>>540512084
Kill the chinese then

>>540512084
Get a job, tranny.

>>540512084
A capitalist alternative is to force the landlord to renovate the place every 5 years.

>>540512084
no one forcing you to live there, nigger

>>540512084
Don't like it? Buy your own house, faggot.

>>540512084
unless the landlord owns the property outright most of that money goes to the bankers. then the govt for taxes. then to maintain and repair the property you're damaging.

>>540512084
You choose to give it to him, just like you choose what job you agree to and at what pay.

The key element here with capitalism here is choice. You CHOOSE your fate. No one dictates it, but you, and your past choices, and the choices of your ancestors/parents.

>>540512084
your credit and employment history is too shitty to get a mortgage and you expect me to feel bad that mine isnt?
>h-have fun w-working for s-shekelstein, g-goy!!
yeah, let me just restructure several foundational principles of the modern world for you, dumbfuck. i guess i will enjoy owning multiple properties and you will enjoy paying for them

>>540512253
>damaging
homes are capital goods that produce living space yearly. all capital goods depreciate, regardless of user. kike.

>>540512253
Imagine having to do maintenance on an apartment getting stinked up by a Reddit troon. Fucking landlord is earning every penny

Boomoids itt aren’t ready for the future where GenZiggers brutally seize the means of production

>>540512084
If it's an apartment building then landlords are necessary to run the building. If they are renting single family houses then they are bad.

There's genuinely too much people in the planet unironically
Do you know my city, the 2-3rd largest in the state (not particulary important at that) has over 100,000 people alone?

A random fucking city has more people than entire subdivision of the roman empire at it's peak
We are full, of course we are gonna logically rent sometimes

>>540512084
They can try to find a better paid job or a cheaper apartment.
I always make sure that the tenants I select earn at least three times the rent.

>>540512084
buy some land and build your own house then faggot.
good luck.
>>540512477
>i buy a house 20 years ago
>i save up enough to buy another one instead of buying funko pops and starbuks
>rent out my other one for a reasonable price and be really fucking nice to my good renters cause they are hard to find.
nothing wrong with that you nigger.
although i do agree companies buying up houses to rent them out is kike tier and should be banned.

>>540512084
I used to think differently but then a landlord caught me walking down the street, grabbed me, tackled me to the ground, forced me to sign a lease, then dragged me to a u haul building and forced me to rent a truck, and then forced me at gunpoint to drive to my other home, pack all of my things into the truck, and move them into the apartment he made me lease, them he made sure I slept and ate and worked there and paid him money!

It's been hard to talk about being such a victim, but I can't believe this happened to me!

>>540512084
solid point

>>540512579
if you want to own 2 houses and rent one out then fine. My problem is people who own lots of houses and keep buying new ones to rent out. It drives up real-estate prices. they need to cap it at 2 houses per person for ownership.

>>540512665
people have to live somewhere, retard. And all landlords are the same.

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>>540512084
Renting is great, especially when the demand is low and interest rates are high. If you have a decent personality most landlords will lower your rent to keep you especially if you are not a leftist moron with entitlement issues lol.

>>540512084
>sign a contract agreeing to get swindled and robbed
>oh no why am I being swindled and robbed!
Urbanoid bugmen can't possibly be sentient human beings.

>>540512084
Have you considered the possibility that capitalists also think there is a problem, but don't agree with your solution? Because that's actually what's going on here. This isn't commies who want to be nice and capitalists who just want to be assholes, this is commies who just declare that if you don't agree with their solution you don't want to solve the problem. They shut down debate like that because they know that their proposed solution will make the problem worse, and they don't actually care.
>>540512186
Great idea, cap how much they are allowed to charge and then force additional expenses on them. That's totally what a capitalist would suggest. Government intervention with everything, that's capitalism. I'm sure that landlords manage to stay in business even when it's no longer profitable, and new people will be eager to enter this unprofitable sector of the economy. You're a genius!

>>540512748
Whoa don't be hostile, I'm agreeing with you! I forgot to mention that the apartment he forced me to lease was the only available home in the entire United States! There was no other choice presented to me at any time! I was forced to rent that particular apartment and there was nothing I could do - I was victimized by the evil landlord!

>>540512084
No it's not you stupid nigger

>>540512771
>just be homeless, bro!

>>540512693
>>540512748
Change your flag to fascist or something. You're clearly not an ancap.

>>540512084
You know what will fix this? Importing millions of welfare-immigrants.

>>540512084
It has always been. A parasitic economy that creates nothing, just like banking.

>>540512830
>bugman is so desperate for the hustle and bustle of niggernests that it would rather be homeless or agree to usurious contracts to stay inside the hive
Thanks for proving my point.

>>540512878
Landlords handle most of the tedious busywork of owning a home for their tenants, they objectively add value. When banks were first created they provided the service of providing secure warehousing of gold for their clients, when previously people had to just carry it around as coins or keep it in their homes. It was the development of fractional reserve banking and the creation of central banks and subsequently fiat currency which turned banks into scams. Similarly housing would be a much more ethical market without all the government intervention.

>>540512871
Immigrants live like 10 to a home. You need them to pay your outrageous rent so your "investment" doesn't rot and you can continue to sit on your ass collecting a paycheck

>>540512792
>Don't agree with your solution.
OP is a 1pbtid faggot. He didnt post a solution.
The solution is making it easier for people to be certified electricians, plumbers, architects, etc. You dont need a fucking college degree to build a house. The reason why this shit is so expensive is because there is a lack of these types of jobs and some of the ones that do exist, are contractors, which raises the prices.

And if you want to transfer your certification from state to state. Its super messy and their are all these rules on what certificate any state will accept. Complete bs on god.

>>540512084
>communists hate landlords
>communists also love taxation

being taxed is just paying rent to the state for shit they don't even own.

>>540512579
>nothing wrong with that you nigger
Just say you want private property laws because you want to own life necessities like land and houses so others have to rent from you. You want to live off the labor of others.

>>540513178
nigger, you're aware in communism there's rental apartments as well right?

>>540513178
>You want to live off the labor of others.
do you think houses appear out of thin air for free?
do you think they last forever and shit is free to fix on them?
you fucking retards want to live in a house for free without lifting a finger to do it.
kys dumb fuck commie.

>>540513119
You don't own shit. Stop paying your property taxes if you dont believe me
>b-but it's not fair
Neither is having someone else pay your mortgage. Get a job

>>540512084
They really aren't after all the loans they have to take out just to be a landlord

>>540513119
>Germans love being gay and stupid, they think going solar is viable despite the fact nuclear is 100 times better.
>Germans love insanely high taxes on all of their entrepenuers so that no new start ups can exist and their existing monapolies get even bigger and worse.
>Germans love importing infinity Muslims to their country as if things weren't bad enough.
Your words not mine. Might as well be communist with how shit your country is getting, kek. Atleast america has a few more decades left than you.

>>540513084
>OP is a 1pbtid faggot. He didnt post a solution.
I knew OP wasn't going to reply, it was only phrased as an answer to "him" (bots don't have genders) to make it easier to start a conversation off of. We know what his solution would be. Rent control or commieblocks.
>The solution is making it easier for people to be certified electricians, plumbers, architects, etc. You dont need a fucking college degree to build a house.
While credentialism is a problem, it's not the only problem or even the biggest one. The solution to the credentialism problem isn't to make getting the credentials easier, it's to just abolish the government enforcement of the credentialist scheme. They don't even do a good job of ensuring quality anyway.
>The reason why this shit is so expensive is because there is a lack of these types of jobs
It's got more to do with zoning and the million regulatory hurdles you have to jump over to just get permission from the government to build a residence. There are very few places where you're even legally allowed to build houses, and when you can you need to get all sorts of permits and inspections just to start construction.
>And if you want to transfer your certification from state to state. Its super messy and their are all these rules on what certificate any state will accept. Complete bs on god.
That's by design. Credentialist schemes are designed to keep labor out of the market to drive up the prices that the people who have the credentials can charge. It's like a price fixing cartel, but for labor rather than products.

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>>540513312
>do you think houses appear out of thin air for free?
Of course houses are not free. Kikes like you have massively overpriced them.

>>540513356
The solution is crashing the market like China did, putting people in homes and you getting off your lazy ass. Having a homeless crisis so a few people can sit around being fat isn't good for a productive economy

>>540513464
yeah surely its not kikes like you letting in 50 million illegals and giving them free shit, and overpaying for every niggers house through section 8

>>540512084
Why don't they buy a house then?

>>540513356
Just want to be clear. I'm not saying make getting credentials easier as in make the tests easier. I think the tests should accurately question all material necessary for any given role.

I am saying that spending 4 years of your life in college in order to get one is retarded. And if a lot more people with these credentials exist, the cost to build a house will go down.

I dont really know how big of a deal zoning laws are, I would just assume if you buy land in the correct zone it isnt much of a problem.
>You need all sorts of permits and inspections.
Permits are a one time thing I would think, maybe it needs to get renewed. But inspections, which again are facilitated by people with college degree certifications. Dont block off credentials with a college degree and a lot more inspectors will come around and making houses will be easier.

>>540513589
Too expensive. Real question is why don’t they just take the old weakling boomers’ houses from them?

>>540513502
China had a totally different problem. They were building way too many homes, frequently in places where nobody wanted to live. There was a bubble driving up prices, but that bubble was driving real construction, the supply wasn't artificially constrained.
>>540513594
>Just want to be clear. I'm not saying make getting credentials easier as in make the tests easier. I think the tests should accurately question all material necessary for any given role.
And I want to be clear, I'm saying that there should not be government tests and permits at all. The government has no right to tell people they can't do a job that people are willing to pay them to do.
>I dont really know how big of a deal zoning laws are, I would just assume if you buy land in the correct zone it isnt much of a problem.
The problem is that the space actually zoned for residential use is pretty limited.
>Permits are a one time thing I would think, maybe it needs to get renewed. But inspections, which again are facilitated by people with college degree certifications. Dont block off credentials with a college degree and a lot more inspectors will come around and making houses will be easier.
The whole point of the credentials is to make it hard to enter that market. They don't want the price going down, they want it to rise. Do you think the government actually cares if an electrician or plumber is good at their job? Do you think that if the system of certifications were abolished there would suddenly be a scourge of dangerously incompetent plumbers blowing up people's toilets? People who were bad at it would go out of business, just like in any other industry.

>>540512084
stop living above your means

>>540513883
I dont see how thats relevant. Theres more than enough houses to house people either way.

>>540513348
Do I sound like I love paying taxes you dumbass?

>>540512407
Any factory these commie faggots seize will immediately fail because none of these retards know how to make anything or maintain anything. None of them actually want to work in the factory. Every single time you talk to a commie they imagine themselves being some sort of inner party member or comisar that is responsible for enforcing communist ideals. Not a single one of them pictures themselves working on the factory floor doing a working class job.

>>540512084
Just fess up already that you are going after landlords because you see them as easier prey then the government.

>>540514179
Give me a house transportation and food and I'll work at your factory. Or maybe some profit sharing. Otherwise good luck with your workforce of illegals

>>540514179
America doesn’t have factories you boomer idiot, your disgusting generation shipped them all overseas decades ago.

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>>540512084
Call me a capitalist, your landlord should be making more money from your job than you. https://x.com/VoteLambright/status/2086670604439376183

>>540514179
>Every single time you talk to a commie they imagine themselves being some sort of inner party member or comisar
I would literally farm potatoes by hand under communism and be happier than under capitalism. At least a lowly potato farmer still gets his own small house under communism. Under capitalism laborers don't even get that.

>>540514021
DSA political candidates don’t tell me to worsen my quality of life. I will vote for them instead of anyone who espouses your ideas.

>>540514021
>stop living above your means
Yup, we should all just bow our heads and work our entire lives away for the glory of Israel.

>>540513883
>The government has no right to tell people they can't do a job that people are willing to pay them to do.
Respectfully, I understand that gating behind credentials does raise prices and that the way we have everything set up is very inneficient and overcomplicated. But I really dont think that no certifications would be good.
We are already having huge problems with Jeets faking experience, the job market is terrible and no company wants to pay out of pocket to train anyone.
Certifications allow companies to filter out inexperienced employees. Even in fields like IT Support where certs aren't manditory, it is still used (albiet less now since this sector is dying) because signals a baseline level of competence in that field.
>The whole point of credentials is to make it hard to enter the market.
Its true that some politicians have used credentials to this effect. But this isn't the only reason and you are significantly down playing the fact it is done to ensure competency and that builders know about the current regulations.
I understand hating the government, but I dont think its fair to anyone to act like they are completely evil and this is just done to raise prices and nothing else.

>>540514420
>At least a lowly potato farmer still gets his own small house under communism

lol. I kind of want communism to happen just so I could walk past you digging potatos with your hands while I can't stop laughing. Fuck I could dig potatos as well right besides you and still would be laughing at you. And then in the communal showers at the communcal apartment I'd still be laughing. You'd be trying to sleep in your bunk bed and I'd be in the bunk below laughing myself to sleep.

>>540514598
Why would you be laughing? Rich people really are mentally ill

>>540512084
No one cares what you think, and the vast majority of the world's population would have no problem brutally executing you retards because you are so cringe and retarded.

>>540514598
Laugh all you want. I would wake up with a smile every single day knowing that the fruits of my labor go towards myself, my people, and my country instead of working my ass off just so CEO's and shareholders get richer off my back.

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>>540514717
lol that would make me laugh even harder.

>>540512186
how about the dirty fucking niggers who fuck up apartments are forced to pay for the damages at gun point

>>540514085
if the supply actually met demand then prices would be much more reasonable. They'd still be artificially inflated by government backed home loans and stuff like that, but they wouldn't be anywhere near where they are right now. Just because there are technically enough houses for everyone doesn't mean that they are in places where people want to live or that they are what people want. A free market could solve these problems, government intervention just locks them in.
>>540514420
>At least a lowly potato farmer still gets his own small house under communism.
They literally don't. Every communist country has tried to collectivize agriculture. You'd live in a shared dorm with your fellow workers. If you want to own your shit you want capitalism.
>>540514548
>I understand that gating behind credentials does raise prices and that the way we have everything set up is very inneficient and overcomplicated.
>We are already having huge problems with Jeets faking experience, the job market is terrible and no company wants to pay out of pocket to train anyone.
So you're saying the government program doesn't actually fix the problem it's supposed to, and it definitely causes other problems, but we should keep trying to make it work? How about we just get rid of it entirely and at least not have the problems it causes, rather than trying to fix it and only maybe succeeding. Also the reason companies don't want to pay to train people anymore is also the government's fault.
>Its true that some politicians have used credentials to this effect.
It was literally the point from the very start. Some big businesses were using it to drive their smaller competitors out of business.
>you are significantly down playing the fact it is done to ensure competency and that builders know about the current regulations.
That isn't and never was the purpose. There wasn't some epidemic of dangerously incompetent plumbers which the government stepped in to save us from.

>>540512084
what's timmy gonna do

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>>540514812

>>540512084
Slavery is a more accurate descriptor.

>>540512748
people don't have to live in expensive cities

>>540514897
How exactly would the free market fix the artificial scarcity you're trying to push as organic with 101 tier capitalism propaganda?

>>540514949
Listen friend, they're all pedophiles. You think there's no pedophiles in communism? lol

>landlord shouldnt be making more money from your job than you are
Good thing landlords usually require you to make 3x the rent when applying

>>540512084
If you want affordable housing, the first step is to deport the 150 million legal and illegal immigrants who live in this country.

>>540515023
>How exactly would the free market fix the artificial scarcity you're trying to push as organic with 101 tier capitalism propaganda?
High prices lead to people wanting to enter the market to make money. These new entrants to the market undercut existing high prices. Prices fall until it's no longer possible to build new residences for less than they go for on the market. This really is 101 level shit, you're right. Why couldn't you answer that yourself? The much more interesting question is what is preventing that from happening, and it's not greed. Greed would lead to people trying to undercut each other to make a sale, so something is preventing people from just building cheap houses and selling them, or building cheap apartments and renting them out for lower than current prices.

>>540515185
>Greed would lead to people trying to undercut each other to make a sale
OR, collaborate to keep prices high. It has happened several times throughout several kinds of businesses.

>>540515185
Because artificial scarcity created by "investors" is keeping prices high. Its basic supply and demand. You were taught this is 101. Now tell me how the gubberment is restricting your free market in this case?

>>540515277
>OR, collaborate to keep prices high.
So you're saying that nobody would break the cartel to sell some extra houses and nobody new would decide to enter into the market since it's obviously so profitable? Unless the cartel is enforced by the government good luck keeping it going, especially for something as easy to enter into the market of as constructing houses.

>>540515306
its also dipshits in blue states like cali making it impossible to build anything new

>>540515306
How would they actually enforce this cartel and make sure nobody in the cartel cheats and sells below the agreed elevated price, and how would they prevent new people from entering the market? There were lots of attempts to create cartels during the gilded age, and they all fell apart either due to somebody secretly selling below the cartel's agreed upon price or because new companies entered the market. It wasn't until the government stepped in to regulate them that they were able to actually succeed in lowering production and raising prices.

>>540515400
Whos to stop investors or blackrock from just buying those too?

>>540515460
So its the govement stopping these investors from selling houses for less is what youre telling me. How are they doing that? Where are these cheap houses you are referring to? You got the scoop?

>>540515582
>So its the govement stopping these investors from selling houses for less is what youre telling me.
No, it's the government restricting new entrants into the market from building more houses you sneaky little shit.
>How are they doing that?
A combination of zoning laws, credentialism, permitting, taxation, and a bunch of other tools. Mostly zoning laws though.
>Where are these cheap houses you are referring to?
Not being built you little shit. Why are you so desperate to twist what I very clearly stated into the complete opposite of what I said in order to attack a strawman?

>>540512186
that's not capitalism, that's fascism
capitalists believe the market itself solves the issue most efficiently by providing better landlords

>>540515738
>there's not enough housing
Bullshit
Also >>540515468

>>540515468
So people would just start businesses building cheap shitty houses that the cartel would be forced to buy in order to keep them off the market. They'd be driven to bankruptcy pretty quickly. Carnegie almost went bankrupt trying to get a monopoly by buying every steel mill in the country, and people realized they could make money building really shitty steel mills and he'd buy them. He never actually reached the point where he could cut production and raise prices. Houses are way easier to build than steel mills.
>>540515926
>continues to attack strawmen rather than what I say
You really are a duplicitous little shit. It is the government restricting the supply which has allowed companies (which are frequently deeply in bed with the government themselves) to buy up all the slack and drive prices through the roof, along with government guaranteed home loans which pump money into the market allowing them to raise prices further. You're going to ignore all that though and just pretend that the free market is at fault and the solution is to give the government more power, even though that's what got us into this mess.

>>540515842
>the market solves itself
Protip, it doesn't. The market fixes its own issues about as well as a nigger digs one hole to cover another.

>>540515468
Prices are falling. Why would they buy at peak prices and risk losing money?

>>540515400
I don't know why anyone made a big deal about Trump's housing bill.
Do they really want the Federal government to override and dictate state and local regulations and zoning laws?

>>540516121
What youre doing is blaming the government for artifical scarcity created by investors and real estate firms. If everyone was housed you might have an argument. But you're a kike so your only argument is "they can't afford to buy every property". But they can, they are, and I hope all your rental properties burn down

>>540516222
>prices are falling and blackrock isn't buying them
Good hopefully that continues

>>540516425
>Good hopefully that continues
It won't. Prices will tank far enough to trigger another buying spike which just raises prices again. True affordable housing is gone forever anon. Barring a world wide natural catastrophe like an asteroid or nuclear war, you will never see affordable housing again. I fully expect 50 and 60 year mortgages to become the norm. You will own nothing and be happy.

>>540515468
you build so much that it makes it unprofitable for those niggers
housing prices probably wont go down much but they will stop rising like a fucking motherfucker

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>>540512084
You chose to live there and you chose to work wherever you work.
My rent is about 15% of my net income, which I consider acceptable given the circumstances, if I had to pay 50% of my income just to live and work somewhere I'd move out.
Blaming the world for the consequences of your own actions is female behaviour.

houses dont get built for free

>>540516327
>What youre doing is blaming the government for artifical scarcity created by investors and real estate firms.
You keep asserting that without evidence or argument. Even though you have been proven wrong you just repeat the same tired lies. You refuse to actually confront any of the arguments arrayed against you or acknowledge the historical counterexamples that prove that your claims don't hold water. You're like a religious fanatic.
>If everyone was housed you might have an argument.
Okay, so this statement means you have some mental model of how things work, and that it somehow implies this. Unfortunately you refuse to actually articulate how or why, and instead you attack strawmen and make bold assertions as if they were evidence for themselves, and then you repeat them when they've been disproven.
>But you're a kike so your only argument is "they can't afford to buy every property".
That isn't my only argument, as a matter of fact that isn't one of my arguments at all. You continue to attack strawmen rather than dealing with what I'm actually saying. Are you too stupid to realize that I didn't say that, or are you just trying to win the argument through trickery because you have some sort of pathological issue?
>>540516610
>Prices will tank far enough to trigger another buying spike which just raises prices again.
I do like the commies at least acknowledge the existence of the supply side of economics. You guys are at least smarter than Keynesians.
>True affordable housing is gone forever anon. Barring a world wide natural catastrophe like an asteroid or nuclear war, you will never see affordable housing again.
Naw, this state of affairs is highly unstable and can't really be sustained even with the heavy handed government intervention to keep the bubble propped up. There is no real life infinite money glitch, you just devalue the currency.

>>540516610
Its not worh dissecting how idiotic that these phantom lower prices would result in investors not buying them and keep the artificially high prices artificially high. Better to just pretend these shills are being genuine sometimes

>>540515842
the market has literally never regulated itself which is why "free market" is an oxymoron. only governments that can break up monopolies maintain workable societies

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All of the apartment dwellers itt seething have gave me big lolz

Thx m8s

>>540513312
You're not paying for the house so much as the right to exist in a specific location, that's why landlords can charge so much.
A lot of shilling for richfags ITT.

>>540516630
I dont think houses are even cheap to build anymore. It might be partially zoning but its probably also that it's not profitable to build them and sell them at an affordable price

>>540516782
Im not reading that. Just say "nuh uh" and move on. I already know im right

>>540516836
>the market has literally never regulated itself which is why "free market" is an oxymoron. only governments that can break up monopolies maintain workable societies
So why is it that monopolies and cartels always failed before the progressive era when the government stepped in to regulate them and supposedly protect us from them?

80% of landlords only own one housing unit

>>540513464
this image is retarded, capitalists aren't massively buying up new homes, these homes are being sold to families
why do communists lie constantly?

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>>540512407
Name one thing of value marxists produce?

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>>540514949
>communist talking about pedophiles
HAHAHAHA

>>540516993
>memeflag kike pretends blackeock doesn't exist
Pretending to be retarded can only get you so far

>>540516630
The more housing you build the more kids people will shit out. You will never reach a point where there is so much available housing that demand is small in comparison.

You would have a sacrifice all national forests and parks and basically genocide all the animals and farm lands and build housing over all of it to make housing affordable again. And then even if we did that who is going to upkeep all those excess housing units to keep prices low?

Or you could just accept that the free market is a failure. It will always seek to commodify basic necessities like housing in order to generate profits for investors. Thus housing for profit is a failure at a foundational level. It will never achieve the affordability mandate it seeks because the system itself is designed to increasing housing price ls to keep investors rich and happy.

Socialism is the only way. But human nature will never accept it.

>>540517031
Don't laugh about this picture, there are a hundred million people in the US right now who think their Chipotle burrito is too expensive and they could do it better.
We're about to see most farms in the US replaced with these, hope you have a contingency plan for when the grocery stores are empty.

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>>540517069
>he still believes in the blackrock myth after it's been debunked a million times
I hate blackrock and think they should be broken up, but they aren't buying up homes you fucking retard.>>540517071
>You will never reach a point where there is so much available housing that demand is small in comparison.
Except in Japan and South Korea
lol
god why are commies such retards?

>>540517071
how does communism change the fact we need more housing for the amount of people we have?
what we need to do is deport the fucking illegals

>>540517143
>memeflag kike pretends to debunk a known fact with a literal who Twitter post
Predictable and pathetic

>>540516782
>There is no real life infinite money glitch, you just devalue the currency.
You really think they care about devaluing currency anymore? If the housing market truly started to nose dive, then the big makes would be dragged along with it and every other thing the big banks are linked to. Big gov will never allow that. They are money printer goes brrrrrrrrrrr for eternity, and even if you hate that you have no choice because there is no other viable currency. You will use the dollar and there is nothing you can do about it! You will tolerate endless inflation because you have no other currency options!

>>540517193
We dont need more housing. We need more housing people can afford instead of making investors rich.

>>540517258
for that you need to let people build lmao
a lot of states are making it impossible
some are making it easier
guess whose housing prices are cheaper

>>540517207
>>memeflag kike pretends to debunk a known fact with a literal who Twitter post
LMFAO that was for the other guy, not you
HAHAHAHA what a dumbass

>known fact
"As of 2021, the Private Equity Stakeholder Project estimated that all institutional investors owned just 350,000 properties across the country, which is roughly 0.36% of the approximately 100 million single-family homes in the United States (6:52-7:00). A more aggressive estimate by MetLife puts that figure at 700,000 properties, or 0.72% (7:03-7:08)."
Different stat: https://reason.com/volokh/2026/01/07/barring-institutional-investors-from-buying-homes-wont-make-housing-more-affordable-and-would-likely-make-things-worse/
"Large institutional investors (those who own 100 or more homes) own only about 3% of single-family homes nationwide. That's nowhere near enough to attain any kind of monopoly power, even if we assume (implausibly) that the large investors are colluding with each other. The fact that large investors account for a higher percentage of recent sales doesn't change that reality. Even if they were to increase their share of the housing stock several-fold, that still wouldn't be nearly enough to create any kind of monopoly."

>>540517230
You communists are the ones that support central banking and endless inflation in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWqhsh848E
The money printing along with NIMBYism/zoning is the reason housing is so expensive.

>>540517308
Nope. There's already enough food and housing to feed and house everyone. Capitalists choose not to do it for profit. Everyone knows it

>>540517031
>Name one thing of value marxists produce
We produce truths anon. There is no way Marxism would still be around if there wasn't truth to it.

>>540516993
>this image is retarded, capitalists aren't massively buying up new homes, these homes are being sold to families
It doesn't even make sense. Like if the investors were buying homes for 300k and selling them for 600k, wouldn't the builders just raise their prices to the investors or go into the business of marketing them themselves? Like that's 300k of profit they're just leaving on the table for the middlemen according to that image.
>>540517069
>blackeock
Blackstone is the one in the housing market, I know it's confusing but do try to keep up.
>>540517071
>The more housing you build the more kids people will shit out.
People don't solely base their decision to have kids on the price of housing.
>You would have a sacrifice all national forests and parks and basically genocide all the animals and farm lands and build housing over all of it to make housing affordable again.
Literally not true. Just allow people to build residential buildings in places currently zoned for offices and farms and shit. My family literally owns a farm that just sits there because we're not farmers and we can't sell the damn property because doing so would mean we'd have to pay so much in taxes it wouldn't be worthwhile. If it weren't zoned as farmland we could subdivide it and sell it to developers to build housing, but that's literally illegal. So this is a bunch of land that is going completely unused in an area where housing is ludicrously expensive.
>you could just accept that the free market is a failure.
I literally have enough land to drive housing prices in my area down by like 10%, but the government won't let me. How is that the free market's fault?

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>>540517389
>There's already enough food and housing to feed and house everyone. Capitalists choose not to do it for profit. Everyone knows it
Socialists are actually in a religious cult.
They actually unironically believe insane fantasy myths like this and that's what drives their retardation.

They all deserve death.

>>540517031
didn't you outsource practically your whole productive economy to China under the CCP?

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>>540517403
>We produce truths anon.
Why didn't lysenkoism produce high crop yields then?
Why didn't the rate of profit fall, even after 150 years?
Why did bohm bawerk refute the labor theory of value then?
Why did the state never wither away then?

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>>540517193
>we need more housing
We don't.

>>540517403
>There is no way Marxism would still be around if there wasn't truth to it.
You're not religious are you? Because there are a lot of religions and I'm sure you don't think they're all true. There is a small kernel of truth to Marxism, there is exploitation in the world and there is a class of exploiters, but it's not the capitalists. It's the government. There are two classes, the tax payers and the tax consumers.

>>540517446
>we have comically high levels of inequality
>anyone who wants to fix this is stupid and should be executed
I don't think whoever's paying you to shill this poorly is getting their money's worth

>>540512084
I have a couple condos i rent out and somebody on welfare makes more money than I collect in rent.

>>540512084
lol living in a building someone else built and maintains isn't theft on the landlord's side.

>>540517328
Private equity firms should own 0% of single family homes. Im not what you think this proves

>>540517516
Communist subhumans admit they want to artificially restrict the supply of housing and force the working class to go homeless.

This is already a solved problem, japan and south korea let people build and they have extremely cheap housing costs that stay roughly the same or go down. see: >>540517143

Also the empty homes thing is yet another fucking myth. These homes are either abandoned, unlivable, vacation/student homes, in the process of being rented/sold or being renovated.
Communists lie with statistics and not one of them tries to actually correct the record and tell the truth.

Communists are human garbage.

>>540517530
>>anyone who wants to fix this is stupid and should be executed
These people don't want to fix shit. They're statist bootlickers and elites. If they did they would want to abolish central banking like Libertarians.
Instead they support central banking.

>>540517614
>Im not what you think this proves
It proves that they aren't the ones making housing more expensive or preventing you from buying a home.
It's irrelevant to the point.
I mean duh. Try to keep up retard.

>>540517516
Where are all the squatters?
In Los Angeles a dozen people were living in a mansion for over a year. They only got caught because people started tagging walls and local news reported on it.
I believe the owner is the son of some Hollywood producer and he hasn't lived in LA for a few years.

>>540517516
>just give free houses to a bunch of drug addicts who will utterly shit up whatever neighborhood is around the free home

>>540517670
Its not just them. Its whoever is paying you to shill as well

>>540517328
Central banks smooth market cycles so people can have some reasonable job security. If we went back to the gold standard, then all employees would be directly exposed to market boom and bust cycles. It would be 100% employment one month followed by 60% unemployment 3 months down the road. Cannot have a functioning civilization with that much instability.

Zoning laws and building codes exist so you cannot build an African nigger shack in the middle of a Walmart parking lot and shit in plastic bags.

>>540517516
>the solution to the housing crisis is to relocate all the homeless people to people's vacation homes, because there obviously isn't any reason they don't live there year round.
So do you think location doesn't matter for housing or what? Because the unoccupied houses mostly aren't in places where there are jobs or public transit or anything like that. We're talking about people's beach houses and stuff. The few places where the houses are both unoccupied and in convenient locations they are typically in that condition because government regulations make them uneconomical to sell or rent out, either due to rent controls or taxes or what have you.
>>540517670
>Libertarians
Use the lowercase "L" my dude, the Libertarian Party is such an embarrassment these days. I don't know if they even want to end the fed.

>>540517710
yeah l'm a shill for uhhh..... people who want to abolish central banking... yeah
makes perfect sense!!!

If you marxist bootlickers had a refutation to anything I am saying, you would have produced it already.
You're ideologically raped by people who want to enslave you.

>>540517752
>Central banks smooth market cycles
It's fucking hilarious when a marxist who claims to hate capitalism defends the state stealing purchasing power from the working class and giving it to wall street capitalists and also to the housing market so rich boomers can get richer.
Absolute cuckoldry.

>then all employees would be directly exposed to market boom and bust cycles.
Central banks don't stop boom and bust cycles, they create them. Pre-fed cycles were the result of other forms of government intervention. It wasn't a purely free market at that time.

>>540517781
>Use the lowercase "L" my dude, the Libertarian Party is such an embarrassment these days. I don't know if they even want to end the fed.
I agree. It's so fucking atrocious. They really dropped the ball. Libertarians are a joke now, even though they are technically right about everything. Nobody wants to hear anything we have to say because of the past cringe.

>>540517847
Show flag moishe

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Reminder that communists hate the working class with a passion and want us all to suffer and die.
They know what their ideology has historically caused and they support it anyway.

>>540517915
lol I accept your concession.
It's so easy to destroy you central bank apologist cuckolds

Fuck israel and jews btw.

>>540517670
the US can't follow Japan's lead because it has a politically powerful landlord class which buys politicians
You don't need to go full communism to break landlords, but you do need communists to be powerful enough to force capitalists to make concessions, that's why basically every land reform in history happened (that or tons of free land after indigenous people died en masse of smallpox/got slaughtered). The fear of China, North Korea, and the JCP absolutely motivated it in Japan and South Korea. The US can no more solve this problem absent left-wing pressure than it can give its people health care.
Libertarians often fail to understand how politics work in practice, and therefore propose unrealistic and unworkable solutions like a self-regulating market.

>>540517530
>I don't think whoever's paying you to shill this poorly is getting their money's worth
No one's paying him. Right-wingers believe that rigid hierarchies = order. And order is better than chaos. It's one core reason why they protect the rich so much. They see taxing the rich as an attack on an orderly society. They do even recognize that too much wealth inequality results in the instability and disorder that they hate.

Furthermore, they actually believe it is their god given freedom to earn and hoard as much money and resources as they want to. They do no see society as the collective that it is. They see it as, "fuck you! I will take all that I want and I don't care at all about the collective or overall health of society!" Right-wingers are a very selfish and hyper individualist people. They are civilization destroyers.

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>>540512084
Rent is theft? Theft of what? A rental property is providing you a service, ie - Someone built up their credit, saved up lots of money, shopped around for a good house, shopped around for a good interest rate and other variables on a mortgage, went into contract, put forth 20% of the total sale price in cash ($100,000 or more), signed the mortgage contract, signed the sale contract, put tens of thousands of dollars into renovation (painting, flooring, landscaping, appliances, etc), applied for and acquired all the various insurances such as liability, fire, flood, and equipment insurances, paid to file the property as a business to get a tax ID, paid to have several inspections done, met with several real estate agents to list their property as a rental, screened through several tenants, and finally went into a lease agreement with a tenant.

You are paying the landlord to file and make the quarterly property taxes on the property, to make the monthly mortgage payment that you would fail to qualify for, to make the quarterly payments on the various required insurance policies that you would fail to qualify for, to make the payments on the various annual inspections for gas lines and general fire safety, to make the annual payments on the maintenance cost to keep the air conditioner and furnace and hot water heater in working condition, and many other nagging expenses and concerns.

While all you do is pay rent. If you think it is so easy, go buy a home and stop being a renter. Stop whining like you think the world owes you something. Start doing whatever is required of you to get from here to there. Or, be a sucker and take the easy lazy road of being a renter.

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>>540518029
>the US can't follow Japan's lead because it has a politically powerful landlord class which buys politicians
No shit. These people need to be stopped.
It's the government that creates these problems.
> that's why basically every land reform in history happened
I agree with some land reform if the land was previously in the hands of actual feudal lords.
That actually makes sense.
That has nothing to do with modern day america where 65% of the country owns their own home

>>540518062
>They are civilization destroyers.
Lets see successful socialist societies. Pic related.
inb4 endless excuses of muh cia intervention

>>540517847
>marxist who claims to hate capitalism defends the state stealing purchasing power from the working class and giving it to wall street capitalists
I don't like it either anon. But I dunno what the fuck to do about it other that wipe the idea of money out completely! Murdering muh scary central bank is only going to expose workers to psychopathic market fluctuations even more and will absolutely make their lives worse off!

Go to Somalia where they have no central banks and tell me how the workers are fairing there?

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>>540518202
>I don't like it either anon.
Bullshit. You said you supported central banking.
You do like it.
>But I dunno what the fuck to do about it other that wipe the idea of money out completely!
lmao it's called having free banking, it worked in the past and it worked now.
We need a deflationary economy so wages can increase and prices fall.
inb4 deflationary spiral myth
>is only going to expose workers to psychopathic market fluctuations
No it will expose them to a gradual and natural decline in prices. How horrible!

>Go to Somalia
A failed socialist state that only improved after they abandoned socialism and switched to warlording clans?
lol lmfao even
>no central bank
they literally use the US dollar

>>540517924
>Reminder that communists hate the working class with a passion?
The only ideology fundamentally structured around the working class and their struggle against the people exploiting them actually hates them.....

Do you seriously believe this shit you spew?

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>>540518186
>Lets see successful socialist societies
Pic rel

>>540518307
>The only ideology fundamentally structured around the working class and their struggle against the people exploiting them actually hates them.....
You people claim to care about them, but it's all a big scam because you then advocate enslaving them and forcing them into poverty.
How does a totalitarian state where every last aspect of your life is controlled a benefit to workers?
This is what happened when Lenin took over Russia and tried marxist central planning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWqhsh848E
Absolute disaster.

>Do you seriously believe this shit you spew?
You're literally a communist!

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>>540518360
>shows capitalism
LMAO The only examples socialists have of successful socialism are literally capitalist experiments in a socialist hellhole.
Mao tried actual socialism, total central planning and it resulted in tens of millions of deaths.
China only began to grow when deng took over and they did massive capitalist market reforms.

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>>540518417

How does a landlord 'make more money from your job than you do'? Thats makes nonsense

>>540518300
>inb4 deflationary spiral myth
It was called The Great Depression anon, and it wasn't a myth.

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>>540518307
Nah, you commies just hate people who have more than you. You are an extremely jealous bunch, combined with extreme laziness and cravening along with a predictably low IQ.

>>540518445
>The Great Depression
lol
read a book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Great_Depression
The depression happened because the fed print a bunch of money, created a bubble that popped, then instead of letting the economy restructure, hoover and FDR sperged out and heavily intervened in the market, basically choking out the private sector.
It was basically the only time america tried socialism.
American socialism was literally the great depression.

>>540512253
Seems like your admitting the landlord is parasitic and unneeded. You could simply just go directly to the bank if it wasn't for some arbitrary law that forced you to give money to a middleman.

>>540512356
Maintenance is part of owning something
If you don't like it. Sell it

No one pays me for mowing my yard or replacing my water heater.

Why do landlords think they deserve your paycheck just for existing?

>>540518467
>y-you just want to be a greedy anti human psychopath who's never worked for anything in his life
Lol no

>>540518433
The retarded subhuman communist shitstain is acting like if you pay rent for something that belongs to them, they are stealing money from your job.

>>540518307
Nobody falls for this bullshit anymore. You are lying, you don't care about that. You are just maliciously envious.

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>>540518672
They literally are
You provide no value to the property and extract wealth.
It's parasitic.


Y'all move back to Canadian flags since the jap one was obvious?

>>540518202
>Go to Somalia
Somalia was actually one of the fastest growing economies in Africa before the African Union mission to prop up the government and the US started bombing it and hasn't stopped bombing for 30 years. It's hard to tell exactly how quickly their economy was growing since there wasn't any centralized body collecting statistics, but according to metrics like cell phone adoption (a big deal in the 90s and early 2000s) energy consumption, food prices, and things like that, their economy was actually growing extremely quickly compared to their neighbors.
>where they have no central banks
Somalia has had a central bank for more than 20 years. You're obviously one of those motherfuckers who thinks Africa hasn't changed since the 90s. Let me guess, when I say "Rwanda" the only think you can think of is the genocide that happened more than a quarter century ago.
>tell me how the workers are fairing there?
Depends on where in Somalia we're talking, but generally they're trucking along alright. The central government is still pretty weak, and it's being counterbalanced by groups like Al-Shabaab, which in certain regions provides alternative courts and stuff to the government, and forces the government to be less shitty than most in the region through competition. The US and Israelis have been propping up a proxy faction in Somaliland and are trying to break it off from the central government's control, which is causing problems. Somalia's a really interesting place, you fucking racist.

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>>540518307
It's a Jew.
I wouldn't worry about it. If Jews didn't want communism they would do taken care of us goy better.
This is how you get communism. I welcome it.

>>540518917
>If Jews didn't want communism they would do taken care of us goy better.
Jews do want communism. The vast majority of Jews around the world are lefties or socialists of some variety, and most of the most powerful advocates of socialist policies around the world have been and continue to be Jewish. In some cases they're deliberately making life shittier so you'll support socialist policies which give them more power.

>>540512138
yes, why don't the landlords do that?

>>540519355
>tf
>tp
The irony is palpable.

>>540512299
No you don’t. Employers hold nearly all the cards here.

>>540518707
Eh, they're responsible for maintaining the property

>>540512253
>then to maintain and repair the property you're damaging.
in what schizo world? renters have to pay for everything out of pocket unless they literally burn the place down or something.

a landlord can go a decade without investing a fucking cent into the property, for apartments most do.

>>540519418
But they aren't, have you ever rented anything? If the landlord "maintains" a property that means they're kicking out the existing tenants and renovating it to rake in higher rents after the repairs are done. After the repair cost is recouped it's pure profit.

>>540519389
how, explain.

>>540519393
>No you don’t. Employers hold nearly all the cards here.
Gee, it's almost like it's nearly impossible to start a business and most businesses fail within the first few years. I wonder what could have caused that to happen? It's certainly not caused by government regulations and being taxed out of half your money. Changing that would be a bad thing, since then they could just do whatever they want, and businesses are greedy, unlike governments, who are pure and noble and do everything out of a desire to serve the public good.

>>540519500
It's funnier that you don't get it.

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>>540512084
Your money is at a better place in your landlord's hands, wagie.

>>540519528
no, you just don't have a response and hoped you could vaguepost your way out of a bind. you don't even know what flag this is.

>>540512084
> landlord owns his means of production
> commies still mad

Let's admit that any economic/political system based on nothing more but pure grievance isn't a serious system.

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>>540518576
Let me explain something to you. You're a coward who is afraid to compete, afraid to have to scratch and claw your way to a life well earned.

Two brothers born less than a year apart. One brother spends his school years with his nose in the books, constantly reading, constantly testing himself with new material, living away at university, doubling his efforts at exam time, routinely engaged with his professors, devoting a few hours each week to a volunteer position in the industry he hopes to work in someday, doesn't own a TV nor a game console but does own shelves of text books and note books.

The other brother spends his school years playing video games, smoking pot, drinking beers, watching porn, hanging out with friends until 4 AM, cutting classes, sleeping until 1 PM, and living in a room in his mom's basement.

One brother gets himself a part time job because he wants a little extra money in his pocket. He collects his weekly paycheck and every month he buys $100 of a managed S&P 500 mutual fund and deposits it into his Roth IRA account. He repeats this every month until he starts making a little more money, sometimes depositing $600 of S&P per month into that Roth IRA.

The other brother spends his extra money on beer, pot, video games, netflix, hulu, and the newest mobile phone.

Fast forward 30 years. The brothers are in their late 50s. One brother is an international corporate lawyer charging his clients $1200 per hour and making $2.1M per year in salary. He checks his Roth IRA and it is now worth several million dollars. He cashes out and uses the money to buy revenue bearing real estate property that generates a monthly revenue of $85k.

The other brother is a cook in a diner with a salary of $45k annually. He works long hours, nights, weekends, and holidays. He has no retirement fund.

One brother worked his ass off to get where he is. The other brother was a lazy slob who never invested in himself. You are too afraid to compete.

>>540519599
how can you be too stupid to understand what the fucking communists want, it's literally an ideology designed for the lowest common denominator

landlords are the purest example of capitalism and rent-seeking because the landlord literally does fuck all but extract rent from capital he owns. the tenant is the one using the capital to be productive.

>>540519621
>One brother is an international corporate lawyer charging his clients $1200 per hour and making $2.1M per year in salary
notice how he's got a job where he's doing something productive rather than investing his way into wealth by saving up from part time jobs or flipping properties.

unless you're born into wealth or get insanely lucky with some random loot drop you can't skip the "productive member of society" stage.

>>540518433
They mean that people often pay over 50% of their salary on their rent.

>>540519580
>no, you just don't have a response and hoped you could vaguepost your way out of a bind.
Do you really want to know? Well fine, I guess I'll give you a hint. You're whole region is called the butthurt belt over what the Russians did to support your local socialist movements which were enacting the sorts of policies you think are such a great idea.
>you don't even know what flag this is.
You're obviously a mobilefag who doesn't know that adults with real computers can just mouse over the flag and see what it is. Even if I couldn't, Latvia's flag is a browner shade of red than Austria, the color of pure butthurt, shit mixed with blood.

>>540512084
you can always buy your own home fag.
A a land lord had enough to rent out land. if you have problem don't rent and buy your own.

>>540519804
>if you have problem don't rent and buy your own.
There is a very limited amount of land zoned for residential use in the US. If you buy a random plot of land you probably can't build a house on it and live in it.

>>540512253
Yes landlords are notoriously minimizing margin to keep all the money in renter’s pockets

Modern saints

>>540519621
Literally a story from the 1930s written by a Jew.


>>540519578
You guys aren't going to be so smug when your attitude creates millions more communists. I'm not dying to save fuckwits like you nor will I die for fuckwits like that.

I will laugh as both sides kill each other though.

When shit hits the fan don't cry cause you where warned.

>>540519621
Well.if you are gangstalked they basically attack you from all angles. You lose every job. They make rumours about you. You never can be stable


Now imagine the Stasi operation includes going against any white man. Every white man who is intelligent at least. Don't become a nigger? You get stasied your whole life till you fail u less you are a jew