Do you really think shooting immigrant children would improve your life? It's the capitalists who are overworking you and paying you low wages. It's the landlords who are raising your rent every year. It's the corporations who are accumulating monopoly power and raising the prices of goods and services every year.
>>540478550To take the bait.Yes it would. Streets would immediately be safer, crime would drop across the board, social services would go from being overworked, to having enough to deal with the native problem children. Grades would improve immediately, and it would make it so prisons dont end up overcrowded in the near future. Frees up police by a lot. The lack of excess non whites would create more downward pressure on overpriced housing. Reducing rent and overall inflated cost.I can go on and on.
>>540478550I don't know about improving my life, but it would probably convince immigrant children to stop coming to the US.
>>540478550If, in your opinion, capital oligarchs are not entitled to the fruits of my labor or that of my fore-bearers, why should immigrants be entitled to the same?
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>>540478550Deport them all.
>>540479311Immigrants are generally wage earners. What are you talking about?
>>540478550It might be amusing I guess
>>540479135>To take the bait.Stop this. This board is unusuable.
>>540478550>It's the capitalists who are overworking you and paying you low wagesbecause a migrant will take the job for less>It's the landlords who are raising your rent every yearbecause immigrants cause more demand he can ask what he wants>It's the corporations who are accumulating monopoly power and raising the prices of goods and services every yearbecause the economy is ecpected to grow with the import of new people
You can frame any political belief in terms of>if it's a choice between your vision failing and some amount of people dying to achieve it, which would you choose?And almost everyone would choose the latter option if they're sufficiently passionate about it. Whether that means killing "racists" to achieve progressive utopia, or "reactionaries" to achieve gay space communism, or "foreigners" to achieve the ethnostate, everyone tacitly accepts the principle that "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs". This doesn't mean that the person in question is heartless or has a lust for violence and suffering for its own sake, nor does it even require them to rationalize that those people "deserve it" rather than it being a regrettable but necessary sacrifice. It's just a rhetorical trick to dehumanize your opponents so that you can dismiss them out of hand instead of seriously engaging with the points they're making
>>540480494This is completely wrong lmao. There is nothing in democratic socialism for example that requires anybody to die.
>>540479557I will repeat myself since you either do not understand or are willingly obtuse.Given that you are clearly arguing from a marxist point of view, I assumed that your objection to capitalists, landlords and corporations is based on the marxist argument of labor value theft. Now, while imo labor value theory is not actually entirely true, for the sake of good faith, I have decided to assume it to be true in order to steel-man your argument.That argument being that corporations, capitalists and landlords are not entitled to the labor produced by a working person, and that them doing so is morally wrong.Once again, I will assume this to be true. If so, why therefore, should immigrants be entitled to the labor produced by the local population instead?An immigrant is not a settler. A settler is someone who enters an uninhabited area of land and produces a net positive economic surplus and value through his own labor, which he should, according to marxist thought, be entitled to (assuming he did not conquer the land first).An immigrant however, is not a settler. He enters an already existing society or community, which usually has already produced a capital surplus in the form of infrastructure, wealth, information, behavioral and cultural norms, for the sake of their own entitlement, over a period of several hundred, if not even thousands of years prior.>Immigrants are generally wage earnersWhat right does this immigrant have, be they wage earner or otherwise, to be entitled to the fruits of hundreds of years of local, communal, civilizational labor of a people he does not belong to? What right has he to benefit from their infrastructure, their economic systems, their social systems, their laws, their customs, their culture, their lives, thoughts and dreams? He is not entitled to any of it. Under your marxist framework, he is as much a thief and a parasite as any capitalist, landlord or corporation.
>>540480650So in the hypothetical where one guy dying or not represents the difference between consigning humanity to brutal capitalist exploitation forever, or everyone prospering under democratic socialism, you would still let him live?
>>540480737You are attempting to misdirect from class divisions to national divisions lmao. Workers created the infrastructure and social systems. Immigrants belong to the working class so they are entitled to those systems
>>540480966>Workers created the infrastructure and social systemsWorkers did not create infrastructure and social systems. Distinct, specific and historical PEOPLE and their families and communities did for the sole sake and entitlement of those SPECIFIC people, families and communities. And while people can be, across different regions, cultures, families, etc be generally assigned to classes (working class, ruling class, etc), the general entitlement of a class in the aggregate (as in, the working class is entitled to the fruits of their own labor) does not translate to an entitlement in the specific.A venezualan worker, born and living on the other side of the world, is not entitled to the fruits of labor produced by working class people and communities who have lived, died and worked in bavaria for the past two millennia, and vice versa. Any other argument is an obfuscation of theft.
>>540478550Sure, shoot the little duckers, they don’t belong here.We should shoot OP after that for being a big niggerfaggot
