> did nothing except giving humans free will > universally hated by kikes, christcucks and muzzles and is a symbol of evil What did abrahatards mean by this?
>>540478243Abrahamicucks I should say, imagine having voluntary enslavement as your primary goal in both lives lmao
>Eternal bliss? >No thanks I would rather live in a world with Malaria.
>>540478403you can't escape enslavement doe there is always a handicap
>>540478526Malaria and bone cancer is how an all knowing God totally not demiurge tests you because he doesn't know what's gonna happen in advance and couldn't draw a conclusion based on 6 gorillion previous tests of all kinds
>>540478568You can, you just need to NOT go into the light when you die, and you need to tell the figure who's gonna larp as Jesus/Muhammad/Krishna/your grandfather to fuck off and that you're not buying it That's all but it takes a lot of dedication to resist
>>540478243stop thinking goy
>>540479067i'll personally micromanage your eternal damnation with permission from YHWH if you are lying
>>540478243he gave nothing, and he has no power that God doesn't give him. he's there as controlled test of human moral agency, which you've just failed
>>540479279It's either that or get the memory wipe and be thrown back into this bullshit >>540479302Which god, the real one or the one who demands human sacrifice, can't see his own reflection and can't defeat his worst enemy who he gave power to but can't withdraw
>>540478243How is this political?
>>540479302Who is the one administering the test?
>>540479579Majority of political decisions are made by these dorks who use their attempt at spirituality to decide on behalf of everyone else
>>540478243Chooses to leave heaven to try and help humanity they fucking reject his help and nail him to the fucking cross.The allegory is one of the heaviest lessons you can learn. After you understand it, you will have problems with God.
>>540478243It really does hinge around free will. If you ask a Christian why there is evil in a world made by a good god, they'll tell you "because of free will"
>>540479875Pretty sure the guy who was nailed to the cross was saying too much about the soul trap and how to escape it and to this day we're dealing with the confusion that the jannies created 2k years ago in order to sanitize the truth and keep the goyim in their place >>540479964In islam they basically said if you abide by rules ggod have you you'll go to heaven but in the end God still decides if you'll go to heaven or not so it means fuck all and he's still gonna do whatever he wants lmfao So essentially you have free will but you don't because everything is determined and that free will you have doesn't matter because it's not yours anyway and if you chose to be good you didn't earn that
>>540478243he lied to them so they disobey God you retard. he didnt give them free will.
>>540480842God could have seen that coming
>>540481606he did. I would argue the entire point of creating man was to set up satans fall to reveal his glory to his creation.
>>540478633You know none of that shit is real right?
>>540480842Yup. Adam and Eve already had free will, which is a basic premise of them being able to choose to disobey God.
He did that to corrupt human kind with sin and bring our souls to hell. Satan and his demons literally feed off of our suffering, you fags project and call God the demiurge so you can lay all of satans crimes at God's feet while you act like the devil is the real victim. He cost us our immortality and condemned us to a world of constant conflict.
>>540481993So this is the cope for an all knowing all powerful deity letting things he doesn't want to happen.. happen.
>>540481746Are you retarded?
>>540482043They literally only had one thing they weren't supposed to do. They did anyway and became undeserving of a perfect world. Assholes like you that still blame God for this just goes to show how much we really do deserve this world.
>>540482043lol who said anything about that other than you
>>540478243Does this leathery winged fop really appeal to the majority of men? I guess he looks cool, but he's an annoying asshole, isn't he?
>There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, in the end, 'Thy will be done.'C.S.Lewis thinks God is a pushover.
>>540482126Why are we punished for what those 2 dumb niggers did?
>>540478243he is endangering their enslavement of mankindif he does his trick again they will all lose their powerthats why they hate him, they are scarednever capitulatenever despair truth reigns supreme knowledge is power
>>540478243Satan didn't give humans free will.
>>540478243>gave humans free willHow is that? If you're referring to Eden they had the choice to eat the fruit, God merely warned of the consequences
>>540482259100% you committed more sins than Adam in your life.
>>540478243>hated by kikesNot true, kikes are always saying muh Satan isn’t so bad, he’s just another character. Jews are of their father the devil.
>>540481705"satan" =/= "prometheus" / "lucifer"
>>540482352Still doesn't answer the question of a supposed all loving good punishing those who never existed yet
>>540478243>did nothing except giving humans free willGod did that, God Gave humans free will not satan. Eve Chose to eat the apple because satan tempted her, satan did not grant her free willGod created free will because you cant love some one if you force them to, he gave us the choice to love him or reject him.
>>540482259Were being punished because now we understand the difference between rifht and wrong, we understand fully the consequences of our crimes but assholes like you do them anyway, that's what sin is and that's what the devil did, open our aouls to ain.
>>540482259Whoever's word has the most weight gets to dictate what's fair.
>>540482126So fucking what, they could have done way worse things, why would anyone give a shit about some stupid fruit on a tree that can be remade in infinite amounts
Did not give anything. Conditions correct on this particular far planet outpost. Implant the necessary DNA into a mammal so it has a drive to mine and bring machines to life. To seed technology on the outpost. The Creator has doubts and posits this creation may stay as the other animals. Cohort says theory is first chance it gets it will choose knowledge. Challenge accepted. You mined, you brought machines to life, you seeded technology. Your portion of the experiment is complete.
>>540482576>They could've done worse thingsYou need to be 18 to post here.
satan doesn't exist in the bible, it is a medieval myth, read into the text, using extra-biblical sources. then in the 1700-1900s edgy homosexual artists, poets, musicians decided to turn him into a literary figure of rebellion because the church was repressing their homosexual activities. catholicism is one gay psyop designed to feed precocious men into a homosexual hierarchy where they keep it on the downlow but control societies. orthodoxy is just alcoholics fermenting plums into vodka.
>>540482427same thing if you care to look deeper into it>>540482436all knowing before creation itselfhe knows who are his and they will follow him
>>540478243Free will imply you decided to make this shitty thread fo reveryone else to see.
>>540482704>Jesus talks about satan directly>extra biblical sources
>>540482500That sounds like the most extreme foid level of thinking lmao > You're guilty by default because someone you never knew supposedly did something that was against some completely mundane and useless rule and just because I punished you doesn't mean I'm the bad one here Lmao
>>540482440wow, you seem like an expert. Can you tell my why God runs away from bloody foreskins' in Exodus 4:24-26?
>Lucifer brought evil into the world, good was the default, evil but a perversion of that default>and that's why you have to embrace learning the lessons of pain (despite me telling you it's unnecessary) and work hard (even though our god's idea of good involves being lazy and infinitely given free gibs after he one day fixes it). >Don't believe any woke nonsense about equality. Niggers and and kikes are not our friends my son. You can tell from the fact God is all loving and would thus, logically, make us all equal and from the fact the gay book I don't ever actually read tells you kikes are god's chosen.>don't ever be a pussy who loves and forgives your enemies either. I have no idea where those pussy leftists get those ideas.
>>540479528>can't see his own reflectionHow come? We dont know I think.Or you read something else on this topic?
>>540478243Read genesis again.He did not give mankind free will.The snake (assuming it is Satan) gave us the ability to tell right from wrong (morality.)
>>540482796Because moses, being basically Gods man on earth, was not keeping the covenant he was commanded to keep, IE circumsising his own son, you cant have the guy who you picked to lead your people not following the rules you told him to lay down. Moses son was not circumcised so when that was done, it was proof that he was still following the covenant laid down, Basically stopping the whole "Rules for thee but not for me." So because god saw that his son was sacrificed, he basically went "Ok....thats what i thought."The old testament also makes 10x more sense when you realize its literally the jews going about and TECHNCIALLY not disobeying God, and then God TECHNICALLY not smiting them in response.
>>540483227>that his son was sacrificedThat his son was circumcised*
>>540479302you are entirely correct my beloved muslim enemy. we can agree on some things
>>540482748>Calls someone else foid coded>Ends his post with lmaoYou will never be a woman, tranny.
>>540478526You know who was protected from all disease and foot shortages? The rats in this experiment.
>>540481993Yeah. I don't get how such a fanatical nation such as Americans can know so little of their scripture. I mean, we're post-communist over here, even churchgoing puritans are fairly socially-secular, you have to hop the border to Poland to see any "God hates fags" posters or gefilte fish stickers on the back of a familh car, and in this heathen country everyone knows the biblical story of why the devil was banished from heaven - angels were created from a purer base material than humans, humans are literal dirt golems that God willed to life, and God showed humans more love than to angels, which made the proud, vain Lucifer enormously butthurt, so much so he talked smack to his own creator.>>540482043God being almighty and perfect doesn't mean he doesn't want us to have free will, which implies he can't know how a single individual's soul turns out until that creation applies its free will in life. "God works in mysterious ways" and all that, I am not some Thomas Aquinas over here or Seraphim Rose to divinate exactly why God wants us to have free will, but it is a feature and perk of this life.He shaped Adam out of clay in his own image, as a living-in-the-flesh copy of himself - for what purpose? to amuse himself? I don't know and doubt anyone has the authority to tell - and he loved his creation. Adam requested to be a pair-being like all the other wildlife in paradise, and God obliged and made him Eve, a feminized mirror of Adam. Butthurt Lucifer came along to tempt Adam and Eve and succeeded. Adam became capable of independently acquiring knowledge, and God said "oh snap, now all he needs is immortality and he'll become a god himself" and saw a problem in that for whatever reason. So before Adam could eat from the tree of eternal life, he was banished from paradise (where he had an infinite lifespan and immunity from disease due to God's presence)
>>540479279You're a circumcised eunuch, lmao. What are you knowingly or unknowingly doing to help Ba'al today.>Dying from a lack of knowledge
>>540483621>Dude, people are just like rats, just trust the science!
>>540482043>>540483744But having a finite lifespan on Earth, which was basically almost like paradise anyway, would not be much of a punishment and learning experience for the soul. So God curse Earth to only yield food after hard work and tasked Adam with making sure Eve doesn't die of starvation, making Adam a slave to the very soil from which he was shaped.And since Eve was a daft cunt that would prefer to listen to a talking lizard rather than her God or her man, she was punished, from among all of the female animals of the world, to suffer out-of-ordinary pain and near-lethal exertion in childbirth.>>540483621Unironically this.I'm not a christian zealot of some sort, but I will not abide criticizm based on shitty arguments and half-knowledge. I will sooner share the table with an eductated beheader and rapist (an educated muslim) rather than a lefty freak
>>540478243Satan did not give us free will. God did. Satan tempted Eve in The Garden and Adam, being a simp, went along with her. They gained the knowledge of good and evil, and disobeyed their creator, thus leading to their expulsion from paradise.
To expose how truly woke a christcuck is, ask him if Eden is preferable to the world he has and his dumbass attempt to oppose Satan will let him in through the front door.>"Pain doesn't need to exist. This idea that any sort of sacrifice is necessary to facilitate the modern world is a fiction spread by oppressors who want more than they need."Without any mention of who said that, when, why, or any fucking context at all, read that random dumbass tiktok quote and tell me if you think, honestly, that the quote I wrote above was written by a Christian conservative or a cucked troon loving leftwing socialist. Tell me with a straight face if you saw someone say that your mind wouldn't immediately think it's a libcuck.The fact is, Christianity's best lessons all fly in the total face of its own core thesis, and its greatest leaders all achieved greatness by bending or breaking Christianity's rules. Heaven isn't enjoyable to someone with a high time preference because people like that have projects they work towards and there is nothing to work toward in Heaven. You know who can enjoy Heaven? Hedonists; people for whom pleasure is a moment by moment thing. Drug addicts and gooners shout go to Heaven, because they obsesses only with euphoric dopamine hits. Why the fuck would a hard worker enjoy it? Why would anyone who has defined their entire personality around denying themself pleasure ever be able to enjoy it?More importantly, if you teach people evil is not natural to the world, you leave people extremely poorly equipped to confront it. Why can't I Defund the Police? Evil isn't natural! People aren't evil, just oppressed, so let me bring the migrants here where they will finally be free and they will start acting human, right?You implied civilization, not anarchy, is the default. Is it any surprise the Christian world, uniquely, is experiencing a crisis of people who do not believe civilization needs to be maintained?
>>540482096Are you?
>>540478526>free will? nah bro you gotta be a slave to the great jew in the sky
>>540483792Your comment is woke
>>540479279>i'll personally micromanage your eternal damnation with permission from YHWH
>>540483792>put both into pack both rats and humans into Universe 25 cage or a city respectively >give both ideal conditions they could never achive in the wild>both see family units collapse>both see their females become insufferable cunts>both see rise in single motherhood>both see the rise in chads or chad aspiring males>those who cannot become chads become neets, incels, or trannies>faggot start popping up everywhere>troons start popping up everywhere>women start abandoning and killing their own children on mass>women become violent and adopt 'male like traits'>birthrate collapses for both>some male rats go fucking insane and go on random killing sprees where they are inevitably killed by the other rats, no relation to school shooters though right?>the malformed rat's eventual sole mode of organziation become gang aimed at killing what rats aren't yet corrupted to act like filthy degenerates, no relation to anything we've seen out of communism and other liberation ideologies thought, right?I've never seen a single conservative ever argue the rat experiment doesn't apply, only leftists, and they did it on the same basis as you of 'lol, humans are different'. To say it doesn't apply makes me wonder why the fuck anyone should be dumb enough to listen to on fighting the left. Nigger, you're already half-way to being a leftist yourself of you don't believe pain needs to exist. Your kids or grandkids will troon out, it'll be your fault, and you'll blame others too, not seeing how your own dumbass values enabled it.
>>540484270You lost tranny hahaha
>>540485382just say you hate women. the way you're going about it makes you look cringe and obsessed chuddie
>>540481746God? Correct, none of that shit is real.
>>540485505Shit bait, m8
>>540485461Jesus fucked little boys and you lost by virtue of being born a worthless polnigger
>>540485505>>540485793>you fuck little boys>no YOU fuck little boys>y-yeah but at least I'm topping them
>>540485505I am right about everything so yes, it does follow that I would hate women.
lucifer didn't give them free will, dipshit, they already had it or else they wouldn't have been able to disobey God and eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evillucifer just lied to eve and she hustled adam's dumb ass alonggenesis is a parable about keeping your bitch in line, btw. she WILL believe the whispers of serpents, she WILL fail to tell you about it, and you WILL bear the consequences. do something about it.
>>540485686thanks for the (You) fren>>540485857who are you quoting?>>540485870yeah i know im just giving you advice to just get to the point instead of writing a bunch of shit nobody is gonna read
>>540485505the only people who don't hate women are simps and trannies. men hate women, fags hate women, and women especially hate women. simps crave them and trannies crave to be them. craven retards, both.
>>540483779stop thinking about my penis homo
>>540485530Yes.
>Be told you can have paradise so long as you don't eat from this one single particular tree out of however many>Eat fruit>Paradise stolenWtf?
>>540478243>Satan>giving humans free willWhich tic tok did you learn this from? >>540482225>doesn't know where the second category ends up. >>540485793
>>540486026Welcome, fren
>>540478243God gave us free will but sinning was always off the table to live in his presence, and since we didnt have the knowledge of good and evil we couldnt technicaly sin.Do you think the average person is better off figuring out things on their own?
>>540478243Satan IS the abrahamic god. The modern misunderstanding (thoguh i doubt the church elite have the same misunderstanding) that there are actually two gods in the texts. One God, the creator, unbiased factory. The other God is a program that takes from this factory and gives meaning to the material. The hell stuff was added way later. The Jesus stuff was added way later. It hit me when being in half trans from Zikr prayers. There is no god but god therefor you should worship yourself and society.
>>540483744>So before Adam could eat from the tree of eternal life, he was banished from paradiseWasnt that after Eve ate the fruit?
>>540478243objective not what the snake did (they already had free will). also the snake wasn't satan unless you take revelations as true and there's a lot of evidence it's prolly fanfiction
I like jesus because he was the first antisemite But if that wasnt the case your guy may be based. But I like jesus
>>540483744>Adam requested to be a pair-being like all the other wildlife in paradisefalse. adam made no such request>and God said "oh snap, now all he needs is immortality and he'll become a god himself"false. it was the knowledge of good and evil that made us like God. immortality was not part of it. God's issue with that is uncertain, more likely he knew that humanity wouldn't be able to morally progress without the cycle of death.and again, satan being the snake is christian revisionism thru revelations. actual Satan is in Job.
>Zeus/Jupiter/Wotan/HitlerArchetype of the first radical. True knowledge, wisdom and freedom. >YHWH/Yeshua/Saturn/SatanThe ultimate deception, the jewish rot and hell.
>>540482711>same thingso you are saying ha-satan and helel are the same ? since you imply that your claim of both being the same is based on >looking deeper into itlooks to me like you have not looked deep enough yethave a nice day
>>540489840any occult route end at the same destinationsatan doesnt care which you take
>>540482500Cope. The entire world runs on cruelty. Entopy and the struggle for limited resources is what keeps the cogs of life turning. Suffering (punishment) is not inflicted on the living because they sin, but because they are helpless against, and weaker than the ones who dish it out. A lion eats a gazelle, a nigger rapes a woman to death, the state puts the nigger away or the police ventillates him. In this example the nigger is the only one who sinned, and lo and behold it is not God who serves justice but other hmans. Sin is a human concept. You can't explain the way the world works centered around it, because the world (supposedly made by God) is entirely indifferent to it.There maight be an afterlife, there might be divine judgement, but these are entirely unfalsifiable and matters of faith, with no relation to our observable reality.
>>540478243>giving humans free willGod gave humans Free WillThe devil manipulated them into chosing wrong so he can accuse them - that was his role satan literally means accuserYou are deliberately conflating different facts you disingenous demon worshipper.
>>540483038Old testament books are Jewish. The New Testament is Jesus. Learn the difference.
>>540482704>satan doesn't exist in the bible, Zechariah 3 you disingenous midwit1And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. 2And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire? Satan = AccuserAlso Job 21Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. 2And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. Also Mathew 12 26 26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?and Mark 3 2323 So He called them to Himself and said to them in parables: “How can Satan cast out Satan?
>>540478243>free willThey had free will to begin with, hence the choice. Retard.
>>540478526If everything is bliss, then nothing is. You need the bad to appreciate the good
>>540484270FalsehoodsBitch is not Christian is Communist atheist, chink literally ripped organs from his citizens alive and transplanyed them not to mention ctypical commie chink cannibalism which stil occurs in chinklandia. Fuck off with ypur logical fallcies.
>>540490545akshually most of the NT is Paul and people larping as Paul
>>540490807>Chinese dissect subhuman migrants for their sole thing of value, their organs, and make them accessible to their own population.Based, I wish my government loved me enough to harvest the organs of Somali shit stains to lengthen the lives of American citizens.
>>540478243Most illiterate biblical take ever.
>>540478243It's a Jewish fairytale constructed from pagan and other near Jewish fairytales.
>>540478243>What did abrahatards mean by this?why are satanists so retarded? nigga you posted a fucking retarded guy from an abrahamic book you faggot. good lord yall FAGGOTS
>>540478243>satan gave humans free will I am a pagan and even i know abrahamcucks think YHWH (moloch/saturn) gave free will to humans
>>540492125>Chinese dissect subhuman migrants for their sole thing of value, their organs, and make them accessible to their own population.They were dissecting and ripping out organs of their own citizens that were deemed a threat to the party leaders you fucking word twisting liar>Based, I wish my government loved me enough to harvest the organs of Somali shit stains to lengthen the lives of American citizens.In your case you'd be ripoed apart and your organ would go to your dementia stricken trump and his jewish sons in law so it would prolong their life to hold your children in slavery for a little longer.
>>540478243>did nothing except giving humans free willwhat the fuck are you saying retard.
>>540490545the NT and OT confirm each other, they go hand in hand.
>>540478243We had free will, dipshit. Thats why Eve was able to choose to disobey God and eat the fruit and why Adam was free to join her.
>>540483744Holy fuck I'm not reading all that seethe, faggot. You're worse than fucking trump crying about iran.
>>540489941>satan doesnt carehow ironic
>>540490301how do you explain that there have been religious beliefs that existed way before that one you have adapted to ?
>>540478526>but what if massa whips us
