Why aren't more people talking about this?Communism fucking lost LMFAO>ussr and satellite states collapsed>china economically liberalized>vietnam economically liberalized>north korea isolated and poor as shitand now Cuba is liberalizing.
who?
nothing opened my eye to the absolute niggardry of the modern US than their treatment of cubai understand the political need but holy fucklaunching rpgs at fairs? taking down civilian aircraft?utter cringeif ones system is so superior, why exactly does one need to supress some little island state? should it not collapse on its own?when i read that even after the embargo, some US patients went there for medical treatment which is simply not available on the continent my sides went orbital, tell you hwat.>they could have traded with literally every other country on earthno they couldn't because the US put sanctions on every enterprise which even had the slightest trade with cubai can do this all day, bud :)
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>>540451940yeah because it's crazy nobody is talking about thiscuba was the commie's favorite example of it "working" and now they're abandoning it lol
>>540452005nobody is buying the shit your peddling, if you didn't get that by now
>>540451854Like you have room to talk. You guys murdered 6 million jews.
>>540452184do you see me gloating?
>>540451415wont make a difference. Cuban Americans won't stop until they get their property in Cuba returned to them
>>540451415Didn’t the US basically stop the entire country from receiving imports? Doesn’t sound very voluntary
>>540451415>Cuba abandons Communism>>540451415>Why aren't more people talking about this?Because the mainstream media "news" is 99% run and operated by "socialists" aka "noses". Socialism = Jewish controlled and financed 100% of the time. They hate any bad publicity about their Socialist Scams.
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>>540452102>nobody is buying the shit your peddlingwhat shit? lmfao
>>540452670kek just take a look at the replies to your sorry excuse for a threadthis one and the last
>>540451854>noooo you can't just DEFEAT your ENEMIES that's UNFAIR if you're AMERICA
>>540452395Why would that be a problem for a communist country? The free market is inherently evil as is competition. Labor creates value afterall, right?
>>540451854wtf kind of retarded tankie tiktokkers have you been watching lmao
>>540452986hes a chink or some other shitksinhe shits up the board 24/7 larping as a german
>>540452886>killing civilians with black ops and blocking aid is fightingif you just invaded them? fine.but the bullshit you have been getting up to there for decades now is absolutely vileputting giddamn sanctions on countries who take doctors without borders from cuba?this is where you're at? this is how the great US of A 'defeats' their enemies?
>>540453202I would have preffered a Pinochet type taking over Cuba with a Right Wing Dictatorship, but a perestroika is fine too. Either way the nightmare the cubans have been living under is coming to an end. Now they can get them some popeyes chicken and mcdonalds and get paid for their labor.
>>540453202Yes. I don't understand how a communist country could fail without access to the free market though. The free market and competition is inherently evil, right? Labor creates value right? So why didn't the Cubans labor to create value within an internalized economy?
>>540452986none, i just have an interest in US-Cuba since decades, think it's completely overlooked by most.>>540453167Das wäre schön einfach, he?Liegst halt komplett falsch, aber das ist für dich wahrscheinlich nichts Neues.>>540453456>Either way the nightmare the cubans have been living under is coming to an endstill talking like the 'nightmare' isn't 100% of your making>>540453615>communismand WRONGcubans have private propertyand what does that have to do with imports and exports?i don't see the US stopping trade with china, curious.
>>540453902your commie shitholes including China are all going downkeep seething about it
>>540454034my 'commie shithole' is the same shithole you live in, if your flag means anything, so
>>540453902Oh wow they're actually allowed to own something beyond personal property. Why would they abandon Marx? China is not a communist country lmao. They are vehemently capitalist and China's rise is directly tied to Dengist capitalist reforms. They Castro Mafia could have made bice for decades but didn't. So, why did marxist ideology fail in Cuba? They don't need the free market because labor creates value, right?
>>540454113>They are vehemently capitalist>planned economy is free market nowyou're flailingcalm down, take a breather. maybe you'll manage a coherent post
>did a massive government sponsored press tour with influencers (LARPers) organised by people with ties to the CCP>give up on communismMaybe more western commie larpers should be involved more, they seem to turn everything they touch to shit
>>540454106except Germany is capitalistic, but you dont know that, because you dont actually live in Germany, you chink
>>540454192A planned economy with robust competition with the goal of maximizing profits is capitalism with extra steps. In fact, it's basically just leftwing fascism - a point where both government and business/corporate interests not just align but go hand in hand.
>>540451415Wow, it's almost like communism doesn't fucking work. Who'd a thunk?
>>540451415But will it stick
>>540454335What are you talking about? Labor creates value. Not scarcity, want, or necessity. I read it in Marx's books thatvhe wrote while living for free in friends house.
>>540451415Communism lost!It only took crippling a nation for 70 years!
>>540451415I still think we should carpet-bomb Havana.
Cuba had no issues with 'liberalizing' in fact several times the regime was open to whatever the US wanted (except removing the castros and allies from power) but the US just wouldn't do it. In fact I mean your article is from june, has anything improved ? no because they are still sanctioned to hell
>>540454192I welcome Cuba back home to the West as heartily as I laugh at your seethe.
>>540454288but you were the one who called germany a commie shithole first?>>540454326>uh... um, actually-oh this is going to be great lelbut i get it, socialism is fine as long as it's not on your doorstep (people might get notions) and sells you cheap shitjust can't have one of those close by which has a better global ranking in literacy, healthcare, etc. right in front of your doorstep, it makes sense, don't get me wrong!>>540454656>no u!come on brah, you can do better than that..
>>540454730Nice deflection. Answer my points or fuck off. Better healthcare? Literacy? By what metrics? Oh wow they should be living in the Shangri La then, amirite? How many people fled Cuba vs moving there after the Castro mafia took over?
>>540454345>>540454345There's a difference between market value and labor value. Market value is best understood as "price" because that's how most people (consumers) interact with it. Labor value is best understood as the degree of socially allocated labor to produce a given good or commodity, community understood as "man-hours" because that's how employim interact with it.Just because winter coats are cheapest in summer (market value) does not mean that less winter coats will be produced or less people employed in making them for for the winter season (labor value) or that price is going to remain low for the winter (market value). Market value and labor value do not negate or exclude each other. Both are credible ways to understand anddissect economy when used in tandem.But Marxists insistence on still using "value" as a placeholder for 'labor value' when 'market value' has clearly supplanted 'labor value' in everyday discussion is just one of those things that allow Marxists to completely lose the public when debating the economy. Because only Austrian economists (a capitalist movement which was funded to counter the arguments of socialists and Marxists in the 1800s) and other Marxists have any real idea what they are talking about. And the Austrians have no interest in educating the public about the labor theory of value - because there's no money in it.
>>540452243>>540452184Jews are the enemy of mankind and the children of Lucifer so it's okay.
>>540454730>but you were the one who called germany a commie shithole firstkeep deflecting chinkyou know exactly what commie shithole im talking about
>>540452823>kek just take a look at the replies to your sorry excuse for a threadpeople supporting me and mocking socialism and cuba?keep licking those boots though lol
>>540454192>>planned economy is free market nowPlanned economy is when billionaires and capital accumulation?Central planning in china ended with mao, cope seethe dilate
>>540451415oh boy they can now get molested by jews
>>540454445>those poor poor oppressed dictators!Yes. Communism crippled cuba lmao
>>540451415They're basically selling off their sovereignty to the Americans. The sad thing is Castro really instilled a profound sense of retarded nationalism into the Cuban government, so much so it refused many opportunities given to it by China and Russia to build stronger trade relations and evolve its economic policy to one that is still sovereign but won't draw ire from Washington.They've had decades to rise with the Russian/Chinese economic boom, but chose not to; instead went with Venezuela and Chavez who ultimately did not know how to run a capital-friendly communist state. Hispanics are just buckbroken as hell by the Americans. Even the Brazilians have a more dignified bearing despite being just as poor.
>>540451854The United States does NOT "embargo" Cuba. They do NOT prevent any ships from docking at Cuban ports. They do NOT prevent any foreign company, nor can they, from doing business with Cuba.United States laws do NOT apply in Canada. There is no law in Canada (or Germany) which prevents Canadian or German (or any other country) from doin business with Cuba,IN FACT ... Food and medicine, under international law, are EXCLUDED from US Sanctions. The United States does NOT prevent even American companies from doin business with Cuba. Any American farmer who wants to can sell his crops to Cuba!!! Any american health care company, pharmaceutical company, any doctor, any other health care related profession, is 100% ABSOLUTELY FREE to do all the business with Cuba they want.United States laws do not extend to other countries. The US courts cannot enforce thier laws in other countries, and they have NEVER tried to. unlike CHYNAA ... the US courts do not presume to enforce US law outside of the US.What US law does state however, is that AMERICAN companies cant do business with cuba, and foreign entities (companies) which do business with Cuba cannot do business in America. ITS THEIR RIGHT AS A SOVEREIGN NATION. Are you suggesting the United States is not a SOVEREIGN NATION... That the United States is FORCED to do business with people they dont want to do business with.WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU PIECE OF SHIT?SHOULD GERMANY BE FORCED TO DO BUSINESS WITH RUSSIA?SHOULD CANADA BE FORCED TO DO BUSINESS WITH NORTH KOREA?FUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on.the United states doesnt "owe" Cuba anything. Cuba is free to buy all the oil it wants. you know why they dont have any oil ... CAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANY MONEY!!! you know why they dont have any money .... BECAUSE FUCKIN COMMIE MAFIA SHITBAGS STOLE EVERYTHING THAT WASNT BOLTED DOWN!!!Now go fuck your mother you piece of shit.
>>540454730I could, but the point is, I don't have to.
They're hoping Trump will let them keep their dictatorship if they institute chinese-style reforms
>>540451854Hey guise its a Hasan piker nigger acolyte. How much you get paid for that post, you retarded hylic fuck?
>>540453202>picrel
bumpdeath to communists
>>540451854It was crawling with crime mob kikes.
