Can russia capture the blue area without having to fight for decades or suffer millions of casualties?
The blue Arena isn't what they wanted to begin with
>>540525158Perhaps the true objective was the friends they made along the way.
>>540525231Ziggers on /pol/ hardly count as 'friends'
>>540525158>keef was just a feintkek
Seems like globo homo is losing the propoganda war.Strikes on russia did nothingAgreement with serbia did nothing.Jews do not give a fuck and will steamroll ukraine
>>540525322>kek
>>540525158nice cope. they never even wanted a landgrab to begin with at all until the regime change goal completely failed and the boomer manlet was too stubborn to cut his losses, conquering the rest of ukraine would be required for the regime change you retarded faggot
>>540525968Not really. Once the barrier troops and nato mercinaries are killed off the ukraine army will kill every politician in kiev.
>>540525538How does your video change the fact that you're just copying?was keef a feint? yes or no?
>>540525538You literally rolled a thousand tanks towards Kiev and lost every single one of them
>>540525231They even managed to lose all their influence on hungary and serbia, lol.
>>540527920That was old junkThe good stuff is being saved for NAFO
>>540527095was the counteroffensyiv just in your head?yes or tak
>>540527920taking back crimea status?
>>540525322Yeah, just make that casualties number a literal second timer - very believable lmao. I'm as much for making fun of ziggers for denying Kyiv and regime change was their plan all along, but come the fuck on.
>>540529097I accept your submission.
>>540529252accept your humiliation first:^)
>>540529331>Several burial sites dedicated to mercenaries from the Russian Wagner Group have been bulldozed, paved over, or cleared of individual markers in Russia, notably in Nikolayevka (Samara Oblast) and near Yekaterinburgkek
>>540525968>they never even wanted a landgrab to begin withTrue. Putin wanted to force a neutrality agreement where all foreign military presence is banned, what would lift russian concerns about growing presence of amerimutts and anglovermin in the Ukraine.>boomer manlet was too stubborn to cut his lossesGoal hasn't changed, but due to sunk cost what comes with full scale war Putin needs some gains to present to his population.>conquering the rest of ukraineNever was the Putin's goal. Putin is not a man like that, he is small minded, shallow even. Any great, ambitious goals like that are too burdensome for him to undertake. Current russian regime never questioned the legitimacy of existence of hohol state. Never. Even in thoughts. Because they exist in bolshevik mental map, where existence of bolshevik republics(like the Ukraine) is sacred.
>>540525158Yes they air dropped into Hostomel just to get some fresh air.
>keev was a feintLMAO
>>540529402>kek
>>540529439dont get mad pidor ill post something funny
>>540525538>>540529127>>540529252>>540529331>"PEOPLE DIE... IN LE WAR!?"
>>540529452>we dont need the capitol to gain control>we don't need access to the black sea>we don't need combined arms>we don't need KEEF>we need copekek
>>540529546did you sneed donbas?you sneeded hard before 2022
lmao, it's the same retarded pidoranny seething in every thread.All day.Every day.
>>540524972Do they want to?Occupying the ethnically Russian Donbass filled with Russian speakers who are mostly friendly towards Russia is one thing, it's a completely different situation trying to occupy the western parts of Ukraine filled with hostile Europhiles who claim a unique identity and language.
>>540529615>you sneeded hard before 2022you seem to be projecting in this thread.kek, you got a melty, just because i asked if keef was a feint>The blue Arena isn't what they wanted to begin withHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>540529701Isn't it widely acknowledged that the purpose of pushing Kiev was to force a negotiated settlement, which the little jew was about to agree to until Boris Johnson convinced him he could win with western wunderwaffen?
>>540529701is that a nyet:^(why did you give upyou have the collective nafo
>>540529792So what exactly have the Russians achieved?
>>540529828:^)
>>540529873Why are you not at the front? Deflect or ignore if you're a gay jewish tranny
The fact that you keep running around /pol/ every day, searching for Ukrainian-related threads, seething and deflecting every time someone actually tries talking to you is so amusing, pidoranny.>soon>allowed
>>540525158>we totally didn't want Ukraine and Odesa as a launching point into MoldovaCope Classic.
>>540529806I think it's just jealousy that the fallen Ukrainians are being commemorated while Russian cementaries are being turned into parking lots.That says a lot about the country.You're basically setting yourself up for failure later on; no one will talk about you because your side will disown you.another huge victory for Russia.
>>540529828Annexing the Ethnically Russian parts of Ukraine who didn't want to join the nukraine after CIAniggers overthrew the Russian friendly President who they supported?
>>540525538KEKAROOO
>>540529963I dunno buddy I think the Russians might be leaving the whole "let's occupy a foreign country filled with hostile civilians" thing to you fellas.They probably saw how that went for you and decided to just stick to occupying the ethnically Russian parts.
>>540530000its 4 years later and russia still has no controll
>>540530132Oh well if they don't control it you can just take it back then can't you? What are you waiting for?
>>540530227Since 2022, there has been a draft in those areas.The very Russians that Putin supposedly wanted to save have died.I don't get the Russian Masterplan
>>540529975russia is more jealous of the ukranian bread
>>540530313let me explain:^)
>>540530313So when are you taking it back?
>>540530101Ukraine is not a foreign country and ukranians are basically russians, NAFO tranny. Now kill yourself.
>>540530314It seems that's the case.
>>540530314>>540530352Gay jewish tranny, I asked you a question >>540529933
>>540530352still waiting, for your explanation if keef was a feint or not?you just got a melty
>>540530381Yeah the eastern parts that Russia already mostly occupies, sure. The western parts are filled with a hostile population who consider themselves ethnically and traditionally different.
>>540530363me?why would i take parts of ukraine back.Can you just explain to me how Russia plans to establish lasting control?Will they draft people?
>>540530383no cap
>>540530415You got the explanation here >>540529792 which you were unable to argue against so you deflected to asking about Russian achievements.
>>540530479tell me more?
>>540530464The same way they're controlling it now.
No
>>540530504So what did they negotiate?attacks on russian soil?incursion into kursk?
>>540530415still waiting on counteroffensyiv update:^)
>>540524972If NATO doesn't send European soldiers to reinforce THE Ukraine, then no, then there will be some point in the future at which the front collapses and Russia will be able to stroll to KIEV.If NATO actually sends Euro troops then all of Europe will literally be depopulated in the gayest war of all time (GWOAT)
>>540530523of course
>>540530533so basically no controlRussia has been dipping into its savings for years, and its exports have plummeted, but I'm sure they'll manage to pull through somehow, right?i'm sure northkorean troops will save russia
>>540530624Once again - if they don't control it, then why can't you just take it back lmao
>>540524972Easy, but they're saving their strength. Once the ball rolls the baltcocks and fingolls are next.
>>540530595>>540530558You couldn't even answer a simple question.A yes-or-no question.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>540524972Russia got their lands back. The republics gained some territory and are being rebuilt. It will take time to restore a good normal life for the liberated lands due to decades of ukrainian attacks.
>>540530595i guess you like churkas
>>540530595Gay jewish tranny, can you not answer the question? >>540529933
>>540530595:^(
>>540529963Russia went through all of this just to get a bit of Moldova?
>>540530595
>>540530595:^(:^(
>>540530549You don't know about the negotiations?
>>540530595:^(:^(:^(:^(
>>540530790zamn you meltyhit a nerv ?one struggle:^)
>>540530595:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(
>>540530870:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(
>>540530870Why are you not at the front? Continue ignoring or deflecting to confirm you are a gay jewish tranny
pidor melty:^)be strong now sis
>>540530870:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(:^(
>>540530457Again, NAFO tranny, ukranians and russians are the same people. No amount of copium can change that, or your biological sex.http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
>The blue Arena isn't what they wanted to begin withHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>540530956Yeah cool but they consider themselves different, which is why occupying western Ukraine would be a bad idea.
>>540524972Paradox games have done irreparable damage to the minds of normies and "analysts" (see Mearsheimer) who think you need to physically invade and control every square km of your opponent's territory to force them to surrender
>>540524972No! That is not the russian way.
>30pbtid:^)
>>540524972maybe, but i don't think they're interested in taking all of it anyway
>>540530986four days? pff, putin would make it in two. if he wanted, of course.
>>540531223>Can't answer a yes/no question>get's a new ID to spam his copekek, 2 more weeks, am i right, sergey
>>540531294That Russian-nigger Cope is so ridiculous
>>540529792yes. nafotrannies are simply unpaid interns for consent manufacturers
>>540531012What sources do you have to back that up, NAFO tranny? Ukranians doesnt even want to fight russians and thats why they are forced to. So, culturally and genetically they are the same, they consider themselves to be the same and only high on copium NAFO trannies like you are trying to downsize the scope of the Russian World.
>>540529961why are you not in a trench? reported to TCK for draft evasion
>>540524972they just need to get odessa and separate Ukraine from the sea. Then sit back and wait
>>540531453Bro forgot to update his talking points since 2021
>>540524972
>>540531453>What sources do you have to back that up"Yeah so these guys who are currently fighting a war with those other guys and telling the world how much they hate them and how different they are, they think that they're different from those other guys">"UMMMM SOURCE????">"DO YOU HAVE A PEER REVIEWED STUDY TO BACK THAT UP?!??!?!" You're a bit of a weirdo m8
>>540531307>>get's a new ID to spam his copewipe away them tears sis:^)was the counteroffensyiv real or no because robotinyiv is under russia now and it doesnt look good for orikhyiv why couldnt the collective pride parade defend democracyiv:^(
>>540529662Whats wrong with this dude doesnt even sound like a shill more like mentally ill retard.
>>540531896Just a hunch, but I think xe might be a gay jewish tranny
>>540530833he knows, moreover he knows you know he knows. playing stupid and denying reality is how these alleged people operate
>>540531764It doesn't matter how much you try to make excuses.You can't even answer a simple question because you know full well that Russia has failed.
>>540531650>bunch of shit i just imagined to back up my retarded worldwiewThose guys this other guys that, who the fuck are you talking about retard? Ordinary ukranians? Ukranian government? Again, tranny, beside your sick fantasies we cant see a single case of ordinary ukranians considering themselves different from russians and resisting them. Regular ukranian army has laid their weapons a day after the SMO started lol.http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67851
>>540532171Odessa port status?Ukraine exported 85% of all goods by sea.How exactly are they going to get money to fund the war and thiet economy?Are all the port workers getting paid to sit at home for the last 3 weeks?Aug 20th will be a month since they got de-portified.
>>540532404At least Ukraine has one option for exporting something.I bet Russia can also get its gas and oil to India by land, right?
>>540532171no counteroffensyiv status?how bout krinkyiv:^)
>>540524972>Can russia capture the blue area without having to fight for decades or suffer millions of casualties?They're already half a decade in with a million casualties, so I'm going with "no".
I think what a lot of 4channers don't understand is that destruction is also good and sometimes superior to control. For example, the neocons don't control the middle east, but they destroyed it. The jews don't control the west, but they destroyed it.
>>540530787Mama Maia's pussy drive even the strongest man insane.
>>540532584The majority of Russian crude is shipped by pipeline. Tankers filling up in Siberia have zero issues. Russian crude exports profits were up 60% in July.Cope and seethe faggot
What a horribly boring and meaningless thread, much like russia's "war effort"
>>540524972When the war reached its first year I made 2 posts about the war in ukraine about why regardless the outcome Russia loses the war.First its economics and the depletation of the soviet stockpiles, Rusia has little economic gains in this war to offset the costs, on the other hand the depletation of the soviet stockpiles made Russia lose their mechanized forces, now its more like a WW1 scenario.On the other hand considering the amount of land being taken daily I did some calculation and estimating that Ukraine could keep its military effort, It could take Russia from 10 to 20 years to reach the dnieper and end the war due to the dnieper being a natural barrier that would block reinforcements.much has change but the analysis remains, both Ukraine and Russia are weak, with ukraine still losing ground, according to my calculations, the only way for Russia to win quickly is firing tactical nukes along the logistic centers of the dnieper followed by a mass assault all over the front-line, something easier said than done, mainly because Russia would need a mass mobilization and manufacture the military vehicles to do a blitzkrieg.
>>540531554If the russians had achieved a decesive 3 day smo they could've installed a puppet regime and hammered in the "brother people" narrative in school.But they failed and got stuck in a meatgrinder. Now ukrainians will hate russians more then the finns do
>>540525158Yes truez you didn't need it anyway ;)
>>540524972they captured the red area wich was an endless maze of fortresses in less than 6 years and while suffering 400-500k casualtiesso yeah, they can capture that flat indefensible land with ease
>>540533695Russia is stronger than everAnd already replaced the Soviet gear lost with modern gear, the west doesn't have industrial capacity we get that, but the east does so there's that
>>540533324what?>Revenue in July rose so sharply compared with the same month last year (July of the previous year) primarily because oil prices rose sharply due to the conflict in the Middle East and, at the same time, a special tax became due.>China and Turkey are the largest overall national destinations for Russian exports, followed closely by India and members of the European Union. Because Western sanctions shifted global trade routes, Russia now relies heavily on Asian and Middle Eastern buyers, with energy commodities remaining its primary export
>>540524972Going to be funny to witness the shock of Redditors once they realise the barely moving WW1 frontline did in fact unravel and collapse like a domino effect once theres no more resources to draw from, and this will be no different.The soil isn't doing the shooting, men and bullets are, but that's too hard to grasp for nu-/pol/ & shills don't want to admit it.
>>540533919You’re acting like they weren’t outside Kiev 1 week into the war, then pulled back into gay meatgrinder shit. Absolute embarrassment of warfare.
>>540534206WW1 was 4 years long…
>>540533695>depletationdepletion
>>540524972obviously not
>>540534002>russia is stronger than everOryx currently has 23,982 Russian vehicles and major pieces of equipment visually confirmed lost:18,957 destroyed995 damaged1,193 abandoned2,837 capturedThe armored losses alone are extraordinary: 14,148 armored combat vehicles, including 4,437 tanks, 6,473 IFVs, 2,437 other AFVs, and 737 APCs.Other visually confirmed Russian losses include roughly 1,044 self-propelled artillery pieces, 602 towed artillery pieces, 430 surface-to-air missile systems, 140 radars, 190 aircraft, 179 helicopters, 4,641 trucks/utility vehicles, and 36 naval vessels/submarines damaged or destroyed.Because Oryx requires imagery, the actual losses are necessarily higher. Entire destroyed vehicles disappear without photographs, especially behind Russian lines.Ukraine's own estimated totals are therefore much larger. As of today it claims Russia has lost 12,255 tanks, 25,116 armored fighting vehicles, 47,669 artillery systems, 2,019 MLRS, 1,558 air-defense systems, 439 aircraft, 354 helicopters, 132,236 vehicles/fuel tankers and 35 warships/boats plus two submarines. It also counts 452,994 operational/tactical UAVs, although mass-produced expendable drones make that category fundamentally different from tanks or aircraft.
>>540529331Why's the Ruskie posting in Germany?Too much of a bitch to sign it for that military?
>>540534261they were on the roads, they didn't take any citiesthey retreaded because Ukranda begged for peaceit was a diplomatic victory for Ukranda, not a military oneUkranda hasn't won a single battle in the field despite depleting NATO to the point that Iran and Russia can hit whatever they want because NAFO cucks have no air defense LOL
>>540534305Because the battles were far bigger so the resources and men got expended much faster, Verdun alone had more casualties than this entire war.
>>540534328Nobody cares about some soviet rustbuckets kekblitzkrieg it's not possible on a current battlefield against a fully armed country, get your mind out of the 40s
>>540525322This is a good video, you can see clearly where the invasion failed IMO. Day 25, the failure of the assaut on Mykolaiv. It is marked as a small red protrusion in theis webm. If that assault were not a failure, the encirclement of Odessa was remotely feasible.
>>540534427VDV was literally airdropped outside of Ukraine military bases and got beat back by 800 conscripts.The entire ordeal was a total embarassment for russia. they lost most of their best equipment and people by month 6.you're fucking stupid>>540534509you're fucking stupid go kill yourselfSos el típico boludo que confunde cinismo con inteligencia: ves una montaña de civiles muertos, ciudades arrasadas y secuestros de chicos, y tu gran aporte es hacer de abogado gratis del Kremlin. No sos “objetivo” ni “geopolíticamente lúcido”; sos un salame con Wi-Fi repitiendo propaganda rusa como si te pagaran en rublos.
>>540534206>WW1 frontline did in fact unravel and collapse like a domino effect once theres no more resources to draw fromNo it didn't you, germany surrendered because the allies landed in the balkans, the ottoman empire collapsed, the US entered the war and woodrow wilson promised a fair peace.The front didn't collapse.
>>540534552explain why NATOcucks are depleted immigrant cuck-sanRussia broke all the NAFOshart toys sent and now they can't play with Iran KEKEKEK
Why the fuck UN memeflag
>>540534552Hostomel was a Russian victory btw
nigga done changed his flag on me how embarrassing >>540534749Usé una IA para escribir esto porque sos tan poca cosa que ni siquiera merecés que me gaste en vos.
>>540534652The Ottoman Empire and Austrian front collapsed, and that is part of WW1, Germany was on the brink of collapsing and the 100 day offensive crushed a lot of their morale & heavy equipment, a few more months and they'd be done for.
>>540534763anyways, if blitzkrieg is so easy to pull nowadays, why haven't you done it against Iran?
>>540534916silence nigger
>>540534925>AI nigger can't connect dots with his peanut braincolor me surprised
>>540534965>why arent the americans bulldozing 2 million iranians like my hero big daddy putin?because we arent animals, you fucking retardseriously kill yourself, commit suicide.
>>540533695>When the war reached its first year I made 2 posts about the war in ukraine about why regardless the outcome Russia loses the war.On the first day, I predicted a Ukrainian victory... no matter how much they would lose and how much they would lose. After all, they defended their freedom™ and independence™, and territorial losses were only a small price to pay. Ultimately, it was the same story with Finland; they were supplied by all of Europe and the US, too, but then the front collapsed, the Finns ran out of power, and they quickly rushed to surrender territory and declared victory afterward.
>>540534328>oryx rofl. lmao
>>540535697this board really has turned into nothing but spiritually brown losers
>>540524972Yes, if they nuked Kiev and Lviv. But they’re not willing to send nukes, so no.
>>540525968So then why did they take land that in the north and east? They didn't want Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kiev, Kriviy Rih, Kherson, or Zapo but for some reason their armies tried to invade all of these cities? Why?
>>540529792Nope
>>540525158they already claim the blue areas without actually holding them and without anything to give in return except threatening to send more russians to die for land they can't gain or hold
>>540524972Yes. 20 nukes should do it.>>540535697
>>540534002>Russia is stronger than everlol lmao
>>540525231>the friends they made along the way.The serfdom of norfkorea is truly a great model to become for all russkies.
>>540524972I think 2022 proved russia won't exist much longer
>>540536098They didn't attempt to integrate the land into Russia until September 2022, the original plan was either replacing the Ukrainian government with a puppet while keeping it as small "breakaway" states like Donetsk and Lunansk, that failed so Putin decided to do a medieval land grab for land that will be a depopulated pile of rubble that gets droned everyday anyway if he manages to hold it.
>>540525158It was very clear in the beginning Putin said he would protect the Russian populations in the east. Looks like that is what he is doing.
>>540535889case in point, yourself. you can go back across the rio grande any time you like ramirez
>>540536635>single handedly gets more russians killed in meaningless conflict than any other time since end of ww2
>>540529252One of the all time greatest hits
>>540536552Putin invaded 5 days after Zelensky started shelling Donbas, faggot shill.
>>540536635>>540536837>protecting russians in the east by murdering eastern ukrainian civilians en masse and destroying their homes and turning their cities to rubble And they aren't even "russians in the east" you retarded beaner. The majority of eastern ukraine identified as ukrainian last time there was a census.
>>540529402>>Several burial sites dedicated to mercenaries from the Russian Wagner Group have been bulldozed, paved over, or cleared of individual markersoh this is just practise for the hundreds of thousands of graves they will have to plough under in the hohol cemeteriesdonbass best farmland next 100 years
>>540536969>ukraine was just shelling their own territory for no reason not shelling the vatniggers that already invaded 8 years later and had presence there
>>540536989Straight up lie faggot shill. And 8 million ukrainians choose to flee to Russia after 2014
>>540536989>The majority of eastern ukraine identified as ukrainian last time there was a census.wont be for the next one
>>540536969>>540537036very benevolent for russia to save the donbas!
>>540537036Sorry faggot.The land belongs to the people not the kikes on Kiev. They were called separatists and freedom from kikes fighters.
>>540537054lol where in your ass did you pull that from? there literally aren't even 1 million ukrainians in russia and most are kidnapped boomers forced to accept russian passport. So when are you going back to Mexico? I dont even believe you're a real vatnigger.
>>540537130>the peoplewhat people? they're all dead or in Europe now and putin has to rely on sending churki and jeets now that the white people in those territories are gone.
>>540524972Based on how desperate Ukraine is getting id say sure. South Vietnam had fewer issues when it collapsed. Happened fast.
>>540537089Oh no all those structures! The horror!
>>540537160So you here to tell rediculous lies.What a piece of shit you must be.Western media says 3 million, Russia says 10 millions, so its probably around 8.
>>540537036>>ukraine was just shelling their own territory for no reasonoh they had a reason, it was to kill all the civilians in donbasswould be nice if the polakos did that to their own people.
>>540537212So you came here to say the LPR/DPR is completely empty and nobody lives there.The current state of nafo troons
>>540537304>donbas population 2013: 7 million>2026: 3 million (near entirely baby boomers who can't leave their homes)>>540537273why was ukraine so bad at killing all their own civilians (for no reason I guess) until russia decided to attack (and fail at their goals kek)
>>540537428>why was ukraine so bad atbecause they are low iq subhuman niggers, just like you, amiright, my hohol faggot.
>>540537501so they're bad at killing civilians but capable of killing 1.4 million vatniggers? how does that work zister
>>540525158Then what were they doing attacking the capital at the start of war?
>>540537620keep dreaming hohol nigger loving cocksuckerkeep learning polish, or until they send you back.. to die.>>540537722>Then what were they doing attacking the capitalthere was no resistance, hohols are really bad a t war
>>540537428>nobody lives there>well people live there but they cant leave the houseSo the pics of people on gas lines is AI fakery?
>>540537907it's 3 million retired pensioners after 4 million working people left to Europe and ukraine you retarded faggot
>>540538186*rest of ukraine
>>540537873why are you fantasizing that I'm ukrainian as if they're the only ones who support ukraine? you know you contrarian vatniggers are a small minority of virgins who clearly have no friends right?
>>540538255>I'm ukrainianyes i know you are a subhuman low iq nigger loving cocksucking hohol waste of spacego back and die, faggot
>>540538683you have never had sex ;-)
>>540536445you guys have been saying that for at least 4.5 years. anyway why are you hiding in poland? reported to TCK for draft evasion
>>540537241yeah and all the dead people under their homes you shitskin
