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Animal husbandry, as in the keeping of animals for food, fiber, labor, and companionship predates civilization, appears in every human society, and represents a relationship between humans and other species that can be, and often has been, reciprocal, knowledgeable, and integrated into a coherent way of life. The pastoralist who knows his flock individually, who breeds for traits suited to his land, who slaughters with his own hands and uses what he kills completely, who understands the cycles of birth, growth, and death as part of a larger ecological pattern is not the enemy.

The enemy is industrial animal agriculture is the reduction of living creatures to mechanical functions; Consider the broiler chicken. Bred for maximum growth rate, it reaches slaughter weight in six to eight weeks an organism that would take months to mature naturally. Its skeleton cannot support its weight; its legs deform, its joints fail. Its cardiovascular system cannot sustain its metabolism; it suffers heart failure and ascites. Its immune system is compromised; it requires constant antibiotic administration to survive the pathogen load of confinement. It lives in a warehouse, never seeing sunlight, never touching soil, never engaging in any behavior natural to its species. It is fed a precisely calculated diet, medicated on a schedule, harvested by machinery.

This Is almost entirely the fault of the mythology of Western ranching, which persists in American culture as an image of independence, "conservative' stewardship, and rugged individualism. This mythology is almost entirely false as the modern Western rancher is not an independent operator in any sense.

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>>540566343
Shooting ground squirrels was the foundation of my marksmanship as a child. It's stewardship because they are pests. They destroy agriculture and burrow holes that kill horses and livestock when they break their legs.
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>>540566343
>The enemy is industrial animal agriculture is the reduction of living creatures to mechanical functions
incorrect.
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So called farmer "independence" is a performance funded by public jew-money. His ecological impact is devastating public lands through grazing that destroys riparian vegetation, compacts soil, spreads invasive species, and reduces biodiversity.

The rancher demands and receives the extermination of predators that his operations attract: wolves, coyotes, mountain lions, bears, raptors. He demands and receives the destruction of "competing" species: wild horses, burros, prairie dogs. His cattle degrade the very landscape that his mythology claims he stewards

His treatment of animals is not the gentle husbandry of tradition but the same industrial anthropocentrist psychopathy

The "backwoods" types who shoot prairie dogs, who run predator derbies, who boast of their rural authenticity while living on disability payments, agricultural subsidies, and resource extraction jobs these are not independent yeomen but ecological terrorists.

They are clients of the state, performing a degraded masculinity through destruction of the wild, while their actual economic existence depends on the very system they claim to oppose. They are useless drains on society and serve no purpose.
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>>540566343
I’m gonna kill some animals just to piss you off faggot memeflag.
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>>540566343
Shooting varmints is part of animal husbandry
You complain about hounters in the title but you don't actually seem to have any complaints
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>>540566680
Consider the man who drives his pickup truck forty miles to a prairie dog town, sets up a bench rest, and spends the afternoon shooting rodents with a high-powered rifle.

He does not eat what he kills as the animals are left to rot. He will tell you he is "controlling pests" or "practicing his marksmanship" or "enjoying the outdoors." While these barbaric rationalizations ignore what he is actually doing is acting out a fantasy of power that the technological system has rendered impossible in real life.

In a genuine struggle for survival, this man would be incompetent. He cannot build a shelter, cannot track an animal without GPS, cannot preserve meat as the system feeds him, clothes him, entertains him.

His "hunt" is a theatrical performance in which he plays the role of the competent, autonomous man; a role made possible only by the extreme technological amplification of his feeble capacities.

The rifle, the scope, the ammunition, the vehicle, the roads, the synthetic clothing: all products of the industrial-technological system. Remove these, and the "hunter" is revealed as what he is a helpless dependent antisocial twerp.
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>>540566343
>This Is almost entirely the fault of the mythology of Western ranching
What is this retarded faggot babble? Was this written by chat gpt?
Animals are bred for maximum growth rate to make the production of food cheaper and more efficient, not because of some mythology
And it's done in industrial farming, your average farmer/hunter has nothing to do with it
You are probably some big city jeet that will die of aids soon anyway
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>>540566553
rationalization is a sign of an eternal manlet
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>>540567165
did you hit your head recently, anon?
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>>540567073
food and animals are no longer grown to feed people, its grown for profit retard.
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>>540566993
Do you think humans started hunting only after the industrial revolution? Humans hunted for as long as we exist, means of hunting simply got more efficient and more moral as the result since animals suffer less being shot by a gun than a bow
Hunters do eat the food they hunt and all of those ""controlling pests" or "practicing his marksmanship" or "enjoying the outdoors."
are also valid reasons for hunting.
You are indian 100%
>>540567295
>its grown for profit retard
Profit from growing food comes from feeding the people in as efficient way as possible retard
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>>540566343
true. industrial animal farming only exists because our psychopathic mafia overlords need to feed their golem hordes. in a sane world something nightmarish as an industrial slaughterhouse could not exist. satan and his flesh, blood, and loosh eating demons rule this earth.
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>>540566553
You are a sick fucker and I hope you are on some kind of watchlist
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>>540567516
Industrial isn’t that bad. It’s the halal stuff that is made from nightmares.
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>>540567165
Faggotry is a sign of being a fucking faggot
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>>540567530
You kill all rodents on a farm. Hell I remember shooting bumblebees with shotguns when I was bored growing up.
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Not exactly. In Canada, animal husbandry is something completely different.
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>>540567685
You are such a sick fuck. Those are living beings with feelings and a desire to live as much as anything else. Why would you kill them for simply existing??
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>>540567764
They fuck things up putting holes everywhere
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>>540567764
Malignant narcissism. They view themselves as vigilantes removing precieved "evil" animals that are simply preforming actions they have done for millions of years.
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>>540566343
>Modern city mutant brownoid marxist neoliberal bolsjevik muttoids
>Aahhh kill the white farmers
>Starves to death-ACKKKK
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Come try
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>>540566343
if white people stop farming all you non-whites will be dead in a month

i'im 100% for it
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>>540567764
You are a huge pussy. Animals kill each other all the time, sometimes just for fun. This is how nature works. There is something wrong with you.
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>>540567764
Because my family invested in the cattle and we'd prefer them not to be hobbled, useless and worthless by the holes of rodents.
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>>540567073
Wild ecosystems provide more meat because every niche is filled. Pastoralism is about ownership; first the herd then the land. Once boomers fenced in all the land they went back to the wildsplaas
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>>540568003
So we are no better than animals? It is morally right and just for us to behave in such atrocious and macabre ways? Wow.
>>540568045
No animal is useless. They are all creatures of God and he has a purpose for all of them
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>>540568129
You are not a better man because you refuse to eliminate invasive pests that can destroy your property or cattle. You are just a huge pussy. If you want to live like that go ahead, but don't try to impose you misguided views on morality on other people.
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>>540568129
>So we are no better than animals?
Uh no not by any metric as of late
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>>540566343
faggot
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>>540568191
>misguided views
Just admit that you are a soulless abomination that takes pleasure in destroying God’s creation. You are probably some shit skin nigger
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>>540568045
>my family invested
Look at this goy; working for sauron, monetizing the earth for slop. At least he's not contract killing for free
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>>540567980
This.
Cut off all electricity, water and logistics to the jewish freak mutt metropols and bushwhack anyone trying to leave.
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>>540568003
>You are a huge pussy. Animals kill each other all the time, sometimes just for fun. This is how nature works. There is something wrong with you.
>You are not a better man because you refuse to eliminate invasive pests that can destroy your property or cattle. You are just a huge pussy. If you want to live like that go ahead, but don't try to impose you misguided views on morality on other people.
Check out the schnozz on that fake rabbi.
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>>540568129
So when my calf snaps two ankles and I have to turn it into veal, instead of allowing to it grow and feed hundreds, it's gods will?
Is it not God's will acting through me to kill the rodentia and protect my cattle?
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>>540567685
>URGI handguard
Checks out.
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>>540568129
Have you actually read the Bible? There are tons of examples of animals being killed.
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>>540568238
Yes. We invest in feed, land and veterinary care to raise our own food and food for others.
God I hope you get raped by a pack of wild niggers.
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>>540568129
>le heckin pest rodents
God you are an out of touch faggot
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>>540568251
Do elk brakes their ankles in these varmint holes? Was hunting that easy; literally God doing all the work?
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>>540568312
>We invest in land
You like that word. It means stolen
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>>540568343
Unironically yes, they do. I also kill those if that makes you feel worse. Elk is fucking delicious.
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>>540568129
>So we are no better than animals?
Quite Easily Demonstrated
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>>540566343
>the enemy is
there are many enemies, such as your mom's rotting vagina
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>>540568399
No nigger. You understand that "invest" has meaning beyond financial right? Though, I expect not being an African subhuman.
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>>540568410
I got no problem with eating elk. I just finished the meat I dried last week. Even ate the intestines. You do eat your elk chitterlings I hope, anon
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>>540568481
Kafirs don’t understand that word.
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>>540566343
>blahblahblahVEGANblahblah
You vegan shitheads force the destruction of countless animals' nests and habitats to produce your low-nutrition food, but since you're not the one chopping up the adorable little groundhogs or driving deer out of their former homes you think your shit doesn't stink.
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>>540568481
>Steal land
>Fence it in <investment
>Grow slop. <shitty investment
>Return land to wild
Now you can collect free elks stuck in varmint holes without feed, vetinary slop or slaughter houses

Well done boomer, you stole all the hunting grounds
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>>540568506
Really depends on the condition of said intestines. If they're most empty I'll keep em, but if their full of literal shit and half digested grass I'm not really going to put in the effort to throughougly clean them out to make edible. Caul fat is a must, same with heart, liver, and kidneys. Lungs I don't really care for. Pretty much anything I don't eat gets consumed by my dogs. I even tie flies with the hair and try to give as much of it away to the local fly fishing club as I can. Might try making my own gloves this year, but haven't learned tanning yet.
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>>540568586
>groundhogs
Are they as tasty as cane rat?
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>>540568226
Jesus never once in scriptures advocating against eating or killing animals. He even feed people fish with one of his miracles. You are not speaking on behalf of God, but of yourself, which you sacreligously put above God.
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>>540568668
Ah, last week's intestines were leaves. I wouldn't enjoy grass. It was my first time consuming an antelope kit. It was very interesting seeing how the spleen connects to the stomach; makes you realize how simple the medicine business is. Lungs tasted fine, but the texture is a bit weird. I want to try mincing it and combining with milled corn. Perhaps sewing it in stomach and boiling it
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>>540568645
Canned hunts are for faggots. We bought the land in the late 1800s, and have essentially kept it in its natural state since, spare some troughs, bale feeders, and barbed wire. I go into the mountains to harvest most of my elk. We have a local herd that runs through just before hunting season, so I never get to plug one of them. Come across many dead ones, and a couple live hobbled elk, usually call fish and feathers to come kill it and take it away, that way the meat goes to local food banks.
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>>540568865
In my experience, the leaf eating ones tend to be tastier, I'm right on the edge of prairie and mountain so I get a mix.
If you get the opportunity try some pronghorn antelope (aka speed goat), the eat almost exclusively sagebrush and their meat is basically preseasoned.
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>>540567825
The animal is not evil, I don't take pleasure in killing them. Ground squirrels are intelligent creatures and I realize some people like them as pets. However, nature is a cruel redpill that has been lost to you.
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>>540566993
Your "argument" is called a strawman.
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>>540566343
> Animal husbandry
Sounds SUS
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>>540566343
Okay, your position is clear... but distinguishing between enemy and non-enemy—living within the system, you must understand that YOU yourself are INSIDE THE SYSTEM, your FARMER (NOT THE ENEMY) is INSIDE THE SYSTEM, and the FARMER (THE ENEMY, according to your mythology) is INSIDE THE SYSTEM. And since you are all INSIDE THE SYSTEM... the question is... who are you fighting? You are all dependent on the system and can't even breathe without it. It turns out that behind the correct words (even without the slogans typical of Greenpeace and peace lovers)... there is simply POWERLESSNESS IN THE FRONT OF THE SYSTEM and its trend towards industrial "anthropocentric psychosis", as you said... when there are mass slaughters, animals are kept their entire lives in terrible conditions, and the chicks of chickens that don't fit on the floor are thrown into the crusher ALIVE... so that this mixture can be fed to pigs...
I think that instead of trying to change a world you cannot influence, you should focus on creating a new parallel world—an agrarian utopia where all those negative things simply do not exist. In this way, you could build a closed community outside the system and its rules.
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>>540568995
>call fish and feathers to come kill it to feed niggers
On your very own stolen land! Your hardy ancestors must be rolling. I am friends with poachers and the rangers who kill them. The poachers can walk over the mountains with a nyala on their back

Obligatory double space stfu faggot retard to keep this political for the slop eating peekers who do things for free
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>>540569125
>pronghorn antelope
Look a lot like the Impala I been eating. The intestines tasted like stuffed pasta. Good thing I got a bro with a White soul but black hands to clean them. As for tanning, the head ranger aksed me to bring some skins. They were out of stock. I will try next week. They use cow brains, because Impala don't have enough to tan their own hides. Zebra skins are free because nobody knows how to tan them
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>>540569125
Or you could just eat the sage brush and other plants instead of needlessly slaughtering precious animals like some idiotic neanderthal
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>>540569285
Meh, wildlife fines aren't worth my time or energy, and I would like not to have a hunting license suspension should I get particularly uppity zogbot come snooping. Poaching is for niggers anon, don't involve yourself in that.

Also, to keep things political, I think you're confusing "stolen" with "conquered".
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>>540569536
Cry into your tofu, you testosterone diminished faggot.
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>>540569511
Why is zebra more difficult to tan than anything else?
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>>540569511
I'd wager you could use commercial tanner to do the zebra. Are they really thinned skinned or something?
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>>540569800
That's what I'm trying to figure out. They say it needs a machine. Perhaps it is very tough. I have an old 1950s book on tanning. It's incredibly complex. Brain tanning is the only cheat code; everything else uses fancy chemicals or literal dog shit. Only the oldest niggers have an inkling of the secrets of the ancients. I'm trying to summon those wizards over bloody animal skins
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>>540569867
>could use commercial
There's the rub. The free skins are in a small kingdom. I would have to smuggle them over a border for commercial tanning and that is way more serious than fish and game folks. I suspect they thin on the flanks and very stiff and ridged in the middle making them hard to flatten. I will pick up a free one and see if we can make something of the soft stuff and maybe rawhide outta the ridgeline
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>>540566343
It is literally vermin. Not sure why they are proud of it though.
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>>540569986
Extremely based. I'm only vaguely familiar with brain tanning, but haven't actually given it a shot myself. Make a thread when you try to tame that zebra hide anon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Wy49bWSfA
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>>540570144
I have a trapper buddy who does a heavy brain tan and then smokes the hide. This has worked on everything from whitetail to black bear for him. Turns out really soft.
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>>540566343
do us a favor tranny, neck yourself .
UGH I KNOW I KNOW, JUST NOT GONNA STOP KILLING SMALL GAME SO I DON"T HAVE TO BUY GOYSLOP
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>>540570531
We spent a few days with a man in the yak valley who brain tanned bear; he made us delicious huckleberry tartlets in a cast iron muffin tin in his yurt. Bears look so comfortable in their own skins. It's cold and raining early hours. I drive a little until the car is warm. Just saw a rabbit. I'm on my way to a town. Last I was there, there were men on the street corners cracking whips. They were selling genuine hippo hide sjamboks. They are quite the business. Hippo skins are an inch thick



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