how did the US lose like this?
the orange pedo has some kiddies to rape probably
he'll deny it on copesocial anyways and then go back to zoghog day
>>540471742>reportedly
>>540471742GoodFuck jews
>>540471742At this point I trust absolutely nothing the media or the government has to say about the Iran War because everyone's been lying through their teeth about it since day 1
I'm not sure but I'd like to take a moment to say>Thank YouTo WW3 Monitor for being /pol/'s best source during these chaotic times.
How can anyone make a deal with unstable dementia retard and bloodthirsty Israel?
He enjoys BBC FUCKING LITERALLY. HE SAID IT HIMSELF!
>>540471909thats true but when the WSJ "leaks" this type of info its the trump admin wanting to send a message to iran that they are really sorry and want to go back
>>540471742He'll just say Obama and Biden gave them nukes
>>540471993Yep Trump admin have been directly leaking through Axios and WSJ because Iran won't pick up the phone to them any longer, after Trump threatened to kill their negotiators in Switzerland
>>540471742OPEN THE STRAIT!
>>540471742>3rd hand account claims>Ww3 monitor
>>540471742...but they're not opening the strait and they have been very explicit about it.This is not a development, this is you being led by the media that underreports straightforward events to create their (and the state's) own zigzagging narratives
>>540471993Doesn't matter. Israel will never let him make a deal.
>>540471977BWC against BBC who wins
>>540471742AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAEMBARRASING
sigh
>>540472064what can he do?i think trump plan is to leave the war to regional powers like SA and iraq to fight iran with Israeli support so it becomes a normal war and not about the Hormoz
Trump is a fucking retard that surrounded himself with retards and evil jews. He is fucked. Jews have put him in a untenable position. Iran will not make a deal unless it completely humiliates the US. They know if the deal is 'reasonable' the US will just let the global economy start going again for a while and then attack again. Trumps only move is complete war now, but the country is in no way on board with that. Good job jews, you've ensured your own destruction because you are fucking retarded greedy fucking retards. Democrats will win. The US will be completely fucked, our economy will fully implode, it'll be completely flooded with shit skins, all aid to Israel will go away, no more funneling of US AID back into ZOGbot politicians through AIPAC, China will fully arm Iran, Iran will fully arm proxies, they will rebuild Syria, Israel has about 10 years left before they are gangraped. GOOD JOB JEWS.YOU ARE FUCKING MORONS.
>>540472114The BBC are a bunch of pedophile-covering up monstersJust like Trump's DOJ
>>540472124>Life, Liberty and Licking Jewish Ass.
>>540472163
>>540471742So if he's throws the IRANS CANNOT BE HAVING THE NUCLEAR DING DONGS narrative out of the basket, what was the point of this war?
>>540472247protecting jews from getting their shit pushed in while the rest of the world suffers, of course
>>540472177Why would they open the strait if they're still being attacked by SA, Iraq and Israel?
>>540472247It was trying to overthrow the IRGC for Israel's benefit, which failed in the first week. Everything since then has been MAGA coping with losing the war in such a public and humiliating fashion
>>540472289because he would give iran what they want while pretending that he is not involved with the rest well thats his plan
hormussy status?
>>540472357
>>540471742So much for 'OPEN THE STRAIT YOU SICK BASTARDS OR A CIVILISATION DIES TONIGHT!'.
>>540472354Part of what they want is the end of hostilities. If any of those countries fucked with them they would immediately close the strait again.
>>540472180You actually think "aid" to israel will stop? We are flooded with shitskins now and it hasn't.
>>540471742He will just break his word after the mid terms.
>>540472532that makes sense and all the countries involved want this (other then israel ofc) not sure what they would do other than try to kill the new leaders of iran
>>540472507They are specifically asking for Israel to leave territory in Southern Lebanon, which is never going to happen. Israel is occupying that land permanently now and Trump is too spineless or compromised to tell them to leave. There is no way to have a lasting peace with that stipulation from Iran, yet Iran will never concede on that point
>>540472124God, I hate kikes. TKD Now! 110 and done.
>>540471742The stock market is at ATH. Trump is winning. America is winning. You lost, tranny
Iran needs the blockade to end because the IRGC has to meet payroll to maintain loyalty and stability.
>>540472742I hope you're just a sarcastic troll farming (You)s.
>>540471742> without a nuclear dealThe nuclear deal must be: you give up your nuclear project OR WE WILL NUKE YOU!
>>540472857What's the stock market doing in the trannyverse?
>>540471742> WSJ> REPORTEDLYkys, retard
>>540472177> Israel+SA+Iraq vs IranThat wouldn't be a normal war.
>>540471742Has the US ever been this humiliated before? This is not even a defeat like in Afghanistan or Iraq where they won militarily but fucked up the nation building process. In iran, they straight up lost the kinetic and conventional war
>>540471742
>>540471742I don't give a fuck about Iran's Allah government, but if I were them, I wouldn't negotiate with the US under any circumstances, no matter how things are going for me. If the US wants a certain outcome, they should make that clear by indisputable facts on the ground, otherwise I would just ignore them completely and keep doing my thing. No matter what you think of the islamitards, the US government (probably due to its severe jewish influence) has shown to act like a bunch of dishonorable and untrustworthy dogs. Any negotiations with such people is fruitless. They will feign negotiations, then attack. They will reach a fake settlement, then attack. They will negotiate a ceasefire, then attack. They are child slaughterers who have shown that they have no honor whatsoever. Negotiating with unreliable adversaries is simply not logical.
>>540472915normal in the sense that its city vs city bombing instead of destroying the global economy
>>540472847Iran doesn't rely on the strait to export solely. They have a pipeline that bypasses the strait that is still exporting 350k/bpd, the Goreh-Jask Crude Oil Pipeline, which is $29m in revenue daily to the IRGC.
>>540472988They aren't the strait opening requires tolls has no engagement with the us all hostile nations are blocked so any us supporters and kikes are banned with the US likely banned if they don't listen to demands. This is a fuck you to the us and the us clearly can't do anything to stop it.
>>5404728472 more weeks im sure.
>>540471742Literally who even is this?
>>540471742Lotta claims about Iran and the USA by Iran, yet mysteriously they never materialise.I wonder why that is?
>>540471742If First Squawk didnt say it then its not real
>>540472896>proud of jewish gambling numbers
>>540473004> instead of destroying the global economyBut this is the true purpose of the war.America hopes it hurts the rest of the world more than them.
Mark and radio audience want nothing less than boots on the ground.
>>540472532democrats are pissed Israel fully pivoted to recucklicans and have been dumping all their AIPAC/laundered US Aid money to neoconsdemocrats are captured by Chinese moneyrecucklicans are captured by jews democrats will make more money with Israels destruction because that's a win for China
>>540473189i hope you are joking cuz that's retarded US entire relies on global economy they can sanction any country they want and bring their ppl to point of starvation
>>540473250Make him commander of the oven batallion
>>540473183>doesn't understand the meaning of the stock market valuation ahh ok then
>>540473315>FuturesI see you struggle. Odd you don't question gas continuing to rise or diesel which never fell. Magic right?
>>540473289Iran has been sanctioned by the US since 1979, they do not give a fuck
>>540473033we blockade that too.
>>540473436yeah no, that is not currently blockaded
>>540472247>what was the point of this war?The War was not supposed to last this long. At least not the standoff, long range bombing phase.There was supposed to be a color revolution, except the Iranians shut of the internet, triangulated or jammed all the starlink terminals, and rounded up the mossad/CIA agents. This was before the war actually kicked off, btw. A year before that, they deported something like 1 million Afghan nationals in the span of a month. Those Afghan migrants were supposed to be part of the 5th column to destabilize Iran.There was also supposed to be an uprising from the Kurds on the Iran/Iraq/Syria border. The CIA armed and paid Kurdish militias and provided them with a battle plan. Except the Kurds just stayed home.The decapitation strikes were supposed to leave Iran leaderless and demoralized. Except they had organized their military and government to be ready for just such an eventuality, and had the social technology of shia martyrdom to make their deaths a meaningful rallying point. Also, the Iranian regime turned out to be quite popular with the iranian people,The way this war was supposed to go was>fake and gay color revolution starts over gay shit>mass protests destabilize several Iranian cities.>Iranian officials start getting assassinated or defecting>mossad, CIA and special forces infiltrate and support these moderate resistance groups.>IRGC tries to crack down on things>decapitation airstrikes, short 2-3 weeks of bombing campaign>kurds activate, run ops on their border>Turks mobilize to secure their border>more Iranian officers get assasinated or defect. The ones who hold on are too busy dealing with color revolution protests and sabotage to launch missiles at Israel or US bases.>various warlords start emerging to lead Iranian resistance factions.>iran splits into several failed states>millions of Iranian refugees>total zog victoryInstead, zog lost.
i want to know if there will be a deal or not. I trade oil futures.You can buy/sell micro oil futures .01 = 1 dollar so a dollar move in oil is 100 bucks.
>>540473039I don't welcome this outcome, desu. Imperialist governments who just roll up on another country and start bombing because it's a "just war" can get fucked, but I'm not a child and I realize that these retarded schoolyard bully tactics are just how things are atm. But I would have nevertheless preferred an outcome that both countries can live with and that had positive ripple effects throughout the region. But you can't have negotiations and agreements when one country acts completely without honor over and over again. This will just cause further bullshit in the region, this will be bad for business all around the world and it will further undermine the US. Massive own goal by (objectively) retard Trump and his zio-kike overlords.
>>540472177Why would Iran let Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Israel do that? It’s 2026, not 1986. The regional Arab powers want things to go back to the way they were, but Iran has everyone by the balls with the Strait and they know it. Barring a US ground invasion, which would make Trump even more unpopular, no one can do shit to Iran
>>540473436Is this blockade in the room with you currently?
>>540473480ai says it is.
>lol
>>540473517that's interesting. so russia is probably buying refined products from iran because ukraine is hitting russian refineries.
>>540473525Post the response then
>>540473570No it's middle manning its crude. Russia doesn't buy refined.
>>540473525There is no such thing as a pipeline blockade you unbelievable retard. US blockade is naval and applies to the strait only, not land-basedhttps://x.com/Kpler/status/2031422618494967900
>>540473514>Barring a US ground invasionIran would smoke the fuck out of amd ground invasion force. USA can't even use its bases in the region because they keep getting bombed. There is nowhere to strange the equipment for a ground invasion. By sea it's just suicidal. Which is why Khargg is still under Iranain control.
>>540473491afghan nationals are not organized to be like the kurds iran became more united than ever in this war so whatever plan they had was retarded
>>540471909>the Iran WarYou mean The War for Greater Israel?
>>540473578the us does board ships sailing toward jask according to a DW article.
>>540472861>WE
>>540473775Odd you don't post a response.
>>540473371We're talking about the DOW brother. Have you seen the DOW?
>>540473754would that even happen desu like israel have been trying to take over Palestine for years now and they still unable to achieve that
>>540473613obviously I'm talking about the jask port which is the pipeline's destination.
>>540473287Dems are still doing the bidding of israel without any of the AIPAC donations? Also that's rhetorical as we know that AIPAC is still flooding them with money - both sides.
>>540473800https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/iran-turns-to-crude-exports-via-jask-terminal-amid-hormuz-disruptions/here's one that says we board ships headed to jask so we are blockading jask too.
>>540473814Yes. jews have been talking about greater Israel for decades. In the 90s a us politician had to tell an entire AIPAC convention to shut the fuck up about greater israel.
>>540473823There is very little interruption to shipping from Jask, the US blockade is firmly aimed at the strait, interceptions of Jask ships are very few, ship radar shows numerous ships coming and going from Jask every dayhttps://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/iran-turns-to-crude-exports-via-jask-terminal-amid-hormuz-disruptions/https://www.spglobal.com/energy/en/news-research/latest-news/crude-oil/080526-iran-turns-to-crude-exports-via-jask-terminal-amid-hormuz-disruptionsThe US has completely failed to lock down Jask other than a few token interceptions
>>540473880they could take as much they want as the speed that they are going right now they would need like 100 years to take over all that and it would be a different world by then
>>540473491no empire throughout history has survived its own hubris
>>540471742Trump must hand over his children as hostages to broker a deal. Since international law has ceased to be respected, all that remains is medieval customs. Otherwise, no one will respect any deals, since there's nothing to lose by breaking them.
>>540473250I would love to grab 500-1000 of the worst zionist retards, give them a helmet and a M4, slap a parachute on their back and just drop them off over Iran. That would be such a glorious picture, I would love for these brave "more war" guys like Levin and Shapiro to show us how it's done.
>>540471993But in reality this is just another push for time and potential market manipulation just to lower the oil price, refill the petroleum reserves and get more ammo/equipment to the middle east for another bombing run. It will be back to usual once its done and Iran knows this all too well now. Kikes should not have killed their pussy old fart, He wouldn't have taken things this far and would've folded long ago.
>>540474136It was genuinely so stupid to kill the old dude. He had terminal prostate cancer and was expected to die in the next year anyway. So simply waiting would have accomplished the same thing. And he had a reputation as a pacifist. Killing him just let all the warmonger IRGC people take over instead.
>>540474004Would be sight to be seen, my guess is that after first bomb explodes ~1km away from them. At least half of them stars to run in fear of their lives just leaving trail of shit and piss behind.
>>540473814Just because the jews are bad war despite being pretty good at killing children does not mean they are not fighting the War for Greater Israel.
>>540473491It's a staggering failure of intelligence from the Zogites. Iran has prepared for this exact war for decades. They've watched how America uses Shock and Awe. War makes the IRGC stronger. They thrive in it. It unites them under a common goal.
>>540471742Lmao. Uranium intact. Strait closed.Missiles remaining.Mutts seething
>>540473854I want your ai response. That isn't a source.
>>540474252This is the same group of people that funnelled money to Hamas for years, thinking they were so clever for dividing Palestinian government between PLO and Hamas to make sure they never united and didn't think funding Hamas would ever blow back on themhttps://www.businessinsider.com/israel-security-forces-escorted-suitcases-cash-hamas-qatar-report-2023-12
>>540474277This is the Ayatollah.
>>540471742Who must go?
>>540473923According to ai, the tankers can load up oil from jask, but they cannot leave, so they loiter near jask, waiting for the blockade to end. They cannot escape the blockade.
>>540474396You're just talking bullshit dude, the article which you didn't read, says there's a tanker coming every day or two to the port. So you're saying they're coming with no intention of leaving? How are they getting through the blockade in the first place if the blockade is supposedly so airtight? That same article says the US boarded one tanker and then let them go. So they're not even stopping tankers going to Jask
>>540471742A trillion keks kikes are going to be at absolute maximum malding
>>540471742kek no wonder this kike wanted Euro BVLLS to join in his jewish clusterfuck of a war...I hope he never settles and It goes to boots on the ground, a protracted 20y long war. Fingers crossed
>>540474396Enough fake and gay shit you are too scared to post.
>>540471909Nice cope.
>>540474292Sailing "Dark" to Escape: To get away from Jask, these supertankers are operating completely "dark"—disabling their Automatic Identification System (AIS) transponders and taking advantage of localized GNSS (GPS) disruptions in the Gulf of Oman to mask their departure from satellite-based tracking networks.The "Loitering" Bottleneck: While that specific VLCC slipped through, the exit route is a massive bottleneck. Satellite imagery captured several other fully laden supertankers trapped and loitering just south of Jask Port. They are carrying roughly 7 million barrels of oil but are effectively stranded because they cannot easily escape the U.S. Navy presence.High Interception Risks: Leaving Jask does not guarantee a clean escape. U.S. naval forces have severely tightened the net. For example, the U.S. Navy previously tracked and boarded the VLCC Majestic X in open waters after it loaded 1.88 million barrels from Jask under a false flag. More recently, the U.S. Navy intercepted the laden tanker Lan Jing just off Jask and physically forced it to turn back into Iranian waters.
>>540474577Post it. Why can't you screenshot or snip? Incompetence? Include your input.
>BREAKING: Donald Trump has quietly admitted defeat and privately signalling he's willing to end the Iran war without a nuclear deal if the Strait of Hormuz simply opens, a humiliating retreat from his demand for "unconditional surrender," per WSJ.>Trump privately told aides he would declare victory based on reopening the Strait — a far cry from his promises to "decimate" Iran's nuclear program. But Iran just raised the price of that exit: $300 billion** in compensation, **$100–123 billion in frozen assets, U.S. troop withdrawal, and an end to the naval blockade.>Trump wanted out. Iran is making him pay for it.>U.S. officials say Trump sees the Strait as his only viable exit. But Iran's new demands mean even that is now in doubt. Tehran knows Washington is desperate to leave — and is holding the waterway hostage until Trump surrenders on every point.https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-strait-of-hormuz-opening-iran-negotiations-b6a43ad6If you were Trump, how the fuck would you even get out of this mess while not completely tanking the midterms?
>>540474602It's probably from notoriously unreliable Grok and they're too embarrassed to list the source, lest it be revealed as bullshit
>>540474608Kek. I remember when shills said oil spray was perfectly normal and not struggling. Those were fun times
Trumps word means nothing when hes already proven he will just use jewish tricks to claim a war 2 weeks later is a different war
>>540471909>everyoneretard
>>540472163>ai slopAnd you think you have the right?
>>540474528Are you saying the government / media hasn't been constantly contradicting itself?https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/3-times-trump-has-given-iran-deadlines-and-then-delayed-them
>>540474608They are also charging 5-7% per ship passing through the strait when it opens, when passage was free prior to the war. This means Iran would earn upwards of $200bn/year off ships through the strait simply in fees. And no deal until Israel leaves Lebanon. I've never seen the US lose a war this hard.
>>540474608>If you were Trump, how the fuck would you even get out of this mess while not completely tanking the midterms?it's too latehe doubled down on his mistake over and over, there's no good option
>>540474714Bans anybody hostile with iran and supporting hostilities with them. This is a lot for the US never before seen. Bans kikes permanently.
>>540471909When have the Iranians lied tho?
>>540474277Oh yeah it's an Iranian Cultural victory for sure. Americans will just pretend we won or say it was a draw and move on to some other distraction.In 30 is years America will suddenly declare that Iran is and has always been our greatest Ally in that region and we desire friendly relations with them forever. Just like Vietnam.
China holds all the cards.USSharts are just biding their time, trying all their can to restock their arsenal.
>>540474396Won't that cause Oil to flood the markets.
>>540474729A competent leader would not start a war in an election year, especially when you promised no new wars in the 2024 election campaign. This is really basic stuff
>>540473825at this point the only person they really have is Fetterman is is legit straight up MOSSADJews will probably pivot to China once the US is completely sucked dry so idk
>>540474608>>540474714>But Iran just raised the price of that exitBut they didn't even raise it. All of this is essentially day 1 demands.
>>540474813Isn't fetterman the brain damaged retard?
>>540474814The new fee means the price of oil around the world goes up permanently, thanks to Trump. There is no return to lower prices once the war is over.
>>540474791>Drones strikes your ships in the China Sea from the Phillipines Thanks for the strategy Iran!
>>540471742You lost tranny
>>540474714>And no deal until Israel leaves LebanonIronically, I think this is ultimately what will make any potential deal fall through, because Trump just lacks the backbone to push against the zio lobby and Netanyahu
>>540474976He may not have a choice. This is the month where sour struggles occur. Once diesel hits a wall all things using it raise.
>>540474602The Strategy Behind the Bottleneck:Loading in the Blind Spot: Iran actively uses the Jask offshore mooring buoys to load supertankers, attempting to bypass the total standstill affecting its primary hub at Kharg Island.The "Ras al Hadd" Wall: Once loaded, these tankers cannot escape. The U.S. naval blockade boundary is drawn from Ras al Hadd (the eastern tip of Oman) straight across to Iran's border with Pakistan. This creates a massive net directly in front of Jask.The Waiting Game: Because U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) actively intercepts, boards, or disables non-compliant vessels, tankers that take on oil at Jask are trapped. They are forced to sit, drop anchor, or linger in the waters near Jask, effectively turning into floating storage units.
>>540474729>>540475020My money is still on full regional escalation. Sooner or later things will get very hot again. I just can’t fathom that Zionists will allow America to take a loss like this and leave Israel weakened.
>>540471742This is what I voted for.
>>540471909trump is the biggest liar when it comes to this
>>540474976It pretty much guarantees there will never be a deal. Iran knows it too, I don't think they want the war to end, because they're bleeding US munition stockpilesThe last time there was a peace deal (memorandum of understanding signed at Versailles), all it took was one call from Netanyahu for Trump to break it. I don't know what they have on Trump, but he is shit scared of Netanyahu and has no power over him. So the Lebanon clause means Trump can effectively never strike peace with Iran.
>>540472247It was a distraction while Israel engaged in landgrabs across southern Lebanon.
>>540475053I don't get shy you are so scared to snip. I'm not reading it till it's an attachment image with your input.
>>540475079im sure trump is pitching it to israel as a reload period and they will go back in after the midterm elections as a final fuck you to the country before his term expires
>>540475079It won't. It can't. If oman and iran make a deal all of the Gulf is in that deal the US is pushed out whether they like it or not.
>>540475053post the source you dumb spastic. Every article on this says they can leave just fine
>>540474933Yeah, absolutely, USSharts dare to do that, lol.I actually want to see that.
>>540474917Well yeah. My point is this toll was declared by Iran since day 1 of this war, and the war continues because it's completely unacceptable for the US. It's not even about Israel and Lebanon, this is not something the US can afford to fold on. So the conflict has to continue, no off ramp or de-escalation exists.And with no de-escalation, it's either the perpetual status quo or eventual troops on the ground (for which Iran is prepared as well).
>>540475107>It pretty much guarantees there will never be a dealThere's two deals, short term and long term.iran will probably agree to a short term 60 day deal at some point because it needs money and is running out of places to store oil. But there will never be a long term deal that is acceptable to the USA without regime change in iran.
Nukes don't exist. The fact that Trump is having a pretend conflict with Iran, who also know nukes are fake, shows that this is all fake and only sheeple believe it is real. Only SHEEPLE believe in nukes. You're all not sheeple are you??
>no more war to manipulate the stock markets on Monday when they openHmmm, must be Sunday
>>540474608At this point his only option is looking for a good escape goat. I sense that little Marco is going to be thrown under the bus. Republicans are fucked in the midterms no matter what, but I can see them being desperate enough to stage a false flag attack and try to get boots on the ground in Iran that way. I don't think that people will give a fuck enough nowadays, like another 9/11 could happen and it would be forgotten about in a week.
>>540475220It doesn't. You are grossly misunderstanding what is going on.
>>540471854This, the dithering old cunt leaks shit himself all the time
>lose war that you started>"Okay, fine, I'll make you a deal - let's just go back to the way things were before. But that's my final offer!"Orange nigga has negative war score. he can't sue for peace. He has to make concessions. But it's not just American hubris preventing that, it's Trump's malignant narcissism.
>>540475286Hesgeth will be axed. Guaranteed. Marco maybe as well but less likely. Vance is distancing and quietly backing away.
>>540471742>how did the US lose like this?Trump listened to Jews.
>>540471742You lost tranny!
>>540475220>But there will never be a long term deal that is acceptable to the USA without regime change in iran.US doesn't get to decide that. They already took their shot trying to regime change and it failed. And the only people that even care about regime change in Iran are Israel. The US has no interest in regime change in Iran. Iran doesn't have any effect on the US whatsoever prior to the war.
>>540475387The mystery oil the US is missing clearly wasn't understood by the US. It comes from Iraq. It's why Exxon and chevron are now claiming to spend billions on a bypass line for a field they don't even own.allegedly. several Iraq politicians being arrested with literal us ool money embedded in their walls also is very odd.
>>540472124Apologize to Adolf Hitler right now
>>540474753sandniggers lie constantly, i understand you want zog to be destroyed but dont mistake those brown turds as allies or friends to white people
Trump is more retarded than Bush, Biden, Clinton and Obama combined.He already fucked his right wing coalition with the>h1b jeets are good!>Iran war>mishandling of the Epstein files>attacking the """woke right""">backtracking on UkraineHis new allies are Lindsay Graham (rest in piss) and other boomer neocons.
>>540471742Evangelicals and their blind support of kikes. Great news.>>>/wsg/6210418
>>540475638>MishandlingLmao.
>>540475513Bypass lines dont solve the fundamental problem of iran being able to disable them at any given moment if they decide to
>>5404717424 trillion lost to end up where we were 6 months ago.
It's never not hilarious to me that if trump literally did nothing with Iran, the situation would be 1000x better for him right now, and the republicans might still lose the midterms but they wouldn't get BTFO so hard.He literally committed political suicide for Israel, it's just amazing. The only president in modern history that couldn't tell Bibi to just fuck off with the Iran shit.
>>540475638Trump makes Bush Jr look like a military mastermind by comparison, the spectacular fuck up of Iran almost makes you look back fondly on 'Mission Accomplished'
>>540471742You /pol/ FAGGOTS are all to blame for this. You utter retards were so eager to suck off this dumb orange faggots cum that you got thim in this position.Literally burn yourselves to death. Literally. I want you reading this to kill yourself. Do it faggot.
>>540471742it's worth it to open the Strait though. That Strait is important to the global economy, and based high-IQ President Trump knows that which is why he went to war to open the Strait.
>>540472247>what was the point of this war?making the jews news only talk about iran while isreal was finishing off gaza unbotheredby the kvetching leftist they created to start with
>>540475795Bibi tried this with Obama in 2015, they told him to get lost and signed JCPOA which accomplished the same thing without endangering American lives or wasting US munitions. The deal was actually working until Trump ripped it up in 2018 which allowed Iran to restart their nuclear programhttps://x.com/AdameMedia/status/2030812582295052306
>>540476145It also saved Iranian and Israeli lives, stabilized the region and the trade routes were safe, but the demon of the middle east had other plans. I don't even give a fuck about the jew shit, but they are devils and habitual trouble makers. There can't be peaceful coexistence with them. They should get full steam ahead missile raped next time they start some unprovoked shit.
at least when the US cucked in vietnam they entered the war with some goal
>>540476404yeah they never wanted JCPOA because it was effectively a peace deal. They wanted a pre-text to attack Iran and Obama denied them that. So they bought Trump, ended the deal, knowing the nuclear program would be restarted, which they could then use as a justification to start a war with them years later because they felt 'threatened', despite having an estimated 150 nukes of their own. It's hard to see it as anything but demonic behaviour. They are the serial destabilizers of the region and it's easy to see why Iran intensely hates them
>>540471742We never should have been there in the first place.
>>540475625Rational post. It will be ignored. The shills constantly spinning this as a binary choice are a monument to the subhuman browns infesting this place.
>>540471742Culmination of a few decades of american companies getting infested by jews and offspring production overseas
>>540471742This doesn't mean Trump is cucking out at all. He just doesn't care about Iran's nuclear program because it has been DESTROYED three times already. And now Iran is BEGGING for a deal because they could not withstand the constant BOMBARDMENT of FINAL WARNINGS and LAST CHANCES.
>>540476749You wonder why they're so mad at you, yet you start a new war against them every decade, despite them being zero threat to you
>>540471742What's his obsession with the Strait of Hormuz? We don't need it.
>>540473754lmaoEven if all the kikes in the world came to congregate, pissrael would never have the population to control that territory
>>540475766They don't. Not would a bypass sin summer best of Iraq be easily done and manageable. It does reveal that us oil companies for some reason are spending billions on a field they don't even own though which is the main point of interest.
>>540472124Anybody have the "QUI?!" reaction image?
>>540475795>It's never not hilarious to me that if trump literally did nothing with Iran, the situation would be 1000x better for him right now,This is what I dont get quite frankly, I dont know how many people here remember, but a week before he started this retarded war, he secured a deal that was even better than teh JCPOA that would basically have Iran literally surrender everything. They even debated on discussing their missile program. Trump could have just taken that deal and been hailed as one of the best presidents on foreign policy
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>540471742>>540471838>>540471843>>540471854Why would Iran agree to those terms? They can make nukes without opening the straight. Dafuq donny gon do?
>>540471742>Iran reopens>Israel bombs some sand country again>Iran closesWe already gone through this every 2 weeks
>>540471742I hope they keep playing with him like this, maybe in the end he’ll toss in a couple of nukes to sweeten the deal
He ran out of throwing missiles. I hope Iran takes this opportunity to reduce PISSRAEL to ashes
>>540472124But he didn't say they're wrong. And that's key
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>>540476404>>540476609The democrats made a nuclear deal with North korea too. North korea went on to build nukes anyway and iran would have done the same.
>>540471742call us when you have something substantial
>>540471742>According to the wall street journal>not even according to them>they're reporting that it's according to "sources" who told themIf you believe this crap then you are a moron.
>>540474277Why don't you further push your advantage? Why are you not continuing to attack US interests and push toward Israel, or taking down the Saudis? It's because you're cucks, and you're looking for a deal because you, like every other cuck on this planet, just want money and status. You're not true believers, not true shia. You're just like the sunni, a bunch of fucking sell-outs that's just trying to gain leverage in negotiations so that they're resolved in your favor. The banking infrastructure remains intact, global trade remains intact, everyone's a cuck boy on iphones feeding their info to the dajjal.
>>540479261Sorry, but that's a leap. North Korea showed time and time again that it wasn't really interested in a serious agreement, they weren't trustworthy negotiators. You can't make the same claims about Iran. Their position on nuclear weapons has been consistent for decades and they honored all agreements to a T. It's not their fault that the US under Trump didn't honor the agreement they themselves pushed for. Who is the dishonest and untrustworthy negotiator in this scenario? Btw, interesting how NK doesn't get fucked with at all, they are big boys know. Funny how that goes. Maybe Iran should rethink its Fatwa, but I guess that's easier said than done.
>>540475464Noo the underground gay republican mafia strikes again!
>>540476404you really think there's coexistence possible with mudshites? muhamad pls. not that I wouldn't see both exterminated to the last
>>540472180Promise?
>>540471742Is this good for bitcoin?
>>540480739That fact that you defame people you disagree with as mulims disqualifies you from any discussion. At least our muslims here are halfway civilized, they stfu and don't start any trouble. Look at your country. How about you control your shithole first, then you talk about others, deal? I wouldn't send a single person as a tourist to your muslim and nigger containment zone called Paris, here girls can wander the streets alone at night without the slightest worry. Same as in any other country around me.
>>540471742It's not over. He will probably restart the war for the fourth time once they've held the election.
>>540471742that would be a best case scenario. He's gonna have to do better than that to convince them to open the strait.
>>540480059Iran was clearly copying North Korea by building nuclear facilities under mountains. Iran was on its way to making a nuke until Trump came along. Trump's primary problem is that he attacked Iran without enough munitions nor the capability to produce them quickly. It's not that he's wrong or Iran is in the right. The iranian regime needs to be bombed to hell.
>>540481891Funny, I only see you and your appendix starting shit in the middle east. If anything, other countries try to deal with the threat that is US and Israel by trying to come up with some sort of deterrent and they better come up with something or they get eaten for breakfast by imperialist aggressors. I maintain that Iran didn't plan to make a bomb and their enrichment program was indirect deterrent, but maybe you will attack them just long enough that they won't have a choice in the matter anymore. It's interesting, you attack them over and over again, than their inevitable defense strategy gets presented as a threat or aggression. You're the type of guy who beats the shit out of your wife every day, then you act shocked when she whacks you with a pan and you call the police on her.
>>540471742Pathetic
>>540471742Iran does not want nukes and the strait is open to those who pay Iran the fee to pass through their territorial waters.
>>540482750It sounds like you're on Iran's side and would be delighted if they had nukes. Just admit it.
>>540483601Are you looking for a reason to bomb another country? You already bombed us in 1999, you probably forgot. My position is the position of an uninvolved observer and it's based on principle. I have no love for Iran, they sent Mujahideen to fight and commit war crimes here during the 90s, my point still stands.
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