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Yeah, it's real and it already has a massive impact on earth. What should be done about it?
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Convince the vast majority to make poor decisions to shorten their life and in many cases outright end it???

lol ... the enlightened position
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>>540510427
import more browns
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>>540510427
Whatever it is, it needs to be affordable, or even just outright free, because people are going to resist all the expensive solutions until doomsday. Nobody's going to bankrupt themselves over this. Not while society is going to punish you for failing financially.
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>>540510592
Getting rid of coal, electrifying when you can, eating less meat... it's not the end of the world actually.
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Nothing we can do. We could probably kill a few fossil fuel barons to make ourselves feel better but the changes are done and irreversible. I live far enough north that I will stay comfortable for the rest of my life.
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>>540510427
>The world's best climate models are not capturing the true extent of Earth's energy imbalance, and scientists aren't sure why.
>Instead of mirroring real-life satellite observations, the models consistently underestimate a growing gap, or imbalance, between the amount of energy Earth receives from the sun and the amount the planet radiates into space, a new study shows.
>In 2023, the imbalance reached 1.8 watts per square meter (0.16 watts per square foot), which was twice what climate models estimated based on rising greenhouse gas emissions.
>Researchers have tried to explain this discrepancy by proposing that the simulations may not fully account for feedback processes, natural variability and declines in aerosol emissions.
>The simulations underestimated the amount of energy that Earth absorbed from the sun, particularly between 2010 and 2024, when satellite data shows that Earth's energy budget was completely out of whack.
https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/climate-change/earths-energy-imbalance-is-much-more-extreme-than-climate-models-show-but-scientists-arent-sure-why

theyve been so wrong, they still insist they are right about some things
while readjusting their models to fit reality again

objectively, yes, temps are up, but is CO2 at fault?
what if CO2 increase is just a side-effect of warmer temps?
what if our energy expenditure, regardless of pollution, is the actual culprit?

i agree with scientists, that something is going on
but i disagree with what scientists say is the reason
theyre just looking for easy answers (and are faggots, but i repeat myself)
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>>540510427
better give more money to liberal ngos
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Billions must die, unironically. If I had a genie that'd be the first wish. Evaporate the global south. Boom.
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>>540510750
>eating less meat

Fuck you, man! I'm putting my foot down with this one. I'm not some fucking bunny rabbit.
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it's fake
so was covid
and the hole in the ozone layer
and acid rain
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>>540510900
>liberal ngos
and then there's that conflict of interest
im sure they get money in back-channels from china, india and who else, in order for first-worlders to cripple themselves and their industry

ive read about 10 full papers now on climate change, as an amateur
a lot of those are a lot of bla-bla-bla, which doesnt mean the science is whack
but that the scientists are chasing clout and financing
and that the ACTUAL SCIENCE gets thrown under the bus, because of that
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>>540510427

NUKE INDIA AND TEL AVIV THANKS
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>>540510427
I worried about this since I was a little child. Ever since I heard about Global Warming at school, I made sure to leave the refrigerator door open whenever I could. I also turned on our AC to the max and let the cold air go outside, to cool the earth. What are YOU doing to help fight global warming?
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zoom out
>unironically
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>>540510427
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>>540511021
>it's fake
no, we've been recording the temperatures digitally (meaning no lazy humans involved in measurements) for about 40ish years now

its getting warmer, that is objectively true and real
its extreme this year, because of el nino

my point is, assume
>we give greenfaggots what they want
>planet still heats up
>???
>DEATH AND DECAY
and it feels like 99% of those scientists dont really care to admit when they dont know things
they just want to
>call it day
>it's co2, by humans
>now please fuck off
but thats not how science works
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>>540510427
>What should be done about it?
build more ai mega data centers
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>>540510427
Killing all chinese, indians, muslims, jews and africans?
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>>540510427
Burn more coal to increase the formation of low clouds that block thermal radiation from the Sun.
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>>540510427
>Yeah, it's real
Then we can't do anything about it. Because the people who are actually destroying the environment and causing all of this won't do anything.
All their "solutions" involve teaching children they're bad for littering and taking long showers. Gotta recycle or you're getting fined.
Nevermind all the factories pumping out smog and chemicals into the air and water.
Nevermind everything made of plastic, wrapped in plastic, and discarded in yet more plastic.
It's not real, but if it is, we'll pay for it instead of the people making money off it.
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>>540510427
didn't we pass the point of no return or whatever like 20 years ago? that means there's nothing that can be done so we might as well enjoy ourselves
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>>540510427
then why are the records for highs all set in the early 1900s? stupid graph faggot
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>>540510427

We are at the end of an ice age. The most common phases of earth are snowball earth and rainforest earth. We are in between phases which is why we have poles. It’s rare but unironically the most habitable period for humans which is why we’re here and at the top of the food chain.
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>>540510427
Destroy HAARP and global warming ends.
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>>540510427
Say elijah !
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who cares
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>>540510427
>Global warming is a problem
Because you are too fat.
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>>540510893
>what if CO2 increase is just a side-effect of warmer temps?
because CO2-content always strives to be at saturation level, which is higher, when warmer
(much like how hotter air can carry more water vapor/humidity)

also, CO2 is measured via spectroscopy from satellites, they look at which wavelengths of longwave thermal radiation going to space get "eaten up" by CO2
>what if
those missing bands are not necessarily CO2

all you guys have is a bunch of correlations
your confidence is absofuckinglutely appalling
you should all kys, climate scientists, but thatd be taking the easy way out
youre going to have to do the actual science
and not circle-jerk yourselves off
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>>540510427
We should build subterranean cities and move our whole society's underground. Capitalism needs throttled communism needs throttled and we need to exist with bare minimum impact in mind. Leave the surface to the animals so that they can reclaim it.
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>>540510427
THEY ARE SPRAYING EVERY FUCKING DAY
of course these sick pedo fucks are cooking us all
meanwhile they import africa and india so that the west can use more energy then ever while we die off
there is one easy solution

*redacted* the people spraying

another solution would b to wipe out the subcontinent, china and africa

that would not only solve global warming but countless other problems as well such as pollution
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>>540510427
Pretty sure depopulation measures are already at work. Give it 10 years. It will be fine.
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>>540510427
This is Hyde Park in London, in the worst drought the UK has ever experienced, after a summer of record temperatures that UK has never previously seen. But dumb people are still going to deny climate change until we're all boiling to death every summer
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>>540511301
Nigger.
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>>540510427
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>>540511505
aren't brits always bitching about how much it rains? there's just no winning with them
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>>540511601
The point is that its stopped raining and all the grass has died in London which has never happened before
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>>540511682
oh no not the grass. grass is sooo important
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>>540511505
high altitude aerosol injections
john brennan as head of cia talked about it on camera
look up what the effects are
then look at the darpa programs trying to "reflect the sun" and the effects of the clouds of micro-particulate heavy metals
try sticking a metal spoon in the microwave
what happens?
now consider they are spraying tonnes of metal dust into the ionosphere every fucking day
and it gets bombarded with cosmic radiation
wtf do you think will happen?
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>>540511682
if all london died tomorrow
the world would be better of tbqh
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>>540510427
Nothing, as it is part of the natural cycles.

Now what an individual should do is be ready to migrate north or defend your property, tribe, and community from invaders.

We Whites have always migrated away from niggers and jews. Might be time to switch things up as there are no places left to run to.
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>>540511779
The point is that it's a canary in the coalmine for the rest of the world. The UK used to have very midl summers, now it has summers that look as harsh as Australia's summers. That doesn't happen without a significant shift in the climate.
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>>540510750
You better be out on a fucking boat catching some Sazuki tomorrow morning because if you don't the Shina sure the fuck are going to vacuum the entire ocean anyway.
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>>540510750
16 largest Cargo ships create more co2 than all the world's cars.,there are over 6000 cargo ships.
Start the solution there. I'll keep my car, gas stove and eat as much meat as I like.
They're not serious about solving it.
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>>540511836
why is there a shift then einstein?
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>>540510427
Nothing.
Alternatively, just get the planet to cool off again by setting off a large volcanic eruption like it has done loads of times before.
Mt. Fuji is right there. Drop a nuke in it or something.
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>>540512017
Because either they don't care or it isn't real.which one is more likely?
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>>540512017
This is fact, mostly.
Their solutions are as stupid as their causes.
They want to fix shit, then end globalism.
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>>540511836
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocean/sst/anomaly/
everything this year is special, because the ocean is really special this year

these are definitely statistical anomalies, while
*already* having factored in climate change

a lot of greens are not seizing the opportunity to blast their propaganda
im not sure, if they themselves never believed any of their own shit, and are now caught dumbfounded
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>>540512093
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>>540510427
Cool now show the earth's weakening magnetic field/ shifting magnetic poles.
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>>540512017
That's not true at all. And actually, cargo ship is one of the most efficient way of transporting things compared to planes or cars.
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>>540512017
>16 largest Cargo ships create more co2 than all the world's cars
sorry to be that guy, but youre going to have to provide a source for that claim

https://www.earth.com/news/reducing-aerosol-emissions-shipping-industry-made-global-warming-worse/
since 2020 they banned the cheap fuel, and that actually made things worse
(the aerosols released are thought to have cooled and counter-acted GW)
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>>540512219
yeah, that chart will never go down, by the way
1.6 billion tonnes seems alot
>The atmosphere has a mass of about 5.15×10^18 kg
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>>540512219
so then lets hear it
say that the chinese and idians should be exterminated
and that africa as the giant exploding population should also be wiped out
after all whiltes went from 35 percent of the people on earth to 15 and we will be 5 percent in another 50 years
so
lets hear you say it
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>>540512502
The US is just as big of a climate criminal as India and China. China is also actively working on getting their emissions down. The US and India are not.
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>>540512480
>look at those confidence intervals
only thing thats somewhat accurate is fossil fuel count (because we keep track of it)
and the atmosphere CO2, because satellites and the averaging of great numbers
all those are other factors are all over the place

>picrel
this is how CO2-data looks like, and this is also actually already an averaged chart
these climate scientists... nah, you need to know EVERYTHING, i dont buy their confidence
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>>540510427
dont care, not my problem
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>>540512623
>einmal scharf mit alles
>"wallah," genau, danke
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>>540512561
since 1750
lol
brown claws typed this
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>>540510427
>What should be done about it?
atmospheric aerosols for temperature regulation - simple cheap effective reversible, buys time to decarbonize
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>>540510427
Kill the following
>Indians
>Jews
>Chinks
>Muzzies
>Blacks
>Anyone with dyed hair, body piercings, and tattoos
>The French
>Socialist
>OP
>OPs bloodline
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I hope the micronova will come before I die of old age
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>>540512561
china builds a new coal plant every day you chink liar
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>>540510427
>What should be done about it?
nothing
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>>540510427
> What should be done about it?
They shouldn't measure temperatures in regions that once were rural but got more and more urbanized in the recent 75 years. Simple as.
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>>540512728
>by adding them
>to jet fuel
chemtrails, heh
(they are idiots, fuel additives in jet fuel is the most no-brainer to explain it all, and I had to figure it out myself)
(faggots)
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>>540511779
we're spirits in the material world
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>>540512786
China are the biggest producers of renewable energy on the planet, the primary country that manufactures solar panels, batteries and EVs. Their grid is still dirty as hell, but at least they're trying. The US and India are absolutely not trying.
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>>540512728
you are made of carbon you stupid goy moron
decarbonize yourself
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>>540510427
fake and gay
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>>540512728
>>540512856
>>540512321
>https://www.earth.com/news/reducing-aerosol-emissions-shipping-industry-made-global-warming-worse/
just for you, takeshi
>The authors suggest this amplified warming is linked to changes in aerosol pollution. They specifically spotlight new regulations on ship fuel that reduce sulfur emissions.
>Ship aerosols once cooled the planet
>Aerosols are tiny specks in the air that can reflect incoming sunlight. In many oceanic regions, these particles had offset some of the warming effect of greenhouse gases.
>Because ships were a major source of sulfur-based aerosols, cutting this pollution reduced the reflective haze. According to the paper, less haze means more solar energy staying in the atmosphere.
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Chinks, Pajeets and the Jewsa need to curb greenhouse emissions. But it's too fucking late and nobody from those countries care.
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>>540511245
Also this
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>>540512941
>https://www.earth.com/news/reducing-aerosol-emissions-shipping-industry-made-global-warming-worse/
this was a proof of concept for atmospheric aerosols effectiveness, just like Pinatubo
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>>540513101
im not too sure about any of this
all those climate scientists do not inspire confidence they know when they dont know
you have idiots arguing about A and B, when you know they are both idiots, because it is fundamentally unknowable if its A or B, and climate scientists are arguing for A, while denialists argue its B
i dont know

you end up using those aerosols, worst case, yuo fucked up, that shit goes to where its cold, and then that gets even colder
or you only use it in one area, and then change weather patterns
who the fuck knows

id definitely feel more confident if these faggots would at least know whats happening, but when you look at what their saying, its a circle-jerk
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>>540513475
The fossil fuel industry has worked very hard to make it seem like there isn't a consensus that climate change is man made. It's something like 99.99999% of scientists say its man made. But fossil fuel industry amplifies the 0.0001% to create doubt and uncertainty about whether they are responsible for the world warming, when in reality, there isn't any.
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>>540510427
Buy more ACs, it's the only solution to Global warming,poorfags.
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Accelerate.

Let it burn.
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>>540513553
oh shut it, the fossil fuel industry was accidentally right
>HAVE YOU READ THE PAPERS
its a circle-jerk of karens and soifags
>HAVE YOU SEEN THE MODELS
which are still consistenly wrong, and need to be readjusted all the time >>540510893

you are a faggot, and you are making science harder, and your good intentions count for fucking nothing

now why dont you reduce your carbon footprint and kys
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>>540510633
Yeah I think these to contradictions should be pointed to more to ilistrate liberals are full of shit
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>>540510427
So what if it's real, me giving my money to Al Gore won't fix it.

The only constant in life is change....
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>>540513716
I wish the insects and little
Baby animals didn’t have to suffer
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>>540513553
>It's something like 99.99999% of scientists say its man made
also, this is actually an indicator of... a peer pressured field of science
not even in maths nor in physics do you have that strong a consensus

...oh dear, oh jesus, what have we done
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>>540514064
>not even in maths
im not joking
>Until the late 19th century, the axiom of choice was often used implicitly, although it had not yet been formally stated.
>For example, after having established that the set X contains only non-empty sets, a mathematician might have said "let F(s) be one of the members of s for all s in X" to define a function F.
>In general, it is impossible to prove that F exists without the axiom of choice, but this seems to have gone unnoticed until Zermelo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_choice

to this day
>Nomenclature
>In this article and other discussions of the axiom of choice the following abbreviations are common:
>AC – the axiom of choice. More rarely, AoC is used.[4]
>ZF – Zermelo–Fraenkel set theory omitting the axiom of choice.
>ZFC – Zermelo–Fraenkel set theory, extended to include the axiom of choice.
it is still not "consensus," obviously
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>>540513553
You do realize most of the earth was covered by huge Ice Sheets way before oil was a thing and then they melted, I guess the only explanation for the melting Ice sheets is cavemen driving SUVs...
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>>540510427
I'll kill myself
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>>540510427

wgaf. ai is taking over anyways, it'll either fix it or it won't, i don't care.
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>>540510857
>I live far enough north that I will stay comfortable for the rest of my life
Other people are going to flood in and ruijn the place you're living in
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>>540510427
>What should be done about it?
Nuke India, nuke China, nuke the US
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The micronova is coming
Niggers
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>>540511682
that's intentional. they think it's poetry something to do with indians. super el nino will make it super hot there and the fake iran shit makes oil not move freely. so major drought, major problems. uh oh stinky. it's all fake
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>>540512208
they do what they're told. and aren't ready to blow their load. they knew this was coming 100 years ago and have a plan don't you worry.
Al Gore was exactly 20 years ago.

it's all fake
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>>540510427
nothing, I wish it would get much worse and fast so people couldn't escape to colder regions.
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>>540513553
There is no climate change and you are a fag
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>>540512701
think of how many problems are on that boat. pick one problem and then follow them through all the problems they cause and all the problems those problems caused. then do that for each of them.
wowee that's a lot.
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>>540510427
>predict 3.5 degrees warmer in like 100 years or so
>your scam starts slowly fizzling out, people are no longer giving a shit
>crank the rigging up to ~1° per year to make your graph look scarier
kek
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>>540517922
when?
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>>540513553
>99% of scientists consenting that the vaxx is safe and effective and will stop corona
kys
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>>540518002
no, youre choosing the easy way out as well, by denying it all
this isnt just satellites (on which nasa doesnt have a monopoly either), there's ground measurements, ocean measurements and what-not, done by a variety of countries, including opposing geopolitical entities
>>540517922
solar irradiance appears to be a stable 1361Wm^-2, although one could contend the data for this is biased by being mostly american
and electric sun theory is trash, but solar wind might be worth considering as an extra energy input presently mostly being neglected
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>>540518033
that attitude, that spiteful resentful leftist attitude, is the only reason why there are millions of Indians in Canada.
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Every time I read about massive forest fires and drought in the USA, I smile. God truly is punishing the greedy and the evil. Funniest part is, they brought his wrath upon themselves by destroying his creation that is earth.
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>tfw tards will just rerun the same scams endlessly for your entire life in 10 year periods
Dire.
The need for a truly Scientific state is great indeed.
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>>540518262
The main event is in Octobre 2046 but we're gonna see X-Class CME's way before that, around 2030 which probably will wipe out the electric grid.
Read micronova anons posts in that thread:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/540114327
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>>540518383
>micronova
there've been 300+ post threads about this
that still does not make it any less wrong

of all the celestial bodies and phenomena to construct a crude theory, you guys had to pick the fucking sun, jfc
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>>540510427
Really,? When? Show us some proof.
Let me guess your "fix" involves more money and power for the government
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>>540518625
If you love easier to digest material i can recommend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMr-5HHnAmU
Very profound analysis
RIP Doug
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>>540518789
Here muhammed knows the truth.
Tell us sand nigger....
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>>540518834
>Doug is the whitest person
>Muh sandnigger
kys
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>starts are 1850
>a mini Ice Age
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>>540511505
Bong wine gonna hit the markets soon.
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>>540510427
How much CO2 was in the atmosphere during the Cambrian Explosion when there was more life on Earth than there ever was before or since? Why do they measure CO2 levels at the rim of an active volcano in Hawaii for their studies? If the sea levels really are rising why is all the most expensive real estate always located on an Island or right on the coast? Answer me these questions, nip and never forget Nagasaki & Hiroshima.
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>>540518789
see, this is how i know its sharlatanry
>its not A
>its B
but if its not A, that means the entire data, on which A is founded, is void, meaning any interference gained from data (such as B) is void as well

if i look at vostok ice core samples (and the field of geopaleontology), and then have my doubts
im not going to start arguing
>its been warmer/colder
>we'll be fine
because i need to discard all that data

we're actually flying blind with "hard data" from just the past 20-50 years
somewhat "softer" "hard data from 100-200 years
and before that
it gets really messy, either witness accounts or reconstructed "soft data" (such as vostok ice cores)
nobody *knows* how many ice ages there were
it is guessed and calculated, to a certain degree of confidence

either way, the sun is a giant ball of plasma, driven by fusion
electromagnetic effects are second-order from first order gravity effects, not the other way around
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>>540510750
>it's not the end of the world actually.
It pretty much is, we're already at a historical low of meat consumption.. Good luck convincing the Asians and Africans, too.
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>>540519184
You really should watch it, all your concerns are being adressed in the video
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>>540510427
>1850-2025
let's zoom out a bit
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>>540519351
yeah and your mom told me to tell you to make sure you packed your lunch box
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NO ONE WITH A THREE-DIGIT I. Q. GIVES ARE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "GLOBAL WARMING" / "CLIMATE CHANGE" HARABARA HOAX, YOU FUCKING KIKE CUNT
>NO ONE WITH A THREE-DIGIT I. Q. GIVES ARE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "GLOBAL WARMING" / "CLIMATE CHANGE" HARABARA HOAX, YOU FUCKING KIKE CUNT

NO ONE WITH A THREE-DIGIT I. Q. GIVES ARE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "GLOBAL WARMING" / "CLIMATE CHANGE" HARABARA HOAX, YOU FUCKING KIKE CUNT
>NO ONE WITH A THREE-DIGIT I. Q. GIVES ARE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "GLOBAL WARMING" / "CLIMATE CHANGE" HARABARA HOAX, YOU FUCKING KIKE CUNT

NO ONE WITH A THREE-DIGIT I. Q. GIVES ARE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "GLOBAL WARMING" / "CLIMATE CHANGE" HARABARA HOAX, YOU FUCKING KIKE CUNT
>NO ONE WITH A THREE-DIGIT I. Q. GIVES ARE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "GLOBAL WARMING" / "CLIMATE CHANGE" HARABARA HOAX, YOU FUCKING KIKE CUNT
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>>540519424
yeah, but it took 20k years, according to your chart
while we're doing it in 100

does this mean there were no such 100-year jumps in the 20k history?
both scientists and denialists will not be able to answer that
you faggots all dont understand time scales
>>540519391
this is MILLIONS of years
i.e. from when the romans lived, 2000 years ago
so long ago, isn't it?
well, 500 times this time-span is a MILLION years
thats how fucking long ago it was
and thats how fucking irrelevant it is
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>>540510427
Our current geologic period has the lowest average CO2 levels in the last 600 million years lol
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>>540519424
what is interesting from this, for archeology, is that if there was any ancient civilization, their ruins, and whatever remains from them, is buried under 100m of ocean and sediments
since 97% of people live in coastal areas or rivers
but thats archaelogy, and if you ever looked a bit into it, youll start to understand how wishy-washy and messy looking into the past is
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>>540510427
I wish global warming was real.
Then all the polar bears would die and bleeding heart liberal women would screech reeee and thats about the only thing that keeps me entertained these days.



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