Trump has odropped all demands for Iran to give up its nuclear program and regime change. He is quietly begging Iran: "Just reopen the Strait of Hormuz and we will end the war. . ."But Iran smells his absolute desperation. They just trapped Donny in a corner by demanding a 7% shipping toll, $300 billion in cold hard cash, and total US military withdrawal from the Middle EastTrump’s 4D chess just got completely checkmated!!
>>540478222He doesn't understand that it's already fucked beyond fixing. Sometimes that happens. You know. Something breaks and not all the kings horses, nor the kings men can put the egg back together. Korea is hosed otherwise. So is everyone else
>>540478222Listen gook, we won! Why would we need a deal if we won? We're even letting Iran charge tolls. That's because we won.
>>540478222shart of the deal
I'm starting to think Donald Trump is not the brilliant tactician we thought he was
>>540478222>would declare victory based on reopening the straitI didn't know the strait was closed before zion don started his bullshit
>>540478222That's what happens when you start a war with no fucking munitions fucking retard feds
>>540478222I sounds like what iran wants is for Trump to unilaterally lift the blockade so that his negotiating position is even weaker. This could happen if the price of oil gets too high. I am now convinced this is Iran's plan.
Thanks, Israel!
>>540481345
>>540481345DENTAL PLAN
>>540484095How many times did you vote for trump? Blame Israel all you want goy, but you did this to yourself.
he's begging to make a deal
>>540484210Lisa needs braces.
>>540478222Iranians propaganda networks could say any shit they want and brownoids would eat it up
I’m sure the families of those 19 dead Americans are pleased to have sacrificed their loved ones to accomplish nothing other than making gas expensive as fuck.
Just end the fucking thing. I don't care how. Tired of being Israel's bitch.
>Iran won’d da war, gyz!2 more weeks and Trump will give them everything they demand!
Now that people are able to see it up close, they are reporting pure VANDALISM at The Reflecting Pool. Thank you Andrew Leyden for your observation! The material was cut right where the video tape showed, for 300 feet or more. People were on their knees with their hands in the water at the exact location of the "slashes." Additionally, there were witnesses to the VANDALISM, and the flexible areas of the material were cut with a knife. U.S. Attorney Jeanine Piro should re- visit her hastily made decision, especially since it turned out that the "gentleman" involved is a big player in ActBlue, a disgraceful fundraising SCAM, and is represented by a TRUMP DERANGED SLEAZEBAG, Political Hack Lawyer, Norm Eisen, and CREW, a group that uses "charity" for political purposes which is, to the best of my knowledge, ILLEGAL! I have been beating Eisen, a complete LUNATIC, in Court for 10 years, or more. He just keeps coming, butalways WIN! President DONALD J. TRUMP
>>540484210ISRAEL NEEDS BRACES
>>540478222genuinely a power move to lose a war so humiliatingly that neither side can criticize you for fear of you restarting it and making it even worse
>>540485000Day 163 of the 4-day special regime change operation to denazify Iran and open the strait that was already open before the special operation
Please, please. It's too much winning. We can't take it anymore, Mr. President, it's too much.
>>540478222nope, now I am going to crush you faggot
>>54048478419 dead, and one MIA, body never recovered.
>>540484784And the families of those 170 dead children can take a sigh of relief knowing their kids died for a good cause!
How do you start a conflict, cripple global supply chains, and then retreat with zero concessions from Tehran? It’s complete negligence and an absolute disgrace to US national security.If Trump really cuts and runs from this war without a single nuclear agreement, he deserves to be impeached on the spot.
>>540486112Those kids did at least die for a good cause. Iran will get ZOG to fuck off from their immediate vicinity, and will take their rightful place as leader of the Middle East at least partially because of them. Also, Iran has been under embargo for almost a half century, causing a ton of economic pain, which may be ending soon.
If Iran doesnt send at least one powerful missile into a residential area in Israel before this thing is over I'm gonna be sad.
>>540484095Israel is the best…place to drop a bomb.
>>540478222We should at least be able to hold it to a vote. I bet even draft age people would rather fight than give Iran 300 billion dollars free.
>>540486484israel will be destroyed one way or another; the ashkenazi are fleeing the country, leaving the 70 IQ mizrahi and the 85 IQ hasidim (who refuse to work or fight) to run the country. They're doomed!
>>540486651$300B is less than 1% of the $40T debt that the jews have already ran up on our tab, it's not going to change a fucking thing about our trajectory.
>>540484784You'll find out one day the casualties are around 1000, probably more now. Don't ask how I know. We've lost a lot more than we're being told. The US has become a fortress of propaganda and there's fewer and fewer ways for the truth to get in.
>>540486381That's true, for brown standards they got off fairly easy considering the rewards reaped.
>>540486651>I bet even draft age people would rather fight than give Iran 300 billion dollars free.You live in fantasy land, nigger
>>540486813I could believe that general casualty figures are higher than we've been told. This has, in fact, been happening over the course of the war -- the administration will release casualty figures quietly through some unannounced channel and journalists will discover it. I have a hard time believing hidden deaths. The deaths of American troops are a live political wire. They are nearly impossible to conceal, if only because families will expect to hear from them. Their buddies will post about it on social media these days. I think Trump would definitely prefer to keep all deaths quiet. I'm just not sure he actually can.
>>540478222If he gets out I will forgive him for it. Don't pay them money though
>>540478222Trump will only do shit if Israel allows it. your memory is really really bad /pol/
>>540487253If they start charging tolls that's fine. Build pipes to route around it.
>>540487131I suspect that the extremely high and ongoing "suicide" count during the GWOT was just a way to hide the total number of combat deaths. They might do something similar this time to get the American People to swallow the numbers more easily.
>>540487327And remove all sanctions on Iran. Why should china get all their oil?
Israel is prepared to fight Iran to the very last American. luckily all those jeets and beaners and somalians and haitian New Americans have been flooded in to take care of ((our country)) while heritage Americans are conscripted to fight ((our war)) in Iran.
the publicly stated israeli "win condition" is:>"Iran no longer exists" (full stop) a non-functioning "failed" Iranian state, paralyzed by nationwide humanitarian crisis, w/hundreds of thousands of dead Iranians, and the blanket death of its entire political classthe Trump administrations publicly stated US "win condition" is: >a 'non-nuclear Iran', an open strait and 'regime change'HOWEVERthe *TRUE* US "win condition" is:>"gas prices below pre-conflict prices"^thats it.the only "win" that will be recognized by the US public is gas prices below where the war started.the idea that damaging Irans infrastructure, killing its religious leaders or inflicting 'generational damage' on its population is somehow something American people not only 'wanted' but will greatly benefit from for decades is so ludicrous its actually insultingno matter what the US does or does not achieve *militarily* in Iran is completely, utterly and universally irrelevant to American lives. endlessly repeating dogshit like destroying navies, destroying air-forces, killing leaders, blowing up power plants and on and on simply.does.not.matter.Gas prices are the only tangible goal in American minds. any ludicrous abstraction about "doing generational favors by taking out Ayatollahs" or "ending 40 year wars" and some "imminent world-wide nuclear holocaust" via Iran is pure israeli-spun lunacy, a completely irrelevant meaningless abstraction to American lives.the absolutely enraging, maddening talking point:>"Iran may never posess a nuclear weapon"is solely for absolutely mind-shattered evangelicals living in an alternate universe crafted by people like mark levin who truly and deeply believe israel is on the verge of extermination via Iranian nuclear attack
>>540487373Encourage emnity between Iran and their nuclear armed neighbors. When they get nukes rely on mutually assured destruction to kill two birds with no stones.
>>540484784Luckily they only speak Spanish so we won't need to hear from them.
>>540487253>Don't pay them money thoughits not possible to jewishly reneg on the deal>>540487327>Build pipes to route around it.nigger, thats a multi decade process that will (in and of it self) have a dozen low-intensity wars fought around it to prevent its completion (like nordstream)
>>540487458Brown savages and religious zealots will absolutely kill each other.
>>540487488You can't reneg on a deal you haven't made yet.Don't promise to pay them money.The secret to pipes is: Don't be involved. Make the people who want the oil pay for the pipe and fight the wars.
Israel will seethe if Iran had the bomb so they should have the bomb
>>540484249Twice before the federal government became openly israeli occupied and illegitimate
>>540485999>Iranian patriots btfo israeli mercenaries>first combat loss of an F35>first combat damage sustained by a modern aircraft carrier >all bases in region puckered>no ground invasion possibleArt of the Deal
>>540487643It might be worth keeping Ukraine stewing to limit Russia's ability to affect the pipes but maybe not.
>>540487643why the fuck should the US not honor repaying Iran for the ludicrous unprovoked war we waged on them on behalf of jews?how do you think *that* point out of all of them is the one we should nigger out on?its doesnt matter "WHO?" lays the pipe, the point is it will never, EVER be allowed by Iran to be completedIran is not going to let gulf niggers free unmolested reign to build some pipeline infrastructure so they can immediately let the US and israel back in to continue part 3 of the "war for greater israel" which is absolutely what the entire motivation behind a pipe isIran had not, and never was going to block the strait before this insane war was launchedthere was never going to be a need for a geopolitically destabilizing pipe untill now, so its never going to happen everthis entire war and its fallout is solely on the back of jews who started this war.the US can simply skate away in shame that will be forgotten instantly when *next current thing* happens, but israel will have to deal with the consequences of this bat shit suicidal war forever
>>540487678>israel will seethe if Iran had the bomb so they should have the bombIran has long ago proven they effectively have "the bomb" in every meaningful geo-strategic waythis war was irrefutable conclusive proof that missile defense is a complete faggot fraud, the Missile or drone will *ALWAYS* get through, and nothing and no one can save strategic infrastucture like massive refining and production facilitiesthe only solution would be to build such facilities under mountains, which is obviously not possible for things like refineries etc.
>>540487858>It might be worth keeping ukraine stewing to limit Russia's ability to affect the pipes but maybe not.ukraine is completely shattered, dead and finished forever. Russia is toying with the corpse for however long it takes to generationally bankrupt europe of military capital, which it appears to have donenato is finished and will disband,and whatever "european defense sphere" that comes out of the ashes will be an impotent joke for decades untill it too breaks up out of futility
>>540487911Because nobody in the US should be sad if every single Iranian were exploded into a mist. Nobody in the US should be sad if every single Israeli were exploded into a mist. The whole middle east should be bathed in a fine pork mist for eternity. Let the middle east fight about the pipe amongst itself.
Dear Iran, don't forget to pulverize Israel on the way out. Thanks.
>>540488045Only pressure will let a European Defense Sphere form. Russia is a joke too and will take decades to recover. It's a fair fight. The secret is to stay out of it.
>>540484753Yes but Americans have never won a war. Except in movies, you've won every single one of those.
>>540488085>Let the middle east fight about the pipe amongst itself.you cant you stupid nigger because oil and energy is a global commoddity market>>540488151>Russia is a joke too and will take decades to recover.Russia is more powerful economically and militarily than at any point in the past 50 years by orders of magnitude. you /k/ niggers are insane
>>540488151If Europe were at war in the middle east, they might learn they should hate muslims again
>>540488302>Yes but Americans have never won a war.desert storm^which is why we endlessly re-enact it over and over and over again like some loser with a VHS tape of his highschool championship football gameall of our technology and tacticts literally froze solid in 1991 and havent moved an inch since
>>540488368Just be energy independent and let others fight. Who it stings the most will deal with it.
>>540488370>If Europe were at war in the middle east, they might learn they should hate muslims againeurope should go to war with the jew, who pushed the Muslims into europe, and the jew politicians who voted for open borders or literally recalled the police from doing anything about columns of migrants marching in>pic relatedwasnt done by Muslims. it was a literal jewish master plan
>>540484784They voted for it so who cares
>>540488441>Just be energy independentyou cant you stupid absolute nigger what dont you understand about global commodity markets?the US isnt going to nationalize its energy industry and seal it self off from europe, Africa and Asiathats not how any of this works dumbshitthere is no way to "hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr just make your self energy independent EZ!!"*trollface*how fucking old are you?do you have some kind of brain damage?there is no reversing or undoing the 'globalized economy" now
>>540488483If they hate Jews again too, all the better
>>540478222wasnt the entire point of the war to keep the straight up?
>>540488572What's cheaper, paying a bit more for oil ( and you'll be able to outbid because shipping cost money ) or fighting wars? I think fighting wars will be worse. With enough wars demand is destroyed (but not yours if you aren't in them )
>>540487911>the US can simply skate away in shame that will be forgotten instantlythats where youre wrong bucko. the usa will be remembered forever as the paper tiger it is. all bark and no bite. and in turn the usa will be treated as such
>>540488763Wouldn't it be a coup if china started fighting wars in the middle east. They actually use more oil because they make everything.
This will be the end of his presidency if he does this. Like, complete and total capitulation. You think people are heckling you now, wait till this.
>>540478222whats the problem? look at japan, they surrendered and still okay. USA can unconditionally surrender and too will be okay in couple of decades.
>>540478222It doesn't matter. Israel will never allow him to make a deal.
>>540488908No, actually he hasn't completely committed. We don't have a full scale ground invasion. This way he BTFOs Israel which most people would see as justice. 4d chess. He might end up more popular than ever.
>>540487681It's been that way longer than you've been alive retard.
>>540488991>He might end up more popular than ever.The economic ramifications will be felt for years and we have not even felt it. Nor does he in any way "BTFOs Israel" you retarded goy cattle. Who do you think put him into office?
>>540486813ok abdul. If they were hiding that, then when democrats get into power the could imprison everyone who attempted to hide that, as not reporting of a military casualty to congressional defense committees would be falsifying official statements and conspiracy.
>>540488991The purge of anti israel congress critters is going to haunt him, but only for the remainder of his term. His replacement can be more populist.
>>540478222>kushner told me to do itIts still the kikes you kimchi eating faggot. We just need Iran lto include declaring the fully defunding and recognition of apartheid state Israel and stolen Palestinian land. For all of it to be returned to Frer Palestine and for the settlers to relocate to Greenland and welcome their new home.
He still doesn't get it
>Durka durka letter>Per WSJ>No sourceOk I believe you.
>>540478222>iran came to me with tears in their eyes and said please Mr President we love the deal so much let us make you a sandwich
>>540486651Try and call a draft, see what happens. "American" Jews will get their turn to die for Israel, and they'll die for Israel here on American soil.
>>540489214Downield Trump
>>540489086He BTFOs israel because Iran is stronger than ever and they are abandoned to their fate. He got in with Israel's help but he doesn't need to get in again so he doesn't need their help anymore. The economic ramifications would be felt for longer and harder if there were a full scale ground war in Iran. We haven't felt the ramifications because China has been pumping its strategic reserves to prevent crash of the west crashing its own economy. This war serves to drain some of that accumulated oil (payed for by US Sanctions on Iran in part ). After draining it ending sanctions on Iran will mean China must pay full price to refil ( though they still have Russia )
>>540489293you're delusional. If Iran was stronger then every why have they stopped all attacks on isreal.
>>540489112Democrats are also still owned by Jews. It's obvious that Republicans and Democrats both work for ZOG, and I'm desperately hoping for both Republican and Democrat splinter parties to draw votes away from AIPAC candidates.
>>540489341Israel paid them. Simple. Unwritten rule of war.
>>540489293Generally all sanctions should be ended. We're going to have ever more pressure on the petrodollar so we can't afford to impose any more sanctions going forward on anybody. This is a good thing. Keeps us honest.
>>540478222They aren't getting compensation money, OP. This was openly repeated prior to the ultimatum even dropping, Trump was quoted asking if Iran was "going to pay compensation for all their proxy terrorism", to which there had been no response so he took their frozen assets that don't even cover it all. They aren't winning this battle but jews shouldn't either, Israel engages in just as much if not more proxy terrorism, so if Iran were smart they would just demand the USA sever ties with Israel in exchange for opening the strait.
>>540489293>Iran is stronger than everSo is Israel retard...... It has more territory than ever in Syria and Lebanon. Are you retarded? Trump is the most pro-Zionist president in world history.
>>540486651Yea, people will agree to have millions of americans killed for israel...
>>540478222When there's no win condition you can only lose or lose for longer. It is inevitable that US has to surrender this. Jews will chimp out and ruin any peace talks for several more rounds though.
>>540489354Now you need to do logical backflips to rationalize your retarded word view. Plenty of democrats are zionists but they also want full power more then anything and Trump is their political opponent that tearing down gives them power. They are not going to hide casualties for him when they could use it to sweep the midterms
>>540489397They are overstretched. They're fucked. The further they extend themselves the fuckeder they are
>>540488302lol
>>540489354This is very true. The Chinese too. Populism over foreign influence
>>540489147Lol. Saved
>>540481345we?
>>540478222>the hormuz reportWhat does Muslim dick taste like?
>>540489341>you're delusional. If Iran was stronger then every why have they stopped all attacks on isreal.>>540489371its simple escalation ladde controlIran MUST save higher levels for escalation for later on in the hypothetical conflictthe>"devastate israel card"cannot and should not be played so early in such a conflict as this one. its that easyGulf countries are literally defeneseless babbies in golden cribs. these countries and a handful of assets they possess alone are enough to cause the US to completely re-think its middle east posture nowattacking israel is how Iran wouuld counteract "bridge and powerplant day"
>>540489497>They are overstretched. They're fucked. The further they extend themselves the fuckeder they areThey are not overstretched. They are even getting US bases. One US base being built in Gaza strip. Are you retarded? What fan fiction are you living in?
>>540489536what does any of that have to do with the US losing every single war except desert storm?
>>540486813The projection from you peoole is fucking unreal
>>540478222Then israel will attack again and the war will resume. We've seen this show before. Many times.
>>540489626israel is absolutely geopolitically fucked you stupid nigger and the idf is shattered and in ruins.the entire civilization is devastating israeli domestic life, these stories are simply kept out of American media
>>540489626If the US has to defend Israel to keep that base then they should abandon the base. Maybe the base has use beyond that though. If so and if it doesn't come with strings attached keep it.
>>540489646how was Korea not a win? US completed that stated objective of the war, congress never authorize taking of all of korea
>>540489646Iran can't take Basra, a city less than 20 kilos from its border. Iran is much, much more worse at warfare than the US and it took them 4 human wave operations until they realized by the 5th one they shouldn't do human wave attacks anymore.This was against Iraq which we defeated in a month, maybe lessBasically you're trash at war habibi
>>540486112What the fuck are you talking about? The US started the war by murdering those children
>>540489703>Then israel will attack again and the war will resume.they literally cant do itisraeli society is still reeling from the first 2 rounds, the idf is in complete chaos from endless deployment and air-defense is a non existent fantasyisrael has lost escalation dominance in every realm except attacking defenseless civilians in lebanon or Gaza
Libtards will simply make shit up and believe it.
>>540489815They are so helpless that I ran just feels bad attacking them while the annex Lebanon right? You people make the most deluded posts, everything is 3D chess to ignore the reality on the ground
>>540489751>how was Korea not a win?Korea was a resounding defeat, we are still there today, China and NK are orders of magnitude geopolitically stronger than they have ever been and rising, while south korea is a literal civil powderkeg, with one completely failed government after another kept nationally together by colonial rule via the USsouth korea is a giant failed state, kept alive by a handful of mega-corporations and the stability drowning in capitalism/consumer slop provides
>>540489379>so if Iran were smart they would just demand the USA sever ties with Israel in exchange for opening the strait.That implies they have any control in how the show is being run. The world is a stage for the sole purpose of preventing actual chaos through orchestrating manufactured chaos
How about instead of all of that we just agree to bomb Israel instead? Win/win.
>>540489594>muslim pussyI can tell you from the other pussies I have tasted across ethnicities. Their pubic hair is formidable. Very thick almost like PLA Silk black their hair. The odor and taste is accrid and tart with a smell of musk with sweet notes of cherry or molasses. I know I should be a sommelier. But that tartness is like taziki tartness. The juice had an oil kike consistency where nornsl soap will not remove the juices using some kind of degreaser. Dawn blue dishsoap seems to do the trick.
>>540481109Kek.
>>540489886>>>540489815 (You)>They are so helpless that I ran just feels bad attacking them while the annex Lebanon right? You people make the most deluded posts, everything is 3D chess to ignore the reality on the grounno you stupid absolute niggerIran must save retaliating on israel for further up the escalation ladder of this war how are you THIS stupidif the US would have escalated to "bridge and powerplant day" a good way to make Trump, jews or zionists to rethink that would be instant reprisals against israel (and dubai etc)its playing the right "cards" at the right time, so you dont end up with "NO CARDS" like europe, who went straight to nordstream destruction and attacking powerplants and dams in Russian controlled areas.once you start making military plays on nuclear powerplants or strategic infrastructure, and "it doesnt work" you eliminate the strategic doubt those theoretical attacks provide by holding the card tight
Everyone who's braindead enough to still support Trump would keep supporting him even if he raped and ate a baby in public, everyone else already hates him.The way this war ends won't have any effect on the midterms.
>>540489926>invade in and conquer half the county!>LOL YOU LOSEimpossible to debate with such retards like yourself. You grasp as any Insubstantial claim you make to try and obscure the plain reality.
>>540490022>How about instead of all of that we just agree to bomb Israel instead? Win/win.this is the only actual solution that conclusively puts an end to this and all future conflict in the region
>>540490061>durrrr its 3D chess bro! you don't want to kill your weakened enemy! that's what they expect to you to do!Ok buddy, you are retard with no point in debating, just keep posting to every lurker anon can laugh at you.
>>540481345He's a brilliant tactician, when compared to literal retards, not much when a smart enemy appears.
>>540478222>trump surrenders to iran for the tenth time this weekK. Keep me posted.
>>540489354>AIPAC is the only isreali backed pacNgmiThey can make as many shell pacs with different names and false frontman investors as they please thanks to US law.
>>540487420This guy gets it.I don't understand how trump is capable of credibly giving them anything at all at this point. He has completely shit the diaper with his perfidy. The Iranians won't accept anything where the benefits aren't irrevocably goven at the outset.Once the US has no future obligations, there's nothing preventing it from restarting the war.The actual state of the Iranian nuclear program is irrelevant, israel will beat the war drum in all cases.Trump is stuck, but the US may not be. >In theory the US could turn this around with a total shift in government, new president, and new mideast policy that starts with unilaterally bombing tel aviv to show the Persians that there has actually been a shift.I don't think that happens, but I don't see how anything less works.
>>540490186at least trump hasn't declared he won for the 10894937493473th time.
>>540489379>>Iran were smart they would just demand the USA sever ties with Israel in exchange for opening the strait.Best idea on 4chan this year. Now a dozen countries will demand the US sever ties.
>>540478222As long as trannies lose I don't care even if we give them 2 trillion.
>US withdraws, >pays 150 billion dollars in compensation>ends the blockadein return>Entire muslim world - Islam - will reform itself.How? Not my business to dictate or even draft that, it is solely muslims job to do, other than say it must, from then on, be compatible with standard Western / Universal baseline norms of Liberty.Time to take brave steps out from the Dark Jungle.>"The West" need to crawl back to dry land from the swamp it has dug for itself, to lull in perversions and corruption.You don't even remember how does it feel to be dry from the swamp mud.
>>540489952Your planet is a plutocratic, nigger.
>>540478222>Be Ping Pong Fang Chong slant-eyed noodle nigger dog-muncher OP >"Rook! The Daily Hamas says Iran is winning!" Why are you subhuman bugoids so retarded?
>>540490213You are never going to undo TDS. The best thing for the agenda is for him to go down with the worst of it. This way people regretting their years of TDS don't have to walk it back. They can get on board with something purified. Trump takes the baggage and exits.
>>540490224>whataboutK
>>540490250>plutocracyEsl nigger
>>540490315Trump signed the MOU, which was a surrender document. It's just he broke it right away.
https://youtu.be/MZSEAG7adSk
>>540478222all for the kikes btw
>>540478222LOLBoth Biden and Trump were in the throws of dementia. Here’s the difference between Biden’s handlers and Trumps’s: Biden’s handlers weren’t sniveling cowards.
>>540490095>impossible to debate with such retards like yourself. You grasp as any Insubstantial claim you make to try and obscure the plain reality.holy shit you stupid nigger, the US has to literally occupy south korea forever and the instant we leave the country will immediately collapse into a failed state.we are FOREVER baby-sitters of south korea now...how is that a "win"did communism not spread in the korean peninsula?was the Chicom party "contained" and "nuetered"?did vietnam happen for the exact same reason, and have the exact same precise outcome?lmao, the moment we left south vietnam...what happened nigger?^go ahead and answer that>>540490155thank God jews like you are as stupid as you areyour jew brain utterly prevents you from long-term planningyou instantly devolve to>"slaughter his family and children infront of his face!! filet them!!! then burn their entire city to ash!!! hAHHAHAHAHA ayatollah status????"and when this does absolutely jack shit nothing strategically, and all it does is show what kind of demented psycho incapable of negotiation you are, you inevitably create a situation where no other possible outcome but complete and total jew annihilation is possible or desirableisrael is already completley naked, powerless and weakened. they cant even take the lebensraum in Gaza or Lebanon God promised to them 3000 years ago, so toppling Iran and turning it into a giant syria is a fantasy at this point>>540490155youre a literal fucking jew. imagine thinking anyone here agrees with you on anything
>>540490099"Dear Iran, we are sorry, we had a lot of zionists on the brain but we are better now. Please list the US military hardware and the names of former regime offcials you would like in the gift basket we are planning to give you as an apology. Also, please send us a list of the strikes you want us to conduct in Israel proper so we can get on it."A find and replace of iran + israel in US law, followed by arrests of evangelical retards and propagandists is what it would take, and that shit won't happen.So the US will be choosing between deflation and hyperinflation to manage scarcity inflicted by the hormussy being cockblocked.
>>540490378Well Israel never really stopped their Lebanon campaign, but yeah Trump started listening to the neocon voices on TV and tarded out over how the MoU was somehow a "*bad deal." I think Zion Don has dementia and sundowns plus he spent his time manipulating markets. Probably trying to muscle his family into military contractor money as well.
>>540490267Fuck you kike scum
This is basically the MOU except Iran wants to hold him to it now.
>>540478222>risk WWIII to pump the stock market >brag about how many victories you've had>lose war against goat fuckers in a world stage humiliation ritualChecked
>>540478222This is like the 100th time something like this has been reported, why do people keep believing it at this point?
>>540490307Vance is tied to it, and kike johnson is just a shill for israel and related evangelical insanity. Presidential election is two years away. There would have to be an absolutely seismic shift in US politics in November.That's unlikely because as the Massie election showed, Israel can and does intervene aggressively in US elections. So, the election will not reflect actual sentiment, Israel will continue to be a priority for Congress, the president will stay exactly where he is.>Stuck, while he watches gas prices tick upwards.
>>540490553So much this. Didn't every secstate come out and say 'yea the israelis told me the same, I told them DO IT FAGGOT and hung up' after rubio cried that we had to go or Israel would do it alone.
>>540490349Am I wrong? Our nations and countries are all just economic zones controlled by lobbyists.
>>540490213I don't get where you rebbit-spacing cocksuckers get off pretending like Iran dindu nuffin. You must be an inbred goatfucking muslim yourself.
>>540490769Or maybe the reports have always been real, and zion don decides to try hostilities one again because he doesn't know when to admit defeat
>>540478222The strait was completely open and there were no obstructions to trade whatsoever. What's the win here? How can he declare himself the winner? There was no "who can kill the most schoolchildren" contest, he wouldn't even win that, that prize would go to Israel.
>>540490979If you're right, and the Iranians don't have the credibility to open the hormussy and convince the world it's staying open, then trump is even more stuck.>Win by sending iran to the stone age and turning them into a source country for human trafficking>Lose and watch the US economy get rekt while the rest of the world reorients relationships and alliances
>>540489671You figuring out that this is a muslim propaganda board
>>540488572Of course you can be energy independent. Any country exporting energy is energy independent because they have more than enough for themselves.
>>540478222Tfw witnessing the death of the American Hegemony one retarded zionist moment at a time
>>540478222We are in the “look goyim we don’t really want ww3” stageWhy would trump be afraid of sending the cattle to the meat grinder?
>>540491389That's how it works in theory in practice most oil is owned and sold by private entities to the global market so in practice no one is really oil independent at least from a civilian point of view it's functionally the same since prices gets fucked whether you are independent or not.
>>540490979Iran quite literally did nothing untill the US and israel inexplicably attacked itgas prices were decade lows an the strait was open+free>>540491389>Any country exporting energy is energy independent because they have more than enough for themselves.no they arent you stupid faggot nigger retardthose arent nationalized assets they are international global mega corporationswhat dont you get about commoddity trading?
>>540491843>those arent nationalized assets they are international global mega corporations>what dont you get about commoddity trading?Shut up you stupid faggot.
>>540490227We have no business managing sovereignty of foreign nations or countries, unless we intend to conquer them and not from a purely economic POV but in their entirety. Economics doesn't change ingrained culture nearly fast enough, economics doesn't bury centuries-old grudges or traditions but it can liberalize cultures to a point that such things eventually lose meaning.
>>540488370>Europe should hate muslims again>again...Europe is not a country but a CONTINENT, and Muslims have intentionally flooded only the wealthy North European countries for almost 60 YEARS, and we've hated them ever since - so NAME the European country/countries you're talking about!
It would be very ironic if Iran demands a nuclear bomb to reopen Hormuz and Trump gives it to them.
>>540491475Because (((they))) need to goyim to WANT it themselves, their spiritual system demands the goyim consent in some way and right now no one can be tricked into fighting in another world war, it's why they want to try some sort of false flag or blue beans slop to entice people but don't know which route to take so they are ramping up total chaos where they try all of it at once for the final collapse before the final false golden age.
>>540478222>Hormuz Report >Based in South AsiaTotally not biased towards Iran.
>>540478222Just don’t.Just leave. No deal.Who gives a fuck if they reopen the strait?Once we stop attacking them, or engaging with them, then what?They keep the strait closed forever, holding the world hostage to the US specifically paying an indemnity? Because if we’re not attacking them anymore, the longer that goes on, the more pissed off everyone else gets about it.
>>540489220It's a blue checkmark on twitter citing anonymous sources. What more proof do you need?
>>540493008>>Based in South AsiaLiterally half the shit on the internet is coming out of India and the more retarded it is, the higher chance it is coming from that festering anus of the Earth.
>>540478222I’m sure Iran can withstand the blockade forever and hormussy letter isn’t sandnigger propaganda.
>>540492068thats what i thought you little faggot nigger>>540495291>im sure the US can survive the blockae forever and the hormussy negotiations are totally real and the deal of the century is incoming any day now!!!holy absolute shit
>>540493288Oh I know, this same account, said the cardboard guy was alive and well and that Abraham Linlcon had sunk.But hey you know how the troons here are, don't need sources just "HAHA WE GOT HIM NOW GUYS", before they move on to the next cope.
>>540484210>>540485108kek
>>540489049If that's the case then it shouldn't matter which you vote for. One or the other, you have ZOG. At least with one, you get the chance to deport the millions of illegals that the other brought in.
