She admitted that Russia is corrupt and “oligarchic” and expansionist and that Putin is ruthless but STILL said the primary cause for the war in Ukraine in NATO expansionism and America is mostly responsible for the war. It’s like a brain virus
>>540529261>DSA: stop giving billions to Israel >also DSA: stop giving billions to UkraineHoly based!
>>540529261But that's entirely correct
>>540529261cold war boomers will hang in nigger hell for all of eternity.
>>540529570>memeflag has third-wordlist opinions An unexpected twist >>540529630How can you admit that Putin is evil but still blame America? This is literally schizo politics
>>540529835the same way that i can admit that hitler was evil but that jews were to blame for the holocaust.
>>540529261You indulge inconsequential thinking here: The corruption of predatory jew oligarchs in Russia is inconsequential to NATO's culpability in this conflict. Just as your stinky feet are inconsequential to the stupidity your post.
>>540529261The DSA is all communists who think current Russia is still the USSR and that Stalin will rise from the grave and give us that kind of authoritarian communism. Their only goal is to destroy the US and bring about third worldism for everyone with infinite brown immigration. They like the idea of politics of no translation, where they just say things that sound good "medicare for all, money out of politics" but with no real solution to implement them, they only care about destroying the US.
>>540529981The irony is that she says Russia is capitalist and isn’t the USSR but she STILL clearly sympathizes with them and shills for them
>>540529938Russia is a force for evil but they would only ever fight wars to protect themselves, eh?
>>540529261>>540529835NAFO troon thread
>>540530546because perestroika was a deception.all major russian companies are like 50% state-owned at least
>>540529261Once you realize the DSA works for the CCP everything they do makes a lot more sense.
>>540529835>How can you admit that Putin is evil but still blame America?because America is more evil? not that hard to figure out, faggot
>>540529261Please ti back to Red hit you are to gay to post here
>>540529261>gotcha interviews with a random personThat one of a DSA chair who couldn't properly define taxes showed what they're about and can't be handwaved away.
>>540530546They are all just backed by Russia/China who feel the main leverage they have against the US is retards inside the US. they will never call out boomer communism which is what is actually destroying the US, If we just stopped funding the military, it's only like $1 trillion, meanwhile we are spending $2 trillion already on medicare, medicaid and ACA, which is about the same as the entire EU spends on healthcare. We spend more on interest than we spend on the military. The memers who say we are poor because of the military are retarded, but it's even more retarded to back the DSA who want to increase the funding for the massive welfare state WITHOUT even plugging all the holes in it that get it scammed at all levels.
>>540529261>She admitted that Russia is corrupt and “oligarchic” and expansionist and that Putin is ruthless but STILL said the primary cause for the war in Ukraine in NATO expansionism and America is mostly responsibleYeah that's true
Oh look how curious: every commie troon is a shill for RussiaBut I thought Russia was le based and redpilled and trad
>>540529261All of this is true though?If NATO was serious about Minsk II instead of treating it as a pause to rearm, or if they didn't support Maidan to begin with, there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine right now. A lot of blame to throw around for this tragedy.>But Putin is evil and wants to expandand Westoids supporting a coup-installed government riddled with neo-nazis made it a lot easier to convince Russians to go along with doing that.
>>540529261who cares, they are the only ones radical enough to send thr trump family the way of the romanovs. for that reason alone im voting for them
>>540529261There is simply no metric where Russia is an oligarchy where Europe and North America aren't worse so it is a moot point.
>>540531672Why are you full of shit? I thought the reason why Putin invaded was that the donbabwe children were genocided?
This war could have been avoided by telling the Ukrainian oligarchs (who are basically an Epstein class in Eastern Europe, hurray!) and political leaders: "sorry, but if you join us, Russia will invade you. So keep your distance from us."This would have avoided the war, and thus avoided the cutting off of Russian gas/oil to the German industrial base, which Europe was relying on for competition with China and the USA. Of course, the US has benefitted from the severance of Russia from Germany, so it's fine for them.SAD.
>>540532077What is «us»Also pretty sure Russian oligarchs are all kikes and Trump the guy who killed Epstein love Putin and hates Ukraine
>>540531561Russia is the child porn capital of the world lel
>>540532833Okay. Release the files though, island bro.
>>540532931Ask PutinHe’s the owner of Trump
>>540530908>NATO are the Good Guys alliance, chudOh my heckin voldemort why didn't I see it before
>>540531546>boomer communismCan you admit it's the jews, anon
>>540529261But she's right? Ukraine has been trying to get into NATO for years which would allow the US to build military bases which may or may not house nukes just a few hundred miles from Moscow. Now imagine if the shoe were on the other foot and Iran/Russia/North Korea/China attempted to build military bases in Canada or Mexico, how do you think the US would respond?Bear in mind that WW3 nearly started when the Soviets sent a handful of nukes to Cuba in response to the US sending nukes to Turkey.
>>540533211>how do you think the US would respond?Operation Northwoods. The US government planned to commit terrorist attacks on US civilians and lie about out it with the mockingingbird media to blame Cuba.
>>540529261>the primary cause for the war in Ukraine in NATO expansionismWhere's the lie? Does any serious person doubt that if NATO's eastern border was still in central Europe, that there would be a war in Ukraine right now?
>>540533183It's partially the jews, but that oversimplifies it to a retarded degree and gives the jews too much credit, it's much like communists saying communism never worked because the CIA is all powerful and always made communist countries collapse, the CIA could have been a catalyst for some collapse, but they were already headed there because of a multitude of reason. All the social programs get scammed at every level which is why the US has been bleeding money for decades despite constantly pumping money into these social programs that get stolen from constantly, which almost no repercussions. All the DSA wants to do is just print infinite money, not prosecute or look into scams that have been making these programs fail, and open the borders so the world can use these programs as well, and yes they are motivated by jewish bolshevism but allowing them to exist is entirely the fault of US population.
>>540533623Jewish bolsheivism moved from the USSR to the US
>>540529261I don't give a shit about Ukraine or Russia. They can do whatever they want. I want cheaper groceries, I do not give one shit if Zapdoslavia invades Shitterglobton.
>>540533183Ot's actually women, kikes are a problem but no one has enabled kike control more than women voters
>>540529261>Russia is corrupt and “oligarchic” and expansionist and that Putin is ruthlesstrue>the primary cause for the war in Ukraine in NATO expansionism and America is mostly responsible for the waralso truehow are these contradictory statements?
>>540533858Presuming you’re not a communist, why would you defend Russia if you know they’re evil and have killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians?
>>540530546maybe just doesnt like jewish wars?
>>540529261Russia is going to overrun Ukraine anyway. Ukraine is a jewish dictatorship that literally kidnaps tens of thousands of men off the street to force them into an unwinnable war using American-jew AI technology, imports millions of third worlders from Africa, Pakistan, and India to replace the dead, and for what?Nothing. This was a good lesson, a painful one, but a good one. Nationalists need to guard against being gaslit into illogical irredentism. Ukraine failed that shit test and now they don't have a country.
>>540535094The problem with democracy is that the average person really cannot hold a complex thought in their heads. If an idea is constructed from more than at most two concepts, then the masses really cannot understand it and will actively fight against understanding it.My comment was that there is actually no contradiction between the two statements. To understand what I mean by this requires some nuance- how can Russia be ruthless, corrupt and expansionist while at the same time the US and NATO expansion is mostly responsible for the war? To even begin pondering this requires some level of comfort with analyzing multiple contrasting ideas in parallel, which low IQ people are not capable of. Instead, you have to reduce the conversation to a simpler level at which they can understand and participate in it. And so they see some complexity and shout, "You think America bad? You communist!? You no think Russia evil???"Yes, yes, A side good, B side bad. Am I speaking at your level now?
>>540530546Tankies are often driven by aesthetics and memes more than an actual ideology, they like that about the USSR and have to defend them at every turn.
>>>540532077Also israel got to take out syria while russia was busy in ukraine
>>540529261>can't understand greater than/less thanmaga education from rural appalachian village in west virginia
>>540529261This is the future, just a downward spiral to the bottom and a shitton of corruption
>>540529835i dont know who DSA is but the memeflag has a fair point schlomo, seems logical to me
>>540529835>This is literally schizo politicsAnd yet it's the truth.Reminder that the US is responsible for the peace offers being rejected.
>>540536022They’re a communist group in America
>>540529261It is exactly that. You can't be a socialist after a century of dozens of failures taking hundreds of millions of lives like it was nothing and be right in the head.A small subset of very young zoomers could plausibly claim ignorance simply because they haven't yet had the chance to learn about socialism/communism's histories but that window passes by the time you hit ~15-16 imho, after that there's just no excuse with today's access to information technology.Even if you're the most info-bubbled TikTok-addled loser, it would only take you downloading an actual non-malware app like a browser and reading even just wikipedia articles and/or their sources or literally any halfway decent writing, you should quickly learn how socialism/nazism/communism killed hundreds of millions and in repeated campaigns across the world with zero regard for human life whatsoever.
>>540529835>still blame AmericaBecause the only reason zelenskike is in office is the CIA. You natofags are completely delusional
>>540532977>putin owns TrumpAh yes, yet another case of schrodinger’s Russia from you natofags
>>540535094>they’re evilYou cultists have a child’s view of the world
>>540539016Ideology is a meme. The fact that China is ascending to world power status unopposed proves this under a fascistic/socialist hybrid system, whereas the much more capitalist and democratic state of India is a comparatively stagnant cesspool.Quality of population is what matters.Unfortunately for the US/Europe, the liberal capitalist system we blindly defend is the same system flooding our countries with third world filth, decreasing our population quality, dragging us down into the third world.It's gotten so bad that USA, what used to be perceived as the undisputed world power, is losing a war that we started to an impoverished second rate regional power run by theocratic socialists.
>>540529261If she wants to go the "America started the Ukraine War" route, she can at least be honest and admit that Clinton gave Ukraine an empty promise in return for nuclear disarmament.THAT is why any of this is happening.
>>540529261>foreign policy is when you suck jewish cockWhy are miggers like this?
>>540530546The DSA and lefties (not dems/liberals) are looking towards Russia and China for a way to put the troon genie back into the bottle without working with the dems who want the same thing, because they're doing it fashly. It's been baby steps so far to attack their infection points, like refusing to take a stance on Collective Shout nuking their games, or using Act up and Code Pink to attack kink (but primarily Fetlife associations) at Pride, using weasel words like "fantasy pushing" to imply being rapey without actually USING the word. Notice how the DSA stance on troons is a very generic>THEY EXIST AND WE SHOULD LET THEM HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTHCAREand that's it, nothing about giving them free reign to keep doing what they do. It genuinely pisses hardcore DSA types off that the popular face of actual full-Communism-now socialism includes people like the Wachowski's, who are absolutely the polar opposite of what the DSA wants (poly, kinky, pro-prostitution, judgment-free sex enjoyment), but has to deal with, because after Trump part 1, a bunch of people started screaming>dood join the DSA instead if you liked Bernie!!!!something that said hardcore DSA types hated, because in their eyes, Bernie was a grifter appropriating socialism, and his fans were a bunch of horny kids and teens who say things like>sex work is work!!! let people enjoy things!!!!outnumbering the sexless Dworkin/Solanis types who refuse to let communism get sexy like dems/libs did, with the men falling in line because they really want pussy. It's the same shit that's keeping them from making any official endorsement of Hasan, because being a John means you're just a rapist in the cool leftist utopia
>>540529261Its just self hatred.These people seem to think that just admitting responsibility for something absolves them of any responsibility to change it.
>>540532077What are you talking about? Ukraine was always going to be invaded by Russia. The question was whether Europe was fine with Russia engaging in the largest landgrab since WW2 or not. Europe decided that is preferable for Ukraine to exist as an independent country than to be subjugated to foreign occupation.
>>540539844What qualifies as evil to you?
>>540529261>communist shills for communist countryWow what a shocker
>>540529570>also DSA: kill all White peopleYou're a third world shitskin so of course you think that's a good thing.
>>540540466>Europe decidedI'm pretty sure Ukrainians decided that. Now they are close to deciding they want to be done with this. Interestingly enough, Zelensky's recent rhetoric mirrors the opinion polls, having offered to meet with Putin to negotiate a peace deal. Ukrainians have shown a remarkable amount of political agency since the fall of the USSR with their Orange Revolution, Maidan, and the politics surrounding this war. Russians of course can't stand this, so every popular political movement in Ukraine gets attributed to Western meddling.
>>540544119Forgot picrel. -50 percentage point swing in support for the war from 2022 til now.
