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Did anyone else go from Christian -> Atheist -> Christian Nationalist -> Agnostic?

I feel the Christian revival movement is very temporary if you have an IQ of 120 or above.

Logically, agnosticism is best position, and the Bible is a mishmash of translations, mistranslations, and bias for what books were included/not included.

Youtube Edits of Jesus make you Christian. Any serious study of Christian theology makes you agnostic.
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>>540536457
hello Moshe
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>>540536457
Not a Christchud but I went from puranic hinduism (bhakti) to advaita, then to strict Vedic theism, then going to Mimansa
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>>540536457
Drop the A and you're on the way
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Nope I will never worship a jew under any circumstances
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>>540536571

I personally believe that Christianity is the easiest to convert to Agnosticism because the fundamental theology is so subjective and up in the air

hence the literal tens of thousands of sects. I'm not a kike but I don't see the longevity of Christianity as a unified cultural force into the future.
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>>540536457
religion is cringe
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>>540536457
Gnostic > Agnostic
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>>540536457
you can't be an adult and believe in jewish chosen people. literally room temperature goy iq
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>>540536603
FUCK OFF POOPJEET YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE
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>>540536676
>>540536755
Advaita/Gnosticism are larp theologies. Extremely good.theoretically but meaningless in practice + has weakness in that you can always attack them to turn them into pseudo buddhism
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>Christian revival movement
Not a real thing. There's a consistent downward trend in religiosity unless you import new believers from the brown world. Any slight deviation in the trend is blown up by the same guys making clickbait vids with titles like "x fights back!" and "enough is ENOUGH".
>30% of christian zoomers become atheist or agnostic in a year
>10% of atheists convert to christianity in a year
>dude we're bringing it back!
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>>540536712
>only christianity has sects
retard
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>>540536883
Go drown in the ganges
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>>540536949
And most of those that "convert" only do it to fit in with their religious friends.
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>>540536953
Christianity has more sects than Islam, Hinduism, or Judaism

I have a friend who is very Catholic, but his mindset is kinda like how you replied

He lacks nuance and takes any data in super absolute ways.

>You say this is hard? So you're saying it CAN'T be done?!

>You're saying Christianity has too many sects? So you're saying no other religion has sects?!?

So... like 100-110 IQ logic processing.
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>>540536457
Christian -> Atheist Agnostic -> Christian
Not sure how I can go back to Agnostic. I believe it's quite clear that morality is real, and it's not relative. Some things are good, some things are bad. I don't think the bible is 100% accurate, it's an approximation. And I don't know or care if God is an entity or an abstraction. I think people confuse our image of God with what the image represents. What it represents is obviously real to anyone who believe in right and wrong.
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>>540536457
I went from
Catholic (as a child) -> agnostic (18) -> militant atheist (25) -> larping as a catholic but secretly mega atheist (30’s)
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>>540537525
>I believe it's quite clear that morality is real, and it's not relative
I don't see how religion helps make it not relative. Instead of using your subjective opinion of right and wrong, you use your subjective interpretation of which Bible verses to take literally.
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>>540536712
>as a unified cultural force
christianity has been a divisive force within europe since the schism, endless wars and petty squabbles for centuries
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>>540536457
christcuckery is a bunch of nonsense. if god is eternal, people who came before history had a higher chance of getting it right. if we're limiting ourselves to what we know about today, deism or buddhism are probably the most sensible.
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>>540536457
Christians are people who've been born again of the Holy Spirit, it is impossible to fall away from faith if you've indeed been born again. After all, once you recognize the Truth, everything else is immediately exposed as a deception that serves only to distract from God.

There are many people who call themselves Christian, but have never experienced the salvation necessary in converting a non-Christian into a Christian. As a result, there is no such thing as a "former/ex Christian" as such people were never Christian in the first place. They wore the title of Christian despite never being Christian to begin with.
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>>540537221
>Christianity has more sects
Incorrect. There is only Christianity.
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My position -> Eliminate the jews -> Eliminate the jews -> Eliminate the jews
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It worked huh
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>>540536457
"He is immeasurable light, which is pure, holy (and) immaculate. He is ineffable, being perfect in incorruptibility. (He is) not in perfection, nor in blessedness, nor in divinity, but he is far superior. He is not corporeal nor is he incorporeal. He is neither large nor is he small. There is no way to say, 'What is his quantity?' or, 'What is his quality?', for no one can know him. He is not someone among (other) beings, rather he is far superior. Not that he is (simply) superior, but his essence does not partake in the aeons nor in time. For he who partakes in an aeon was prepared beforehand. Time was not apportioned to him, since he does not receive anything from another, for it would be received on loan. For he who precedes someone does not lack, that he may receive from him. For rather, it is the latter that looks expectantly at him in his light."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nmHymgM7Y&list=RD4Ysg7d1bjQ8&index=13
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>>540539710
Eliminate the jews.
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The world should be run by women and trannies. That's what happens.

In Gnostic cosmology, Adonaios does not belong to a biological "race," but is instead classified as an Archon—one of the seven planetary rulers or celestial wardens who govern the material world under the Demiurge (Yaldabaoth).

Nature: An androgynous cosmic ruler born from primordial chaos.
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>>540538782
>Eliminate the jews
Hey, that sounds antisemenic.
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And all these, with the race, that came down, flee from him who had fled from the throne to the Sophia of hope, since she had earlier given the sign concerning us and all the ones with me - those of the race of Adonaios.


Avril Ramona Lavigne was born on September 27, 1984, in Belleville, Ontario. She was named Avril (the French word for April) by her father.[2] Lavigne's paternal grandfather Maurice Yves Lavigne was born in Saint-Jérôme, Quebec.[

Gervais was born on 25 June 1961[9] at Battle Hospital in Reading, Berkshire.[10] Gervais's father was Lawrence Raymond "Jerry" Gervais (1919–2002), a Franco-Ontarian of French Canadian descent who grew up on a farm in Pain Court, Ontario near Chatham, Ontario. Lawrence immigrated to the UK while on foreign duty during the Second World War.[11] He worked as a labourer and hod carrier[12] before he met Gervais's English mother, Eva Sophia (née House; 1925–2000).
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>>540536457
If you would willingly align with and worship the evil god of the Bible if you believed that it were 100% true, then you are a Christian even if you do not believe it.

You've already given up your morals if you would willingly worship and align with such an evil god.
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And all these, with the race, that came down, flee from him who had fled from the throne to the Sophia of hope, since she had earlier given the sign concerning us and all the ones with me - those of the race of Adonaios.
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>>540539822
Eliminate the jews?
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/pol/ is a lot like a run down inner city. We even have schizo street preachers.
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>>540539905
The God of the Old Testament is SAKLAS
The ruler of this world is SAKLAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gsDBuHwqbM&list=RD-gsDBuHwqbM&start_radio=1
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>>540540008
The New Testament god seems just as evil as the Old Testament.

no conscious viewpoint should ever worship anything. and especially not be threatened with hellfire for not doing so.
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No very early on I made a decision on the evidence and accepted my decision and i haven’t reversed it because I am immune to low level political bullshit psychological warfare.
>Bible is a mishmash of translations, mistranslations, and bias for what books were included/not included.
This retard 101 elementary school talking point exposes you as a “Christian theology” larper and definitely significantly below an IQ of 120. We straight up have the original Greek eyewitness testimony of Jesus with citation to the original Aramaic scientifically dated to the lifetime of said witnesses and the scholars are extremely forthcoming and honest about what is considered later additions. There is zero confusion in regards to what the gospels contain.
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It's SAKLAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gsDBuHwqbM&list=RD-gsDBuHwqbM&start_radio=1
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>>540536457
Great reddit spacing, godless faggot. So how low is your IQ then and what serious "research" did you do? What books did you read? Name them. Show me how you reached the false conclusion that Christianity is false. Documented facts and logic only. Good luck.

Have you ever read and understood the Bible? What book in systematic theology did you use?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8&list=RD4Ysg7d1bjQ8&start_radio=1

Jesus said, "Truly I say [to you], this baptism [which they've received in] my name […] will destroy the whole generation of the earthly Adam.
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>>540538080
The rabidly anti-Christian atheist ape and stupid brown immigrant and atheist tranny, literally, from Antirasistisk Senter (Anti-Racist Center, Norway), is here again. Unable to speak or read any Norwegian
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>>540540457
retarded paranoid nigger apekatt
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>>540536457
I figured out Santa was fake when I was around 5 or 6 because physically gifting every child presents in one night is logistically impossible. What make you think I ever fell for the dead jew on a stick scam?
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It is a pure, sinless, holy Lamb. It was perfectly "potty trained", etc. etc. It will be worshiped as God because it is God

"Her priests have profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean."

Leviticus 10:10: "And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8&list=RD4Ysg7d1bjQ8&start_radio=1
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>>540540182
>The New Testament god seems just as evil as the Old Testament.
said no one ever
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>>540540510
Team Tel Aviv monitoring /pol/ is here again, with their ususal lies

>>540540579
Ah, the literal homosexual Satanist with a double-digit IQ is here again, refusing to say if he has any Sami blood. Too stupid to ever formulate an argument, knows nothing about Norwegian history or culture. Smoking weed and playing video games all day long, wathing gay inter-racial porn and posting anti-Christian garbage on /pol/. When did we have peace in Scandinavia EVER when pagan faggot? Tell me. What is the default position in paganism, war/strife/raids or peace?
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Todd McFarlane likes baseball

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8&list=RD4Ysg7d1bjQ8&start_radio=1
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>>540536457
I went Roman Catholic -> Agnostic because to say there isn't a god as an atheist does is retarded.

Then to Christianity and now I'm leaning back to Catholicism.

I think atheist are retarded and should just be merged into Agnostics as there's no definite proof that god does not exist.
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"And afterward was revealed a whole multitude of confronting, self-begotten ones, equal in age and power, being in glory (and) without number, whose race is called 'The Generation over Whom There Is No Kingdom' from the one in whom you yourselves have appeared from these men. And that whole multitude over which there is no kingdom is called 'Sons of Unbegotten Father, God, Savior, Son of God,' whose likeness is with you. Now he is the unknowable, who is full of ever-imperishable glory and ineffable joy. They all are at rest in him, ever rejoicing in ineffable joy in his unchanging glory and measureless jubilation; this was never heard or known among all the aeons and their worlds until now."
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>>540540774
Leser ikke ditt shitzo paranoid fjas
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>>540536457
No, because I don’t believe things on the basis of vibes or fads. I’m a Christian because I felt the hand of god in my life and I don’t need to justify it beyond that. History bears witness
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>>540540903
>paranoidE
Learn basic Norwegian. Learn to spell, deranged, gay Satanist.
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>>540541005
lmao ta vare på deg selv kompis
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>>540536457
no im 141 iq. i went from athiest to Christian Nationalist. never seen a compelling arguement for taking pagans or "spiritual not religious" faggots serious.
The Bible is objectively true and translation issues are skill issues. you can literally just teach yourself ye olde greek and read the original new testiment. but then you would understand how useful the multitude of translations is.

i understand the midwits desire for an easy to digest answer to spirituality, but it conflicts with your desire for something more complex, dont it?
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>>540536457
Islam -> agnostic
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>>540536457
Theistic Satanist -> Atheist -> Orthodox Christian
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>>540540457
i think you are right! i have seen this creature around here before.

>>540540579
post skin or leave this place
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>>540536457
Lmao I can tell by your limited understanding that your IQ is not 120+ so you really shouldn’t have an issue.
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>>540541482
I have nothing to prove to you americani
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>>540541270
im really happy for you bro.

>>540541226
that is a huge step up but dont get too blackpilled on religion. there is truth and beauty to be found.

i really mean it when i say truth, the only reason islam had any success propagating itself is because it piggy backed off of the real and historically verified events in the bible.
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>>540536676
Gnosticism makes a lot of sense when you study the Bible. The character of God in the Bible is seemingly bipolar. He is a all powerful, creative God who loves His creation. But then he is also a petty, angry god who seems to enjoy killing. These two parts cannot be reconciled.
Jesus said that whose who have seen him have seen the Father. They are aligned in character: Jesus loved everyone. He healed. He wept for the dead. He never killed. Jesus also said that nobody has seen the Father. There are many cases in the Old Testament where an individual has seen god, from burning bushes, to a monstrosity that breaths fires and destroys. So, it is logical to guess that the jews who wrote the old testament confused a lesser god with the Father. It was common belief at the time of Jesus that jews worshipped a donkey headed god. The graffiti mocking Jesus depicts Jesus with a donkey head for this reason. Some believe Yahweh was a desert storm god (Set or Seth, who also had a donkey head).
If you follow the Bible and take the Old Testament at its words, the athiest reduction of events is mostly accurate.
>I must sacrifice myself to myself because the laws I made require it
But it doesn't make sense. What makes more sense is that somehow, something that is not the Father has gained power over the world, corrupting everything in it. It is under this law, not the Father's, that we face death.
Jesus lived the life we could not and died the death we owed so that we might be free.
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>>540536457
I went Christian -> atheist -> Shintoism.

As much as I admire the Christian heritage (because it has produced an incredible amount of positive good for the world), the Christianity of today is total clown show and perhaps I could even accept that if Christians didn't have this weird denialism about it. Watch as they attack me for paganism while the pope kisses the feet of black immigrants, blesses an ice cube for climate change (totally not a pagan thing to do, just really looks like that), and tells the world to accept a trillion Africans. No Shinto priest ever told me or by extension, Japan, that we ought to do this because racism or whatever.

Christianity has a major problem with self reflection. They're so sure of their own correctness, so confident in the infallibility of the church's structure, they will curse the pagan while their religion is made a mockery freak show by their own leaders. Curse me for Shinto if you wish, but ask yourself which religion takes itself and its civilization more seriously
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no I wasn't an indecisive male faggot that couldn't decide whether to be a dickless freak in drag or a freak with a dick in drag.
Always was and always will be a Christian eco-fascist "extremist", nothing extremist about wanting to cull all pajeets and chinks if only to save the planet from their constant waste dumping into the oceans.
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>>540542499
your first mistake is not starting with christianity begining as a personal relationship with God.

there are people who are bad at being christians, there are corrupt institutions who larp as christian, and there are bad things done in the name of christianity.

none of that undermines the objective truth of God and the fact that the Bible is true.

if you are placing church structure on the same level as God then you are not worshiping God, you are denigrating him to the level of a human institution.

i will always make fun of pagans for being retarded though. you make fundamental mistakes in identifying even what Christianity is. you put yourself up against a complete straw man, so ofcourse you dislike "christianity".
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>>540541868
the amount of mental manipulation Christians have to use to justify or navigate their own theology is a major reason it will progressively vanish. You're already acknowledging that the premise of it is silly and are coming up with a personalized interpretation to make it make sense.

This is also why Christianity has tens of thousands of sects.

I dislike islam a lot because they punish leaving it with death and it's very backwards, but I believe Islam will continue growing because it's more logically consistent than Christianity with what it believes.

The quran is very literally word for word what their prophet said, in the original arabic, whereas the Bible is this big stitched together piece narratives that are translated and retranslated throughout time
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>>540541664
The mere idea that there is perfect all knowing and all powerful entity that cares so much about what some microscopic creatures think of it is hilarious. I don’t know how I believed this shit in the first place. There are of course many other logical contradictions and unreasonable teachings that make religion (at least abrahamic religions) to be extremely unlikely to be true.
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>>540543974
there is not a single contradiction. go ahead and present one if youd like.

God sees (you). and he cares for (you).
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>>540536603
Everything associated with Hinduism is garbage.
You're only coping by sticking to it because you're desperate for something from India to be relevant. And that's pretty subhuman and already discounts any drivel you post here
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It is a pure, sinless, holy Lamb. It was perfectly "potty trained", etc. etc. It will be worshiped as God because it is God

"Her priests have profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean."

Leviticus 10:10: "And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean."
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>>540536457

Try dmt
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>>540536457
Every single "influencer" who pushed Christianity these past 10 years has suddenly started shilling nonstop for Israel. That should tell you all you need to know.

And they all seethe nonstop if you mention being anything except Christian. Whether it's atheist, Buddhist, traditional European religion, whatever.
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>>540543849
I've gotten a lot more out of Shinto than I ever got out of Christianity. I also feel like my prayers are actually heard as well. My personal relationship with god (Christianity-wise) has been growing up in an abusive situation for most of my life and being bullied by my peers at school while the Christians around me lead happy, prosperous lives. Saying I felt left out in the cold is an understatement.

My relationship with him aside, even if I don't put the institution on the same level as I put god, why is it made such a mockery on such a pervasive and high scale? So many priests, a bunch of popes, lots of Bishops, the important people who ought to be closest to god in earthly life all appear to be clowns in a circus. It's no strawman. Just look at the priest of Canterberry. The average modern church in the west looks ugly and sterile. I'm sorry but if god allows this to befall his faithful, he's no god I'm interested in venerating. But if Christian ever acknowledged this for even a minute, they'd be in danger of self reflection. They'd have to admit that perhaps, maybe, possibly, the Church needs to really unfuck itself quickly before it dies in the rancid muck of modernity.
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John 1:17 says: "For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ".
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>>540536457
My religion revolves around the tonal frequencies and reverberations of this world and beyond.
Keep your loud notes, they're not important in the grand scheme of things.
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>>540536457
>Did anyone else go from Christian -> Atheist -> Christian Nationalist -> Agnostic
christians and atheists are polar opposites
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>>540536457
>the Christian revival movement is very temporary
it is only the anti-christian whites that are going extinct
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>>540536457
>if you have an IQ of 120 or above
the scientists in your science books are christian
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And all the matter of the archons, as well as all the begotten powers of the earth, were shaken when it saw the likeness of the Image, since it was mixed. And I am the one who was in it, not resembling him who was in it first. For he was an earthly man, but I, I am from above the heavens. I did not refuse them even to become a Christ, but I did not reveal myself to them in the love which was coming forth from me. I revealed that I am a stranger to the regions below.
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>>540536457
>Logically, agnosticism is best position
the agnostic position is that you don't know
so why are you here kvetching?
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>>540536603
you literally worship demons
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During a mission in Botswana, Wynn grows tired of Simmons' increasing sense of morality. As a result of this, Simmons' friend and partner Bruce Stinson (codename Chapel) is secretly hired to kill him. Simmons is burned to death and sent to Hell.[23][24][25] Making a deal with the devil Malebolgia, Simmons agrees to become a Hellspawn. After swearing to serve Malebolgia, he is allowed to see his wife Wanda one last time. Malebolgia returns Simmons to the living realm with a severely burned body, and a demonic guardian named the Violator.

Simmons, now a Hellspawn, returns to Earth with a lack of understanding of his previous identity. He wanders in a state of confusion with only vague memories of his former life, including his own name, his marriage to Wanda and the fact that he was once deceased. Spawn occasionally experiences painful flashbacks and eventually remembers his deal with Malebolgia. Using CIA files, he tracks down his wife and finds her married to his former best friend Terry, with whom she has a daughter named Cyan. He realizes five years have passed since his death.
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>>540536681
jesus's Y chromosome comes from the father
and he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)

>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"
- John 48-49

he's not "a jew", he's god
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>>540536730
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>>540536755
in bulgaria, the gnostics were known as bogomils
they were expelled, because they mocked the god of the physical world, by having gay sex
in france they were known as the cathars, and were crusaded against
in england, they were the origin of the term buggery / sodomy, in reference to their bulgarian roots

trinity in the Old Testament
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvE5E9BImE4
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp92-3aBL-A
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
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>>540545151
Hitler was related to Albert Einstein. Those of the race of Adonaios
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>>540544068
-god is all knowing
-god is all powerful
-god created humans
-god knew every single human’s future when he created them
-god had the power to create them to have any future he wants
-god chose a future for them where they get evil and end up in hell
So, the question now, why would he judge people for something he chose?
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>>540536761
>"jews are god's chosen people"
- "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,” meaning One, who is Christ."
- Galatians 3:16

- "Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones."
- Matthew 3:8-9
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>Isn't religion dumb goyim? Surely you don't want to be dumb!
You people are so fucking boring it's painfull.
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The idea that normies could read the Bible and have any clue what they are looking at is retarded. Imagine the kinds of people you are in traffic with trying to read Joyce.

The Bible contains some moral truths, some lessons, sure. So do children's books.

Unlike children's books, the Bible is essential to understanding the trajectory of history, the development of Western Civilization, the moral framework adopted either explicitly or implicitly throughout the growth of our society, not to the metaphysical framework accepted by many people. It is, without comparison, absolutely required reading by any thinking person. Of course, it requires a lot of background material and context just to understand properly.

One of the most important realizations for the new student is: holy shit, people have been reading this literature and coming to the conclusion "oh, I am the main character in this story" for thousands of years. Absolutely terrifying.

> The people who run the modern day program of international zionism, and the nation-state we call Israel?

100% Main character. Yep. God picked you and yours specifically to be the protagonist. What a coincidence, you lucky guy. Did the Hebrew language and people actually die out long ago in antiquity, and was resurrected by a group of autists in medieval times, who also decided that they were the main character? And some small portion of your "in-group" is tangentially related to these LARPers? Yes, and that basically means you are the descendant of magical sorcerers and demigods and God prefers you, and every other group of human beings on Earth are sort of like garden bugs. Occasionally useful, annoying, disposable.
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> Christian Doctrines: Catholic, Ortho, Etc.

No, we are actually the main character in the story, but for real this time. The Lost Tribes of Israel refers to me. Jesus nerfed the old, punitive system of cosmic retribution with one that is much more user friendly, and easier to market. Now there is an open door to God's Kingdom, we must only follow the rules, which are extremely clear. Wait, are the rules extremely clear? Don't worry about it kid, I'll show you everything you need to know to access absolution for your crimes on Earth, and guaranteed immortality. Just step into my office...

> Islam

No, we are actually the main character. In fact, we got a personal visit to explain that everyone else is LARPing, but we are actually the main character, and God is quite disappointed with the rest of you bumbling queers. In the sequel, it was explained very directly that there will be no other claims about who is or who is not the main character, the ruling is final and there will be no further rulings.

> Modern Protestants

It means, like, whatever you want it to mean, bro. Like just ask yourself what it means, and whatever mental diarrhea you experience is probably a crystal-clear message from the Architect of the Universe speaking to you personally. Is sexual misconduct and the institutional genocide of unborn children OK? What do you mean? Are you the main character of the book? In that case, you don't really have to worry about complicated stuff like moral philosophy, you're good. Na, na, you're fine bro. Mostly we just don't want to make people uncomfortable about anything, and keep the donati- I mean, we want to spread the Gospel, I guess. Can you pass the deviled eggs? Did you know I work for the local car dealership? I've got some 0% manufacturer financing on deck for you dude, hit me up.
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>>540545428
This is retarded.

Western Civilization is the way it is because white people have larger brain volume and larger frontal lobes.

You might as well say Buddhism is why Japan is advanced.

The highly subjective personalized interpretations of both religions are side effects of higher genetic IQ and the direction IQ takes civilization's direction towards.

It isn't the cause.
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>>540536457
> Christian Nationalist
These are mutually exclusive
Also there is no such thing as "Agnostic" unless you explicitly believe in a man in the sky you are an atheist.
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True, and what did they do with that larger capacity for reasoning, survival and civilization-building?

They created cultural technology, a unifying system of explanations and directives that could be efficiently propagated. They went to work, using their brains, to create institutions and prescriptions for imparting moral philosophy, guiding pro-social behaviors like community, in-group selection, a management system for mating that rewards K-selective patterns, monogamy and high child investment. Downstream of the framework for moral reasoning, you even get the proper use of lethal interventions: if God is with us, who can be against us? If we follow the word of God, and he has blessed us and our families, why would we be afraid of war or even death?

Everyone understands this already. Well, everyone who can count higher than their number of fingers and toes. Our religious institutions are adaptive evolutionary technology.

> The highly subjective personalized interpretations of both religions are side effects of higher genetic IQ and the direction IQ takes civilization's direction towards.

I can't agree. Everyone else gets a subjective, personalized interpretation too, it's just a much dumber one. Instead of creating scholars, inventors and pioneers, they are the main character in a version of the story that was written by an imbecile. Instead of arguing about universal truth and how to promote human flourishing, how to align faith and works, how to denounce superstition and reach inescapable truths, they mostly argue about their sand barbarian version of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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> It isn't the cause.

You will find, I didn't say it was "the" cause. However, for us to understand what is going on in the minds of human beings through the trajectory of history, our own history especially, and the minds of human beings today, we must understand the literature which has governed their moral and metaphyiscal internal worlds.

For example, would it surprise you that high-level strategists at the Pentagon, who were raised in Christian / Evangelical environments since adolescence, are steadfast believers in Christian eschatology? What would you be willing to do, to serve God? What if someone presented you with "compelling" evidence about supernatural events or places within Greater Israel? Are you prepared to do what is necessary to fulfill your obligations to The Greater Good?
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not quite
christian > atheist > started visualising cthulu when I think about god > results
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>>540536457
>Christian -> Atheist -> Christian Nationalist -> Agnostic
I think if you’re that undecided, you don’t really have a clue. I’ve been atheist all my life. Maybe i become religious at some point if i get new information, but it’s unlikely going to happen.
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>>540536457
The bible made me think jews are evil
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pagan whites were killing each other just fine before christianity
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>"he took possession"
>"he could not"
not only will most versions accurately translate this as "they", as in, the people
but even the few ones that translate it as "he" do not capitalize "He", as in, to reference God

meaning,
God was with them, thus they were able to take possession of the hills.
but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plains (yet) due to their own human errors.
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>>540536457
Its not high or low IQ its autism. Autistic people literally do not have souls, they cannot feel the touch of god. Ask a christian why he believes and it is because he knows in his heart the truth. Ask a autist and he says he believes religion is needed as a stabilizing force to better cement societal control or some stupid shit.
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Buddy, it doesn't matter how fast a computer is if the inputs and outputs is actual garbage.
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>>540540306
Based Levi putting this fagnostic in xir place
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>>540547648
>please use nuance and my preferred interpretation when discussing my texts, but I won't do same for yours


Your god got his peepee sucked by a rabbi during his bar mitzpah


Yahweh essentially takes foreskin of his own son lol
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>>540536457
>Youtube Edits of Jesus make you Christian. Any serious study of Christian theology makes you agnostic.
This is the retard claiming >= 120 iq
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>>540536457
No I went from Christian -> Agnostic -> Christian -> Agnostic -> Pagan -> The Creator/ The All / Gnostic.
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>>540536712
Meh... You seem to think ALL muslims practice.Or ALL hindus practice. They don't. Just like not ALL Christians practice but they do identify there as.
Ashkenazi are just in it to screw the world over. They've taken on so many forms that today we just call them jews. They practice 100% of the time or they perish due to their piss poor behavior here on Creation.
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"my personal relationship with God is being abused by people who are not God and then pretending like somehow they are actually God."

you are viewing everything completely incorrectly. you may have grown up in a christian themed household but you do not know God.

humans do bad things sometimes.

another critical error in your thinking is that priests and bishops are somehow closer to God than a believer. people have been burned alive for saying that madness. it is completly contrary to what the bible teaches. this is a dead giveaway that you didnt learn the actual doctrine but rather a perversion of some sort.

grim
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karmic religions have an evil doctrine , but 'believe in me or burn in hell' doesn't sound any better.
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there is no "metzitza / baby dick sucking" in the old testament. this is from the talmud
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'believe in me or burn in hell' is arguably more evil than what was done in the old testament.

also forcing conscious viewpoints to exist in a fragile world full of suffering and with a damnation test atop all of that. It is a heinous notion.

The unborn soul did nothing to deserve this. The unborn soul is more innocent than God. In the Christian worldview.

I do not believe Christianity. But if it were true, then the only moral response would be to rebel against such a disgusting god.



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