Asian =/= yellow
>>540492078Whenever you see a graph of student achievement by race Asians are almost always left out
Have asians been subjected to a lifetime of psychological torture like White people have been?
>>540492134They look yellowish to me I think you're just color blind
Asian parents force their kids to study 24/7 whereas white parents don't care and want their kids to have lives.
>>540492078The best time to meaningfully measure achievement gaps are when they clear out of collegeThat is when a child becomes a man and has a clear vision of what he wants to do in lifeThat is when his brain begins to function optimallyThese child measurements are not usefulChina still lags behind in AiChina still lags woefully behind in microprocessorsChina still cant build their own passenger airplanes like Airbus or Boeing
>>540492078Asians are a psychologically raped workslave race
>>540492078Both those chicks ride that white dudes cock while you were studying
extremely domesticated behavior
>>540492078Asians tend to study more and work harder. it is not a racial thing.
We get our educated dumbed down so brown and black people(thirdies) don't cry out racism.
>>540492078Raise whites the same way as asians and they would outperform every time
>>540492078simply the same way white women outperform white menIt's all performative and useless when at the end of the day it's white men who can do anything worthwhile
>>540492078
>>540492078>one comes from a culture where you get your shit kicked in if you get anything less than perfect marks in a system designed to put regurgitation of objectively useless bullshit on a pedestal, and genetically superior when it comes to rote memorization.>the other is relentlessly demonized for being the creators of the modern world, forever envied by the former as they can’t/didn't/won't invent anything of value, forever lampooned by brown/black trash as thieves but followed by those same people for gibs, completely checked out of a system now overrun by those they tried to help.Really makes you think. If whites ever fucked up, it was because they chose to be the prometheans for the rest of the dark, stupid, disgusting world. Let the chinks have it.
>>540492584>only confirms the point pointed out in the OPyou white nigga brain, they are saying ASIAN AMERICANS. In otherwords, they get the same negro friendly education but they still kick our asses at it.
Need tests for creativity and innovation.
>>540493197>our assesKill yourself, right now, jeet.
>>540492078Whites built the civilization that they thrive in. Nice try meme flag gay boy
>>540493251If I were a jeet, I'd say 'your asses' you fucking nigga brain idiot. Are you a boomer who got fucked by leaded gas or what?
>>540492078Asian suicide is higher than whites for the same reason. Parents can force their kids into being the perfect elite "being" that passes every requirement, but in the end what does it accomplish for them even in the west?
>>540492354This. Look up 'Tiger Mom'.
>>540492078WHITE POWERRRRRRRRRRRR
>>540492078How many actual white Americans even exist anymore. Given that they classify mutts as white.
>>540492078Firstly, Whites score higher in the subjects of science comprehension and mathematics whiles slants score higher in vocabulary and reading comprehension. Which makes some sense given the latter is rout memorization. Secondly a bunch of those slants are foreigners who came to the US on grants and thus had to pass certain requirements beforehand. Thirdly the mean IQ for whites in the US is 104-105 which is identical to the Japs, higher than the Chinks claimed mean of 102 which is likely closer to 92 given how much the Chink government cooks its number.
>>540492078NE-asians are pretty smart in the first place(average IQ 105ish), and America mostly imported the smarter ones. Should be expected that they outperform whites.
>>540493197The slants in the US are often the children of first generation immigrants who came here because they possessed credentials. However regression to the mean of the population they've been derived from over 2-4 generations reduces their mean IQ.
>>540492078Asian dudes are big cucks and get beat up and killed by niggers and shit on by Jews in Hollywood and discriminated against by white women and Jews in secondary education but still vote for liberals like niggers Lol
>>540492078Viet, Chink, Jap, Korean, and other fish head parents are actively engaged in their kids schooling where they hire them personal tutors and pursue activities outside the public school system like academic competitions.White parents smoke the herbal jew, treat school as free daycare and don't give a fuck at all they simply trust it will all work out but schools keep declining every year to clown status while stoned parents don't pay attention.It's a myth that they "study more" implying they are by themselves doing rote homework. They have a chink grad student come and personally teach them all the shit the school left outI only know this because I'm white and literally the only white parent at these events everyone else is azn.
>>540493542The funny thing is that Japan, White Americans, Slant Americans, and Finland leapfrog each other for the top spot in standardized testing. The mean IQ for whites in America is around 105, it jumped up from the previous mean of 100 at which it was set in 1977 because even a few percentage points of 86 IQ spics can pull down an average. Thus when spics were separated into their own category the apparent mean of the white population increased.
>>540493558Then the studies would be such as 'Asians are declining in academic performance as second and third generation Asians normalize in the US'But it ain't the case, aint it?
>>540492196have they been targeted for de-evolution by rich satanist pedo jews? (actually they have but that stage comes later)
>>540492196Yeah, not to mention genetic subversion with goyslop & vaxx that makes everyone mentally ill & delusional. If only you knew how bad things really are.
>>540493602This is one reason we can't have even the "good" slants imported. They are congenital boot-lickers. The very few roof-korean types are first generation slants who experienced other societies firsthand and therefore have the context to understand just how good they have it in America where they were allowed to engage in ethnic nepotism and get ahead while not being bothered by whites. The subsequent generations have the same behavioral propensities are white populations who are congenerical libtards, ie they are addicted to social signaling. Whatever the current political orthodoxy is they will vehemently voice their support for it.
>>540492078>What happened?I know jeets and chinkbugs wont understand this (because they dont have souls), but taking all of the AP courses + being enrolled in 2 separate community colleges so you can maximize the amount of dual credit courses you can fit into a calendar year is not the point of growing up.You can only be a true king if you are well rounded. Education, Athletics, Music, Socializing, and Recreation is what that takes. Being a poorly socialized sperg that crammed in 30 credit hours into a single year because their parents figured out it is mathematically possible does not make you a king. It makes you a souless bug that is only useful as a slave to a hive.Again I dont expect chinkbugs and jeets to actually be able to understand this concept.
>>540493633>Viet, Chink, Jap, Korean, and other fish head parents are actively engaged in their kids schooling where they hire them personal tutors and pursue activities outside the public school system like academic competitions.Doesn't increase IQ.
>>540492078the albinos of today and not the albinos that sailed seas to loot resources from global south. most are feminized trannys and cucks
>>540493853>Athletics, Music, Socializing,These are all pointless pursuits unless you are good at themAnd people who are introverted will never change not matter how much you try to socialize themBeing an introvert is often an innate behaviour that is then very difficult to change
>>540493445Excluding Castizos/Mestizos, Italians, jews, and Mulattos? 32-37% White at best. Le 56% is an outdated meme, census data is inaccurate, and DOC classified nons (largely mulattos and Hispanics) as White.
>ME SPEND FORTY YEARS MEMORIZE 9239101827101!!!>ME SO SMALT!!!Ok how that bomb
>>540493950Well the article is talking about academic achievements not their natural IQ. Anon did a pretty good job explaining why. I remember going to school. Not one white parent sincerely gave a shit. If their kid started struggling they wouldn't even try, just immediately write the kid off and tell him not to bother and he could just work and didnt really need school. The asian parents saw an opportunity and took it.
>>540493558>The slants in the US are often the children of first generation immigrants who came here because they possessed credentialsYes therefore their parents intelligence has no effect on them
>>540494111ContdFrom GoogleAIYes, introvert behavior is largely innate. Research shows that introversion is rooted in biological differences—such as how your brain handles dopamine and blood flow—and is strongly heritable. However, life experiences and environment also shape how these natural traits are expressed as you grow.Genetics and Brain BiologyInborn temperament: Studies on twins show that the trait of introversion is heavily inherited from parents.Brain pathways: Introvert brains process rewards and dopamine faster, meaning they get overwhelmed by loud or busy places much quicker than extroverts.Blood flow: Scans show introverts have higher blood flow in parts of the brain tied to deep thinking, planning, and memory.
>>540493690Most studies don't make such distinctions they just generalize "asians" which is itself an issue given that you'd expect a more precipitous decline from say Phlips or Zipperheads than Japs. And remember that the slant birthrate in the US is absolutely terrible, 0.5 or less after a single generation. Thus the only source of growth or even replacement of the slant population is the importation of fresh slants with aforementioned accreditation. The only demographic of any size(10M+) in any industrialized nation which reproduces at above replacement rate are right wing whites in America. They've maintained their 2.3-2.7 birthrate for a century without any real variance trough time, the variance is how "conservative" they are according to the descriptive criteria assigned by the General Social Survey in 1927. https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/>But it ain't the case, aint it?I mean it is when you look at what domestic students earn STEM degrees, their GPAs, and standardized tests the East Asians do largely normalize with whites. The whites have slightly more STEM degrees per capita when comparing those born in the US. If you want to count only right wing whites than the discrepancy would be far greater in favor of the whites. You do see slants being overrepresented in certain voluntary academic associations at the secondary education level(ie highschool) but that's probably because their nagging mothers force them into it. The Gifted program for example requires the parents to agree to testing and the submission of the student. My parents did not and my IQ is 151. That's just one anecdotal data point but in rural America lots of parents want their children to have minimal contact with the public education system due to how it encourages maladaptive behavior.
>>540492078Cut all the spics form the stats and both will be about equal (even if you work in their favour and remove the jeetish)>>540492466And yet Euros import violent reetards that wont work and a slave race that only spreads disease instead of sheets.
>>540492078last time I checked an AC-130 beats an A in math tests. White people have dominated warfare for millennia.
Stop calling Asians honorary Whites when they are already better than Whites. You look are the catagories that right wingers pretend to care about and you'll see Asians are leading the way. Crime) they don't commit any, less than 1%Family) lowest divorce rate and childbirth outside of marriageFinance) highest median incomeEducation) you already knowWhites are basically Hispanic adjacent
>>540494468Chang dangs and jeets doesn't sound like a winning combination
>>540492078purely socioeconomic factorsjokes aside, every race realist worth his salt recognises that the White race, as far as you'd still be able to call Americans "White" is degenerating alarmingly fast, both through miscegenation and through a mammonist consumer culture prioritising racial weakness over strengthif we want to get better, we will have to ruthlessly kill all the mongrels and sickly retards, and carefully raise new, healthy generations via eugenics
>>540494468>when they are already better than Whites.NopeSee >>540492451
>>540494333>has to move the goal posts to birth rates>doesn't realize most Whites have left STEM for finance over a decade ago and more so at the graduate levels>doesn't realized its mainly Asians working in the US and global Tech industriesyeah, you're coping.
Goy Whites are incredibly good at murdering everyone their white Jewish masters tell them to and then claiming they built it all. Most discussion with these people is completely pointless, their ultimate goal for anybody non-white is to have them in chains and cut off their hands when they don't meet quota.
>>540494252It does, but regression to the mean erodes that advantage. Two slants with IQs over 130 have a kid with an IQ of 120. That child breeds(or maybe not) with another slant of the same social class with an IQ of 115(average white or slant college student) and produces offspring with and IQ of 110-115. Do you understand? You'd have to enforce very strict selection on a relatively large and genetically isolated population(3k+) for at least 5 generations to before you could create what is effectively a new mean IQ for that population which would be noticeably elevated above that of the population from which it is derived.
>>540492078Whites are niggers compared to asians desu
>>540492078So Chinks are more Jewish and more NPC, is what happened then Anon
>>540493682And that despite some spic sneaking in as white.>>540493950Maybe not but the topic is academic tests.If you go black and be like"them white numbas juju is racis n shiet" it sure wont help the child with either.Dont make me link that vid again where the nobel africans claim that their magic is just as legit as science while being on a smartphgone.
>>540492196What you mean like their parents lobbing their foreskins off the moment they're born?
>>540494576China doesn't even know how many people live in their country you expect me to believe they know how smart they are? A bunch of chinese in jewish universities doesn't phase me in the slightest, at least in the way they want it to.
>>540492078only the smartest asians escape, and asians grind like crazy. PISA only tests elite schools. adjusted for hours of study whites and jews come out on top.
>>540494576As I understand it regression to the mean stops after one generation.
>>540494561Given that jews have a lower mean IQ(100) than whites(105) and there are more white mean with an IQ over 130 in the entire nation than their are jews in totality you're picture doesn't really say what you think it does. Rather it indicates a political impetus to give university slots to foreign students rather than the glut of whites who would be qualified for such slots and a preference towards jews. Who at a national level are underrepresented in the STEM fields by the way. I hypothesis that you are a happa, my condolences.
>>540493813Asian women have been following a trend the last two elections of voting more more republican they were the only group where the women voted more for republicans than the men of there raceIf that trend continues we might see the first major gender political split in demographics
>>540494223>>540494676What does prep and extra hours in school actually achieve? A somewhat higher SAT score at best? Won't turn an average kid into an engineer.
>>540495041Scholarships especially for poor kids or kids with parents pretending to be poor. Graduating college as an engineer is something a lot of people can do if they study enough even if they aren't the best candidate. Obviously an 80 IQ guy will eventually hit a dead end but there are lots of engineering fields they can swamp even if they're aren't especially bright if they cram enough.
>>540492078Asians are more conscientious, as are females. Their performance in primary and secondary education does not correlate with their inherent abilities.
>>540495041higher grades on standardized tests. That's all my education was was how to pass standardized tests, I imagine that's what the chinks do. At that point you can start "gaming" the tests
>>540492078>by fifth gradeWhat an odd place to stop.
>>540494813>China doesn't even know how many people live in their country you expect me to believe they know how smart they are?I in fact do not and that is my point. The Chink government claims the mean IQ of 102, that that might be true if the sample set are elite students in a first tier city. The chinks submitted to PISA data undergo a harsh selection and China absolutely refuses to allow foreign observers or independent data collection by an international body like all the other participants. If you assume that their data set is dervived from academically exceptional college-bound students then it should be about one standard deviation above the real mean of the population. Similarly expats who are selected for based on academic criterea are usually at least a standard deviation above the mean of the population they are derived from. Thus I suspect that the real mean IQ of China is between 90 and 95. But as you said the Chinks not only suck at collecting data they have every reason to lie for the sake of "face".
>>540492078Copium. White people don't want to learn math and are easily demoralized.>>540492354And then their kids make way less money, are gatekept out of lucrative fields because they are fundamentally uneducated, and seethe about Asians on the internet.
>>540492354>>540493382All the Asian success stories really turn out to be nothing. They don't go on to invent stuff, they just have a regular life like an average white.
>>540494727kek gottem
>>540492196They've been called white adjacent for a few years and in place like NYC and San Francisco they lose out on advance placement classes.I've yet to see blacks and whoever else complain about Asians being a majority at some universities. It'll come soon.
>>540495287no one seethes about asians, who will themselves get gatekept/discriminated by college admissions. white kids are still doing fine, you have to filter by non-hispanic to see it though.the only asians anyone seethes at are poos shitting up everything, and only because its still illegal to kill them.
>>540495041>>540495200>>540495221Recently most schools got rid of SATs for applications. Though professors are petitioning to bring them back because how lazy and stupid students are now.
>>540495041On average an asian student takes the SAT 4 times vs 1.2 for white students.
>>540494576>Two slants with IQs over 130 have a kid with an IQ of 120I doubt it
>>540492078Those poor kids get ground so hard the first time they can breathe is when they finally finish uni and get an entry level job. They study every 7 am to 9 pm and by sunday theyre so tuckered out they just sleep a full day. Let the kids play.
>>540495491We all know that is meant to admit niggers, spics, wammins, and assorted shitskins.
>>540492078> What happened?One anon wrote shit. Like you do. I can write that polidh people are the honest ones worldwide too. I can write anything. Like the guy you referred to. Dumb nigger.
>>540492078>studies time and time again show that whites, especially boys, get significantly worse grades than anyone else for the same performance>easily outperform everyone else with blind gradingYeah, truly a mystery, haha.
>>540492078That's because whites don't take education in the US seriously until highschool and by that time they are already far behind. It's a culture that doesn't turn kids into robots as soon as they are born.
>>540492078Asians waste formative years on cramming. Instead of developing right/wrong and morals, they literally remain baby level, 1-skill point in every skill and metric (even spatial awareness and movement) besides the skill they were made to cram. They will try to max that out. Now imagine these people trying to navigate issues such as greedy boomers, fallout of debt economy, limited resources, secret societies, female hypergamy. The truth is most of them are literally grug tier people.
>>540495559That's how it works for everybody, two geniuses with IQs of 150 don't breed to produce another genius under most circumstances. If you are looking at extremely exceptional intelligence it often involves the interplay of several epigenetic(i know the term is overused suck it up) factors interacting to produce an unusual phenotype. Now if you breed those people together long enough you will elevate the mean IQ of a population as you are selecting for genes which are expressed as a higher general intelligence(G) in almost any phenotype but the freaks are still going to be freaks. I have 5 kids for that reason, at least one should be exceptional but I don't expect all of them to be.
REMINDERThe op (kekke) is a 38 year old trooned out wog from australia. He doesn't work and literally does not go outside. His life revolves around spamming 4chan
>>540495758White boys are the most contrarian and the most likely to call out perceived bullshit or otherwise be "disruptive" in a non-nigger fashion. And honestly their "disruption" is a far bigger concern for a kiked up education system. Can't have them questioning the morality play that is history as taught in public schools.
>>540492078top video game speed runners are white. some of them are asian lolnone of them are black
>>540495026>Rather it indicates a political impetus to give university slots to foreign students rather than the glut of whitesmore fucking cope. Asians are the most discriminated race at university enrollment
>>540495823Those first generate Chinese who end up having kids in america aren't 130 IQ, they're just regular 115 or 105 chinese who couldn't make it in china but had rich parents.They aren't two 130s who breed to make 120.They are 105s who breed to make another 105 who outperforms Americans for no reason.
>>540495939speed running in video games requires strategizing which niggers are incapable of
>>540493542>NE-asians are pretty smart in the first place(average IQ 105ish)Has it ever occurred to you that the statistics coming out of Asia are fake and gay?
>>540492078They are smarter than nepo babies.
>>540492078This isn't news, it's been know that Japs mog at school
>>540492078Are you telling it's not socioeconomic factor?
>>540496100>They are 105s who breed to make another 105 who outperforms Americans for no reason.But that's not what the data says. The data says that the whites have more STEM degrees and a higher GPA in their major classes while earning those degrees? And in standardized testing which race scores higher switches places every other year. And that's probably with some spics or other trash being defined as which by the data collection methodology. My point is that Japs and Jugheads are roughly equivalent to whites in terms of (G). Their willingness to regurgitate bullshit about Grapes of Wrath doesn't mean shit to me, I don't value it was it is merely a compliance test. That's what most non-STEM education is, a test to see if you are both smart enough to memorize bullshit and enough of a tool to regurgitate it without question.
>>540492078School is about regurgitating information and trusting completely in the system. They are better at that school culturally.
>>540492078>nigger culture>no mandatory uniforms>sports obsession>retarded white guilt parentsi think these are to blamethere are a lot of dumb asian wiggers . imagine they don't do well in school
Yes, it's almost like whitoid supremacy is a myth. But i don't expect rightoids to ever admit it. Their entire identity hinges on their silly belief that they are the "master race"
>>540492078Whites invented the transistor which is the only reason why you can post on the internet.
>>540492078>Why does the average White not do as well as children of the top tier Asians who made it to the US?How does the average White kid living in Japan perform against the average Japanese student? Probably noticeably better.
>>540496597Meds now kike.
>>540492078How will this lead to innovation tho?
>>540496670A lot of the hapas in Japan intentionally speak broken english because showing their full abilities causes the other students to lose face and relentlessly engage in bullying. It's a real clown show, you wouldn't believe the extent of cruelty, stupidity and corruption in asia. It's arguably all on the level of India or even Africa, just some of it cleverly polished for foreign eyes and upsold. Don't forget what kind of place it was before westerners intervened.
>>540492078>Asian>whiteyup, i'm not reading this anti-white propaganda slop
So much 100 IQ White cope in this thread.
>>540492078If Asians are smarter than whites why do they have so little to show for it?
>>540492078Where do Hapas fall in these stats? That’s the real question. America is creating new races in real time here, and based off the absurd number of wmaf couples I see in my area they are going to be a sizable group in the near future. It’s not going to be white, black and Asian in the future, but managerial class Hapas against the low class mulattos and spics of all colors straddling the middle somewhere.
>>540495313Most engineers dont invent anything ever. Engineer is a ridiculously broad term. Its not like every electrical engineer reinvents the transistor or anything really. A person of average intelligence and enough drive can do way more than people think they can.
>>540492078>1 post by this id>memeflag>strawman
>>540497562The whole question starts from a shaky assumption. You’re treating “Asians” and “whites” like they’re single, uniform groups with the same histories, governments, and starting conditions, which just isn’t true. A country’s development isn’t determined by some racial IQ scoreboard it’s shaped by colonization, wars, political stability, access to resources, and global power structures. A lot of Asian countries spent long periods under colonial rule or went through major upheavals that stalled development. Despite that, places like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and now China have become major economic and technological powers. India, after being heavily deindustrialized under British rule, is now one of the fastest‑growing economies. So the idea that Asians have “little to show for it” doesn’t really match reality. And more importantly, intelligence isn’t a racial trait to begin with. Reducing entire civilizations to “smart vs. not smart” oversimplifies history and ignores how complex national development actually is.
>>540492196THIS
>>540492078Sitting inside concrete institution buildings is slavery for subhumans.
Asians are good as tests and evaluations, whites still invent nearly everything.
>>540492466its funny because aristotle said the same (even when his 'asia' only extended to india), but he also said europeans were disorganized and would always have their freedom, but not much else. he'd never have guessed that they'd lose that too.
>>540497735retarded due to being mostly filipino and vietnamese
>>540498952But that statement oversimplifies history and gives way too much credit to the idea that invention is tied to race. Innovation is complex and depends on things like political stability, access to capital, education systems, industrial infrastructure, and whether a society actually had the freedom to develop and patent new technology. Europe industrialized earlier largely because it wasn’t colonized, it was the one doing the colonizing (except Ireland, and the Balkans). That gave European countries massive economic advantages, global resource access, and the ability to build institutions that supported scientific research and invention. Meanwhile, large parts of Asia were under foreign rule or dealing with wars, famines, and political upheaval that made long‑term scientific development extremely difficult.Once those barriers were removed, Asian countries started producing major innovations at a rapid pace: Japan’s electronics and automotive industries, South Korea’s tech giants, China’s advances in manufacturing, AI, and infrastructure, India’s contributions to software and mathematics, and so on. Modern invention is global, not owned by any one group.Saying “Asians are good at tests but whites invent everything” just doesn’t match reality. Test performance doesn’t define a culture’s creativity, and invention isn’t a racial trait, it’s the result of historical conditions, investment, and opportunity. When those conditions exist, every region of the world produces groundbreaking ideas.
>>540493177>relentlessly demonized for being the creators of the modern worldTrue.See "The Geopolitical and Legal History of White Warfare Against Enslavement" https://write.as/mwq381bw4r7ms.mdARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT against Chief Justice Roberts https://write.as/q1jc2dzd56xhp.mdDraft Petition for ReHearing in Trump v. Barbara https://write.as/edit/6j8azq11mfs94https://www.civitasoutlook.com/research/the-constitution-birthright-citizenship-and-a-self-governing-republic?124c3630_page=1
>>540499073>Meanwhile, large parts of Asia were under foreign rule or dealing with wars, famines, and political upheaval that made long‑term scientific development extremely difficult.What about the prior 5000 years? Were they also colonized by Europeans?
>>540495287No one seethes against Asians (lets be honest, the average white person really like Asians) and Asians are vastly more discriminated against in lucrative fields by DEI admission policies than whites. It's been that way since the early 2000's. You're more likely to find that a doctor in the US who's Asian is a migrant than domestically educated as a result.
>>540499073>India’s contributions to softwareAnd I can't take you seriously.
>>540497749I remember during ISIS' peak there were articles and a book that focused on the education of terrorists, many turned out to be engineers. Most of them were suicide bombers and educated in the Middle East, who knows what their education actually entailed. There are others who made bombs and weren't engineers or educated.
>>540492354This is also why so many Asians are legally blind.Lack of natural sunlight during formative years cause the eye to grow incorrectly.If you are Asian and have to wear glasses, it is your parent's fault.
>>540492078>poorer, less educated familiesHAHAHA. when I was in school the Asian kids would always get picked up in a brand new Mercedes.
>>540495287>and seethe about Asians on the internet.Asians are too short to seethe about.
>>540499272The “prior 5000 years” weren’t some kind of equal playing field either. Different regions had completely different environments, resources, population densities, trade networks, and political structures. Europe didn’t dominate world invention for most of human history, instead it lagged behind several Asian civilizations for long stretches.China invented paper, printing, gunpowder, the compass, advanced metallurgy, large‑scale bureaucracy, and agricultural systems that Europe didn’t match for centuries. India developed major mathematical concepts like zero, the decimal system, and early forms of algebra and trigonometry. The Middle East (also part of Asia) produced foundational work in astronomy, medicine, algebra, and preserved Greek knowledge that Europe later relied on. Japan had sophisticated metallurgy, engineering, and social organization long before industrial Europe existed.So the idea that Asia was just sitting still for 5000 years isn’t accurate. Civilizations rise and fall depending on geography, climate, trade routes, disease patterns, political stability, and resource distribution, and not racial traits. Europe’s global dominance is actually a relatively recent phenomenon, mostly from the last three to four hundred years, and heavily tied to colonial expansion, access to global resources, and the industrial revolution.They weren’t colonized by Europeans 5000 years ago, but they also weren’t living under the same conditions. Different regions had different advantages at different times, and Asia has a long record of major innovations that shaped the world. The modern era just shifted the balance because of historical events, not because one group is inherently more inventive than another.
>>540492078Daily ricecel nerd rage. We don't give af about math olympiads and it's not us moving to asian countries
>>540499354I guess it depends on what you consider a big accomplishment. Bomb+drone was probably figured out by a lot of people at the same time. But the average IQ Asian with parents who didnt just shrug when they struggled a little bit in school when the dumbass teacher couldn't explain basic math to them? You dont need an exceptional IQ to be an engineer. It didnt take a 140 IQ to figure out drone warfare. If a bunch of 105 IQ Asian with engineering credentials work together they can make some crazy shit probably.
>>540499348If you can’t take India’s software contributions seriously, you might want to look at the actual global tech landscape. A huge portion of modern programming, IT infrastructure, cybersecurity, and backend development is done by Indian engineers or teams based in India. Major companies like Microsoft, Google, IBM, Oracle, and Amazon rely heavily on Indian developers, and India’s own tech sector is one of the largest in the world. You don’t have to like it, but pretending it doesn’t exist isn’t a serious argument.
Btw elons sock puppet account posted this to not look rayciss, classic goylon
>>540499501>and preserved Greek knowledge that Europe later relied on.Which is a retarded way to phrase destroyed the Byzantium Empire. >Hey look, we might have stolen all of this from the Christian world but look at all the shit we kept!
>>540492078A black retard who couldn’t read until he was 18 became a Cambridge professor, can any asian beat that
>>540495559No it's basically correct. The gene randomisation mechanism when high IQ parents have children, forces average closer to the mean.To increase IQ, you have to generally exclude the low end from the gene pool, consistently over many generations.To solve The Africa Problem for example, we would have to send large numbers of horny male university graduates to Africa for many generations to impregnate the women there.
>>540499501The middle east has nothing to do with chinks lmao
>>540495939>>540496103Holy cute
>>540499665That’s not actually what preserved Greek knowledge refers to. The Byzantine Empire wasn’t destroyed by the Islamic world preserving Greek texts. It fell in 1453 to the Ottomans, a completely different historical event that happened over a thousand years after the early translation movement. The preservation I’m talking about happened much earlier, during the Abbasid period, when scholars in places like Baghdad translated Greek works on mathematics, astronomy, medicine, and philosophy. This wasn’t stealing from the Christian world, it was part of a broader intellectual exchange that included Syriac Christian scholars, Jewish scholars, and Muslim scholars working together. Europe later rediscovered a lot of this material through Spain and Sicily, which helped kick‑start parts of the Renaissance.So the point isn’t “look at all the stuff they kept,” it’s that knowledge moves between civilizations, and different regions have acted as custodians at different times. Asia, the Middle East, and Europe all built on each other’s work. No single group has a monopoly on invention or preservation. History is a long chain of people passing ideas forward.
>>540499559>A huge portion of modern programming, IT infrastructure, cybersecurity, and backend development is done by Indian engineersAnd they're empirically fucking horrible at it.
>What happened?Shoah'ing of the Jim Crowe segregation laws, followed by (((integration))) at gunpoint.
>>540492078intelligence is extremely heritable. It is very easy to selectively breed humans into super intelligent people in a couple generations.
>>540499880>That’s not actually what preserved Greek knowledge refers to.Nigger, Byzantium spread all the way to Baghdad. Yes them losing all their cities and famous libraries in the Middle East and Africa is literally what it refers to.
>>540499559All those companies become scummier and scummier.Is that the 'Indian contribution' you're talking about?
>>540492078Those Asians are smart enough to understand the effects of different standard deviations in IQ. Besides I don't have to believe my family is superior to prioritise them . "Whits are superior" narrative is anti White racism.
>>540500002And don't forget Boeing's nose diving history. Their software failed their own testing conditions.
>>540492078Name some Asian inventions? Innovations? Accomplishments? In the real world, of course.
>>540500265Methamphetamine.
>>540500015Creativity or standard deviation difference is a myth (maybe not creativity but no good way to measure it)Richard Lynn's 105 iq estimate is just bullshit and so is everything that derives from his work e.g. kierkegaard, mankind quarterly.
>>540492196Damn bro, just like the black man. We wuz brothas n' sheit
>>540500283The real pill is that richard lynn invented creativity difference or wider std dev to explain why asians don't have more cultural more scientific achievements despite having more than 2x the population with supposedly giga iq.
>>540499908If you’re saying India is “horrible at it,” the evidence doesn’t really support that. India has one of the largest engineering and software workforces in the world, and its tech sector is a major part of global infrastructure. A huge amount of backend development, cybersecurity, cloud services, and enterprise software used by Western companies is built or maintained by Indian teams. That doesn’t mean India is perfect or that everything it produces is world‑class, but pretending the country contributes nothing is just ignoring reality. Capability isn’t determined by stereotypes, it’s determined by output, and India’s output in tech is massive whether people like it or not.>>540500000You’re mixing two totally different eras. The preservation of Greek knowledge happened during the Abbasid Caliphate (roughly the 8th–12th centuries), long before Byzantium fell in 1453. Baghdad wasn’t a conquered Byzantine city at that time. It was a major scholarly center where Greek works were translated into Syriac and Arabic by Christian, Jewish, and Muslim scholars working together. That process wasn’t about destroying Byzantium.The later Ottoman conquest of Byzantine territory happened centuries after the translation movement, and by then the Greek scientific and philosophical texts had already been preserved, expanded on, and reintroduced to Europe through Spain, Sicily, and eventually Renaissance scholars.So when historians say the Islamic world “preserved Greek knowledge,” they’re talking about that early intellectual tradition, not the political collapse of Byzantium. Knowledge moves between civilizations, and each played a role in keeping it alive.Also, witnessed.
>>540499696That dude had a dozen major lies, from being mute until 18 to being a football star at OU to running 30 marathons in 30 days, and they didn't catch a single one of them until after he was hired.
>>540493197>ebonicsJamboy detected
>>540500283The idea that standard deviation would be identical in different populations is an assumption based on the ideology that all races are equal. You're here arguing that Asians are superior except when you need them to be equal ( standard deviation) .Ideologically motivated reasoning.
>>540500437>the evidence doesn’t really support that.95% of Indian tech graduates never enter employment in their educational field. It's empirical, they do not produce good engineers. Just lots of them.
>>540494584Your whole personally is built around hating white guys cause you’re jello
>>540500592That statistic doesn’t prove they’re “bad engineers”; it mostly reflects the structure of India’s education system and job market. India produces an enormous number of engineering graduates, far more than its domestic industry can absorb, so a lot of people end up in unrelated fields. Oversupply isn’t the same thing as lack of ability.When you look at actual performance in global companies, Indian engineers are heavily represented in software, backend systems, cybersecurity, data engineering, and IT infrastructure. They’re not all elite, but no country’s engineers are, the U.S., China, and Europe also produce plenty of graduates who never work in their field.The relevant metric isn’t “how many graduates get engineering jobs inside India,” it’s “how much engineering output the country contributes globally.” And on that front, India is a major player. Quantity doesn’t automatically mean low quality; it means the domestic market can’t absorb everyone. The engineers who do make it into the field are clearly capable, or global tech wouldn’t rely on them as heavily as it does.
>>540500437>You’re mixing two totally different eras. The preservation of Greek knowledge happened during the Abbasid Caliphate (roughly the 8th–12th centuries), long before Byzantium fell in 1453The 8th to the 12th centuries was them conquering, enslaving and stealing all of the Byzantines knowledge and people, you fucking retard. No shit Constantinople limped on until the 15th century, sans all their shit the Muslims stole and acted like 'preserving' it was a grandiose gift to humanity. The Greek knowledge was already preserved, it's why it was in Greek because it's what the Byzantines spoke.
>>540493197Most Asians live in high Asian areas and go to school with largly Asian student bodies meanwhile they bus niggers into most white areas the whole system is designed to prop up niggers
>>540500700>That statistic doesn’t prove they’re “bad engineers"https://gadgetsnow.indiatimes.com/jobs/95-engineers-in-india-unfit-for-software-development-jobs-claims-report/articleshow/58278224.cmsA 95% failure rate. That's failure.
>>540500749You’re still merging two separate historical processes into one. The Abbasid translation movement wasn’t the result of conquering Constantinople or looting Byzantine libraries, that didn’t happen in the 8th–12th centuries. Baghdad wasn’t a captured Byzantine city; it was founded by the Abbasids themselves and became a major scholarly center where Greek works were translated by Syriac Christian, Jewish, and Muslim scholars. This was an intellectual project, not the aftermath of sacking Byzantine territory.The later Ottoman expansion into Byzantine lands happened centuries afterward, and by that point the translation and preservation of Greek scientific and philosophical texts had already taken place. Europe re‑encountered much of that material through Islamic Spain, Sicily, and eventually Renaissance scholars, long before Constantinople fell.Saying “the Greek knowledge was already preserved because Byzantines spoke Greek” misses the point. The issue wasn’t whether Greek existed; it was about which civilizations actively translated, studied, commented on, and expanded those works during periods when Europe wasn’t doing much of that. Byzantium preserved Greek texts, the Islamic world preserved and expanded them, and Europe later built on both. That’s how intellectual history actually unfolded.
>>540500552The main point is that asian 105 iq is wrong, derived from a handful of pseudoscientists like lynn and endlessly repeated till the bullshit became accepted by the mainstream
>>540492354Is that why they kick them out of the house the moment they turn 18 or force them to pay rent?
>>540494584We aren't moving to uganda
>>540492078are american Asians and american "Whites" IQ differences partly explained by selection bias in Asian immigrants lifting the score and miscegenation of US Whites lowering their average score ? Mixed race can self identify as White . What does that do to White score ?
>>540500793That report isn’t saying “Indians can’t engineer.” It’s saying India’s engineering education pipeline is extremely uneven. India produces far more engineering graduates than its domestic tech industry can realistically absorb, and a huge portion of those graduates come from low‑quality private colleges that rely on rote learning instead of actual programming practice. When you enroll millions of students in thousands of colleges with wildly different standards, of course most won’t be job ready.The article itself makes this clear: the problem is poor teaching, rote learning, and the fact that top programmers get hired into industry instead of becoming instructors. It also shows a massive gap between tier‑1 colleges and tier‑3 colleges, meaning the top slice of talent is strong, while the bottom is extremely weak.That’s not unique to India. The U.S., China, and Europe also produce huge numbers of engineering grads who never work in engineering. Oversupply and uneven training don’t equal “bad engineers.” They mean the system produces too many graduates and not enough quality instruction.The engineers who do make it through the top programs are clearly capable, global tech companies wouldn’t rely so heavily on Indian engineers if they weren’t. The statistic reflects the education system’s scale and inconsistency, not the inherent ability of Indian engineers.
>>540493602Most asians don't vote and aren't political since they're in solid blue states.
>>540500829>You’re still merging two separate historical processes into oneNo I'm not. You're inconceivably retarded if you can't see the link between the fall of Byzantine lands to Islam and the loss of Greek knowledge in the Christian world. Also the end to the library of Alexandria was when Caliph Umar had the books burnt to warm the public bath's water.
>>540500950>That report isn’t saying “Indians can’t engineer."Yes it is. They're fucking terrible at, only a superminority of them can engineer.
>>540499559And all of those companies produce garbage
>>540501027You’re still combining events that happened centuries apart. The Abbasid translation movement began in the 8th century, when Byzantium was still intact and nowhere near losing its core territories. Baghdad wasn’t a conquered Byzantine city, it was founded by the Abbasids and became a major scholarly center where Greek works were translated into Syriac and Arabic by Christian, Jewish, and Muslim scholars. That process wasn’t the result of sacking Byzantine lands; it was an organized intellectual project that happened while Byzantium continued to exist.The later loss of Byzantine territory to various Islamic powers happened gradually over hundreds of years, and the final fall of Constantinople in 1453 was an Ottoman event, not an Abbasid one. By the time the Ottomans took Byzantine lands, the Greek scientific and philosophical corpus had already been translated, studied, and circulated back into Europe through Spain, Sicily, and eventually Renaissance scholars. So when historians talk about the Islamic world “preserving Greek knowledge,” they’re referring to that earlier scholarly tradition, not the political collapse of Byzantium centuries later.As for the Library of Alexandria: the story about Caliph Umar ordering its destruction is widely regarded by modern historians as a medieval legend. The library had already declined long before the Islamic conquest of Egypt, and there’s no reliable contemporary evidence for a dramatic burning. It’s a popular story because it’s dramatic, not because it’s historically solid.The broader point is that intellectual history isn’t a single chain of theft or destruction. Byzantium preserved Greek learning for centuries, the Islamic world preserved and expanded it during its own intellectual peak, and Europe later built on both. Civilizations pass knowledge forward, and these exchanges happened over long periods, not through one simple cause‑and‑effect event.
>>540501068Saying “they’re terrible at it” doesn’t follow from the data. The report shows that India’s engineering education pipeline is extremely uneven, millions of students, thousands of colleges, and huge variation in quality. When you have massive enrollment and a lot of low‑tier schools, most graduates won’t be job‑ready. That’s a training problem, not an inherent ability problem.The top slice of Indian engineers (the ones who come from strong programs and actually enter the field) are clearly capable, or global tech companies wouldn’t rely on them so heavily. A weak average caused by oversupply doesn’t mean the entire country “can’t engineer.” It means the system produces too many graduates and not enough quality instruction.
>>540501120Just look at Windows 11, beginning of this year they put AI into notepad exposing a security flaw that allowed remote access of system administrator level access. In fucking notepad.
>>540492078>>540492134Desegregation Whites going to school with negros lowered the White IQ by 30 points
>>540501242>You’re still combining events that happened centuries apart.You are actually retarded if you can't understand that losing that territory and knowledge (and more importantly your scholars) in the 8th to 12th century as Muslims occupy your cities is why it got lost. It's not an RTS, once you upgrade a research it doesn't persist indefinitely.
>>540492078Education is critically valued in East Asian culture. If your parents are immigrants they will almost certainly have the mindset of, "we traveled across the world to provide you a better life, now it is your duty to get exceptional grades." It's astonishing to see the parents of white kids praise their kids as long as they pass with a C or B. If you bring a B home to an Asian immigrant household, you will receive an ass beating. If you bring home a C, you will receive an entire week of ass beating. A D or less is incomprehensible and basically not possible without homicide. To Asian immigrant parents, 100% is the passing grade. Anything less than that means you fucked up. Also, the idea of going to university is deeply ingrained in Asian kids' minds from an early age. This is just a baseline expectation, just as expected as the idea that the kid will one day become 18.If you're white or black you might think I'm being hyperbolic but this is legitimately the standard way that Asian immigrants raise their kids.
>>540501120>>540501270Calling all those companies “garbage” doesn’t really address the point. Every major tech company ships flawed products that’s the nature of massive, complex software ecosystems. A single vulnerability in Notepad, or any other product, isn’t evidence that an entire national engineering workforce is incompetent. It’s evidence that big companies sometimes make bad design decisions or miss something in review.If product flaws proved a country’s engineers were universally bad, then every nation’s engineers would be disqualified because every major tech company in every country has shipped serious bugs. Yet these same companies continue to rely heavily on Indian engineers for backend systems, cloud infrastructure, data engineering, and large‑scale software maintenance.Individual mistakes don’t invalidate the broader reality: India supplies a huge portion of global software talent, and the engineers who rise to the top of that system clearly perform well enough to run major divisions at Microsoft, Google, IBM, Adobe, and others.
>>540501269>doesn’t follow from the data.It literally does. 95% are not competent enough to find employment.
>>540501269>not an inherent ability problem.Average IQ 85.The way you cope is by fucking like rabbits and destroying your own environment with low IQ tards.You need less of them, not more.
>>540501425>A single vulnerability in Notepad, or any other productCritical, a critical vulnerability.
>>540492078The left considers Asian white in all but name.
>>540501445“95% aren’t competent enough to find employment” isn’t what the data actually says. It says 95% of graduates aren’t job ready for software development specifically, which reflects uneven training and oversupply, not inherent inability. When millions enter engineering programs and many colleges teach poorly, most grads won’t be ready for industry. The top slice still performs at a global level that’s why they’re hired internationally.>>540501472IQ claims about entire national or ethnic groups aren’t reliable science. They’re based on selective sampling, outdated tests, and environmental factors like nutrition, schooling quality, and poverty. None of that translates into “inherent ability.” And population size doesn’t determine competence, countries with large populations produce both weak and strong performers. The engineers who rise to the top in India clearly demonstrate high capability, or global tech wouldn’t rely on them.>>540501476A critical vulnerability is still just a vulnerability every major tech company has shipped them. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, Oracle, all have had critical security flaws at some point. That’s the reality of massive software ecosystems, not proof that one country’s engineers are uniquely incompetent. A single bug in Notepad doesn’t outweigh the fact that these companies continue to trust Indian engineers with core infrastructure and high‑impact systems.
>>540501647>Goes back on everything his fellow Indians say on here ad nauseamWhat happened to "CEO" and "110 IQ"?
>>540492078Asians have a grind culture. All they do is study for multiple-choice tests and grub for grades. Few of them have any life skills and they're usually pretty boring to talk to.
>>540501647>It says 95% of graduates aren’t job ready for software development specifically,That's competency you retard.
>>540501764Here's a fun fact, the numbers are inverted for the US. 94% of software graduates enter employment in the tech field.
>>540501764“CEO” and “110 IQ” were never arguments about average ability, they were examples of the top end of India’s engineering and tech talent. Every country has a distribution: most people are average, some are exceptional, and a small number reach global leadership roles. Pointing to Indian CEOs at major tech companies isn’t claiming every Indian engineer is elite; it’s showing that the system clearly produces high‑performing individuals despite uneven education quality. The existence of top performers contradicts the idea that the entire population is inherently incapable.>>540501790Being “not job‑ready for software development” is not the same as “inherently incompetent.” It means the training they received wasn’t good enough for industry standards. India has millions of engineering students and thousands of colleges, many of which rely on rote learning and outdated curricula. When the pipeline is that huge and inconsistent, most graduates won’t meet professional expectations. That’s a structural problem, not a biological one. The engineers who do make it through strong programs clearly perform well, global tech wouldn’t keep hiring them otherwise.
>>540493364This. There was always an Asian suicide every semester at my college. Seen several have complete nervous breakdowns, too.
>>540501906>Being “not job‑ready for software development” is not the same as “inherently incompetentAs a graduate? No it is you fucking retard.
>>540500950You are confusing real engineering degrees with real licenses like chemical, materials, mechanical, electrical etc., with bullshit programming junk stringing a bunch of libraries together. There is no such thing as software engineering it's a made up term that requires no credentials Indian actual engineers are garbage too as the whole education system there is corrupt unless you get into some elite school because your father is rich
>>540501938Graduating doesn’t magically make someone competent, it just means they completed a curriculum. If the curriculum is weak, outdated, or taught poorly, then graduates won’t be job‑ready. That’s exactly what the report describes: rote learning, lack of real programming practice, huge variation between colleges, and a massive oversupply of students. None of that speaks to inherent ability; it speaks to the quality of instruction.Plenty of countries have graduates who aren’t prepared for industry work right out of school. The difference is scale: India has millions of engineering students, so the gap between top‑tier and bottom‑tier colleges is enormous. The top slice still performs at a global level, which is why they get hired internationally and run major divisions at major tech companies. The statistic reflects training quality, not biological competence.
>>540493633>They have a chink grad student come and personally teach them all the shit the school left outCan confirm. But that does mean that they study more. That's pretty much all they do.
>>540501647>IQ claims about entire national or ethnic groups aren’t reliable scienceBullshit they aren't, they are reproducible and predictive models. You're never going to get perfect experimental control using statistical data but to pretend that creating predictive models of natural phenomena isn't the proper application of the scientific method is just faggy libtard moralizing or deliberate obfuscation of the facts for the sake of politics. But that's just a roundabout way of calling you a Canuck.If anything a huge sample set with massive variance allows you to model and account for numerous potential influences and with a large enough data set model how all those influences interact to create a phenotype, ie what happens when the genotype interacts with its environment and is ultimately placed under selective pressure. >companies continue to trust Indian engineersPssh, alright I take it back you aren't a Canuck, because Poojeets cannot be Canadian anymore than they can be American. They don't "trust" shit, even other Jeets don't "trust" jeets. The case of libtards and jews they use them as a catspaw against whites. In the case of inter-jeet behavior its just izzat.
>>540502001>Software engineering vs. “real engineering” You’re drawing a false distinction. Software engineering is a formal discipline with accredited programs, standards, methodologies, and professional bodies, just like mechanical or electrical engineering. Plenty of countries require licensing for certain software roles (medical devices, aviation, defense). The fact that some programming jobs don’t require a license doesn’t make the field “fake”; it just reflects how fast the industry grew compared to traditional engineering.>“Indian actual engineers are garbage too” That claim doesn’t hold up. India’s engineering education system is uneven thousands of colleges, many low‑quality, some elite. That’s exactly why the bottom end performs poorly and the top end performs extremely well. The existence of corruption or weak colleges doesn’t mean the entire country produces bad engineers; it means the system produces a wide range of outcomes. The top tier consistently produces engineers who work at global firms, lead major divisions, and contribute to high‑impact projects.If the whole system were “garbage,” global tech companies wouldn’t keep hiring Indian engineers for critical infrastructure, backend systems, cloud architecture, and research roles. The weak colleges drag down the average; they don’t define the capability of the people who rise to the top.
>>540502017>Graduating doesn’t magically make someone competentAn insight into the Indian mindset.Of course you have to be industry competent to graduate. 95% of American tech graduates find employment in their field. 5% of Indians do.
>>54050084818 is the moment the asian mom makes a final decision on if the kid was a failure or not.
>>540502105You’re treating population‑level IQ claims as settled science when they’re not. Large‑scale IQ comparisons across nations are heavily influenced by environmental factors, nutrition, schooling quality, test familiarity, language, socioeconomic conditions, and researchers consistently warn against using them to make biological claims about entire ethnic groups. Predictive models can be useful, but they don’t justify turning complex environmental data into blanket statements about inherent worth or capability.Your argument about “huge sample sets” actually supports the point: if environmental variance is massive, then the results reflect that variance, not fixed genetic traits. That’s why developmental improvements, better schooling, better nutrition, reduced poverty, reliably raise measured IQ across populations. If it were purely genetic, those changes wouldn’t matter.As for “trust,” companies hire engineers because they perform well in interviews, deliver results, and fit the needs of large global teams. Multinational corporations aren’t selecting people based on ethnic loyalty or “izzat”; they’re selecting based on output. The fact that Indian engineers occupy senior roles across major tech firms contradicts the idea that they’re only used as pawns. Performance determines hiring, not the political narratives you’re projecting onto it.
>>540492078>What Asia values and aspires toConfucian scholar official able to recite the classics from memory>What America values and aspires toBall players and financial scam artists
>>540501418And yet when the rubber meets the road interferent abilities matter more. Hence why whites dominate the STEM fields, particularly in private or self employment. I've never once met a competent Asian geologist, statistically they must exist but I've never met them. I've met thousands of competent white geologist. I've never met a shitskin geologist in person and suspect the Saudi names on papers are paid for.Asians are all about social status and face while in the US STEM degree holders are predominately whites with a rural background and thus are often mercenary in their employment if not anti-social. They often don't network at all and rely on their base competency to make their daily bread.
>>540502133You’re assuming that “graduation = industry competence,” but that’s simply not how engineering education works anywhere. A degree certifies that you completed the academic requirements of a curriculum, not that you’re immediately ready for professional work. That’s why companies use technical interviews, internships, coding tests, and probation periods. If graduation alone guaranteed competence, none of those would exist.The comparison you’re making between American and Indian employment rates also ignores scale and structure. The U.S. produces a relatively small number of engineering graduates from a smaller, more uniform set of institutions. India produces millions of engineering graduates from thousands of colleges with wildly different standards. When the pipeline is that large and uneven, the percentage of job‑ready graduates drops, not because the students are inherently incapable, but because the training quality varies massively.The report itself explains this: rote learning, lack of hands‑on programming, outdated curricula, and huge differences between tier‑1 and tier‑3 colleges. That’s a structural education problem, not a biological one. The top‑tier graduates still perform at a global level, which is why they’re hired internationally and lead major divisions at major tech companies.
>>540492078I work in a S&P500 company with basically 1/3rd Whites, 1/3rd Asians and 1/3rd Indians.Basically Asians are better on average but the brightest, most creative ones will always be the white nerds.Also keep in mind that the entire industry is tuned towards having non creative yes men doing whatever short term features prop the stonk up.This is perfect for Asians and Indians but completely antithetical to the White man's Faustian spirit.
You're all little babies when it comes to eugenics. Wish we won.
>>540492078>>Twitter Screenshot
>>540502292>You’re assuming that “graduation = industry competence,” butNo but. If you're not industry competent after tertiary education you are incompetent.
>>540492354And the results show. Asians are the most successful demographic in the US while whites spics and niggers are poor because they are lazy af.
>>540502303And the Indians?
>>540502359Saying “if you’re not industry‑competent after tertiary education you are incompetent” ignores how engineering education actually works. Universities teach theory, fundamentals, and broad problem‑solving skills. Industry competence comes from applied practice, internships, real projects, and on‑the‑job experience. That’s why companies everywhere use technical interviews, probation periods, and training programs because graduation alone doesn’t guarantee readiness.The report you’re citing explicitly blames uneven curricula, rote learning, and massive variation between colleges for India’s low job‑readiness rate. That’s a structural issue, not a biological one. If graduation automatically meant competence, then every country’s graduates would be equally prepared but they aren’t, because the quality of instruction differs.The top‑tier Indian engineering programs still produce globally competitive talent, which is why those graduates get hired internationally and lead major divisions at major tech companies. The statistic reflects uneven education quality, not inherent inability.
>>540502376Whites aren't poor in the US.
>>540502424>ignores how engineering education actually works.No, it is how it works. India sucks.
>>540502212>You’re treating population‑level IQ claims as settled science when they’re not.We've go 70 years of consistent data. I've had this same argument with faggots like you for a decade and my models remain predictive, though of course not perfect. > Multinational corporations aren’t selecting people based on ethnic loyalty or “izzat”>ethnic nepotism doesn't existSo we've just confirmed you are a jeet lying with an agenda, a jew lying with an agenda, or a naive retard incapable of drawing basic inferences from your own anecdotal experiences.I've been posting syntheses for nerve agents to this site since 2011 and I advocate the genocidal extermination of billions of worthless shitskins. It isn't my job to find every random mutant mudman who might be capable of calculus and uplift him into a white society. Much more efficient to kill billions and replace them with a population which posses a higher mean IQ or base G or whatever term you wish to apply. It's simply in my interest to do so and therefore I advocate for it.
>>540492078lack of discipline and organization
>>540492354Basically true. I grew up in an affluent suburb and went to public school. All the Asian kids had good grades but hated their lives.
>>540492078Whites never claimed to be the "master race". That was Jews.
>>540501784They are good with memorization. Creativity however, not so much. Their society as a whole sees anything not related to science or math as frivolous and not going to net you a high paying job. The ones raised in the West are more receptive to things that involve creativity. I have seen how they get around exam time. They will treat it as a matter of life and death and even have superstitions such as eating toffee before hand so knowledge will stick to them.
>>540502499You’re treating “70 years of consistent data” as if it resolves the core issue, but long‑term data sets don’t eliminate the environmental variables that researchers repeatedly highlight. IQ measurements across nations reflect nutrition, education quality, test familiarity, language, and socioeconomic conditions. When those conditions change, measured IQ changes. That alone shows the metric isn’t a fixed genetic indicator of group ability.Predictive models can be useful, but they’re only as good as the assumptions behind them. Using population averages to make biological claims about entire ethnic groups ignores the fact that individual variation within any group is far larger than the differences between groups. That’s why high‑performing engineers, scientists, and researchers emerge from every population, including the ones you claim are uniformly deficient.Your argument about “ethnic nepotism” doesn’t explain why multinational companies consistently promote Indian engineers into senior technical and leadership roles. These firms operate in competitive global markets; they hire and promote people who deliver results. If performance didn’t matter, those roles wouldn’t be filled by people who demonstrably succeed in them.The rest of your message isn’t an argument, it’s an expression of violent ideology. Advocating mass harm doesn’t strengthen your position; it just shows you’ve replaced evidence with dehumanization. None of that changes the basic point: population‑level IQ data is not a reliable basis for claiming inherent, fixed biological differences in capability, and it certainly doesn’t justify the conclusions you’re trying to draw from it.
>>540502123No there is no such thing as accredited programs for "software engineering" there is electrical engineers who recieve an official license by most countries to call themselves engineer just like an MD needs an official license to call himself a medical doctor and practice.A bacherlor of science or masters of science is not engineering. There is however algorithm engineering but it's always only taught to real engineering students like aerospace where you have to enforce standards and failure controls, basically the scientific method not taught in any generic compsci degree.
>>540492078Our multiple choice tests are not a challenge for people who have to memorize 3,000 letters in their alphabet.
>>540502627>no such thing as accredited programs for "software engineering"
>>540496094What's the percentage of national vs international Asian students in Harvard's case? Because if its mostly international Asian students(it is) its more an issue of forcing Chinks who were swamping the application programs to get the prestigious Harvard name on their degree to actually be exceptional especially given the rampant cheating that Chinks and Jeets engage in when taking the SATs and other tests for college admissions.
>>540502627You’re treating “real engineering” as synonymous with “fields that require licensure,” but that’s not how engineering disciplines are defined. Licensure is tied to public‑safety risk, not to whether a field is legitimate. Civil, mechanical, and electrical engineers often need licenses because their work can directly endanger lives. Software engineering only requires licensure in domains where failure has similar consequences, aviation, medical devices, nuclear systems, defense. Those roles do require certified software engineers, and the programs feeding them are accredited.Accreditation bodies like ABET in the U.S. explicitly accredit software engineering degrees. They evaluate curriculum, standards, safety practices, and engineering methodology. That’s the same process used for traditional engineering fields. The fact that many programming jobs don’t require a license doesn’t make the discipline “fake”; it reflects that most software doesn’t carry the same immediate physical‑risk profile as a bridge or turbine.As for Indian engineers, pointing out corruption or weak colleges doesn’t prove the entire system is bad. It proves the system is uneven. India has thousands of engineering schools, many low‑quality, but also elite institutions that consistently produce globally competitive engineers. Those graduates work in aerospace, semiconductor design, materials research, and other fields that absolutely require rigorous engineering training. Their success contradicts the claim that “actual engineers” from India are uniformly incompetent.The bottom tier drags down averages; it doesn’t define the capability of the top tier.
>>540502707They only keep data on Americans who 'fail' the application process, hence Asian Americans.
>>540492078>Aren't whites supposed to be a master race? What happened?Asians are study machines. They have no childhood, they have no soul, they work and work and work and work. While white kids are playing games Asians are studying, when they aren't studying they're doing some extracurricular that their parents chose for them at best they're playing a sport more likely they're slavishly playing an instrument they don't like.In the era of computers and AI the Asian is increasingly a redundant machine capable of calculation; but rarely capable of creativity.
>>540502450Compared to Asians they are. You don't think so because you normalized stupidity.
>>540492078because asians have higher IQ
>>540495031Asian-American women who grew up near ghettoes and had to deal with hostile blacks tend to be very racist. Some of those would probably vote Republican.
>>540492078>Aren't whites supposed to be a master race? What happened?easy ...capitalism happened. capitalism is why the education system is shit as fuck. and of course the shit education system is why you keep supporting capitalism, even though it's no good for you.
>>540502832Median networth of white American families in the US is $284,310
>>540501906Your brothers think they every one of them is in for a easy ride. Police your own if you want to be taken seriously.
>>540502784The “master race” framing is just bait nobody serious uses that language to describe actual demographic performance. What does matter is how different cultures structure childhood, education, and expectations. East Asian immigrant families often emphasize discipline and academic achievement, but that doesn’t mean Asian kids “have no soul” or “no childhood.” It means their parents prioritize stability and upward mobility in a new country. That’s a cultural strategy, not a biological destiny.The idea that Asians are “study machines” but not creative doesn’t hold up either. The same populations produce world‑class researchers, founders, artists, and engineers. Creativity isn’t tied to race; it’s tied to environment, incentives, and opportunity. When Asian students grow up in systems that reward test performance over experimentation, they lean toward test performance. When they enter environments that reward innovation, they innovate. That’s why you see Asian founders in AI, robotics, biotech, and gaming.Meanwhile, “white kids play games” is just as much a stereotype. Western education systems often emphasize exploration, autonomy, and self‑directed learning. That produces different strengths but neither approach is inherently superior. They’re just different cultural strategies for navigating modern economies.Calling Asians “redundant machines” in the era of AI misunderstands both AI and human capability. AI automates routine tasks; humans remain essential for design, abstraction, creativity, leadership, and judgment. The engineers building AI systems (including many Asian engineers) are not being replaced by the tools they create.The reality is simple: no group is a “master race,” no group is a “machine race,” and no group is inherently creative or uncreative. Cultures shape behavior; environments shape outcomes; individuals vary enormously. The stereotypes don’t explain anything meaningful.
>>540502971they=that
>>540502879>Some of those would probably vote Republican.You don't understand a minority mindset. They'll never vote outside what they perceive to be their racial interests. Regardless of which other minority groups its purports to push.
>>540500437So where is the native infrastructure? Where are the novel inventions created by stand-alone domestic developers? Your entire area of ‘expertise’ can be boiled down to the manipulation of foreign systems of information.
>>540492078and then you remember asian women want HAPA kids and will literally kill to get their BWC stuffed into their tiny fuckhole
>>540502971“Police your own” is just a way of shifting responsibility for someone else’s behavior onto an entire group. People don’t act as a collective hive mind, and no community is defined by its loudest or worst members. Every large population (whether national, ethnic, or professional) has people who behave well and people who behave badly. Holding millions accountable for the actions of a few isn’t a serious argument; it’s just a rhetorical shortcut.If someone is making low‑effort, hostile posts, that reflects them, not an entire demographic. The quality of an argument depends on the individual making it, not on their background. You don’t earn or lose credibility because of what strangers who share your ancestry say online. You earn it by the strength of your own reasoning.
>>540503009You’re treating “native infrastructure” as if a country’s tech capability only counts when every component is invented domestically. No modern nation works that way. The U.S., China, Europe, and India all build on shared standards, open‑source tools, global research, and international supply chains. What matters is contribution and scale, not isolation.India’s engineers build and maintain critical systems for finance, logistics, telecom, cloud services, enterprise software, and cybersecurity. These aren’t trivial tasks or simple “manipulations” of foreign tools. They’re core parts of global infrastructure that companies depend on every day. If the work were shallow, firms wouldn’t trust Indian teams with high‑stakes backend systems.As for innovation, not all invention is consumer‑facing. A huge amount of progress happens in infrastructure, optimization, and large‑scale integration. India’s domestic tech sector has produced original systems like UPI and Aadhaar, which outperform what many Western countries use. Innovation isn’t limited to flashy products; it includes the architecture that keeps entire economies running.No country builds everything alone. Capability is measured by output, reliability, and impact, and India’s footprint in global tech is too large to dismiss.
>>540502917Do you know how low that is? My net worth is around 7M. 280k net worth I had that in my mid 20s.Long term investing is the key. Whites want experiences without any planning for the future. Ask them how the market is doing and they'll give you a blank look. Eugenics.
>>540495313Yep. All asians are good at are passing tests. They are very good automatons. Wake us when those tests equate to some kind of success.
>>540503204>Do you know how low that isIt's objectively not low and you're retarded if you can't comprehend 7M isn't a normal networth. Here's another fact, of the top 10% of wealth holders in the US, 79% of them are white.
i wish i was white
>>540503285Saying “all Asians are only good at passing tests” ignores how success actually works. Test performance is one metric, but the same populations produce researchers, founders, engineers, artists, and scientists who succeed in fields where memorization alone isn’t enough. Creativity, leadership, and problem‑solving show up whenever the environment rewards them.And the idea that test scores don’t translate into success doesn’t match reality. Asian students and professionals are heavily represented in medicine, engineering, biotech, AI, and research precisely because those fields demand sustained competence, not just exam skills. If they were “automatons,” they wouldn’t be driving major parts of modern technology and scientific output.Stereotypes don’t explain real‑world outcomes. Individuals do.
>>540503420>ignores how success actually worksLike graduating and finding employment in your field of study.
>>540492078Chinks have no guilt reflex so they cheat
>>540503395Saying “i wish i was white” usually comes from feeling like who you are isn’t enough, or that life would somehow be easier if you were someone else. You don’t need to think that way. Your value isn’t tied to being white or any other group. You matter because of your personality, your experiences, your humor, your perspective things no one else can replicate.If you’ve been made to feel lesser, that’s not a flaw in you. That’s other people projecting their insecurity. You deserve to feel comfortable in your own skin and confident in who you are. You don’t need to trade your identity for someone else’s to be worthy or respected. You’re already enough as you are.
>>540502606If the data is reproduced again and again, including by parties who deliberately do everything they can to disprove the existence of the physiological phenomena known as "race", thereby violating scientific methodology from the outset and the data is still consistent that says something. If environmental variances have next to zero influence on IQ through time and space once heredity(ie race) is accounted for that says something. If the model is conistently predictive that says something. As is typical of the libtard you demand experimental control which is impossible to attain, especially when the existing political order directly opposes research into the issue. You refuse to simply implement policy based on the roughly predictive model you have, or rather you pretend to because you are an anti-racist faggot whose true objective is to prevent a white nationalist empire from coming into being and killing your and yours. It's an understandable goal given who you are, but you are still a disingenuous faggot for arguing in the manner you do.I'll give you a pertinent example, standardized scholiastic tests show that the scores of individuals of a given racial population correlate perfectly with the population they are derived from rather than their peers within a specific educational system. IE japs raised in America have scores which normalize with jap scores for example.> Advocating mass harm doesn’t strengthen your positionIt does when the opposition is being picked over by crows, faggot. Being intelligent doesn't mean you aren't violent it just means you apply violence as a tool to pursue your interests rather than ungabungaing around like a nigger.>dehumanizationIrrelevant, I don't value human life to begin with with. I believe that is an anti-western, anti-Chrsitan, anti-white, and anti-civilizational value and I don't cotton to it. Never have and never will. I don't have to dehumanize the opposition because I don't care to begin with.
>>540503567You keep repeating “the data is reproduced” as if that settles the question, but reproducibility doesn’t erase the core problem: the measurements you’re pointing to are shaped by environmental factors that remain uneven across populations. Long‑term consistency doesn’t magically convert environmental correlations into genetic causation. IQ shifts with nutrition, schooling quality, test familiarity, language, and socioeconomic conditions. When those change, scores change. That alone shows the metric isn’t a fixed hereditary constant.Your claim that environmental variance has “next to zero influence” isn’t supported by the actual literature. IQ gains from improved childhood conditions, education reforms, and poverty reduction are well‑documented. If heredity alone determined outcomes, those shifts wouldn’t occur. A predictive model built on population averages can be useful, but it doesn’t justify turning those averages into biological absolutes about entire groups. Individual variation within any population is far larger than the differences between populations.The example about Japanese students doesn’t prove what you think it does. Immigrant groups often maintain cultural patterns around education, discipline, and expectations. That’s not genetics; that’s upbringing. When those cultural factors change, outcomes change. You’re treating culture as if it were DNA.As for the violent rhetoric, it doesn’t strengthen your argument. It just makes it clear you’re not actually interested in evidence or methodology. Advocating mass harm isn’t a position; it’s an admission that you’ve replaced analysis with ideology. None of that changes the basic point: population‑level IQ data is not a reliable basis for claiming fixed biological hierarchies, and it certainly doesn’t justify the conclusions you’re trying to extract from it.
Everybody believes in IQ until they are shown to be lower IQ than someone else.
>>540500275Kekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSEqkDo2GIk
>>540503824There’s definitely some truth in what you’re saying. People can be inconsistent about IQ, or any metric, when it touches their ego. It’s human nature to treat a measurement as meaningful when it flatters us and dismiss it when it doesn’t. That’s not unique to any group; it’s just a universal psychological pattern.But that’s also why IQ needs to be kept in perspective. It’s one measure of certain cognitive abilities, not a full picture of intelligence or worth. When people get defensive about it, it usually reflects how much weight they’re placing on a single number rather than the broader reality of what makes someone capable or successful.So yes, hypocrisy exists, but it’s a reminder to treat IQ as a tool, not a verdict.
>>540503824IQ is a jewish myth used to attack the gentiles and support themselves.All humans are different and work better or worse in different ways. Should be easy to recognize if you're not an idiot.
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>>540492078>Abuse the shit out of bug children from birth forcing them to do nothing but take tests>They're better at taking tests than other kidsNO WAYNow let them win a fight with their SAT scores.
>>540504045they wont need to, the robots will do all the fighting
Across this entire thread, one theme kept repeating: people tried to turn complex human outcomes into simple biological hierarchies. But the evidence never actually supports that framing. IQ data, cultural patterns, educational systems, and global labor markets all show the same thing human capability is shaped by environment, opportunity, incentives, and individual variation far more than by the sweeping racial categories some people insist on treating as destiny.The arguments built on hostility and dehumanization weren’t really about evidence. They were about using a single metric to justify predetermined conclusions. Once violence and eliminationism enter the conversation, it stops being a debate about data and becomes an attempt to force ideology into the shape of science.What matters, and what’s worth taking from all of this, is that real analysis requires more than repeating a dataset. It requires understanding what the data can and cannot tell us, where its limits are, and how human societies actually function. Global engineering, scientific research, and technological development are driven by individuals with wildly different backgrounds who succeed because of training, discipline, creativity, and opportunity not because they belong to a particular category on a chart.If there’s any takeaway worth holding onto, it’s that human potential is too varied, too context‑dependent, and too individually expressed to be reduced to the kinds of claims that dominated the more extreme posts here. The world is complicated. People are complicated. And any serious attempt to understand capability has to start from that reality rather than from ideology.That’s all from me.
>>540502858>countries with tyrannical governments with an incentive to fake statistics are all high upHmm... really makes you think. If you think they IQ tested the endless hordes of illiterate goatfuckers in the desert and dog eating villagers in asia... mongolia 102? Kek. Mongolians don't even have a real language.
>>540504377unfortunately history disagrees with you or you wouldnt be speaking english right now.
>>540492246this is gelbsucht and they all have it. its the rice or so.
