolent dictatorship ruled and managed by engineers and educated people, meanwhile in the west they see an authoritarian anarcho-tyranny ruled by failed lawyers that only know to pass more laws to restrict economic and civil liberties despite not being qualified to do so...China is what the west fears because its a reflexion of how backwards our hemisphere has become thanks to lawyers and law schools.
>>540432076Production capacity, less parasitic rentier drag, and a state that is broadly interventionist in the economy.Meanwhile, we are terminally infected with conservatism that pretends money needs to "come from somewhere" first and pretend that we literally can't do things because we can't "afford them".Deindustrializing the US was all about 1) hurting their workers 2) funneling supply through importation channels they controlled 3) abstracting the means of production out of the country and away from the population under attack (you can't seize what isn't there).
>>540424254Turn millions into slaves and you can compete too!
>>540432076America is hard pushing for automation while China is heavily subsidizing its workforce with the money it's lending itself. To China, temporary short-term gains are worth the long-term headache because it's a face-saving culture and nothing is more important than looking good on paper. China's Debt/GDP ratio is currently about 450% and ours is 121%
>>540424254They aren't, they just pretend to be so they can crank up their profits.
>>540432588China is orders of magnitude more automated than the United States.
>>540427551Why don't more Chinese own these?Seems that is unaffordable to most and they would increase the price if they sold it in the West.
>>540432588>China's Debt/GDP ratio is currently about 450% and ours is 121%This also doesn't matter. Not for us and not for China. Both countries are monetary sovereigns.
>>540432588>temporary short-term gains are worth the long-term headache because it's a face-saving culture and nothing is more important than looking good on paper.That's the USA right now
>>540424823Performance wise Chinese cars are matching or exceeding other cars. As for "luxury" they kinda are just doing random shit because they got to compete with a bunch of other companies doing random shit.
>>540432832In china, it's an order of magnitude worse. China lends itself money to spend on programs to push GDP growth, that's like printing money today to realize gains tomorrow. The problem with this is thatIn the 2000s, it took roughly 1 to 2 yuan of new credit to generate 1 yuan of GDP growth. Today, it takes over 5 to 7 yuan of debt to generate that same 1 yuan of growth, because money is being funneled into unprofitable infrastructure.And this is unsustainable.
>>540432951>unprofitable infrastructureWhat are you even talking about? Stop posting. You don't understand how monetary sovereigns operate.
>>540432914Mexico eats china's lunch in car production. Honda already manufactures export models in Mexico where it's like 36% cheaper to make a car than it would be in China. It's also much better because mexico has free trade agreements with something like half of the countries in the world. Chinese shipping is expensive, cars from mexico come over on trains and trucks.
>>540432951Ok so why is the average Chinese person living better by the year meanwhile the average american can't afford groceries or rent or even a house?
Their main fear is the high level of state control over companies and senior corporate officersThey're used to having power over politicians not the other way around
>>540424254An ethnostate
>>540433042The USSR was also a monetary sovereign, why don't you cram it up your own ass?
>>540424823China has World leading productivity per worker (gdp per capita is fake) because they have levels of industrial machinery and automation comparable to the west, but their financial sector is comparatively small and the top banks are state owned.
>>540433106Define averageMost Chinese are still rural peasantsThe sheer numbers of Chinese in existence hide that fact to some extent as we see the massive cities and presume the countryside is empty
>>540433112They fear fascism, the same kind Hitler used to reign in corpos to have them produce for the benefit of the people and nation.
>>540433106Because you're being lied to. The average Chinese is in debt up to their eyeballs.
>>540424254>What do they know that we don't?That they've accidentally parasitized their host nations so badly they won't be protected when China decides to kill them.
>>540433171Their standard of living is going up meanwhile mine is going down>>540433218So why can't I afford a house in my own country?
>>540433141China has a level of productive infrastructure the USSR could only dream of. And I don't think the propaganda is going to work on them this time around. It certainly didn't back at Tianaman, why would it now?
>>540433106>>540433218Many bought homes for investments, now prices are back down to decade low and are about the same or less when they bought.I've read they don't actually own their homes either, it's a 99 year lease.
People who expect fair wages, healthcare, severance pay, unions, maternity leave, 401k matching, safe working conditions, vacation time, overtime pay, and strict controls on working hours can't compete with bug slave people who are fed into lathes and have to be physically prevented from jumping to their deaths from factory windows.Is that a competition you really want to win?
>>540433251You can, i see houses for sale for $40-50k all the time. The reason the housing market is retarded is our regulators aren't going after the private equity firms and real estate developers who are buying and hoarding these properties.
>>540424254Because the scope of their industry is gigantic, they visit plants that are 10x or 20x the size and efficiency that they have back home and it shocks them
>>540433326Yes all land is leased from the state, its the main means by which local governments are able to raise revenueRevenue from which they have to pay all their costs
>>540433278The propaganda wont work because despite China's authoritarian system, it fucking works and most of the population is living ok>>540433326>I've read they don't actually own their homes either, it's a 99 year lease.It's no different than property taxes>>540433355Ok but I want to afford a house in MY OWN STATEAnd it's not a blue state either
>>540428119>Guess which choice they all go with?Importing 5 trillion jeets
>>540424532Do you realize that most western manufacturers are just buying parts from china and doing only assembly? In many cases the assembly is done in china as well. Look up any western brand in any store and chere made in label.
>>540433355>private equity firms and real estate developers who are buying and hoarding these properties.Are they really paying the max amount for these homes? That doesn't seem logical when prices are slowly falling and sales are pretty flat. At one point homes were selling for tens to a hundred thousand over asking price, in cash.
>>540432588>muh GDPYou have it completely backwards, China is heavily investing in automation to replace their aging workforce while America is heavily investing in importing infinity jeets. Also no one but Jewish oligarchs gives a fuck about muh GDP. American oligarchs already see the writing on the wall, picrel
>>540433390The government could sort this out right now by threatening a 5% tax on vacant housing units.
>>540433500>At one point homes were selling for tens to a hundred thousand over asking price, in cash.Because yankee and caliniggers were selling off their overpriced properties and using the money to buy what was cheaper in the Sunbelt or in Rocket mountain states
>>540433390>Be American>Have to rent month to month, at the mercy of a landlord who, even if you have a lease, can break it, sell it out from under you, or constructively evict you at any moment with no recourse (good luck trying to fight it) >criticize secure, 99 year leases backed by the govt in China.
>>540432076Because america's (and Europe's) parasites add absolutely NOTHING of value and they take too much, but produce NOTHING, worse, they waste resources, time and people's health in fucking jews and niggers.It's like giving a super computer to monkeys, the super computer is worth nothing if you do that
>>540433251You can, you just don't want to move cities.
>>540433386This is hilariously wrong. There is no property tax in China
>>540432139It's pretty much why euro leaders don't want to be associated with chinks despite potential benefits, because they know chinks would cut all those fake companies that are just an excuse for money laundering
>>540432139>benevolent dictatorshipThe Chinese government are slavers who endorse slavery and allow it as long as the companies involved can manage it effectively. Any fish out of China is farmed by slave labor. Any cotton from China was picked by slave labor.
>>540433631>you just don't want to move cities.It's not that I dont want to, its more like I cant
>>540429274>yea it probably sucks assnews flash. american cars have sucked ass since 2008, and they've only gotten remarkably worse since then
>>540433231Yep, you can actually see jews and their jeets making anti china threads and being super defensive about this. But you can tell how they fear we are right when we remind them that all chinks have to do is wait while the retarded jew keeps destroying it's host I mean, in 3 generation China's competition will be...what, a Europe and America full of 90 iqs?
>>540433647Correct because the land is leased
American manufacturing = buying Chinese parts, shipping them to the US, and putting them together in a factory somewhere. One of the reasons why CHINESE manufacturing rules is because the entire supply chain is in one location or city. Nobody in the US is making circuit boards, logic circuits, switches, etc. And if they are, it would be 3x what a Chinese supplier would be able source it for you.
>>540433760that sad reality is that as time passes we have less and less civil and economic liberties in the west than previous generations had.The benevolent dictatorship is on the spot, because China actually cares about the quality of life of its citizens, meanwhile in the west we have failed lawyers who take bribes from lobby groups and make our lives more miserable every day, China took millions out of poverty meanwhile in the west we are becoming poorer by the day while the 1% becomes richer.The policies of china in the last 10 years has been increasing domestic consumption, that means improving purchasing power, meanwhile even in America purchasing power has been decreasing and even electronics are not being transformed into a luxury.If a chinese billionare fucks up he is taken by the ball and the CCP reminds them that they should not cross red lines.Meanwhile an American Billionare can steal in front of the public and gets no consequence for their delincuente actions.If you say that the CCP are just a bunch of authoritarian jerks you could be right, but its also true that western goverments are becoming worse by the day, we are not even a consumer or electorate in their eyes any more.
>>540434254>delincuentedelinquent
>>540426661China is at an early 1990s tech level, Jiang.
>>540424532Thats why eevry product of the last 30 years has "Made in China" stamped on it, right little bro?
>>540430725why would automakers do that? they'd need to sell 15 of those to gain the same profit that they'd make on one pickup truck.
>>540433835The 99 year lease serves the same purpose as eminent domain and is in reality never utilized, there was actually pretty big controversy surrounding nail houses getting in the way of China’s infrastructure, they could have just seized them but they didn’t. In reality it’s only used in cases of abandoned buildings. The lease is always renewed at little to no cost. You don’t know what you are talking about
>>540430740The chicken tax is an antiquated thing from 60 years ago and it was targeted at German not Japanese trucks.
This is how most Chinese outside tier 1 coastal cities live.
>>540434583>chinese peasants have private courtyards
>>540434583Coming soon to a US state near you, and you have to live near niggers and indians
>>540434707You dont need or deserve a private courtyard. That's how the socialists live. You should live within your means, not trying to eat burritos all day in your studio apartment.
>>540434583>This is how most Americans live inside tier 1 citieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snN0PNZVWNADo not spit to the sky chud...
>>540424254China holds most of the world industry, that's a fact.We can't compete with them because no sane Westerner would work the amount of hours a Chinese citizen works, with lack of rights and miserable wages at the end of the month.What the West CAN do is tariff the shit out products coming from China, to protect their own economies.Eventually though, even the Chinese will have to realize that being one of the wealthiest nations on earth, and being paid dimes as wages isn't right, and it will happen, we just don't know when.
>>540424254China is winning because they have good leadership
>>540434855Or you could just kick out the jews and tell shareholders to eat a loss and start hiring white men again
>>540434389This is the kind of Western delusions I'm talking about.
>>540426454>China has state-subsidized billionaires’ socialism on steroids. The largest companies in China are in total monopolies and they’re given favor by the Chinese government to grow. Needless to say, big corporate oligarchs want that here. Big business has never been allergic to communism for this reason. What could be better for a corporate technocrat than to be made the official hyper-wealthy, total monopoly, leader of an organ of the state?Every accusation is a confession, lemon socialism is socialized losses and you can't deny that.
>>540425201Chinks workers PPP is like x2 higher than yours, and the ownership rate at 30yo is 95% so... Have you ever been to an assembly line worker's appartment in the Hubei province? Because i did, and they got better living standards than my engi ass here in France these days.Chinks worked hard, said no to corruption (ie we accept jewish investment monies but we wont accept your "values") and kept their shit together, and now are reaping the rewards for it. Why is this so hard to understand to the average migger?
>>540424254It’s not hard to understand, there are 1.3 billion people in china and they’re increasing their per capita wealth, the west just doesn’t have the numbers to compete, especially now around 20-30% of people living in the west are unproductive brownshits.
>>540428431It’s just not true. China is a one-party uniparty state where the CCP and the oligarch business owners are one and the same social club. Even the infamous Jack Ma just got sent on a little vacation to Japan. >>540431810>>540432076>>540434935You guys don’t know what you’re talking about and naive about what happens. In America, our billionaires’ socialism subsidized a top end market place. The average boomer can get rich just buying up real estate. Anyone can start a business and in theory get rich. The bottom pay the taxes but the top bracket is fluid. In China, everything is 100% state patronage. It’s a total monopoly “market”. The CEO of China’s largest company is Xi Jinping’s brother ffs. He was practically appointed by emperor Xi. The degree to which it’s a naked one party billionaires’ socialist paradise is magnitudes greater than the current United States. That’s why all the Jews and capitalists gaslight you about having to beat China. They want that for themselves.
The average urban working class in China lives like this.
>>540424254drones. They are making trillions of drones that are aerial and naval drones as well as submersible patrol drones with a shit load of sensors. The surveillance sensor drones build upon the weather balloon framework where it was destroyed by the mightiest military in the world. Not let alone DeepSeek and open source is unfokding all the sanctions tariffs and restrictive policies because that control is gone.
>>540424254The Jews thought they defeated all alternatives to liberal capitalism. They embraced Fukuyama’s "End of History" thesis - a theory that, like Marxism, is rooted in Hegelian dialectics, only it sees history progressing towards liberal democracy due to being the "system of ultimate recognition" and self actualization, Marx saw history as progressing based on economic relations, workers recognizing the inherent class contradiction in capitalism. As it turns out, China has consistently remained at the forefront of the times, possessing an understanding of dialectical materialism far superior to that of any Western nation - blending communism, nationalism, capitalism aiming to build a powerful state capable of sustaining its people which is the fundamental principle of governance. China's vanguard party is a dictatorship of the proletariat (Marx) that is generating wealth to achieve resource consolidation for socialism and uses ever changing development to progress history (NEP, Deng)
>>540424532>pretending to be retardedthis bait is still pretty good ngl
>>540434254Riches in the west are just too miserable so they are obsessed with making the rest miserable
China is capitalism but without jews trying to make everything and everyone miserableThe secret is not about turning to comunism but about not letting a death cult decide our future
>>540433760>The Chinese government are slaversAnd what exactly is the difference here in the West under the yoke of Central Bank money printing?
Of the 161 posts in here, at least 100 are one chink and his VPNs.
White/Jewish America and EU thought they had China under their thumb with the market plans. They thought it would allow them to keep China firmly under their control. They made a fatal error rooted in an arrogant miscalculation assuming that integrating China into their supply chains would force the country to submit to capital, creating a relationship of subordination akin to that of the post-WWII Marshall Plan with Japan, South Korea, Germany and so on. However, they grossly underestimated China’s strength and failed to grasp the strategy Deng Xiaoping implemented which was a market economy that was simultaneously liberalized and state controlled, designed to harness market mechanisms to achieve national objectives. Blinded by arrogance and an undercurrent of condescending racism against Chinese people, the US did not realize this until much later.
>>540435337Also politicians having SOME class and not stealing THAT much. Plus too many fake companies
china won alaska will be russian again
>>540435411You can't avoid reality. Jews suffocated productive people (read: white men) too much. That's a reality.
>>540424254>Western tycoons>Toyota
>>540424903Even if that's true the significant increase in fuel efficiency is worth it alone. Especially with Zion Don in office
>>540424823>>540424532>>540424254they go on Wine and Dine tours no different from North Korea and think it's an authentic experience.>no one would lie to me I'm an important personthey're fucking retarded.if an incel spends two weeks backpacking they'd know the place fucking sucks.but these assholes see only the tippy tippy top of excellence which requires absolute subjugation of the 99.5% and they're sold and then try to implement it here. just imagine Trudeau on a river boat looking at LEDs. ooooh sparkly. China fucking sucks. the Chinese model fucking sucks. Chinese people suck.our "elites" are not impressive.
>>540434583>>540434899>>540434958>>540435121The US developed nuclear weapons before most American households even had indoor plumbing. The average person's life really isn't relevant to massive states like those
>>540424532if they embraced America First and returned to like the Detroit days it'd be fine. if they gave us actual cars that were cool it'd be fine.these are absolute retards who need to slave maxx so that they can surveillance maxx while enshittifilying everything.>60k for a plastic Honda that spies on you>we have to because of Chinawhere scooters explode and factory workers get eaten
>>540435693Ok but I can't afford a house, brown people are being flooded into the country, and if I were to lose my job, I couldn't find one in less than six months because I'm a white male.Meanwhile the average Han Chinese has a state backing him up, can afford to have a place of his own, and work is available
>>540434903White men, won't work for 500€/$ a month producing shit like Chinese will.That's exactly the problem, your only realistic chance is either the Chinese work force rebels (won't happen any time soon), or you protect your economies with tariffs to products that are made in China, Chinese products or not btw.
>>540424551>>540425252not a coincidence.
>>540435839Oh well
>>540435744The USA didn't even do all the work for its nuclear programRelied on the UK to provide the theoretical data that told them how to do itAnd the UK did that when most of its people had neither indoor plumbing and lived in abject poverty
>>540429909>Japan is making $10k Hiluxes that last foreverThey haven't made a decent Hilux this millenium.They're plastic garbage with a premium price tag and only exist now as builders utes. Farmers ditched the Hilux decades ago because they can't drive off road.When I drive around town there are lots of jacked up off-road Hilux's and they're all from the 1990's, still kicking. There's none from 2000-2015 because they're already broken, lots of modern Hilux's but none of them are jacked up for offroad and have building company logos on them. Always clean with no scratches. Just a Gucci bag for men coasting on the reputation of the old models.
>>540424254Because they see the dark factories and realized America invested in porn and jews instead of staying ahead.
>>540435832China’s unemployment rate is literally 2-3x higher than the US according to their own official data, schizo
>>540424254I am sure these CEOs said that, as I'm sure they also said "Our cars are obsolete now. Buy Chinese!"
>phew!!! I'm back at the cattle ranch! ugh!! I'm safe to scam, rape, murder and worse still!!
>>540427191>>540426833this short video explains it better than I couldhttps://youtu.be/S9kTeEshewY
>>540426661China strategy: make factories, subsidize goods for the good of the people / nation (even if they don't care about the people at all, the higher quality of life lets them maintain political power)US strategy: fuck white people, we need more DEI. Also don't forget to donate to Israel today stupid goy. Here have some glyphosate I mean bread.EU strategy: hol' up I can't talk now need to import mass refugees and jail people for posting to facebook complaining about themChina may not care about its people but at least they recognize there's utility in keeping them happy / pretending to care. And they actually punish / execute those responsible for things like the baby formula scandal instead of pardoning them or promoting them.
>>540435960Present the stats and tell me how they calculate them
>>540436001This, the Chinese system is not perfect but since Europe and America refuse to go back to what made them work and not rocking the boat, it's looking better by the day despite it being awful compared to late 20th Century America
>>540435120>The average boomer can get rich just buying up real estate. Anyone can start a business and in theory get rich.In practice, in globohomo, you get rich based on who you know. Everyone knows this. In China, you have to compete through exams with everyone else. So, if your state enables a mentally disabled man who shouldn't have even graduated from uni, like Newsom, to attain positions of power just because a billionaire liked his dad, your state is inefficient when it comes to getting the talented into positions of power. Until globohomo implements a gaokao and decent public education, you can't really claim China is less fair than globohomo
>>540426454>China has state-subsidized billionaires’ socialism on steroidsBAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!! Holy shit like buy a fucking mirror if you can afford one nigger. China will actually execute their billonares and the political apparatus does its job and keeps them on a leash. Not in chains to be clear. They let them maneuver its just when they see them roam towards the jewish homosexual pitbull they yank the leash.
>>540424254If you weren't a retard you'd know every industry does this to get government gibs
>>540427551bugattis are fucking gay. why would we protect them.when the quartz crystal came out a Timex told better time than a Rolex.buggatis had a good run. just make American cars. the kind that were popular. and then let the chinky Timex knockoffs compete.
>>540436001You summed it up perfectly. For example, the squinty chicoms only care about the environment in so much as it might influence their external face and reputation. Same deal as Pandas. They only care about saving the pandas because they see them as popular symbols that represent them and do so to save face. Asiatic cultures inherently prioritize "face."Basically they don't give a shit about the environment but they give a shit about saving face which ironically improves their environment. It's paradoxical.>Since 2008, pollution countrywide has declined by about 40 percent, and by about 50 percent in Beijing. Because of these reductions, Chinese citizen can expect to live 2 to 4 years longer. This come from air pollution measured by US embassies in China as well as hyper-localized satellite pollution measurements for the entire world.https://aqli.epic.uchicago.edu/news/pollution-in-beijing-is-down-by-half-since-the-last-olympics-adding-four-years-onto-lives/>Annual deaths from air pollution in China peaked in 2013 and are now below 1990 levelshttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/10/pollutionwatch-air-pollution-in-china-falling-study-shows>A quarters of the world's new reforestation comes from China.https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144540/china-and-india-lead-the-way-in-greening
>>540429274good. our cars suck ass. this kind of competition is how things work because without it the direction things are going is nightmarish. if one company returns to the fundamentals and builds cars that were cool like they used to be for decades they'd win. every single company adopted the gay spy model. so every single company can suck ass
>>540435832Also most people of other groups will all back each other out of race solidarity, white people are more likely to attack their own.
>>540436246can't make old American cars, too many jew laws set up to protect American jew car industrywatching China run circles around us hits different,especially when all we have to look forward to is....uh....literally fucking nothing? besides enslavement to jeets and more niggers
>>540433777checked. theyre terrible. and unamerican.
>>540434976did you go there on your own or were you taken there as part of a diplomat tour
>>540432588Wrong actually.They do organize their labor, this is correct. The factory job is disappearing at a rapid rate. Workers weren't thrown out to the streets though. They retrain their workers to do something else. Does the worker lose, yes nut at least they are not treated like used condoms.
>>540435832by backing him up do you mean booting him in the head?they're slaves anon. just because we are now also becoming slaves doesn't make China cool.
>>540433777check for veracitynew cars are status symbols for women to flaunt at their jewish daycare jobs
>>540432588what automation?with what nonjeet workforce?with what base national industries to back it up?
>>540431202You can't download a BYD retard...
>>540436485So why is it so hard for our fucking retarded ass politicians to take the fucking hint and do what is right to make America great again?
>>540428431>That would never happen in America because they already have more power than the government.Presently, because globohomo is getting smaller, they've been taking over what little direct power the globohomo public sector had left over.>picrel
>>540435839no. make American products that people like. duh. Chinese crap will always be Chinese crap. we had this same problem with Honda and Toyota. but Ford and Mustang were cool then so it was fine.now that American shit is shit and communist crap they're threatened because they're competing ONLY on price. we've copied their cheap communist crapboxes exactly. no soul. so fuck em.
>>540436001>China may not care about its people but at least they recognize there's utility in keeping them happyTHIS. At least our elites should just let us fucking live but NO, we must suffer for some fucking reason (well because elites are misandrist and depressed). It's why jews can't buy chinks, a chink would think why would he go to Epstein island to be recorded? He could just fuck in his home. And they see rituals as something retarded and for low brain peopleIt's like being farmers, the farmer IS the one serving the animals, NO vice-versa. So chinks keep their animals healthy and happy enough while the jews mistreat and kill their animals to feel superior then cry why the chink farmer is winning
>>540424254because they can't compete and they know it
>>540436485>becominglolhans gets the hans boot to the headwe get multiple kike boots to the head,a nigger dick in our arse and a jeet pickpocketing hand in our pockets
>>540425201The image of the soot covered Chinese child toiling away in a factory is ancient propaganda. Their auto factories are clean and mostly automated.
>>540424254maybe china has a better industry culture
>>540436356well then too fucking bad.Every car company (Rolex) started making cheap crap (Timex Quality) but still want Rolex prices and are now upset that Timex wants to sell actual Timex. fuck them all. every car is shit.
>>540436415The dipolomatic tours are such bullshit, this ABC news reporter just went there recently to cover their EVs and then tells us how awesome and ahead they are, even though the exact opposite is truehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sovr-Lxslhc
>>540428431I think the alibaba guy settled for being an agricultural professor in the phillipineswonder what leverage the ccp has
>>540436538because they are promised they will get to live like the slave owners. they are betraying America and American values for gibs and bribes. simple as. it happened in Rome and everywhere else. they are treated like royalty in China and then think - we can do that here! I hate my constituents anyway because I'm beholden to them and I resent that so I just have to erode their civil liberties a little and I will profit in the short term. maybe they're convinced America is already a sinking ship so they grab a handful of loot on the way out.>momentum>opportunism>writing on the wall
>>540435395The Chinese are using forced labor, working people to death on literal slave ships. No money. You die you die, if you live you get to work longer. A bunch of these are North Koreans.
>CHINK CARS ARE EVIL AND SHIT!!!>can we bu->NOO YOU FUCKING CAN'T BUY ONE, TRAITOROUS FUCK!!! THEY ARE TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE AMERICAN ROADWAYS>oh BTW we just gave a hundred million Indians who can't speak english CDLs lol get fucked
>>540436538even if they wanted to, they drive by a Walmart and see goblins and demons wearing pajamas and think it probably won't work. .I don't fucking know the solution. but something needs to happen.Balkanize or Byzantium or whatever. it's acceleratinginstead we will see full blown Bolshevik revolution by 2033 complete with flock lockdowns and palantir lists.
>>540436694>maybe china has a better industry cultureI discovered last week that there is an obscene amount of chinese movies, free to watch on youtube, no subscription fees no credit card payment or whatever.There could be years of chinese cinema on youtube and its actually good quality, better than hollywood slop, and most of them subbed to english.And you have all kinds of genre, from historical films of ancient china, to WW2 and Korean war, to love dramas or comedies, or even modern warfare.The war movies are actually quite good, those that involve westerners or americans are actually portraid not as dumb enemies like hollywood movies but as brave soldiers who often fight coordinated and smart, no westeners doing woke, just what you would expect from an American GI in the 1940s/50s...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBY_6c7cDAA
>>540436778>The exact opposite is trueAccording to who? You?
>>540424823They're much cheaper and much better
>>540436914>No money. You die you die, if you live you get to work longer. got it, anon, so no difference at all
>>540436914sounds like Amazonever worked at amazon? people drop dead and get fired for getting hemorrhoids (from waging too hard)during medical leaveim sorry I don't fucking believe you anymore.
>>540434976>Chinks workers PPP is like x2 higher than yours, and the ownership rate at 30yo is 95% so... Have you ever been to an assembly line worker's appartment in the Hubei province? Because i did, and they got better living standards than my engi ass here in France these days.Your problem is that you're a dirt poor Europoor who is the victim of 20 years of stagnation. I laugh at chinks and Europoors in my 300k American salary.
>>540436087Really appreciate the lectures on entrepreneurship from the beaner. Maybe a sub-Saharan African can teach me how to educate people next.
>>540436966>portraidportrayed
>>540424254While I agree things most change. Jap brand's have something. Proven reliance. Still over priced
>>540436778it's offensively retarded. I went alongside a school trip 10 years ago and noticed it. none of them did. I paralleled their bullshit trip with an authentic one of my own. it's the 99.5% propping up a handful of North Korean style assholes. and they bribe whitey the exact same way NK would.I'm reminded of that webm of the handicapped person transfixed by the LED lights.
>>540436065The problem is that the people currently in power in globohomo are the ones that stand to lose the most from copying the chinese model to try and compete. If globohomo hadn't gone with financial expansion/thatcher/reagan, the american empire would have a fighting chance.
>>540436778ABC just misspelled "choked" on their latest video thumbnail.we have adopted the communist model. we WILL have full blown Bolshevik lockdowns by 2033
Palmer Luckey the Merlin Jew describes China and his 60 minutes interview recently as having a "favorable labor environment" which is the slave slavery
>>540424254Source: my yellow ass
>>540436778I also enjoy the 1:40 mark>Listen to how quiet it isA big part of that is you don't have niggers, beaners, and jeets just blasting stuff, having random street fights, and other subhuman activities.Fuck having a mono culture though am I right.
>>540436976how dare you not>trust the expertswho are you to have>discernmentthat's dangerous!you can't report me for that yet commie bitch. but you're chomping at the bit knowing it's only a few years away.
>>540437194and that Han are bred slaves. they'd get cattle prodded by one another for stepping out of line.>just how they (the useful idiot) like itTHIS IS EARLY DAYS BOLSHEVISM. IM TELLING YOUI AM AS CONFIDENT OF THIS AS I WAS OF COVID. every lever of power is wielded by an evil midwit
>>540437201So you are the expert? Thank you for telling me not to trust you. Its like you need.... proof. Huh, what does that word mean?
>>540437312>Still thinks China has Mao policies which it gave up in the fucking 1970s.Wow, tell me more Mr.Expert. Please post wisdom.
>>540436778>I walk around a random corner and van there is history and culture in front of meTHAT IS THE IPPOSITE OF TRUE. this insufferable bitch. she was there for two days tops and they put her in a hotel in the center of whatever they wanted to show her.China is a soulless shirhole. I expected to find culture and history on any corner like she says but that's a lie. I could feel a haunting ghost of culture but it was totally stripped away. maybe 100 years ago. today it is a soulless husk. 1 million people will be compelled by this video not thinking twice. far fewer will go see for themselves for more than a couple days.that merkel clip where she takes the flag out of the guys hand on stage? China did that by murdering people for a couple decades. some buildings remain for tourism. but culture and history(soul)?? no. NO! LIES. she's lying. I wish. that's why I went. it's a lie.
I wouldn't start talking about "bred slaves" because we have a entire white skyscraper made of glass here...
>>540437521And what does America have to offer when we are getting rid of what made America valuable in the first place?
Have you seen endless videos of things randomly exploding or the streets and buildings falling off in China? That's your new Chinese EV down the line.
>>540433343The problem is that at this point Europe's problem is not being not competitive, but barely having actual working production at all. Partly due to the loss of cheap Russian energy but also because braindead decisions. We cannot even build cheap, uncomplicated cars, like we did in the 90s, because of retarded regulations.
>>540424532America shipped off its industrial base for better margins to shareholders. We never recovered after 2008, and we have become an uncompetitive consumer economy that relies on foreign cheap labor to sell goods to Amerigoys.Globalizing the economy made American labor too expensive, which means we will get a globalized standard of living, AKA our standard of living will continue to deteriorate since our main export is US debt.Gutted manufacturing base + loss of US fiscal confidence = higher inflation, dead economy, worse and worse standard of living each generation.Buy assets while your purchasing power is where it's at today, because it will buy less tomorrow.
>>540424254That China is MASSIVELY invested in taking over as the globohomo leader, meaning they are investing a fuck ton of gov't bux into industry and helping the fakers essentially "make it" and develop good products to undercut the west. Meanwhile Western nations are fucking over their own industries to give everything to China.Smarter Every Day found this out the hard way when he tried to source American made parts and flat out couldn't. It was all Chinese parts. ALL OF IT. India was in on the scam and would just label China parts as Indian, poorly. So if you are a milquetoast NPC faggot with a MBA and see this shit first hand, I'm sure it's a shock. Your nation sucks, China wins. And the lefties have been screaming the West sucks for a while now, it really shouldn't be a shocker, but richfags do private school and don't get leftist indoctrination, hence the shock.
>>540437655Why would you give a shit? Anarcho capatlists just believe you can buy these products and sell them.You can criticize the supposed problem when you drop the meme flag.
>>540434583I can't even afford rent with 5 roommates at 40
>>540436778should I just abandon the idea of humanity like they all do?if you have 10m I guess it's fun. but knowing that so many people live like long pigs that can't turn around makes existentially ill.is that a me problem?should I abandon that idea?learn to hate the Walmart people. treat them like "people" then live like one of these assholes? this shit isn't sustainable and never was. they're going to Russia us.
>>540424254What happened to the free market? Oh right it doesnt exist.See for instance, regulation. Or sanctions
>>540437747>That America is MASSIVELY invested in taking over as the globohomo leader, meaning they are investing a fuck ton of gov't bux into industry and helping the fakers essentially "make it" and develop good products to undercut the world. Meanwhile Western nations are fucking over their own industries to give everything to Israel.Fixed your typos.
>>540437606I despair every day anon.
>>540437606uh,nigger cultureIndian culturespic culturethat's about it.that's how we btfo china's post cultural revolution shill campaigns...>>540437655>second most populated country has alot of things happening I've the decades of them figuring it out.I've seen more videos of niggers attacking & killing white people than those you mentioned honestly,that's all we have going for us in the west.china: ooohh we musstah grow stronger!>west: KILL WHITEY KILL WHITEY I'VE ISRAEL
>>540424254>What do they know that we don't?It's not something they know but something they all got shown. Showing jailee people (as example) which were in the exact same Position as them. Or even higher. What they get to see is that "to be rich" and "to be mighty" is relative in China. "Xi gives it, and he can take it" so to say. And he is willing to do so with the same class of rich and mighty FOREIGNERS too.That's just my guess.
