americans unironically believe this lolas in no joke, wholeheartedly, this is god's honest truth in their minds. lmao. rofl
I remember that post.I'm still waiting for him to demonstrate that hypothesis is valid, though.
>>540559349How would Elon ever mke money without government handouts?
>>540559450To be fair i do thinm i read something like this happen and the millionaire didnt fare much better than an average person. Its mostly a combination of having the right heritage, idea or recources + a shit ton of luck and then slowly increasing your wealth exponentially. I wouldnt go as far to say all millionaires are only lucky, because without hard work nothing will happen, but luck is a huge factor.
>>540559349Nah just delusional normies who want to deny most rich people come from rich parents and family who help them get rich along the way.
>>540559349Also a rich Youtuber tried this and failed miserably. He gave away his money, sold his stuff, gave money away and started off as homeless with nothing to blog the whole thing...Dude was stuck being homeless for fucking years apparently afterward, he stopped the whole YT channel and we don't know what happened to him.
>>540559349This is true for young money rich who grinded for their money, but not old money who inherited it.
>>540560222This is absolutely not true of any rich.It's almost entirely luck based, the right person at the right place at the right time; and in the case of modern day billionaires they're entirely nepobabies and products of government corruption.If you drop some random asshole in middle of Ethiopia and expect him to come out as king of the jungle instead of having his head caved in you're delusional.
>>540559349>air drop billionaires into 3rd world countriesFantastic idea, let's start right away.
>>540560475>luck based, the right person at the right place at the right timeWhy do you discount actual hard work of people who often grinded for years to start their business?Like, do you genuinely not know any business owners? They often work 60 hours per week during the first few years to try to make things work.
>>540559349It's bullshit of course but you also want your children to take care of things while still actualizing their own paths so it's more like- don't be born broke to apply a higher percent chance of a fixed monetary success path, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMiNoVRUd4Q
>>540560475winning the lotterly is luck, becoming a billionaire is nothow would that even workdo you understand how hard it is to build a succesful business, you dog?
>>540560005Yeah I forget the name but I recall the guy giving up like halfway or 2/3 into the 12 or 18 month spread he claimed it would take.I can think of a few billionaires who could probably pull it off but it'd have more to do with their experience manipulating the system, they'd know where to go and who to fuck/fuck with to get certain jumps back into familiar territory where they cam use and abuse legal loopholes and the like.
>>540560550>Why do you discount actual hard work of people who often grinded for years to start their business?Because John Q Public isn't hitting a billion dollars by waking up at 5am and heading to the homeless despot to purchase some lumber to build decks.>Like, do you genuinely not know any business owners? They often work 60 hours per week during the first few years to try to make things work.I know plenty, how many do you know that are rich instead of middle/upper middle class, you retarded fuck?I suppose if you've lived life in a trailer and see someone with a truck that costs 160k that they're leasing it seems like they're rich.>>540560742Then why isn't every intelligent, hard working person a billionaire?
>>540560475its not, its both hard work and luck, you need to be skilled in something and be lucky enough for the market to value it at right timethey didnt make money just by being a lazy slob
>>540559349The vast majority of our millionaires are not self-made and were born into it. So no. You airdrop them in Africa with $5 they'll be dead in a week.
>>540559349You drop an Australian anywhere in the world and he becomes a plumber
>>540559349We should take all their money and do that. Frankly, not doing it is robbing the wold of wealth creation and innovation they're so good at!
>>540559349I am pretty sure the most likely thing to happen is some 3rd worlder is going to beat up or kill that billionaire for his 5$.
>>540560845project blue beam them, have aliens show up in the night and tell them to give away their wealth and go do it again, whichever way they can, in some third world shit holes full of brown people, enjoy the suicides, it can be like a poor man's hunger games.
>>540560005>To be fair i do thinm i read something like this happen and the millionaire didnt fare much better than an average person. Its mostly a combination of having the right heritage, idea or recources + a shit ton of luck and then slowly increasing your wealth exponentially. I wouldnt go as far to say all millionaires are only lucky, because without hard work nothing will happen, but luck is a huge factor.>>540560766>Yeah I forget the name but I recall the guy giving up like halfway or 2/3 into the 12 or 18 month spread he claimed it would take.>I can think of a few billionaires who could probably pull it off but it'd have more to do with their experience manipulating the system,Yeah the guys own rules were he couldn't use his contacts as a multi millionaire, but then instead of sleeping on the street he is sleeping at his multi millionaire friends house, and flipping furnature to them. All for him to make like 78k a year which was bad in his area.
>>540559349Utter shit, every billionaire are nepo babies that came from rich families before becoming rich themselves
>>540560803>its both hard work and luck, you need to be skilled in something and be lucky enough for the market to value it at right timeYeah dude, the current billionaires are well known for being skilled (in bribing politicians) and utilizing their already existing familial wealth to generate more.How many self made billionaires do you know of? Do you actually look into peoples histories to see how much these people lie?Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Taylor Swift, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg all had wealthy parents(in the case of jeff, his stepfather) who used their positions and money to rig their children into coasting for the rest of their days.This isn't some random dude with the grindset opened a mom n pop shop and managed to grow to a multi-national chain rivaling walmart, it's entirely crime and government preferential treatment as of the last 30 years.
>>540559349Maybe with $10000. Maybe if he had $500 and a cell phone with service. This nate fisher guy is a dumb fucking goy.
>>540559349America is like a Soviet Union but with a money printer that prints world reserve currency. It's why this stupid propaganda.
>>540559349thats a lie, they made an experiment like that & it failed miserably—jews are parasites who need a white functioning white society to leech off of—
>>540559349I knew people like this who would talk like this while they worked at the family company and just coasted, relying on their dad the owner to turn a blind eye to them slacking off and fucking up. of course if anyone asks they got where they were thanks to hard work and did it all themselves.
>>540560785Intelligent hard working people will always be well off. 99% of the time.
>>540559349most middle class people, who wage from sunrise to sundown, effectively serfs, cannot bear to imagine that the overwhelming majority of wealthy people are only wealthy through luck its much easier to delude themselves into thinking "if i work really hard..."temporarily embarrassed you know the drill
>>540561645That's great but not what I asked you flaming faggot.
>>540559349I do believe it for some people. Even Billy Graham said that some jews are satanically empowered to succeed.
>>540559349Let's put this to the test.
Are we talking about people's looks
>>540561645there is no positive correlation with intelligence and wealth
>>540561250Half of those are imbeciles in at least one dimension, where they’d be considered special needs in fair assessment
>>540559349I honestly believe that if I was a billionaire and you dropped me off with five bucks in a shithole I would find a way to access my billions too.
>>540561802if theyre lazy then nootherwise of course
The business elite do "work hard," but so much of it is wasted on the great race to the bottom of capitalism. They tend to have this single-minded on accumulation giga-striver personalities which is why they amass hundreds of magnitudes more wealth than they could ever hope to enjoy for themselves just to reinvest it for more capital growth for the sake of growth. Picrel book about Hoover demonstrates this pretty well I think, how he used his talents to go from basically running slave labor mines in Australia, to organizing genuine miracles in humanitarian aid for Belgium during WW1, to being an autistically devoted to maintenance of private market forces for his presidency which ruined his reputation. They all drew from his skills and personality, but really only one of them was any "good."My point is in a better system, these kinds of people could have their natures directed towards more socially useful endeavors. They should be used as capital organizers, not the ones in charge of it.
>>540561703"why doesnt every highly intelligent person win the nobel price"guess its just pure luck thenyou retarded commie
Because elons fat pale spongey face and body would definitely signal him as being not a laborer
>>540559349This informs the way people votePeople actually vote with the idea in their mind that they are forcing the next generation to become people who could do this with $5
>>540559349You can drop me into a third world country with $5 and within 2 minutes of finding a bank I'll be a millionaire too.
Wahhh I'm so hard done by I just can't win. What do you mean save and invest instead of buying plastic figurines, don't you know the conspiracy will crash the markets to 0? Now I am angry wahh wahh I am stuck here in this trailer i am hard done by and oppressed
>>540559349It's mindblowing how most of this thread accepts OP as this being something impossible to achieve. Everyone here underestimates how socially malleable thirdworlders are and how easily you can grift off vast sums of money from them with little to no physical exertion from your part. Are most billionaires just nepobaby midwits that can't earn a living when left to their own devices? Yes, but that doesn't stop the fact that any person with sufficient pattern seeking skills can use that to aggregate profits from gullible sub-70 iq shitskins in any type of market.
>>540561250>Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Taylor Swift, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg all had wealthy parents(in the case of jeff, his stepfather) who used their positions and money to rig their children into coasting for the rest of their days.Famous coasters and good for nothing loafers, these peopleThe mind of a white nigger, ladies and gentlemen
>lol
>>540559349Isn't it crazy that jews want to silence epstein discussion so much they ruined the entire board?
>>540559349With $5(m)
>>540559349Okay, so, how do families lose prominence even after multiple generations of cultivating rich-people-characteristics? The Kennedys, for example.What about premodern prominent people? Did noble families not have rulership traits? How did nearly all monarchs get cucked?
>>540559349Man, India must be busting at the seams with these genius millionaires.
>>540562421>Update: this poster was raped to death by niggers
I know of a guy that made a million, lost it all and returned to poverty, made it back again then got diagnosed with a terminal illness. Some people are simply destined for boom and bust lifestyles.
>>540559349HehDrop a billionaire into a country with a tipHe walks out a millionaireWhere did $999 million go?
>>540560766>>540559349>>540560005The story you're thinking of was Mike Black. He basically started his adventure by getting rid of his cell phone and his wallet so he had no money and couldn't call anyone. He was homeless for the first couple of weeks and then started hustling. He ended up giving up 2/3rds into the first year, but he came out of it with 70,000 to his name. Not a success, but still not a complete failure. It did break him, but that's pretty impressive, and I doubt alot of people would've even had the balls to try so kudos to him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMiNoVRUd4Q
>>540560005Protip: a fuckton of money can solve ANY problem, ANYWHERE. Of course they do better than most. Reduce that person to $5 and cut them off from assets and they are made for rape in the 3rd world. It's just that simple.
>>540559349now imagine being an obsessed chink.
>>540559349this stupid shit again...>and within a few years people will forget he existed because he'll be dead.living in a constant state of delusion must be nice.
>>540562663>and then started hustling. He ended up giving up 2/3rds into the first year, but he came out of it with 70,000 to his name. Not a success, but still not a complete failure.You're forgetting the fact that he didn't have to pay for food, housing, utilities, and was able to use his connections.>homeless for the first couple of weeksHe was homeless for a few days before he got in contact with a friend who wasn't using his penthouse.It's really not that impressive that someone who knows people can utilize them to make money. You know, the thing rich people already do.
>>540563109Well at least he had fun
Why does dropping him in a third world country cause him to slowly lose $999,999,995.00 usd if he uses the 5$ to call his lawyer to send a pickup
>>540560176>Also a rich Youtuber tried this and failed miserably. He gave away his money, sold his stuff, gave money away and started off as homeless with nothing to blog the whole thing...>Dude was stuck being homeless for fucking years apparently afterward, he stopped the whole YT channel and we don't know what happened to him.The guy managed to make something like 50-60k his first year solely because he lucked out and someone GIFTED him a truck which he used to handle his entire business. 10 months in he got hit with a critical illness that would have laid him low for months and he gave up. So no, the millionaire got bodied by the exact same forces that wreck normal people.
>>540560475>entirely luck basedyou will always be poor because you will never even trydo you think some newly rich guy did it by spending all day jacking off and shitposting on basket weaving forums?
>>540564430Go become a billionaire, champ.Prove me wrong.
>>540559349The boomer mentality they equivocate wealth with how good and competent you are as a person. It is an absolutely disgusting mindset.Before I was wealthy these types wouldn’t bother listening to anything I would say and now I am wealthy I can tell them any bullshit and they take it as gospel
>>540564507>rich means billionaire now>didnt answer the questionarent you a little goal post moving faggot.you cant even get close if you never try retard.
>>540564862What does rich mean to you, jackass?Because whenever I ask this question I get hit with some room temp nigger who says something that qualifies as upper middle class.You, I presume, are another 4chan multi-millionaire who retired at 38 after starting a successful retail arbitrage business; yes?
>>540564084The question is; did said Youtuber (whoever he is) come back onto Youtube and use his platform to say he was wrong? Or did he pretend nothing happened?
>>540564992>What does rich mean to you, jackass?well certainly something before $999,999,999.99 is rich right you fucking dumbass lmaoyou dont have to be a billionaire to be rich"rich" is pretty subjective, thats fair, but its somewhere before a billion, thats for sure.either way, you will always be poor because you will never even try because you're a bitter little faggot.>You, I presume, are another 4chan multi-millionaire who retired at 38 after starting a successful retail arbitrage business; yes?na i got "lucky" because i tried (with crypto kekkkkkkkkkkkk)
>>540565364>i gambled and now I'm richAwesome, glad you proved me wrong by utilizing your blood, sweat, and tears to work your way into winning the lottery.Room temp IQ nigger.
>>540565438well if that didnt work out i'd be running a plumbing company still, so basically you're wrong again faggot.meanwhile you'll be here forever crying about the mean ol rich peoplestay poor nigger.
>>540559349If you air dropped them into 3rd world countries they'd be captured and held for ransom
>>540559349Leftists are scum. They’re the same as heroin addicts and worse because they destroy all of society, not just themselves.The USA has far more socialists and communists than people would like to believe. Especially amongst the youth. The vast majority of Americans under the age of 30, including those posting on this board, are communists and supporters of Zohran Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists of America. Communism is a resentment-based ethos that culminates in anti-heterosexual, anti-white, and anti-male sentiment in the modern day, just as in Marx’s day it was predominantly a Jewish anti-European doctrine. Nearly every American is a leftist and self-hating white, who support illegal immigration and the destruction of white America.I don't think most white Americans, especially those who like Trump, realize how much leftists, progressives, and many liberals hate them. It's a joke to them and many of them aren't even entirely serious. It's a lot of visibly angry dumb guys yelling or laughing about things. They don't realize how much they're actually hated. They legit think they're Nazis. They fantasize about genociding Southerners after the Civil War. A lot of MIGA tards just want White leftists to be pro America and shut up. Leftists don't want the same. They want white people dead. They want their kids to suffer. They don't realize leftists are seething with hatred and they're not these little harmless dorks. They're unhinged people. It's not a joke to them. They're savages.
>>540565679>my business didn't make me rich but it surely would be if I hadn't won the lotteryYeah sure, whatever.
>>540561697The main problem is if you are waging from sun up to sun down you are lacking in free time to make yourself more valuable ie. your money multiplier. You are better off probably being a bum on the sidewalk and reading books for a year and then attempting to enter the work force as slightly skilled labor by lying about your experience.
>>540562433"Hard work" in a vacuum is meaningless.There are millions of people "working hard" everywhere all the time who never see even a remotely proportional return on that effort.If you think "working hard" is what separates the wealthy and poor you're not paying attention.You need to be at the bottom of the funnel, you need to own your business / labor so that you're receiving the full value of your hard work, not what someone else decides to let you keep.Then you need to purchase others labor for less then it's worth and resell it keeping the difference. That is how you scale, you can only exist in one place at one time so that's an inherent limitation you need to overcome to acquire wealth (unless you want to try and hyper invest in yourself and become a educated specialist high earner like a surgeon) Look at the guy in the video posted above who was going to go from bum to millionaire. What was his strategy? Start his own businesses drop shipping coffee. So he gets maximum value for his effort and has other people (the laborer's who made the actual coffee he is slapping his brand on to) do the work.
>>540560475>It's almost entirely luck basedIt is networking and nepotism.
(((Fisher)))Shocker.
>>540559486Sucking dick, which is pretty much the same thing
>>540559349Back in the early burger history there were myths (millionaires are mythologized in the burger "culture") about future millionaires starting their business with nothing but 4 burger shekels in their pockets.
>>540560839Sounds based actually, everybody used plumbing to some degree so a job is guaranteed
Whoever wrote this probably thinks the 3rd world has a free market and the only crime that exists is between rival drug dealers
>>540559349top kek this is a high level of delusion
>>540560825>The vast majority of our millionaires are not self-madeThis is straight up bullshit
>>540559349Didn't one of these niggers actually try it made it out with 60K the first year?
>>540560921Depends on the "third world" tho.Africa? He will be passed around until he diedCentral América? As long as it is anywhere civilized he will have at least a meal for a day and then he will get fucked for being a nuisance.west asia? He can eat for a day and then he gets killed for being a kike if he's not killed immediately for being a kikesouth asia? He eats for a couple of days and then he dies in a puddle of his own shitEast asia? He can eat for a day but then he dies while trying to cross a street.
>>540559486Ever hear of PayPal, retard?
>>540560825Bullshit, around 75pct of millionaires are self made. Shit any retard with a regular office job can max out their 401k and be a millionaire by the time they're 40.
>>54056839175% of "millionaires" are people that own one (1) home they purchased 8 years ago
>>540559349>be billionaire>get dropped in random country with 5 dollars>can’t speak the language>no one accepts dollarsThis is an unbelievably bad take,
>>540559349The name of that five-dollar bill? Albert Einstein.
>>540560523why does it feel like the exact opposite is occurring
>>540559349Within 5 minutes he will be killed and eaten
>>540559349notice how he didn't say anything about connections being severedhe's only right because his friends and family are ready to uplift him and run that 3rd world
>>540559349Let's test it
>>540568620Well noted>use five dollars to make an international call>within hours, a limo pulls up and takes you to an airport with a ticket waiting >arrive home>be a billionaireSpeedrun that shit
>>540560005RetardPost says billionaire with a bThey are different than millionaires, by a fucking long shot.
>>540559349>billionaire starts eating shit on OnlyFans and become a millionaire again
>>540568391oh my god a million zimbabwe dollars i'm pissing and shitting my pants
>>540568589>airdrop third world countries into billionaires businessesAlready underway.
>>540559349So if this is true why don't we simply strip all the money off of anyone who's a millionaire a billionaire every 5 years and let them start from zero we take their houses their cars their business everything and we give it to someone else whoever's next in line basically and then they get nothing and they have to start over again with nothing.
>>540568005
>>540559349thats stupid and wrongwe believe jesus will give you winning lottery tickets as long as everything bad "wasnt my fault" and jesus blessed him with billions of dollars because he worked super hard praying and never did racisms.
>millionaires and billionaires are inherently specialyea maybe with their corruption and allegiance to Israel and Epstein
>>540559349There's been numerous rich faggots claiming this and a few of the youtube ones have tried. They all failed. Every last one. The only ones who made any money were the ones who either leaned on their already branded name, or those who leaned on connections they had made in the past. Zero have succeeded to go from broke to rich on the same terms as poor people have. Not a single one.
>>540562433Yeah? They are?Americans are so buckbroken they think their delusions are the default.Most people don't start off with a million dollar 0 interest loan or an emerald mine that then enables them to fail upwards.
>>540559349Nate Fisher can shove pic attached up his girly pink bumhole