If black people are more genetically predisposed to violence, why is it that the vast majority of the black population in the United States have never committed a violent crime?
a majority of shitbulls haven't mauled a child unprovoked either
another thread by a genius for the genii
>>540520278Have you ever seen how aggressive most Chihuahuas are?It's not that the breed is more genetically aggressive, it's just that they're more physically capable of causing damage that requires hospitalizations.
>>540520203I don't know why you started this thread with a statue of the thinker when your topic starter is an unsound argument that has not had much thought put into it. The vast majority (its actually not that vast, something like 1 in 18 blacks is a murderer and that's just with recorded crimes, many murders without culprits found in the hood, many missing black women) of blacks never committing a violent crime doesn't contradict the fact they are genetically more prone to sociopathy and violence.
>>540520375Again, another unsound argument. Chihuahuas being hyperactive does not infer that Pitbulls are not more genetically aggressive. German shepherds are larger than pitbulls and the second most likely dog breed to attack humans yet are still 10x less likely to attack a human than Shitbulls. This strongly suggest Pitbull attacks are indicative of a genetic trait within the breed.---Good book to read, The New Unhappy Lords by A K Chestertonhttps://ia803109.us.archive.org/13/items/TheNewUnhappyLords1965/1965%20-%20New%20Unhappy%20Lords%20-%20A.%20K.%20Chesterton.pdf
They are being forced to obey laws by an oppressive government.
Why can’t you make sense?Why is anyone replying to an OP that makes no sense with anything but>fuck off retardFuck off retard
In any given year, 95% percent of the black population will not be arrested for a crime. If this issue were actually genetic, especially on a racial basis, then this figure would be drastically lower, so what gives? Does the majority of black people simply lack that genetic predisposition to aggression?>sociopathyNice one, Dr. Chud, ASPD rates are consistent across racial demographics, so you basically just pulled that out of your ass.
>>540520654Shit, meant for this retarded faggot.>>540520414
>>540520553Nice way attempt to recontextualize "aggression" as mere "hyperactivity."Chihuahuas bite humans in equal to higher frequencies than pitbulls, and many pitbull attacks stem from mistreatment that results in antisocial behavior, or something as simple as lack of spaying/neutering.
>>540520203You, as a the North American pavement ape, ofc are not able to understand pro capita even in it's most simple calculation. .
>>540520203because the vast majority of any population doesn't commit violent crimes. there's always a small percentage that commits almost all of the crimes. it's called recidivism. crime could be solved instantly, by just killing or locking up the criminal population, like in El Salvador, but the government intentionally lets criminals loose, to keep the general population on edge.if you're not scared of criminals, you wouldn't tolerate government.
>>540520884>per capitaSo, even though 85% of black Americans will never be sent to a state or federal prison, the fact that 15% of them will proves that there's something in their genes that influence them to commit crimes?If that is the case, what's the deal with the 85%, are they simply just different genetically, or could there some other factor that influences this behavior?
In terms of violenceAsians>Indians>Blacks>Muslims/Arabs/>Whites.Whites are more violent as they commit violence on greater scales followed by Muslims.
Doesn't get caught beating their family or get arrested stealing = innocent.Ok Nigger Op.
>>540521084Source- My ass.Show real flag there Chinaman.
>>540521071well, it's 15% for black people, and it's 5% for white people, and it's like 2% for asians.all numbers completely made up of course.this is the crux of the issue.black populations produce more criminals.the vast majority of blacks are just normal people trying to live their lives and they don't hurt anyone.but they produce more criminals.and the solution to crime is to El Salvador them, like I said earlier. cos it's the same people that commit all the crimes.
>>540520955>because the vast majority of any population doesn't commit any violent crimes.Then why the assumption that black people are inherently more violent?Also, >recidivismis often worsened by punitive justice measures and poor rehabilitation conditions, which is why counties like Norway have drastically reduced recidivism rates with extensive criminal justice reforms.>>540521087Lol, even if that made a substantial difference in the calculation, and couldn't be attributed to actions committed by the population already engaged in criminal activity, what do you think that percentage would be?
>>540520203The vast majority of niggers committed a violent crime. Niggers get away with it more often since they enforce the no snitch rule.
>>540521175I think the best solution, in this case, is to abolish the law.No law, no crimes.Ez.
>>540520203If bears are dangerous, how come the vast majority of bears have never mauled a human? Huh, dumb dumb idiot?
>>540521335>The vast majority of niggers committed a violent crime.I guess you know this through some form of omniscience, or it's just some retarded assumption with no basis in reality.>>540521416If the interaction between bears and people were enough to be statistically relevant, then your false equivalence would probably have some legitimacy, but black people live in society, in proximity to other people, so have the potential to engage in violent activity, but don't.So, why?
>>540521353technically correct, but this would increase the amount of violence in the world.>>540521278it's not an assumption, it's an observation. and it doesn't mean that any random black person is 10% more violent than any random white person. it just means that you're more likely to find violent black people.but I know you're pretending to be retarded. I just don't have anything better to do at this time.
>>540520203Because you don't understand per capita? Yes that's it. You stupid fucking nigger. And it's actually not that vast of a majority. You double stupid fucking nigger.TKD/TND
>>540520203The police can’t catch all the bad guys.
>>540521071Those 15% are the only criminals that actually end up in jail maybe there are another 15% in drug abuse, violence, theft well all the shit this ppl usually do which never reach any static, ever. If Whites had 15 criminals within 100 pipo, Blacks would have 30 to 45 criminals within 100 pipo. If you were not biased, you could even see their violence in their "music", the language they use.
>>540521278>which is why counties like Norway have drastically reduced recidivism rates with extensive criminal justice reforms.maybe there is a more correct way to treat them while they're in prison, but you have to get them in prison first.
>>540521602>Household burglaries and trespassing offenses were reported to police at much lower rates (44.9% and 41.2%, respectively), while personal theft/larceny and other types of theft were only reported around a quarter of the time.>Among violent crimes – excluding homicide, which BJS doesn’t track – robbery was the most likely to be reported to law enforcement in 2022 (64.0%). It was followed by aggravated assault (49.9%), simple assault (36.8%) and rape/sexual assault (21.4%).https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/
>>540521608Sure, statistically that's sound, but the main argument here is that if this were really a genetic issue, then then we would likely see the number of violent blacks to be much, much higher.>>540521655>per capitaI'm well aware of per capita, but how does this contradict the fact that 85% of black Americans will never be imprisoned. 85% is a fairly vast majority, even though the percentage of whites that will never be imprisoned is roughly 97.5%, so that 12.5% difference is where the per capita number lies, which seems far less impressive when you consider the fact that most black people don't commit crimes.
>>540520861>bitesThe majority of deaths due to dogs comes from one genetic cluster. You can try to cheat and split it 5 ways to sunday to obfuscate what's going on, but when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter if you call them pits, staffordshire terriers, or any number of the other bully/bulldog breeds. What matters is you bred a terrier to a dangerous size and weight, you spent centuries reinforcing savage behavior in the context of dog/animal fighting, then you let niggers and spics get ahold of them in the last few decades and attempt to rework their temperament into being a guard dog that instead of being deferential to humans to a fault, is going to bite the fuck out of an intruder. Surprise surprise your dumb ass fucking dog acts like a schizo and crushes your toddler's head when a leaf outside rustled a way it didn't expect.The whole breed is fucked at this point due to irresponsible mostly nigger driven breeding protocols so it should simply be culled. It's not like it's an ancient heritage breed anyway.
>>540522082I'm gone save this!
>>540521968idk man, what else could it be, besides genetics?ok, it could be culture, but just like how blacks have gangster rap, Norwegians have black metal.
>>540521822This is also working on the assumption that crimes that don't result in an arrest would necessarily be committed by someone different, rather than by someone who commits multiple crimes and simply doesn't get caught.Plus, when we look at per capita, we have to see how these statistics could be skewed when applied to the entire population. Take two predominantly black areas, one with little crime, and one with a lot, but concentrate more of the entire black population into the area with more crime. If you're in a shitty, destitute environment like Compton with factors like gang activity, which is where many black people have been concentrated into, the crime rates in these areas are going to skew the per capita calculation to disproportionately represent itself as a general trend in the entire population. So, if you used that metric to describe the likelihood of being murdered in the safe neighborhood of black people, you would basically still calculate that you 6 out of 10 of them would be criminals.>>540521835Yeah, I'm not really against that part.>>540521929This isn't evidence that "the vast majority of niggers have committed violent crimes." Try again.
>>540521968>Majority of white people never owned slaves >Majority of niggers aren't brutalized by cops>Majority of niggers don't experience racism Why do niggers get to act like victims?
>>540522082Only a fraction of a percent of the 18 million pitbulls in the world have attacked humans, so the problem is not the breed itself, but the conditions in which they're raised.
>>540522465Yes but they just recently turned music into black metal. It's as if the aggression of the nigger manifested itself especially in Western music.
>>540522683>Only a fraction of a percent of the 18 million pitbulls in the world have attacked humansAnd that fraction of a percent accounts for the overwhelming majority of human deaths due to dogs. All other breeds are subject to as bad if not worse conditions. It's the breed. Terriers are for savagely chasing and killing rats. When you make them 5x the size with 15x the lean mass of their original bodyplan you're already asking for trouble. Nigger breeding is just the cherry on top.
>>540522683Just say the line nigger
>>540522558Yeah, you playing dumb or genuinely are dumb. TND!
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>>540522624As I've basically hinted at with my per capita argument, there are many structural reasons that led to the conditions black people currently find themselves in. Even though the majority of black people don't live in poverty, twice as many of them do as whites, and because this inequality is largely a result of systemic issues, many black people recognize that this is unjustified.Also, this also plays into the per capita argument I made before, but in a different way.Take 100 people and put them into impoverished conditions, which tend to drive up crime rates, then take 200 and place them into reasonable living conditions.Now, say 60 people in the former group commit a crime, while only 10 do in the latter group.If you group them all together, as racial statistics tend to do, you're going to assume that the group of 200 would have a higher likelihood of committing crimes than they actual do.So, there, that's a significant flaw in the per capita when you try to generalize the data to say that black people are inherently more violent.
>>540522683>the conditions in which they're raisedDo black parents in USA commit violence against their children like other parents in USA do?
>>540522833If it were the actual breed, then the percentage would much higher, which is why the general consensus is that it's largely due to environmental conditions, because yes, many people buy them and train them to be aggressive. If the percentage were, say, 50%, then I'd be more inclined to believe that there would be a genetic issue. But a fraction of a percent? That means that pitbulls are 99% safe, so it's ridiculous to assume that they're inherently more aggressive.>>540522915I don't know what this means, and I don't really care.>>540523045Not an argument. Disprove what I said.>>540523048Neat. /pol/ humor. So fresh and irreverent.
>>540523298>then the percentage would much higherIt's already over 50% of all dog related deaths, how much higher does it need to be?
>>540523168Many do, yes.What's your point?
>>540523347Are you genuinely suggesting that we euthanize an animal that is 99% safe because of human error?
>>540523061Don't doge the question niggerWhy do niggers larp as victims if there is no evidence of racism, hatred against majority of them?>So, there, that's a significant flaw in the per capita when you try to generalize the data to say that black people are inherently more violent.There's no flaw in the per capita According to the data niggers are more violentYou just don't like that conclusion for obvious reasons Crime isn't tied to a specific economic class but to corrupt behavior and low impulse control Rich niggers are also more likely to engage in white collar crimes than their white peers
>>540523401No I'm suggesting you cull the entire breed because of nigger malfeasance. Can you read?
>>540523359Violence, and even violence committed by the very ones who should protect you, ruins the life of a little innocent child.
>>540523414You seem to hate them, and there are many like you, so to say they don't experience racism is simply willful ignorance.>Crime isn't tied to a specific economic classThis is pretty much untrue. Poverty is well-documented to be a strong influence on crime rates.>Rich niggersThis is also untrue. In fact, financial crimes are disproportionately committed by white people.
>>540523298>It's da socio-economic conditions Would you justify white collar crimes by arguing that rich people engage in such crimes due to socio economic factors ?It's obvious that only people with the right socio-economic conditions are able to commit fraud, bribery, or money laundering.
>>540520861What's the common point with chiwawas and pitbulls? They are genetic abominations and have retarded masters.We can apply that to leftist, they let niggers shit their nigglets everywere in awe and complain that sane people are racist.
>>540523611>You seem to hate them, and there are many like you, so to say they don't experience racism is simply willful ignoranceGot it So you don't have any evidence of majority of niggers being oppressed/hated?
>>540523519So, because an infinitisimal amount of owners are irresponsible with how they raise a pitbull, every pitbull has to be killed, even though they pose close to zero threat to anyone?>>540523577Sure, but I don't really see what you're getting at.I mean I agree, but this just seems somewhat out of place judging by the tone of this thread, so I'm slightly confused.>>540523662Not necessarily, no, but socioeconomic conditions aren't the only influence of crime, but to say that they don't have any effect is patently untrue.
>>540522624because there's a very specific and insular group of 5th columnist academics, who intentionally stoke racial tensions in America, because they want to see its collapse.>>540522817in general, violent music provides a non-violent outlet for violent urges. it's actually a good thing.
>>540520203Blacks aren't people though.
>>540522558If it was just a question of the environment or hard conditions then why all other immigrants don't end up in such numbers in ghettos or prison in average, they certainly often are in way worse positions than the black Americans.
>>540523837>ownersBreeders. Who completely polluted the bloodline to the point that you cannot distinguish a harmless shitbull from one which might blow up in your face years down the line and kill you or your loved ones. Yes, those selfish (mostly nigger) breeders have created a situation that increasingly necessitates drastic action for the greater good. Shame on them.
>>540523769Yeah, I'm a cat person myself.>>540523827>blah blah nigger this nigger that where's da evidenceFor one, there's the wealth disparity that still exists. Black families are have on average 6 to 8 times lower wealth than their white counterparts, and this is due to structural disadvantages that are currently being addressed.
>>540523899Yeah. I thought British people were supposed to be funny. There's been three in this thread so far and they all come off as rather retarded.>>540523900Immigrants in the United States from anywhere, even Africa, are substantially less likely to commit crimes than their native counterparts.>>540523981>completely polluted the bloodlineOf 18 million?
>>540523995One more proof that you people are basically incapable. You always need extra treatment That's your general stupidity, the others, the system, the whites or who or what ever suits you best. It's never just you.
>>540524253Yeah, you can poison a whole well with only one drop of poison. .
>>540523837You're an hypocrite nigger The socio economic argument in a nutshell: "Poor people commit poor people crimes because they're poor" When applied to white collar criminals it goes like this: "Rich people commit rich people crimes because they're rich"This argument has no value whatsoever
>>540524284I'm white, but this isn't about receiving extra treatment, it's about removing the barriers that prevented equal treatment in the first place, but regardless, I'm genuinely curious if anyone has been able to find an error in my per capita analysis, because I'm on the cusp of finding it hilarious that deeply held crux in /pol/'s logic was so easily refuted by someone with no background in statistics.
>>540520203they got killed by niggers before they could commit those violent crimes
>>540523995>For one, there's the wealth disparity that still exists.>Gibs me dat Keep begging nigger >Black families are have on average 6 to 8 times lower wealth than their white counterparts, and this is due to structural disadvantages that are currently being addressed.Poor white people commit less blue collar crimes than rich niggers You have literally no counterargument
>>540524460>I'm white>per capita analysiswe
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The majority of OP's has never sucked a dick but they are all faggots
>>540520203Citing sources for numbers you qote?Personally witness a shitload more black people commit crimes vs white or asian. Hispanics though are right behind blacks. But id rather see source than anecdotal evidence.
you know, it's actually ironic, and tragic in its own way, that racial tensions in America got so much worse, AFTER the first black president.one would think that things would slowly get better, but no, they have been actively getting worse.
>>540524401Sure, whatever.>>540524456You're assuming that socioeconomic conditions is the only factor that determines crime rates, when they aren't.Rich people can also commit crimes like murder, but it's far more unlikely that a rich person will ever be arrested for a crime like armed robbery.>>540524551>Gibs me datThis does have some legitimacy. The white population benefited with wealth accumulation by limiting black access to economic opportunities that would've resulted in a even distribution.>Poor white people commit blah blahNo, they actually don't./pol/ is so insufferably dumb. Thank fuck you jabronis just circlejerk in your containment board.
>>540524871Why Chinese or other immigrants don't need "extra" distribution? Nobody but blacks?
>>540522833That proves they're better at killing. It doesnt prove aggression.
>>540524871>No, they actually don't
>>540524871>You're assuming that socioeconomic conditions is the only factor that determines crime rates, when they aren't.Curious how you never mentioned anything except conditions and factors How many times you mentioned conditions again?>Rich people can also commit crimes like murder, but it's far more unlikely that a rich person will ever be arrested for a crime like armed robbery.Maybe maybe it's not just the socio economic factors But that's my two cents >This does have some legitimacy. The white population benefited with wealth accumulation by limiting black access to economic opportunities that would've resulted in a even distribution.You wuz a slave >No, they actually don't.You seem confused Are you okay schizo nigger?>/pol/ is so insufferably dumb. Thank fuck you jabronis just circlejerk in your containment boardYou stand for nothing you're just a retarded nigger parroting what you hear on reddit
>>540525101There are numerous movements within various minority communities for economic and political restitution.>>540525130These are just homicide rates, when I was referring to street crimes as a whole.Also, the fact that the number goes down across the board with increased income should be a tell that socioeconomic factors do, in fact, influence crime rates.
>>540520203>If black people are more genetically predisposed to violence> why is it that the vast majority of the black population Tell me your IQ is around 90 without mentioning it
>>540525340>Maybe maybe it's not just the socioeconomic factors.I never said that they were the sole reason, but you believe that genetics are a relevant factor, when there's no evidence to support that.>You wuz a slaveNot an argument.>You seem confused.I am not.>parroting what you hear on redditI don't go to reddit, but you basically just parrot anything you hear on /pol/, so I'm basically arguing with a two-dimensional stereotype, and honestly, you've been the least interesting yet most aggressive interlocutor so far.
>>540520203laughably false premiseroughly 2/3 of male niggers will be convicted of a crime before they diehalf of those have feloniesthose are only the ones who were caught and prosecutedsewerslide, kike
>>540525420So what's the flaw you're attempting to demonstrate here, because the logic is basically "If black people are more genetically predisposed to violence, why does the vast majority of the population never commit violent crimes?"
>>540525619You're genuinely retarded, and these are completely bogus statistics.
>>540525718I didn't give you permission to reply to me, subhuman.
>>540525749I really don't need your permission to do anything.
>>540525545>I never said that they were the sole reason, but you believe that genetics are a relevant factor, when there's no evidence to support that.There's no evidence that majority of niggers experience discrimination Yet you believe in racism There's no evidence that the majority of white people are racist Yet you believe white people are racist There's enough evidence that niggers are racist against whites, latinos and asians Yet you don't believe niggers are racist >Not an argument.You're not entitled to anything >I am not.see >>540525130>I don't go to reddit, but you basically just parrot anything you hear on /pol/, so I'm basically arguing with a two-dimensional stereotype, and honestly, you've been the least interesting yet most aggressive interlocutor so farHow many times you mentioned the reddit argument conditions and factors?
>>540525545There are more arguments that support the idea that its entirely a question of race and predisposition of it. Why biological predisposition are never questioned like certain blood cells or melanin. Why should only violence and lack of impulse control be the only exceptions that have nothing, whatsoever, to do with race?
>>540520203Their existence outside of slavery, is intself, a violent crime against Nature.
>>540525545>there is no evidence to support itLol. Lmao. Crime stats support it. Observations of literally everyone earth supports it. Genetics isn't advanced enough to prove what everyone knows already which is blacks are more prone to violence. The topic is so heavily studied BECAUSE there is overwhelming evidence to support it. >still own slaves>still have cannibalism>every society they create is a violent shithole>everywhere they are violent crime skyrocket >phenomenon is CONSTANTLY observed and studiedEat shit, retard. Do you think you're talking about it right now because blacks being more prone to violence isnt something you have also observed? Go walk down the streets of some black neighborhood around dusk and report back. You won't because you know your ass get beat.
>>540525352>socioeconomic factors do, in fact, influence crime ratesnot as much as race >>540524654besides, culture and economics are themselves a product of race
>>540525867>There's no evidence that majority of niggers experience discrimination.Except there is, even today, from employment, to housing, to interactions with police. There's tons. You've just never seen it because you fester solely on /pol/, so you only see a narrow, diluted vantage point.>Yet you beliefs white people are racist.No, I really don't. I believe that many white people are racist, but not most. Many just don't understand the nuances of these arguments properly so rely on situations they experience in society where racial tensions are high, so they tend to receive a distorted impression of what's actually going on, which can lead to extreme forms of delusions in echo chambers like you see here that propagate myths like white genocide that appeal to disillusioned white people because it gives them a tangible face to direct their aggression, even though it convolutes far more complex circumstances.>Yet you don't believe niggers are racist.You have no idea what I believe.>You're not entitled to anything.What a copout.>seeLike I told the poo, these are just homicide rates, not general instances of street crime, and even then, due to the inherent wealth disparity, the "poor" whites still live in better conditions than the "rich" blacks.>How many times...Christ you try too hard to fit in on 4chan by calling things reddit, and saying nigger excessively. You're just a fucking awkward, edgy kid, and I feel kind of bad about myself that I've been entertaining you this long.>>540525920You do know that all humans share 99.9% DNA, and this .1% variation is not enough to influence genetic expression in the ways you consider to be significant, right?
>>540526687You do realize that .1% is the difference between a domesticated dog and a grey wolf, right? Totally different species, mind you.
>>540520203>If black people are more genetically predisposed to violenceThis is an objective fact backed up by genetics.>why is it that the vast majority of the black population in the United States have never committed a violent crime?Because they have committed violent crimes. IDK where you get the haven't.
>>540520203per capita, nigger.
>>540520654>In any given year, 95% percent of the black population will not be arrested for a crime.Proof?
>>540526687>Except there is, even today, from employment, to housing, to interactions with police. There's tons. You've just never seen it because you fester solely on /pol/, so you only see a narrow, diluted vantage point.Saying there is evidence is not actual evidence Try again >No, I really don't. I believe that many white people are racist, but not most. >Many just don't understand the nuances of these arguments properly so rely on situations they experience in society where racial tensions are high, so they tend to receive a distorted impression of what's actually going on, which can lead to extreme forms of delusions in echo chambers like you see here that propagate myths like white genocide that appeal to disillusioned white people because it gives them a tangible face to direct their aggression, even though it convolutes far more complex circumstances.Back to reeddit >You have no idea what I believe.>Muh reeddit socio economic factors and conditions >What a copout.You don't deserve gibs You should earn them>Like I told the poo, these are just homicide rates, not general instances of street crime, and even then, due to the inherent wealth disparity, the "poor" whites still live in better conditions than the "rich" blacks.>muh economic conditions again You keep saying it's not only the socio economic factors after i refuted your reddit argument yet you don't mention anything except muh socio economic factors >the "poor" whites still live in better conditions than the "rich" blacks.>Actually only niggers experience real poverty Can't tell if a troll or a schizo nigger >Christ you try too hard to fit in on 4chan by calling things reddit, and saying nigger excessively. You're just a fucking awkward, edgy kid, and I feel kind of bad about myself that I've been entertaining you this long.So you're an old nigger begging for redistribution of gibs on a chinese forum?
>>540523837I'm getting at children must be saved from violent parents - and from any other violent creature, of course.
>>540526687And, I think, we share more than 98% with almost all mammals and still we are whole different species and behave in many different ways. Chimpanzees are generally predisposed the more violent behavior than bonobos although they are the "same" species.
>>540527213>carbon based life shares many similarities Why is this surprising to people? Why wouldn't we share most of the same genetic make-up with everything else that has to survive on the same planet? Its a nonsequitur to bring up genetic similarities while ignoring everything else that comes down stream of genetic make-up like the cultures and societies we build or the behaviors we exhibit.
>>540520203Because humans in general are not very predisposed to random violence, so even being, say, 200% more violent than whites when whites (in example; not literal) 1 in a hundred whites commits random violence then for blacks it would be 3 in a hundred, still leaving the grand majority of either innocent.Howevet the point is individual cases can neber depend on statistics, that is like pretending you are safe from bear attacks because they are rare... while a snarling bear is charging at you.And since society requires a lot of trust based components to run at all that can become an issue very quickly, leading to assumptions for the sake of the safety of the individual.The only thing racistic is to treat people differently based solely on their color, not based on actual qualities; nobody pretends it is racist when you are wary around white drunks or homeless guys either; they often can't help it either, and are usually victims, but they are dangerous too.
>>540526482>Crime stats support it.No, they don't, but you're new, so here's the per capita argument deconstructed. Nobody in this thread has a sufficient response, but let's see what you have to say.Take 100 people and place them in conditions that exacerbate crime, then take 200 people and place them in conditions that are healthy.Now, the first group has 60 people who commit a violent crime, and the second group only has 10.If you were to combine the two as singular group, like we do with racial statistics, then you could erroneously conclude that if you were to interact with the people in the second group, then your likelihood of experiencing a violent crime would be higher than what it actually is, because the metric is distorted by the conditions of the first group./pol/'s per capita argument is a classic ecological fallacy. Group averages don't equate to individual risks.>all your greentextYou don't recognize how dynamic African nations actually are? Yes, there are still people who live in tribal settings, but, and >>540526504you. Pic related. A modern African city, rather than just some slum that I could cherry-pick in bumfuck Alabama to show how white people are completely destitute hillbillies.>b-b-but you've never been around black people.I've been around black people all my life, even angrily called one nigger repeatedly while I was homeless just to have him stare at me and walk away. My experiences with black people have largely been positive, even though there are certain instances, like seeing one smoke crack outside the library, that feed into stereotypes.
>>540527389Yeah, that's what I'm saying, I think. >>540527603I had no issues with niggers till they decided to turn to full blown aggressive show off nigger monkeys irl. Now I don't care for what fucking reasons ever the nigger is and behaves like a nigger! I'm not going to change my opinion about them as it's based on rl experiences. I literally want them all dead.
>>540527945Meh, opinion matters little when detached from reality, hence why most emotional angry people tend to be less dangerous than their less emotional counterparts.
>>540527857Anon, Australians were literally criminals. They were street rats, caught committing crimes, some of them quite severe like murder and robbery. Basically Britain was using Australia as their prison. Despite being literal criminals, Australians managed to build an advanced first world country on a fucking desert continent halfway around the world from everything else.Meanwhile Brazil is a tropical rainforest sith abundant resources, and it's an impoverished shithole running rampant with murder and wanton violence. What is the big difference between Brazil and Australia? It's the genetics of the people.
>>540528066Southern Europe and Brazil by extension differ in a lot more than just genetics.Faith, culture, wealth, politics (Australia always remained a colony, yet Brazil became the new centre of their empire) and so on.Then there is, as you mention, the climate and strategical situation which too differ significantly.I don't necessarily disagree with you, but oversimplification is too niggerish for my tastes.
>>540527857>my hypothetical scenario based on nothing debunks crime statistics.You aren't helping the stereotype that blacks are retarded.
>>540528207>different races create different societies and have different values while approaching problems differentlyThis isn't an oversimplification. OP is arguing that everyone will have equal outcomes if given equal opportunity which is demonstrably retarded.
>>540527857No way you posted shit built by chinks to prove that nigger shitholes are dynamic
>>540528377What other example would they have without bringing up some cannibal warlord from 10 centuries ago or the cannibal warlord from 10 minutes ago?
>>540527857>A modern African cityAfrica is getting literally trillions of dollars of welfare from the rest of the world, it's a massive sinkhole of resources. The rest of humanity is dumping resources into africa to try to build them up. China in particular is basically doing colonialism and building the crap out of Africa since gay ass liberals in western countries refuse to let a white country do that. You're posting some tourist island. >I've been around black people all my lifeI've been around them too. They commit wanton criminality, they have no sense of personal space and are extremely threatening. You have no idea what they're going to do next since they tend to act spontaneously without any controls on them. Extremely dangerous people. Your life is literally in danger just being around them, it's not a joke.>Group averages don't equate to individual risks.The average IQ of a black person in America is like 85. Like 1/3 of the blacks in big cities have a felony record. Even the most shitass trailer park does not have close to the same level of violence as a black community. They turned Detroit from the wealthiest city in the world into a fucking hellscape with collapsed buildings, where wild dogs roam and steal small children at night.
>>540528207Brazil got 8 million black slaves from the slave trade. The US only got 500,000 of them.
>>540527857Literally everything in Africa is built and paid for by Whites or Chinese and as soon as both leave it to the niggers, it will turn to a total shithole within a few years. Niggers are like retards which always need special conditions and factors created and maintained only for them by others for ever. That's an indisputable fact. You know, we know only the retarded doesn't. Niggers are the care patients of the jews and White folks gonna pay their care work with everything.
>>540528207>Then there is, as you mention, the climate and strategical situation which too differ significantly.Cope harder nigger Brazil is african tier when it comes to resources and biodiversitydespite that Brazil is known for crime and soccer This will also be the fate of USA once white people become a minority Australia is desert tier in comparison
Well, that's fucking annoying. That spam filter is a gigantic piece of shit.>>540528260You fail to see the point that the majority of crime in black communities is concentrated in areas of extreme poverty, so it skews the per capita statistic, so you're just retarded, gotcha.Regardless, arguing with the lot of you hasn't been all that enlightening, but after that spam bullshit I don't feel like rewriting everything, so I guess have fun raging at everything in the world because your beliefs are antithetical to reality.I'm sure you'll get those Jews some day.
>>540520375did you know third world backyard breeders bred pitbulls for their violence and chihuahuas were bred as their bait dogs? of course you know that, you are a third world subhuman that just happens to live in the usa after all
>>540520203The biggest invention cumskins made was per capita
>>540529455You have no arguments, you know that you are lying. You're wrong and time will prove it. It would need ages, centuries to lift up the common nigger to the level of a common White. But you (jew?) decided to push your lies for ever. Reality and truth don't matter, important is what people perceive as reality and truth. As Kissinger is alleged to have said.
>>540520203vast majority?1 in 3 black men have a criminal record
>>540521655every time
>>540530065Like... you wouldn't play Russian roulette with two bullets in the gun, would ya?
>>540529455Why is there extreme poverty? Lol. Its dey culcha because its their genetics.
>>540520203Yet somehow blacks as a whole being only 13% commit 50% of all violent crime including murder?!?Have you heard the racist term “Per Capita” where White devils use math and numbers to make up magic crime by black people?On an unrelated note the vast majority of Black Death’s are caused by gun violence.80%+ at the hands of another black….But we know that just White people in Black face!
>>540530065drug use and possession are not real crimes.
>>540531698Technically true. The only real crimes are murder, rape, theft, and assault. The rest is victimless/window dressing.
>>>/his/18625971What is all this though?
>>540525352.>>There are numerous movements within various minority communities for economic and political restitutionThis is no answer to my statement. What you say is: OH this, they do now too, because we talked them into all this shit, but I am not gonna answer this now. Because the answer would have to be, that Asians are way less prone to violence and are more capable and intelligent next to many other things.
>>540520203They commit crimes they just aren't arrested or convicted because it's impossible to jail them all. This is why TND is the only solution.
>>540531461Whatever, at least I don't have to respond to that retarded donkey kid again.>Why is there extreme poverty?There are many reasons, none of which point to genetics, or do you assume that wealth directly equates to intelligence, rendering Elon Musk the smartest man in the world?Wealth disparity does, however, influence crime, and statistics show that the reducing the income gap subtantially reduces the rate of crime.But again, you miss the point. If you have a group of 300 people, and 100 people are in crime-ridden areas, and this 100 people all commit crimes, it skews the per capita statistics make it look like the 200 people who didn't commit crimes are at a higher likelihood to commit crimes.>>540531614Per capita again.I love how /pol/ constantly regurgitates this shit as if it's irrefutable truth. You have no idea what the ecological fallacy even is, because nobody is willing to bring it up here because this a mindless echo chamber, which is why you all parrot "per capita! per capita!" instinctively.
>>540531808I want to add fraud to your list. no one likes to be scammed. but even without this addition, I'd love to live in a society, which quickly and efficiently addresses these four issues.
>>540520203>vast majority>doesn't know what cast or majority meansOP is a nigger and a faggot
>>540532448Environment has an effect but and that's even more important, not the environment makes the people, the people make the environment. Niggers will always create shitholes, one way or the other.
>>540532954>Niggers will always create shitholes, one way or the other.What do you think pre-colonial African civilizations were like?
