Also RMS is not aware that Linux Kernel is an 100 percent commercial project now, and doesn't know that all hacker code from the 1990s has been removed and rewritten by commercial programmers, and it's all out of the hands of hackers.

He wants citations and proof.
Even though it was a process of over 25 years.
Google is censored so one cannot dig back and find all the gradual takeovers and statements, eventually mocking of hackers as crap programmers by the paid professional programmers that took their place.

>>540502137
As long as the Linux team doesn't alter the fact that it is covered by the GPL (I don't know if they legally could do that, and it would probably be unenforceable anyway) then those Russians and others who were banned can simply take the code and create their own fork of it. Problem solved.

HURD is coming along.

>>540502419
>HURD is coming along.
Another 40 years, right?

Anyway, there's also BSD and other shit. If Linux is going to shit then maybe its time to jump ship, but there certainly are alternatives out there.

>>540502137
Oh nooo not Le assfucker soldiers...nooooo..that's a scandal anale grande!

>>540502539
Haiku's got 3D now.

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Ban all Russians from breathing oxigen

>>540502402
Hackers are all banned too.
Why are no forks happening.
Rust does not run on anything but intel.]

So where are the forks?
Also you speak of "Linux Team"
That used to be hackers.
Now it is all commercial programmers.
That is NOT the same thing.

Don't pretend it is.
Linus betrayed every-fucking-one.
(for 12 million dollars per year).

However:
Linus doesn't do much if any work on Linux anymore.
Hackers are all booted out.
Only IBM, Microsoft, etc programmers are permitted to contribute to linux kernel today.

So what the fuck is there to "lose" with forking it?
Why can't the hacker community do it anymore?
What fucking happened?

Does the hacker community want to lose:
PaX
Grsecurity
Every architecture other than Intel
The C programming language?
???

After it did all that work in the 1990s and 2000s?
What the fuck is going on?
Why can't anyone communicate?

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>>540502573
>Oh nooo not Le assfucker soldiers...nooooo..that's a scandal anale grande!

>>540502573
> t. scat fetishist

>>540502539
Why do we have to jump ship.
Hackers used to be empowered to build their own shit. That's how all this free-software opensource stuff started. I saw it happen so don't claim otherwise. So why can't it be taken back?

Why the fuck can't hackers program anymore,
nor get together and communicate anymore?

Why does everything have to be slop and chum dumped in the water from upon high now?

>>540502653
>So where are the forks?
I'm not a developer so I can't make it happen. Ask the relevant people. Good question though I guess.

But anyway as I pointed out there is FreeBSD and the like. So unless those get taken over and fucked up then there's some other option out there.

>>540502859
Just use OpenBSD. It's so comfy.

>>540502653
I guarantee you the russians forked it but they keep it in russia

if you're so worried about it fork it yourself
but you can't, can you?
that's why it hasn't been done
its a lot of work for zero pay
>>540502859
because retards like you just complain about it because you don't even have the skills to do something about it
and people that have the skills are busy doing other things
stop complaining about what other people should be doing and just start doing it yourself

>>540502137
>>540502261
>>540502653
>>540502859
Nice . Nice thread anon, have a bump.

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lol

>>540502968
>the troll phenotype
it's scary how things just work out, synchronicity

>>540502859
>Why do we have to jump ship.
I'm guessing its probably because Mossad and/or the CIA (though same thing really) probably want to (and are) shoving backdoors and various nefarious shit into the Linux kernel just like what has been done to Micro$oft Winblows forever. That's why the hackers and Russians are being banned from the project, so they won't be able to see, obstruct, or expose these backdoors.

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>>540502653
>Does the hacker community want to lose:
>PaX
>Grsecurity
>Every architecture other than Intel
>The C programming language?
My guess the answer is jeets.
Jeets are lower iq and can't program, obviously can't program in C.

Retards. Attention!

Linus and corporate development means nothing if the kernel and packages remain open source.

Linux came from Unix, which came from Multics which came from DoD experiments. It is now in the public realm. Anyone can use the code and analyze it.

Linux is here to stay, whether or not Linus is a fag.

End of story. 2 more weeks.

the other main reason is that you're locked out by hardware vendors
anything you do will have to be linux adjacent just to use their drivers
big tech isn't going to support you with drivers
they are the ones that are taking the kernel over
and they're all run by jews
even stallman is a filthy jew

If Russia's government wasn't evil and tried to add malware to the Linux kernel, they'd be welcomed. Unfortunately, Russia hates the country Linux is from, Finland, and Putin has threatened to destroy Linus's society, town, and family with missile strikes, invasions and rape. Normal people don't tolerate this and Russians are banned from Linux.

of course Russia can also just fork Linux like North Korea did with Red Star OS, or make a BSD fork. Russia will not do either as any Russian competent enough to do so, leaves Russia.

This is what happens when you let fags get married and women in tech. This was their primary objective and it was obvious from miles away. This may be a dark day for computers and software, but at least we aren't racist bigot antihomo woman haters anymore. Can't make progress without breaking a few eggs.

>>540503096
>of course Russia can also just fork Linux like North Korea did with Red Star OS
To my knowledge, Red Star OS is just a distro. Not a fork of the kernel itself.

>>540502653
>Hackers are all banned too.
you can't "ban" a hacker, and the Linux GPL explicitly allows forking. Russia can copy the Linux Kernal and go make Russia OS, as North Korea has already done. I think Iran and China did it too.

>Hackers are all booted out.
Linux is not a "hacker" system so this doesn't concern me. Even if it was, that doesn't stop Arch Linux from existing. What's stopping a hacker from downloading Arch Linux and using it to do hacker things.

>>540503096
Russia saved Finland when US glowies tried to take over Nokia phones.
US glowies tried to get Nokia source code. Nokia said no.
so US gloies sent a "Microsoft Director" to Nokia , who forced Nokia to get rid of their secure mobile OS, and take a junk bugged MS OS.
After that Nokia nearly died, and US glowies got their access to their hardware and backdoors.
At that time Nokia was the largest company in Finland, and it nearly collapsed (and nearly collapsed Finland). Russia provides work for nokia programmers etc.

"Normal" people usually means american glowies.

>>540503158
It doesn't matter. If Linus were to somehow change the Linux GPL to ban Red Star OS, North Korea already has a copy of the Linux Kernel they use. And since nobody in the west uses Red Star OS, there's basically nothing the Linux Foundation could even do about it. The same for other distros like Hannah Montana Linux or Linux for Niggers, the latter of which Linus has publicly disowned and banned from their official repos, contribs and events.

I just don't see a problem here. And again even if there *was* a problem, it's more likely Arch would run into it first and Arch users would just tell Linus to fuck off as they've done in regards to the systemD debate. And, Linus has explicitly said he does not care because it's not his problem. Commercial development between Fedora and RHEL is.

>>540503096
What are you even on about schizo

>>540502706
Nafo troons seething

>>540503318
Nokia lost to the iphone, and Nokia lost to Linux too. Linus himself has told people not to use Nokia because it's proprietary garbage, it is easier to get Linux running on an Apple iphone than any Nokia phone.

your whining about Americans isn't relevant to the discussion, since Linus isn't a US citizen and doesn't care about US laws and never will

>>540502137
Cuckniks lost the goodwill of the Linux nerds when they tried to sneak in backdoors many times. At the end they did succeed by posing as chinks but the backdoor was still caught thanks to a German autist dev who was all about optimization and noticed weird spikes lmao

>>540503429
What you posting is Bullshit.
What I posted above is the truth.
Try to read it again.
>>540503318

>>540502137
Not a dev but on the way to it. For what I know it's a job that requires highly technical skills to do so and quite the time investment. So taking into account that in the west most of these people would be on some job that require their full attention and the few ones that make it for fun are entrapped into the tranny/fag cult (see Arch) it's not a surprise that these very own people would agree with banning the russian chuds for ideology sake.

>>540503347
Russia keeps inserting malware into anything they touch which is why Russian companies have been progressively banned from all western companies. Notably Boeing due to various engine technology thefts and Boeing Russia Design Center's involvement in the 737-MAX scandal. Russia just isn't trustworthy, which is why Russians are banned. Same for Communist Chinese and North Koreans.

But again, it litterally does not matter when Linus and the LF don't maintain forks, so anyone that wants to can just fork it and develop it for themselves. This is exactly what Steve Woz did with Unix to begin with, creating the Macintosh.

>>540502137
Did he ban Israelis?
If not, he's a faggot with no principles.

>>540503501
nobody uses nokitas anymore, it's a dead brand like blackberry. Partially because their OS is not unix-like, so unix-based programs for iOS, Android and Linux cannot run on it.

>>540502653
Rust runs on amd, arm, wtf schizo thread

>>540503318
>US glowies tried to get Nokia source code. Nokia said no.
Fool us once, shame on you
>so US gloies sent a "Microsoft Director" to Nokia , who forced Nokia to get rid of their secure mobile OS, and take a junk bugged MS OS.
Fool us twice, you can't fool us again

>>540502743
> t. scat fetishist
Yeah I know you are into that stuff. Quick Google search results are like 21 Brazil scat porn companies. Most famous *MFX*.
Haha you fucking favela niggers are like the number one shit porn producers. Dumb nigger.

>>540502137
bro I stopped contributing in 2.6.33
They regressed on my code then instead of owning it they doubled down and broke it for over a year.
I'm in Mac these days. I make tools with Claude that I have zero interest in giving away at any point. The internet got too easy to use. So easy the zero effort crowd flooded it. They ruined linux. They ruined open source. Now all the best shit is made by old hackers using AI because we know how to instruct it and they keep it local, to themselves, sometimes with friends.

>>540503565
Yea they do but so does the Equation Group, this isn't unique to them.

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>>540503635
You are BSing, and incorrect again.
Nokia exploded again in a cheap phones market .
their stock is up significantly.

>>540502137
>russian hackers are banned
oh noes, what do, there is absolutely no way to hide that you are a russian hacker in the internet

>>540502706
Somehow strange how you have such vids on your phone/PC. Dumb faggot, you just showed that you store this shit. Ugly. Just ugly. But typical for an American piece of tranny shit.

>>540504160
>cheap phones market
nobody uses cheap phones besides drug dealers, and the entire west will ban all dumbphones in 2030 when esims are mandated in all devices. Nokia is less than 1% of the phone market and it will get lower

just ask Linus, the topic of this thread. Linux is partially why nobody wants to use Nokia, because Nokia's OSes are not compatible with anything else.

>>540504086
and? The NSA and US government use Windows, and we already know Windows is fucked. You're just upset that everyone that isn't American has identified Russia as a threat.

>>540502653
>Hackers are all banned too.
Boy... .. Please tell your mommy you did it again... It's time you stop now.. For real..

>>540504495
Nah Russians are a threat but so are you guys, I just find it funny that you're blaming people for x while doing x yourself kek, it's just so incredibly jewish.

>>540502137
Aren't Ivans in firm belief that their side of the world is superior? Why would they need the rotten western operating systems and computers? Back behind their iron curtain they go, good luck

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>>540504160

My last "dumb phone" before jumping into the smartphone wagon was the Nokia 2730, it had coverage literally everywhere, one day it fell off my pocket when I was crossing the street and a huge ass bus full of passengers ran over it, it only scratched the plastic screen, the replacement part was dirt cheap and I replaced it myself using only a single torx screwdriver, and many other things that it happened to it and it worked just as good as ever until the end, I deeply regretted giving it away after getting a fucking Samsung Galaxy Young, from that point all my smartphones eventually break in the most retarded ways, get forcefully obsolete, lost or stolen.

>>540504644
The entire thread is about how Linus knows Russia is a threat and banned Russians from it. Your own government agrees and is why Russians are banned from contributing to swedish software projects too.

America doesn't matter. Everyone knows Windows is unsafe.

>>540503487
True, thinking about usuing a distro from Russia or China would make me paranoid

>>540504937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXMlmg2E9KU

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=new+nokia+phone

>>540504945
Tbf all tech is compromised one way or another and intelligence agencies from all over the world tend to know their vulnerabilities.

>>540504945
No.
Linus was broken by american glowies.
Now he's a faggot that tells every story that american glowies tell him to say.
And american glowies push "Russia bad".

>>540502137
that tells you glowniggers from cia and mi5 are the ones submitting code. with backdoors and other gay shit of course

>>540505378
Can you even trust anything not made by a single autist in his basement to not have any bullshitery from glowniggers or the like?

>>540505378
Remember when China and India got busted sneaking backdoors into Linux too? And how the Linux RNG was bugged for over a decade?

>>540502137
Every distro modifies the kernel for their own use you work on those not the main kernel.org
Here's one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre

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>>540506133
>Here's one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre
Not really all that "libre" in practice though, is it?

The Linux kernel is cooked by glownigger spooks. Some country (probably Russia) which exists outside the control of the glowniggers needs to fork the kernel and create a variant with all the Mossad backdoors stripped out.

>inb4 but then they'll just install FSB backdoors
Make sure the code is allowed to be audited so it can be seen this is not the case. Clearly it isn't with Linux nor this "libre" thing, so fuck that.

>>540502137
Russians are the biggest, most austistic nolife codeniggers out there.

>actually thinking the most famous and beloved DRM breakers in the world wouldn't keep a few USBs with Linux kernels around
>not thinking they just VPN to get everything and work from there without telling anybody

>>540502137
Just a quick look at that says there are bullshit claims so I won't read it in full.

>>540502419
Mass HURD adoption in two weeks.

Was this ment to pwn the russians:
not being allowed to work for free?

Was Putin angry that Russians couldn't work for no money anymore: how did he take it?
When did C code hackers get so gay that they ban others from contributing free code and maths?

>>540509865
>When did C code hackers get so gay that they ban others from contributing free code and maths?
They became jeets.

Russians were thrown out on their ass.

Linux recently removed alot of hardware support just this week. In the past hackers boasted about all the hardware linux supported.

Linux was started in Finland by the son of 2 communists that went to Moscow University.
Russians were coding for it from early on.

They were then given the boot.
How do the russians feel about this?

The politicization and destruction of Linux can always happen, because someone will just fork it off and release the source code.

There's already a commie fag OS called Anti-X. I'll take Mint/Peppermint or any Debian distro any time. So long as the source is open, you can always run an LLM or AGI in the future to find potential exploits. Act accordingly and compile your own then.

Fuck them. They want it so bad because Linux/Unix is the ultimate loose end that they can't tie up.

>>540503061
If it ment nothing you wouldn't be replying.

Linux did not come from Unix. Nor did it come from Multics. Nor did it come from the DoD.
So you are lying.

Linux came from Linus reading the Minix source code: which is not from unix and is not from multics, and is not from the DoD. It was an acedemic operating system written by a professor simply to teach operating system mechanics. It was compatible with some of the ways unix did things. But has no lineage through it.

Linus wrote his kernel for i386, after reading the Minix source code. The early file system for Linux was the minix file system. He then, in 1990, after having nothing left to steal from his professor (yes it was copyright infringement as he had access to the source code): published his code on some ftp site as FreaX (freaks). The FTP owner thought this was retarded and renamed the file Linux 0.01.
Linus then begged the Hacker community (Gnu people, bsd people, anyone) to help him because he couldn't think of anything more to code.
He changed the license to GPL to make them happy. After they asked for this via email.
He then recieved hacker code from 1990 to 2000 to 2005 to 2010 to 2015, to 2019; when he then implemented a Code of Conduct.

The hackers were ejected from the project effectivly, and all their code was rewritten or outright removed by paid IBM and Microsoft etc employees. Russians were then removed aswell: they had been involved from the very beginning when Linus was in finland.

At no point did Linux originate from Unix, BSD, the DoD, or Multics. It eventually ripped them off: just as it ripped off Andrew Tatenbaulm.
Why did it rip off these things? So it could run the GNU userland at that time and the X display server.

There you go.
History of FreaX.
And yes it matters that it has been taken out of the hands of the hackers.
It's a different thing now.

As for "do it yourself"
I have forked projects.
made projects from scrach.
However FreaX (Linux) started as a collaboration

>>540503061
>t. what is systemd
i appreciate your efforts for calm
but OPs post is not entirely without merit, either

>>540505276
>Linus was broken by american glowies.
How did they do it?

What did they do?

>Russian
They keep committing code they intend to exploit. Yeah you throw out some good code too, but its not worth the extra effort to deal with bad actors. Open source contributors aren't paid and code review takes a lot of their time. Especially with the flood of bullshit LLM have produced.
>No hackers
They're allowed. Hell a ton of googles android team are hackers that contribute regularly.
>Intel only
No arms supported and it works better than the shit windows is producing.
>Why more corporate
Linus is getting older and the project succeeded. A lot of business is dependent on it and it can no longer be a hobby project. They have business needs and that's not even a bad thing. It is finally getting the support it needs to actually run modern hardware. It will suck when Linus dies because I don't trust the corporations to manage it well, but their influence is needed if you want Linux to have feature parity to MacOS or windows.
>Oh no they're getting censored on reddit and gnome forums how ever will people figure out about the new fork
They'll have some curiosity and go to some less curated forums. It'd probably have a showcase in hacknews.