how do i free myself from the Christianity religious dogma?i want to break free and start to see reality under a more stoic and "real" point of view, anything like videos or book about it?>in4 satanic larp shit
Why would anyone wish to distance themselves from the Almighty? Do you just want to be miserable and angry alm the time? Look around you mate, the state of the world is completely Godless…do you really wish to mirror your soul after that?
>>540569389>how do i free myself from the Christianity religious dogma?believe in Jesus and in His version of Christianity, and not in your own christianity or not in christianity that contradicts Jesus' version of it. caring about politics is un-Christlike
>>540569389ITT, OP wants help on how to be even more of a fag
>>540569460>miserable and angrybetter than doing nothing and better just dying faster so you stop shitting things up with your endless calls to inaction, and assorted gay ass hollow moral finger waving, you modern democracy supporting liberal Christian and coward.Your soul is just gay. You got homosoul, anon.The Goy of the Lord truly drenches you deep don't it queerboi.I don't care what you have to say and I don't like you.
>>540569460>Why would anyone wish to distance themselves from the Almighty?to understand my surrounding more clearly without a man made filter covering the perception i could had if i wasn't introduced to man religious made ideas from a young age, and this isnt because i need to do any so called sin or anything like that>believe in Jesus and in His version of Christianityi mean we already do as Catholics
>>540569646I live my life based on the teachings of scripture. Not what some suit on television tells me. Your preconceived notions are blinding you to the truthYou want to know who God is and who he calls his people to be? Read scripture, its literally all there.
>>540569629>fagwhy restructuring my fate in any way would change my so called sexuality?
>>540569715I don't care.World is shit because you're too busy sucking on your own cock.
>>540569675Church is simply a place for christians to gather and worship God. Church is filled with people who struggle with sin, who misinterpret scripture, and who make bad impressions on people who may not have a relationship with God. Why? Because we are all sinners and broken people. Unfortunately it causes people to stumble with their faith, but, if you just listen closely to God by reading his word, you can start to drown out the noise of the rest.Church is also a great place to find refuge and solace once you grow the relationship with fellow believers. But the main source of that comes from your relationship with God, and he will provide the rest. I hope this all makes sense, be well brother. I hope you find what you are looking for
>>540569675So what sort of aeternal truth are you after? You already believe in Jesus Christ, there is no greater truth than that
>>540569389https://people.sc.fsu.edu/~dduke/lectures/PLINYNHII.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L5tjscy85U
>>540569777Lamentations 3:25-33
>>540569389>>540569726It won't, and Christians lie by associating leftism and LGBT with atheism. They're really comparing cushions to Marxists, not atheists. Now to answer your original question : why are you stuck being a Christian If you know it's bullshit? Like you know, magical jews from 2000 years ago aren't real right?
>>540570008cushions= Christians
>>540569859>You already believe in Jesus Christbelieve? the problem is that i always have printed in the back of my mind that if i do any sin or stop actin on the dogma i had imprinted on me i will get sick and die and spend the eternity in hell suffering as a entity who look like my current body
>>540569611>just make up your own version of Christianity!>acktually it's the REAL version because made it upclassic Christcuck move
Kikeslop thread
>>540569389You’re not a christian, so how come you paint it as transition from christian dogma kek. You say you wanna be more stoic, what are you know, too reactive, too emotional? I don’t think that stems from your exposure to christianity, no one gives a fuck about christianity’s dogma.
>>540570139Sometimes I think Christians make these threads, pretending they're not Christians or that they're questioning their faith, so their little buddies can reply and "comvince" them to stay. They're astroturfing their presence because no one gives a shit about them otherwise. So they have to make these little larps that go back and forth where they pretend to present a question and then answer it in an attempt to brainwash any lurkers.
>>540569857Church is the hospital for the soul.
>>540570169Exactly like I said here >>540570202He probably is a Christian LARPing as someone who's questioning their faith, so they can present counter arguments as a way to brainwash any gullible retards who happen to lurk.
>>540570215Ignorance is bliss, comes right from your garden of Eden story.
>>540569389check out Alan Watts. he is probably the best bridge from dogmatic Christian thinking into broader spirituality and philosophy of life. just pick up one of his books or listen to some of his lectures.
>>540570215Church is a place a bunch of gossipy old women go to feel smug and superior for being "good Christians".
Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism. christkikes are literally kikes, and they act like it
>>540570097Christ is not fear. Christ is Love. Did you go to a secular school or a religious one? No need to doxx yourself, either way what they taught you about sin, redemption, and eternal punishment is not necessarily true. We are human and fallible, Christ knows that better than anyone. As long as you believe and repent truly you are doing what you are supposed to do. And remember, the relationship is between you and God. Other believers are there to help, including ordained priests but even when you go to confess you are talking to God directly.
>>540569460So fucking sick of this delusional logic to make some desert dwellers lies to gain power, enforced by a conquering empire, have any compelling force on people’s lives. You are shit, your entire philosophy is shit, you are weak, able to navigate life only with another man’s lies as your crutch.
>>540570258Alan Watts was a Buddhist, and Buddhism comes from Hinduism. Be careful with that Eastern mysticism crap. Just use your discernment. Meditation can be useful, but don't start thinking that you're nothing and everything at the same time because that's retarded. It's one thing to keep your ego in check, but if you take it too seriously, look at what Hinduism and Buddhism produce - jeets and Asians who work more as a collective than individuals, because they've given up their ego and think they're nothing and just a reflection of eternal consciousness.
>>540570202>>540570112>>540570008Why are you so angry at christians? What is making you lash out like this?
>>540569389Literally just learn about biology. Go pick up some textbooks. That's the place to start.
>>540570403because you're jewish. you're a kike. kill yourself
>>540570403>angry >lashing outFirst of all i'm not doing those things just because I'm calling out your behavior. Such is the passive aggressive behavior your displaying right now, saying I'm angry just because I'm criticizing something, almost female like behavior. It's manipulative.
>>540570403Look at the flag, 50/50 chance he's a jeet. Jeets seethe at Christians and Muslims for conquering their festering subcontinent.
>>540570359I am weak. But my savior is not. He allows you to draw breath, to conjure every venomous thought that you had then transcribed into your post towards me, and then kept your mechanical faculties in motion to reply. Do you not see that every second you are animated in this life is a gift from him? Do you really believe that you are in control and in power here?
>>540570230Christians don’t have faith in christianity as a religion though. They have a suspension of disbelief on their choice of identity, that’s why they need to push others into choosing christian identity, validation. When it comes to the dogma, that shit’s dead, find me a christian you know that’s waited till marriage, just to name an example. So yeah, OP could very well be fishing for indirect validation, very jewish thing to do after all.I think he’s just confused though.
>>540570470Its not passive aggressive, im asking you directly why you are getting so upset over people being positive towards one another. It seems like you are mad about something
>>540570354 #>Christ is not fear. Christ is LoveChristianity absolutely uses fear to imprint itself onto children. You can claim it's not christ-like all you want, but it's the truth.. Christianity requires the use of fear to keep itself going.
>>540569675>man made filterFedora larp thread. Off topic.
>>540570574It absolutely is passive aggressive. Just because I'm calling out something that's dishonest doesn't mean I'm angry. Maybe I'm just persistent, and you're the one is angry because you don't like being called out on your behavior and you don't like hearing the truth about your delusions.
>>540570588Im not sure which church you have been to, but I am sorry if someone ever made you feel that way. Genuine christians do not operate out of fear, we operate out of liberation. There is a massive difference
>>540570431You're right, but I'm not even angry though. Christians always project and act passive aggressive because they're delusional and they don't like hearing it
>>540570549He could be confused, but if you look at how Christian content is posted on right-wing social media, they always play these little LARPs like they'll present a question that nobody asked, and then they'll answer it in the video. And they spam thousands of these videos knowing that eventually someone will click on it. Like they literally post propaganda.
>>540570607All religions are objectively made-up fairy tales.
>>540569389Read Plato in full, then the bible in full, and see what a sad subversive caricature the latter is compared to the former. Then move on to people like Plotinus and Proclus and others and you will see just how much more in depth and magnificent the so-called "pagan" view of our existence is in comparison to any off the desert death cult offshoots. It's really this simple. Just put in the work and you will find the truth. God is real but it has nothing to do semitic tales. Christcucks are about as close to God as leftists, so in other words not at all.
>>540570675did this god of your make niggers?
>>540569389>Christianity religious dogma?Why stop at Christianity?You should avoid being dogmatic. That is the only dogma to follow.There is scientific dogma, societal dogma, etc.They're all fake and gay.So your question should be>How do I break free from dogmaThe answer is quite easy. Learn to ask "why" and when someone can give a full coherent answer without saying "cus that's how it is", then their opinion is worth something.
>>540569996>I feel, I feelYeah exactly what I said, piss off.>>540570215more like the opium den for the soul, these niggers act like it's holy when they're just far more resembling to a satisfied sexed vagina essentially, "I feel oy vey, I feel."I didn't how you feel kek. Disgusting nigger lower than human, I swear. World's full of troons and 3rd world civilization ending monkeys and kikes but faggotfuck here he feels.Whores and sinners feel and emote too.>>540570403you're letting the world go to shit, and 3 times in a row to me alone, you response to me with assorted shit about feeling better.That's what it amounts to.Nigger, you no different than some pot toking hippy really. Chill out and don't worry, maaan.Lamentations, maaan. Troon rapes my daughter, eh well I am filled with holiness maaan, liberation bro, least I'm not harshing my mellow brah.Anon fuck who you are kek.I don't just reject what you're prescribing in the moment, I reject you. Get out of here with that shit, I wanted it I'd take it.
>>540570647The focal point of Christianity is that Jesus Christ was tortured and killed as a human sacrifice that you can accept so you don't burn in hell for eternity. The fear of eternal torment is the driving force behind the religion.
>>540570675I have read everything from Kant to Aurelius, and those guys were all brilliant. But it ultimately strengthened my faith in Jesus Christ
>>540570740Based leaf understands basic critical thinking.
>>540570713>* fedora tip *
>>540570588That's not the experience I've had with Christianity. What denomination are you?t. Roman Catholic
>>540570797jew worshipper
>>540570762You miss the point entirely. Anyone placing their eternal future in THAT version of “faith”, will not be with God when they pass. The relationship comes from a longing to be with HIM, not a fear of hell
>>540570812because you're too retarded to understand what's going on. fucking christkike dunce
>>540570849>Strawman argument
>>540570797If you don't believe all of humanity got cursed because a man made out of clay and a woman made out of the clay man's rib, both nude, got tricked by a talking snake into eating a fruit, and a deity got assmad and cursed them and all their descendants for all time, and if you don't believe that deity impregnated a woman to give birth to himself and then have himself killed so he would stop sending humans to be tortured in magic lava for eternity, then... you must wear a funny hat!Okay man.
>>540570748Have you considered the fact that the reason none of us who claim ourselves as christian seem to care that much about things of this world is because its insanely fleeting? Think about it, you blink and suddenly you went from 17 to 50. Blink again and now you are in a nursing home having trouble remembering your own name. This life is a vapor and there is really nothing you can personally do to control your destiny and every outcome, and especially not things and people in the world around you. Does this mean that christians need to be cowards that allow evil to run amuck? No. God even says this in Luke 10:19…But it does mean that sometimes its ok to admit you cant control everything
>>540570867If that were true, then they would not have invented the threat of eternal damnation as a motivator.
>>540570946tell me more about the donkey that spoke hebrew. that's new testament shit
>>540570647Oh drop the crap, you're not sorry and you know damn well that fear and judgment is what terrifies children so it leaves an imprint, basically trauma-induced mind control. The religion would fail if you could only work on adults. It has to be imprinted during childhood. It's a famous quote even: >"Give me a child till he is seven years old," said St Ignatius Loyola, "and I will show you the man.>>540570867You don't have a special version of Christianity that only a few people understand. You're just lying and denying the fact that fear is used to imprint your religion onto children.
>>540571050everything a christkike says is a lie. it's insane
>>540570997The people who have done that are perverting the word of God. I heard this once and maybe this can paint a better picture; Heaven is where you go when you seek God and want a relationship with him. Hell is where souls go when they want nothing to do with God and God simply says “Ok, wish granted”. This cartoon depiction that Hell is some lava pit with screaming demons torturing you every second for eternity is not literal, its just a void of pure isolation and nothingness for eternity
>>540569389Not religious myself but do you necessarily need to step away from Christianity or dogma? If is interfering with your philosophy then maybe it's just something you still believe in. You could favour x for spiritual reasons, textual reasons or pragmatic reasons and you'd still land on x if you're honest with yourself. What matters is you examine why it's true for you.
>>540570991learn to read, like I already told you before you start, die faster
>>540570946>Bkack & white thinkingThe atheist is at, basically, the starting point of knowledge, but he thinks he's reached the end and is above everyone.
>>540571107that's nowhere in the bible you fake piece of shit
Read Nietzsche, he takes to piss to cuckianity. You are right to hate cuckianity because it is not of Christ. Nonretarded Christians are able to reconcile Nietzsche's criticisms and operate in a post-rational way that understands how the pre-rational ancients wrote instead of being a retarded literalist which is how both retarded Christians and their atheist children operate. Christ has far more in common with Diogenes than any moralfag, he's a shitpoaster like us.
>>540570867So your faith resides in the caricature and idealization of someone who died thousands of years ago and whose life went mostly undocumented? If you’re gonna say that’s the idea and not the person, then you don’t need him, and the idea isn’t original, so you wouldn’t have a reason to stick to christianity.
>>540571132every single thing a christkike says is a lie
>>540569389>set aside beliefs you were taught without evidence other than scripture that has no evidence of its truth>think about what you feel like reality is>read books, both philosophy and religious, to get other points of view and decide if you like them or parts of them>meditate too, it's okay to be 'spiritual' in a sense even if you're atheist, it still carries the same benefits for cognitive function, stress reduction and mental health even if you think it's just something your brain is doing
>>540571079Yeah they gaslight like leftists. Christians claim to be right-wing conservatives but they totally act like leftist women. They'll get angry and then project it on you and say that you're getting angry, then they'll just start calling you names and gaslighting because they want to shut down the conversation
>>540571179Bye bye manchild.
>>540569389You don't have to believe in manmade religious institutions to think Jesus is good even if he didn't exist, you can even be religious without buying into institutional religion and dogma
>>540571153>>540569857
>>540569389The Orange Catholic Bible in the Dune universe is interesting. https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Orange_Catholic_Bible>Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
>>540571240> Just practice the Christian faith even if you don't believe! You can still be religious even if you don't follow the rules of the religion Sneaky
>>540571225you've been exposed and are running away like the little jew worshipper you are. typical.
>>540571199I find it funny that mainstream christians will say that meditation and yoga exercises is demonic and satanic, and then they will do that shaking and speaking in tongues shit and dancing like a schizo and say it's holy lol, dogmatic religion is sadly full of contradictions and hypocrisies that go against themselves
>>540571310not only are christkikes the biggest liars on the planet, they're also the stupidest motherfuckers around. it's comical
>>540569389The Discourses of Epictetus is very verbose, but it encapsulates the stoic mindset. He was an enlightened man, but he was fixated on rejection of the worldly so it’s somewhat impractical. It’s also worth noting that he was a slave, so it’s not hard to not give a shit about worldly possession if you don’t have anything. He was freed at some point but still, that’s what he knew. The Taoist texts are probably more practical in a modern context. Especially the Zhuangzi and Liezi. Like Epictetus, they didn’t write their books, their disciples just thought that what they said was worth writing down. Liezi was a poor farmer, Zhuangzi was a former Chinese official that either rejected a more permanent role or walked away from it. It’s arguably more helpful than Buddhism or Stoicism because it doesn’t really claim to have the answers. The philosophers just state “This is what can be observed, but whether it is absolute is unknowable.” The Corpus Hermeticum isn’t for everyone but I find parts of it relevant. It’s not completely right but it’s a decent framework.
Just remember youre picking and choosing when you follow the bible and that if God is real youre not going to undermine him.
>>540570880>kvetchesOy vey schlomo you got caught lhing you filthy bastard
>>540571169>whose life went mostly undocumented Pliny the YoungerTacitusFlavius JosephusSuetonius Mara bar Serapionall accounted for Christ
>>540571310What am I supposed to believe in? That the Earth was created 6000 years ago? How does that help you be closer to God and Christ? I would even argue that placing such great importance on these trivial things goes against what your religion was supposed to be.
>>540571359A lot of them are dumb yeah, but also a lot of them sociopathic manipulators. It's the best thing ever being able to hide it behind phrases such as " God is love". Like look how rich the Catholic church is. Is professional mind control, like they're serious about their job and they know that their mind controlling people.
>>540571380Who are you even talking to you dumb tay-sachs kike?
>>540569460you niggers have been saying since the beginning. Godless just means you have cope to sell
believe in goddont go to churchdont read the bibledont prayjust believe in god and confess he is your lord and savior and thats it. the access to heaven is only promised if you have real genuine faith, the rest does not matter
>>540571430Trust your senses. You're apparently a human living on planet Earth. Study what is observable and reproducible, and go from there. A magical wizard zombie jew from 2000 years ago who rose from the dead is not reproducible. We're still figuring things out.
Why is Christianity so fractured and corruptible?
>>540569389Realize that if you're already thinking this way, the thing keeping you tethered to your "faith" is probably fear. Fear of Hell, fear of angering God, or disappointing Him; fear of missing out on Heaven, and fear of being wrong. If you have the stones to abandon that fear, that's good - but what's more important than that is having the brains to realize that not a single person out there actually knows what the fuck they're talking about at the end of the day. We're all trying to grasp this thing called "certainty", which requires absolute knowing; but we're using brains that evolved to merely approximate reality well enough to fulfill our biological needs. All access to reality is perspectival, and the main reason we think otherwise is because we've become attached to Truth, because it affords our assertions a level of authority that reduces our burden when trying to get others to do what we want. We want things to be true, then rationalize them, and then anchor them in Truth so we have less blood to spill and less risk of having our own blood spilled. That's your key. Take it or leave it.
>>540571255I think we should be careful not to worship AI as if it was created by God (sentient), it wasn't, it was created by humans.
>>540571442It’s understandable to look at human institutions, like the Catholic Church or any large organization and see hypocrisy, wealth, or the potential for abuse. History sadly gives plenty of examples of people using religion for power.But historic institutions aren't the definition of Christianity. At its core, Christianity isn't a political system or a mind-control technique. It’s an invitation to a relationship with God. Jesus actually spent a lot of His time confronting religious leaders who used rules and religious authority to control people, calling them out for hypocrisy. Real faith asks people to think deeply, love genuinely, and seek truth, rather than blindly obey some man made system
>>540569715Didn't fallible church councils decide what texts are included and excluded as scripture?
>>540571343Even just regular Christian prayer is a light meditation, at least if it's beyond just a few lines recited hurriedly before a meal or sleep. Longer prayer is deeper meditation, and if it's a short repeated text like a Catholic praying the rosary, the prayer becomes about the same as a mantra.
>>540571661>That's not REAL Christcuckery!Give me a break, yes it is. You don't have a special version of Christianity. That's real that only you and a select few others understand. That's the oldest excuse in the book, and your religion was purposely made vague so that you could argue that. It was designed that way because it's bullshit.
>>540571696Nope!2 Timothy 3:16-17>All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
>>540571744Imagine if you went after islam, or buddhism, or taoism, or judaism the same way you try and find holes in christianity. But you wont, because you know this is the truth and the gospel. And the truth makes you uncomfortable
>>540571562> don't read the Bible and practice Christianity, but you should still practice Christianity by confessing your sins to a dead jewSneaky.
>>540571816I did call out Hinduism and Buddhism earlier in the thread. You're just posting the same old excuses we see in every thread. I'm not picking on Christianity specifically, this thread is about Christianity and we live in Christian majority countries. You can't see my long-term post history but I always call out Islam and judaism just as much because they're also Abrahamic religions. You're all people of the book, in fact all 3 are just sects of Abraham. So once again you have to make things up because you're being dishonest.
>>540571816more christkike lies. every fucking thing you've typed out tonight is untrue. if I was a christcuck, I'd think you were demonic
>>540571952That's why I said earlier that some Christians are actually intelligent but they're sociopathic and they use the religion for clout and money etc. it's probably half the reason why they get angry, because we're hurting their grift
i love my enemies
>>540570349>>540570349
>>540571589I think it's the trinity, it gives a schizophrenic idea of God, Jesus cannot be God himself, to paint over this with mental gymnastics causes schizophrenia and all kinds of problems, mainly moral relativism (man can be God)
>>540571952Nothing I have said is a lie
>>540572047what a shameless piece of shit. truly fishers of men
>>540569389>more stoic and "real" point of view, anything like videos or book about it?Marcus Aurelius - Meditations. >how do i free myself from the Christianity religious dogma?He will shatter your abrahamic death cult views and realize just a jewish monotheistic view of the Creator is a joke.
>>540572085Everything you say is a lie. Like every single word.
>>540572085fuck off liar
>>540571990I do think mainstream christianity and christians have become very fake and performative
>>540569389try The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan. there's an audio book where he narrates it, it's very cozy and eye-opening.
>>540572146There is no special hidden version, or some version from the past that's real. It's all fake. Into the trash.
>>540571430Theology is a living social science practiced by humans to understand our place in the cosmos and how and why we opperate socially and instrospectively. It is very old obviously predating the jews and the western tradition runs through the Persians and Greeks and undeniably advanced through Christianity. Applying the autistic ultra rigorous enlightenment rationalism to theology is like trying to wrap your arms around steam and why that inevitably leads to atheism and progressivism which is cladisticly a combination of heresies starting with the equalist nonsense then dropping Christ. Real theology tells you how Ads are demonic and that soft money is usury, not the retarded shit retarded cuckianity focuses on. The garden of eden was about the transition from hunter gatherer to agriculture. Creationists deserve their atheist children because they're just doing exactly what their parents told them to, taking it all at face value under enlightenment rationalism without nuance.
>>540569460>the state of the world is completely Godlessweird, God made it and made man in his image. his intention must be for it to be Godless, otherwise he'd do something about it.
>>540572187It depends how you define it, if you define christianity as bible worship then yes it's basically all fake
>>540572211He did, in genesis when he flooded the entire earth. Then he made a covenant to not do that again, Christ will return and judge the living and the dead. You realize man has free will>>540572113>>540572109When did I lie?
>>540571343I never got the impression that megachurch and pentacostal Christians represented mainstream Christianity.
>>540572249No it doesn't. Magical zombie wizard jews from 2000 years ago are not real. It's a lie.
>>540571912Things to look for when trying to spot a villain:1. Large amount of time goes into hating a thing. He can't enjoy life, can only enjoy hating. 2. If thing gets deleted, then utopia! Example: if Jews/white/blscks/capitalism/women/men are removed then utopia!3. Never says anything positive about thing, which is impossible. Completely black & white. 4. Extreme confirmation bias.
>>540572283sounds like a sloppy god who punishes his children for his mistakes.then he sent his son (himself?) to die as a blood sacrifice. rather demonic, really.
Become retarded. Christianity is just objectively the most logically sound philosophy. So the only way to move away from that is to become wrong willfully or wrong as a consequence of being a retard.
>>540572195Schizobabble, Nietzsche was a fool and your spiel is meaningless.
>>540569675Nikola Tesla was a christian and he learned the secrets of the universe. I think you've spent too much time on here, this shit has fucked with your mind. There is no "dude woah, I'm like woke and transcendent bro!". You can learn all sorts of shit and still be a grounded normal person. You don't HAVE to remove Christ from your life to learn shit ya dingus. Knowing Christ isn't going to take away anything from you or hold you back, in fact I've found that knowing Christ has helped guide me on my search for truth and knowledge. God gives us discernment so that we don't get misguided by fake bullshit like freemasons or rosicrucian or some other "sekrit sociuety" bullshit that is nothing more than smoke and mirrors to distract from the rabbi at the bottom of the rabbit hole.Once you know what truth should look like, figuring out what's false becomes easy.
>>540572334Oh look another Christian being passive aggressive. I don't have to say anything positive about a lie. And just because I'm criticizing a lie persistently doesn't mean I'm angry. What's observable is that Christians repeat the same passive aggressive accusations over and over again because your programmed to do so.
>>540572377>>540572380all christkikes are liars
>>540572300>I never got the impression that megachurch and pentacostal Christians represented mainstream Christianity.They do at least in America.
>>540572342>his mistakesHe gave us free will. We turned away from him, it was our own doing>he sent his son as a blood sacrificeCorrect. It was the only way to rectify the severed relationship between our flesh and him. Without christ he would just be forced to annihilate us from existence, our sinful selves cannot even be in his presence
>>540572440we gotta throw you lunatics into death camps
>>540572413They act irritating on purpose hoping that you'll get mad so they can accuse you of being hateful and angry. It's literally gaslighting, they want you to get emotional because it's distracting from the conversation.
>>540572464Do what you must. Wont matter in the grand scheme of things….we all wind up at the same destination
>>540572388>You don't HAVE to remove Christ from your life to learn shit ya dingus.He never said this, you are an obvious liar and are turning people away from christianity, christianity is declining because of people like you.
>>540572392See:>>540572334
>>540572464
>>540572531See >>540572477
>>540572464You just gave them what they wanted.
>>540572508nigga what the fuck are you talking about? I read like the first line of OPs post and jumt to a conclusion. little nigger.
>>540572477it's true though. i hate christkikes so much it's unreal. their constant lies throw me into a fit of rage. i have to stop myself from smashing my phone all the time when i go to these threads
>>540572559>>540572477You really have no credible argument to anything in this thread. All you have done is talk about how christians are liars the entire time, what exactly have we lied about?
>>540569389At a cosmic scale were dust mites on a mossy particle floating in a cloud of dust. In the face of such a massive and unfeeling universe the idea that an immortal Jewish being who wants you to cut the tip of your dick off has created immortal souls for one specific type of squabbling dust mite is so fucking absurd that it practically defies comprehension.
>>540572599time to lie and play dumb
>>540572589You jumped to a conclusion and now you are mad that I called you out on it, how could this happen to you? idiot
>>540572440>Without christ he would just be forced to annihilate us from existence, our sinful selves cannot even be in his presenceyikes, that sounds like a frail god who is looking for an excuse to murder.needing to send his son as a blood sacrifice at all seems profane.hard pass, you worship and evil demon.
>>540572599I pointed it out earlier and you know I did. So if I refuse to repeat myself then you'll claim that I'm the one who's lying instead. Same old games
>>540572590ok moistey, chill out bruvathis site is gay, these word filters are getting out of hand
>>540571752Except for>Tobit>Judith>Wisdom of Solomon>Sirach (Ecclesiasticus)>Baruch>Letter of Jeremiah>1 Maccabees>2 Maccabees>Additions to Esther>Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Holy Children>Susanna>Bel and the Dragon>Shepherd of Hermas>Epistle of Barnabas>1 Clement>Didache>Apocalypse of Peter>Acts of Paul>Gospel of Peter>1 Enoch>Gospel of Thomas>Gospel of Judas>Book of Jasherapparently.
>>540572644I have been civil this entire thread without resorting to ad hominem when replying to you. I have simply stated the case, and moved on. You can choose to believe it or not, its totally up to you
>>540569675Another Victim of catholics. Yes Roman Catholicism is an man made heresy but what do you even want to get rid off to see the world more "real" what is your definition based off? The original sin is just an effect we are not boened in "sin" we are have a fallen nature because of the original sin meaning we can be tempted to sin. Eastern Orthodoxy is the true christianity. Get in touch with Jay Dyer's video or other Eastern Orthodox defender channeln to know that there is no contradiction with faith and intellect. Athiest have no grounding for universals their worldview makes it impossible to create any civilization. Also on what basis do yoi determine what is man made and what is not man made?
>>540572789Oh gee, thanks for explaining that to me is if I didn't know, so here I am saying I do disagree with you and that you're a liar.
>>540572877ok
>>540570008Atheist and LGBTQ promotion come out of the same sewer from the weimar germany by the "clique". Glownigger repeating the same loe over and over again. Faithful Judeans have converted to christians and those who rejected their god has become the rabbinic jews we know today. Never heard of history?
>>540569389>Under a more stoic and "real" point of view >Mahat (Cosmic Intelligence): Known as the "great principle," Mahat is the very first evolutionary product when unmanifest matter (Prakriti) is stirred by consciousness (Purusha). It is the blueprint of creation, holding the wisdom of the entire universe.>Buddhi (Individual Intellect): Buddhi is your personal inner wisdom, judgment, and the capacity to make decisions. It is an individualized drop of the great ocean that is Mahat.>In Hermeticism, the Logos is the divine, rational word and creative power bridging the transcendent universe (The All) and the human soul. It operates both outside the individual as an objective cosmic order and inside as an innate capacity for speech, reason, and awakening.>Hermes/Mercury travels between realms, the planetary energy of Mercury bridges the macrocosm (the divine divine source) and the microcosm (the human intellect).>Hermetic philosophy views the inner logos as the spark of divine reason residing inside humanity; Mercury governs the psychological and spiritual faculties required to perceive, translate, and internalize this higher truth.>In Vedic astrology, the planet Mercury (Budha) directly corresponds to buddhi (the intellect, analytical mind, and discriminative faculty).>In ancient Egyptian religion, the Memphite Theology describes Ptah creating the universe through the dual power of his heart (thought) and his tongue (speech).>In the Sumerian myth Enki and the World Order, the god Enki organizes the cosmos, establishes city-states, and regulates natural forces through the power of his speech.>Platos ideal transformation is the souls upward journey from the darkness of ignorance and sensory illusion into the light of ultimate truth and reason. Famously detailed in the Allegory of the Cave from The Republic, this transformation requires turning away from physical appearances to grasp eternal truths. Christianity is the same shit at the end of the day.
>>540570252The prideful aways thinks they know our religion better than us. It was the knowledge of good and evil. And the conscious disobidience and distrusting of the absolute good that was the point. Nobody was forbidden to ask God in humble heart to know more.
>>540573019>Atheist and LGBTQ promotion come out of the same sewerNo they don't. LGBT is Critical Theory. I'm sure you've heard of critical race theory by now, and this is critical sex/gender theory. It's literally Marxism, and it's a dogmatic ideology with rules and a leader who cannot be questioned. Atheism is a lack of belief in God.. I've dealt with you Christian shills trying to equate the two many times. You're trying to discredit atheism with thae false association.
>>540569389ACTUALLY /R/ATHEISM NOW LMAOOO
>>540570713The irony of an atheist to talk about objectivity
>>540573354>>540573227the irony of a kike to lecture anyone about being "prideful"
>>540569460>Almighty
>>540570740Have fun with hume's is-ought problem. There must be dogmas like Laws of Logic for example to even be able to know anything.
>>540569715Your simply a spiritual coward. Go to church and kneel goy
>>540572751This makes the Christcuck reeeeeeeeeee
>>540570778Your critical thinking stops at hume's is-ought problem just to feel prideful.
>>540570518Demonstrate miracle bud. Regrow my foreskin stolen by your gods racial kin
>>540573456> that pic Lmao
These christian haters are the same feeble infels that latch on to woman hating and other things, cuz of their failures they reject normal and good things and think it's the problem of their own misery. Very pitiful people.
>>540573601that's cute cope, anon. sad that you need to write little fictions to make yourself feel better because rational people don't worship your dead jew.
>>540570403Because you want everyone to be a noahide slave chimp
>>540569389Meditate and witness what is really there rather than rely on the testimony of others.
>>540570997>>540571169Either ask about these things at an Orthodoxy church the true christianoty or continue believing in the devils lie in pride
>>540569389Just be gay like the rest of your kind.
>>540570898>Objectively believes a jew is godCancer
>>540570812>Catholick
>>540573638 But u re the one making threads and crying about what other people do or wordhip. Clearly u re hurt. Coping u re better. Do tell me real life things where this enlightened atheism came in handy tho
>>540571225Half the OT is fraudulent. Christ quoted about Moses who didn't exist. Suck nigger toes like you betters
>>540573746you ok?
>>540571050I shit you not this retard thinks he knows what special christianity is while being a atheist.
>>540573788> You can't understand something unless you believe it's real! gaslightingThere is no special version of Christianity.
>>540573788I used to be christian.your kike ideology would be considered demonic by any spiritual standards.
>>540573787Can't u defend ur position? Same like incel that hates women and wish they all die. But when u ask him how society would function without them, they disappear and go jerk off to anime or smith. U offer nothing in return, u cannot show how what u preach would improve anything and u can't even give ur own anecdotes where u led by example. Just kvetching like some kike
>>540571744Yeah you are expert tell us what "real" christianity is.
>>540573720He's allowed to be wrong too.Did you know the pope has a priest he confesses to?
The Egyptian Book of the Dead describes the process through which the dead resurrect and become an immortal Akh, symbolized by the Ankh (Egyptian Cross) and is part of the "mysteries of Osiris". >In the ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead (specifically in spells mapping the afterlife), the soul faces the Seven Gates of the House of Osiris. To pass each gate and achieve resurrection. Hermeticism was created through blending Egyptian and Greek traditions, and one of the central themes is your own personal, inward ascent through the 7 planetary spheres to achieve rebirth. Its the same thing as the ascent that Plato described.
>>540573918the OP didn't make a thread about what other people believe, he was looking for information that might change what he believes and you kikes got butthurt about it.>Same like incel that hates women and wish they all die.>Can't u defend ur positionI don't need to, youre thrashing and projecting because you don't have an argument. you're so mad that someone doesn't believe your nonsense. why does it make you seethe so?
>>540574015There is no real Christianity. It's all fake. There's really just one religion with 3 sects - Christianity, Islam and judiasm. Gets purposely designed to have details that you can squabble over but it's all a lie. Magical zombie wizard jews aren't real.
>>540573720And you're a stinky kike so you can't really criticise my religion sweaty ;^)
>>540572109>>540572113>Bearing false witnessWe deserve better baits glowniggers
>>540574092> I'm not gaslighting your gaslighting!
>>540570097I don't really believe you. I never think about hell even though I probably am going there and I love the Lord. I can never relate to hellniggers.
>>540574179Stockholm syndrome
>>540569389Ask yourself why God would logically require fealty
>>540574048 Op is super retard. He is not magically bound by Christianity to do christian things, picking up a book of topic he is interesting has nothing to do with any religion. But if he struggles to find better alternatives to Christian world, then yeahe is in trouble, cuz even in this thread I re not helping him at all..u just kvetch and attack, but u have nothing to offer. Why would I be mad? I have no substance . Again I ask u, do give me ur personal anecdotes at least where ur religious thinking kept u down but ur enlightenment improved ur Life Soo much.
Meh some autocorrcts changed u to I. Hope u manage to understand
>>540572440Your holes in theology will ultimatively result in the rise of atheist as the eastern orthodox saint rightly predicted. Jesus died to defeat death(basically the original sin) so we might live to partake in god's divive energies so we might become godlike in heaven. Adam and Eve sinned not the whole humanity even tho we share their weakness. we still have freewill and should do no sin but that does not mean that we are guilty of the sin of adam and eve. Start learning about eastern orthodoxy.
>>540573254Frankfurter school made culture maxism and communist promote atheisim. I dont think i need elaborate. There is no "lack of believe in something" positions if you are not convinced of something doesn't give you an position retard your position would be i dont know as default. Atheist is defined as knowing there is no god fucking retard dont play wordgames.
>>540573429Glow more IDF.
>>540574796>Atheist is defined as knowing there is no god fucking retard dont play wordgames.lol no it isn't. Atheism isn't a declaration of knowledge, it is defined as a lack of belief. Agnosticism is related to knowledge, which makes agnostic atheism quite logical.>I cannot know if something exists, therefore I do not believe it exists.>>540574823>kike seethingI accept your concession.
>>540569389>satanic larp shityoure going to live inside the cube. until you die.
>>540574796>Atheist is defined as knowing there is no godIf this is true, then the existence of even one atheist is enough to disprove God's existence.>dont play wordgamesIt's fun thoughever
>>540574041Stop coping dude. Vatican 2 ended roman catholics even Vatican 1 cant save it because both says all must obey the infalliable pope. Seek Eastern Orthodoxy as the true church. Please seek the truth i pray for your jouney
>>540569389>how do i free myself from the Christianity religious dogma?Kinda easy desu1) Don't take "just trust me bro" as truth2) Only believe what you see and touch, think logically3) Admit that magic isn't real, only physical elements and forces are which can be measured to a degree4) Be a decent human being out of your own choice, not by the threat of damnation
>>540573883>>540574064You are refuting yoir own arguments. This is the level of the atheist.
>>540569389I’ll help you, take it or leave it: it’s the jews. The jews have total irrevocable control over most of the goyim, likely some whom you know yourself—the shitty people. Cut them loose unless you need money from them and then, still, distance yourself until you can let them go completely. Then after a time we will kill the jews and be thinking about what to do with their servants who will never be fit for a society. You are now a battery like the Matrix and you have to break free from it. Once a critical mass of enough of us being free is achieved, so will our victory. This is the truth and all that matters and if you ignore it, you will be swept up in the consequences. Good luck, faggot
>>540574966Lmao never had any thoughts in your brain? People might claim to know things and have false position dude are you this disconnected to reality?
>>540569389Remove yourself from Catholicism. Start reading the Bible instead. Learn that The Bible, the whole Bible, and nothing but the Bible is the only way to free yourself from Catholic dogma.That is partially the reason why Protestantism is so successful. None of the traditions, even if they are grounded in Christianity, matter that much.Following every letter of the Bible is the only thing that truly matters. There is no reason to pray to the angels or Mary mother of God. The only practice Christians need to do is to gather together to talk about and worship God and perform baptism ceremonies. Everything else was tacked on either out of trying to help convert non believers (holiday traditions) or ways to stimulate good natured activity in believers (charity, social programs)
>>540575187>are you this disconnected to realitysays the kike who thinks heaven exists and that it is about becoming godlike
>>540575002Yeah and who defines logic? And standrants by you measure what ought to be? What if your measurement only pesist withhin your senses?
>>540575022No I'm not. There is no such thing as real Christianity. Stop lying.
>>540575293>Yeah and who defines logic?Stop trying to mince basic words. It's dishonest. Google the definition of the word for yourself
>>540575289Yes God is generous. I pray for you even though you are a glownigger. Jesus only ask for your willingness to change your heart so that he can heal your whole being.
>>540575436> Just believe in magical wizard zombie juice from 2000 years ago! That's all he asks! Lol
>>540575312>>540575342The truth is open in the sun only yourself is to blame to not read and seek in good faith.
>>540575436like I said earlier: I already tried that. my life greatly improved once I dropped the delusion.I'm happy for you if your religion makes you happy but the problem with christians is that their hypocritical arrogance, believing that their pretend magic man is the only right answer while viewing everyone else as eternally-condemned morons.you wouldn't seethe so much about people finding other belief systems if you were truly happy with yours.
>>540575511Magical wizard zombie jews aren't real, anon.
>>540574071>book written infallible by God>but leaders aren't Lmao christgoy
>>540575554Happiness shouldn't be the goal. Ignorance can easily be bliss, but it causes you to be dishonest which causes harm to others by misleading them.
>>540575022Demonstrate Jew zombie
>>540570097Mortal sin = turning your back on God (you can't turn around again until you choose to (repent)).Venial sin = stumbling (you can get back up).>If I do any sinFor a sin to be mortal, it requires three criteria: you have to know it's a sin, you have to freely choose to do it anyway, and it has to be a grave matter.>knowingly litteringDick move, but not grave matter.>killing someoneYou freely chose to commit the sin of murder, then yeah, that's going to stick with you.Just don't sin.>muh masturbationIt's arguable that the rampant hormonal mess isn't really "freely choosing", at least for some people. Yeah raping someone isn't really something you can easily excuse though.>ahhh I may do something bad :(Just don't. You can get into a car accident and kill someone too but you probably don't avoid driving.
>>540575002The problem I have with this viewpoint is that you believe humans to be infallible and that the science is settled. We know nothing of the cosmos let alone our world let alone the microscopic world. The whole concept of the earth age and the age of living and non living things is the definition of just trust me bro.Logic itself is the funniest and easiest chain to attack in your sentiments because it is a purely hypothetical concept. Logic itself doesn't exist in the physical world. Yet you only want to believe what you can see and touch. You are hypocritical. Thought itself is invisible, you only know it exists because you can think. Every single action we can perform is due to magic that humans have tried to quantify and pigeonhole into the natural state of being. Decency is something that can only be transferred from someone or something that knows right or wrong. It is the complete and utter hubris of man that makes him think that he has the ability to judge decency, let alone become decent. If you really are from Estonia, you have failed to learn from your Christian ancestors.
>>540575557Oh yes they are. Not just jews, though, though likely all jews.
>>540575200Yeah just ignore that it was the catholic church that wrote the bible.>protestantism is so successful that's why they openly celebrate gay women priests (anglicanism) and remove crosses from the church so that muslims feel more welcome.
>>540573672As a citizen of one of the most atheistic countries on earth, your pic is entirely untrueI know literally nobody who supports faggotry except a group of brainwashed women, which is understandable because they are womenYou christcucks always use this excuse to make yourself feel righteous and less degenerate when it's simply an overexaggeration to make non-cultist sane people look bad
>>540575187I took what you said literally as a joke instead of inferring what you surely intended by it, that atheism is *claiming* to know that there is no God. But even that's wrong. Agnostic atheism is a thing, and imo it's probably the most common type of atheism for sufficiently broad definitions of "god" (that word can get very fuzzy).To see how agnostic atheism could be thing, all it takes is recognizing that it's possible to believe something while admitting that you could be wrong about it. You'd think Christians would understand this given how the religion is based in large part around "believing" something, like that there was a guy named Jesus who was raised from the dead, in the absence of truly satisfactory evidence for it, which precludes knowing. "Blessed are those who believe without seeing." Of course, there are more ways to decide what to believe than making an arbitrary choice among the possibilities or choosing whatever emotionally appeals to you. For example, you can also decide to believe whatever you think is most probable given the evidence you're aware of, even if the evidence isn't decisive. That seems to be how most people at least aspire to try to choose their beliefs when it comes to most practical subjects."To believe means to accept something as true, real, or correct, often without absolute proof. It can also mean to trust someone's word, hold an opinion, or have religious faith."
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>>540575557>>540575595You dont get to deny that there is not special christianity or real and not real christianity when your statement used against me included that there is. And now you act like a child and claim that there is no christianity when pressed so what are we even talking about at this point? Saying all is fake bro dont help the conversation if you have ever learned to sociallize constructively you would know.Eastern Orthodox is a clear position which you dont even dare to look into because of your guilt and comfort in sin.
>>540575784Look there are many that come but few are chosen. Jesus will separate the goats from the lambs on the day of judgement. Those Synagogues of Satan will be cast into the eternal burning lake of hell. But, here is the best part. A Catholic can and will go to Heaven if they follow the Bible and believe that Jesus died and resurrected for their sins. But the OP doesn't want the dogma anymore, he lives in Italy which is overwhelmingly Catholic and they are the ones that have a strict adherence to extrabiblical traditions. The extra stuff that Catholics believe won't send them to hell. It just won't get them extra benefits. It can also bog down people like OP that may have noticed that most of the stuff the Catholic church codifies into their daily beliefs are just extras that don't have much to do with accepting Jesus into your life.
>>540569389Top believing Jewish fairy tales its not hard
>>540575743>Logic itself doesn't exist in the physical world>Thought itself is invisible, you only know it exists because you can think>Every single action we can perform is due to magic that humans have tried to quantify and pigeonhole into the natural state of being>Decency is something that can only be transferred from someone or something that knows right or wrong.Yeeeaaaa... you are retarded.
>>540575293Stop trying to word crunch simplicity to lead a narrative faggot, i meant what i said.What you can see, touch and measure is reality, not some delusional all-being you christfags cry about.
>>540575849There is satisfactory for the resurrection for Jesus.The biggest one piece of evidence is that the Roman guards stationed near his tomb would've been murdered by decree of the Roman empire if they allowed robbers to enter the tomb and take the body of Jesus.
>>540575784No it was holy catholic orthodox church when it was written it's name then became the eastern orthodox church after the catholic added dogmas and vatican 1 and 2 claim papal infalliability and supremacy over other churches which the church that wrote the bible did not have! Roman Catholicism is heresy. I pray for your journy to seek the eastern orthodox church.
>>540575743Nice wall of text. Logic is a process that we use to reason things out. We define the variables in the present moment is we discuss topics. Example ; IF you fall off your bike THEN you'll probably hurt yourself. You have to mince the basic definitions of words because your entire belief system is based on lies
>>540576159Couldn't come up with a reply so you hit meme arrows? Yikes...
>>540575947>You dont get to deny that there is not special christianityYes I do because magical wizard zombie jews aren't real. It's a lie.
>>540569460>Do you just want to be miserable and angry alm the time?There are plenty of Christians who are miserable and angry all the time
>>540576229>you gotta go to the right church, the others are heresy! nevermind that other churches also say mine is heresychristianity is such a divisive religion. no unity, only judgement and deflection. such is the way of abrahamics.
>>540576264>>540576244Your dishonesty doesn't deserve a proper reply, but I gave you one anyways because I know you're gaslighting and hoping people will check out so you can claim victory.
>>540576214Avoiding questions by answering reality is reality bro. Best Atheist argument i must admit.
>>540576244Can you show me logic. A picture of it in the natural world?
>>540576335I already answered your question.
>>540576244>Begging the questionLearn logical fallacies first before you talk you infant.
>>540576264It's just that you can't win an argument against retards so there is no point. The sooner anyone learns that the more they save their time.
>>540576310So are you confirming you are double accounting by being estonia anon and canada anon? I understand, you are a scripted bot.
>>540576371You're just making things up
>>540576264Also this>>540576310
>>540576396You're absolutely shameless as always
>>540569715>I live my life based on Jewish fairy tales and the teachings of an egalitarian communist RabbiOy vey, what a mensch!
>>540576408>>540576408Now he's claiming we're the same person because we agree with each other. Three bunch of snively little shitheads aren't they
>>540569389>how do I free myself from the Christianity religious dogma? I want to break freeJust stop being a religious nut and inform us WHY on earth you chose to become religious??
>>540570748lol, nobody care and your'e mad, dumb ass
>>540569777Trips of truth
>>540576311I've argued with you christfags enough on this board to know that there is never winning an argument against you because you are sinply retarded. At least with intelligent people you can reach a concensus on a disagreement but you people keep stretching with delusional takes until the thread gets archived or you simply stop responding. Every. Time.
>>540572440You absolutely shit in the face of the Most High every time you tell stupid, retarded, idiotic, violent, nonsensical, hideous stories about YOUR nature which you project on IT. Then cover it up with a bunch of nonsensical stories that somebody pulled out of their ecclesiastical ass and shoved down your child throat. In my oldfag life I've met exactly two "Christians" who actually loved and honored "God." I.e., the highest state of being or consciousness or whatever it is. Anybody who mutilates the penises of infant boys, and claims it's the command of some imaginary sky daddy, is a psychopath who needs to be eradicated from decent society.
>>540576225IIRC, Mark, Luke, and John don't mention the guards. Only Matthew does. So there's a good possibility that the author of Matthew simply made it up as an apologetic. If you want to take for granted that the author of Matthew was telling the truth about everything, then you don't even need to bring up the guards. "Look, it says Jesus was resurrected right there! Do you really think the author of Matthew would do that, just grab a bottle of ink and write lies?"
>>540576379I think the reality of the situation is that you got called out as a hypocrite and didn't have a response to it so you just flashed the retard insult to try to escape your loss. You don't seem to want to think about anything. Why are you arguing when you don't have any substance to your point.
>>540576589The religion is designed that way on purpose. It's designed to keep people arguing for thousands of years. The Bible was written by jewish lawyers like come on. They made it wishy-washy on purpose. I've seen Christians bring four versions of the Bible into a debate. It's silly.
>>540569675It's interesting how it's mostly sharts and memeflags replying that you should abandon Christianity. Their dominant religion is a pseudo-Christian cult called Evangelism that worships jews.Have you tried talking to an Orthodox priest? Whereas Catholicism is literally a political organization, Orthodoxy is a spiritual hospital, designed primarily for self-improvement.
>>540569389understand physics. Don't focus on math, that'll drive you insane if you study deep enough, but physics? Physics, especially applied physics is grounded in logic and reality, what can be measured and applied to real life, stay away from theoretical physics too, that'll drive you mad as well... You know what? Just stick to mechanical engineering, too many people notice things they can't explain, and suddenly they're writing papers about string theory. Fuck it, just go to church man, if you can't figure out metaphysical phenomena is fake then the church deserves you.
>>540569389i got you, OPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E15IC3YKv8g&list=RDE15IC3YKv8g&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kR9y6vKdNQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2u7JZck_I
>>540576454That's the problem on this board, every time a christcuck starts to feel cornered they start schizo-ing and calling you jew/bot/gaytheist etc.I'd just call them faggots and be done with it.
>>540576685Your pose can be summed up as > That's not real Christianity! But there is no real Christianity. Magical wizard jews aren't real.
>>540570202>yes, sa- I mean, fellow whites. It's those pesky Christians, not jeets
>>540576765>you're a jeet if you don't worship a jew!
>>540576745It's a pretty textbook way to shut down a discussion that you don't like.
>>540576619Let's go from a neutral view of the situation. The romans just tried and executed a person for being the King of the Jews. From the roman perspective and the perspective of the people that want him dead and the perspective of the people that want him alive. The romans would want to make sure there are guards surrounding the tomb to make sure no funny business occurs like his followers taking the corpse and telling people he still lives. The pharsisees would want a simillar situation to occur. The people who loved him would at least want to make sure his corpse wasnt robbed or desecrated. So what makes you believe the testimony was false?
>>540576653>The religion is designed that way on purposeI know. I'm learning about cults as a hobby and their characteristics. Every religion started as a cult, therefore every religion IS a cult, the only difference being that there are more people in a religion and you can't disprove a religion anymore because of time.Modern cults are always ran by schizophrenics, pedophiles and con-men. Therefore Jesus, MoHAMmad etc. were also cult leaders and just brainwashed people into worshipping them. They weren't special in any way. They just claimed to be and retards took their word as truth.
>>540576909You're absolutely right, religions are cults. Simple as.
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>>540576745>>540576842That's cute you started talking to yourself.
>>540569389be american. ralph waldo emerson eased americans into atheism by simply saying that he didnt recognize jesus as divine. this is a nice comfortable soft statement for easing someone into the reality... OF THE CHAOS OF THE UNIVERSE
>>540576706gay faggot shit
>>540576972> straight up gaslighting I know you're not a shizo. You're doing this on purpose, hoping it'll make people emotional because it does quite often, because acting annoying on purpose makes people angry
>>540576842And then they start another identical discussion hoping they will win this time instead of considering themselves being wrong.That's the main problem and main reason you can't deprogram a christcuck cultist. Their belief is so symbiotically attached to their ego they'd rather die than admit being mistaken.
>>540577041A lot of them are scammers who know their religion is fake. Is a trillion dollar industry.
>>540576806>a leaf flag blaming the sudden influx of anti-Christian threads on ChristiansYeah, you're a jeet.>>540576745I'm not calling you a jeet, I know that most Balts are not Christians because they were introduced to Christianity through Teutonic knights and then the Russian empire that occupied them. So to them, Christianity is an enemy.
>>540569389Sorry, you have to diy. Start from: abiogenesis is a hypothesis.
>>540569389Commune with actual existence. Observe the solstices and equinoxes.
>>540576972Fuck off faggot. Go pray.
>>540577077Christianity is a trillion dollar industry, and it's professional level brainwashing. Yes, Christians play little mind games hoping to snag a gullible retard, or a vulnerable child, or a senior citizen on their deathbed wgo is partially senile and scared of dying soon. You're basically predators
>>540572613>At a cosmic scale were dust mites on a mossy particle floating in a cloud of dust.Abrahamic bullshit.Each one of us is a cosmos. That we haven't even begun to explore. If we are dust, then the tip of a dick is even less important.Abrahamics have always derided and degraded life. And never answered the genuine deep hard questions people have that point in the direction of embiggening. That may even apply to other than human life. Maybe they can't ask questions in the human way, but they have their lives and their being and it's all a mystery to anyone honest.That's always been my biggest gripe with ALL churches, ALL denominations. They claim to know things that there is no way anyone could know, least of all a bunch of shit stomping goat ropers from sandbox agriculture-and-irrigation-based cities of Xty thousand years ago. >>540572643The way Abrahamics reduce the Most High to caricatures and psychopaths has always pissed me off. We can barely know the wonder of one grain of sand, but they claim to have it all figured out: Fifty Shades of Sky Daddy.
>>540576957This was needed in this thread. Never a belief system, only a criticism of it. At least when they tried implying that Hinduism was white, you knew who you were dealing with.
>>540577077I have no enemies, i just don't like people who claim magic and magical beings to be real. Normally people like that would be sent to a mental checkup but because majority of earth's population consists of schizophrenic cultists we need to tolerate them rather than fix them.Kinda like we are forced to tolerate transvestites in modern day and age.
>>540577186Magical zombie wizard jews aren't real. That is a statement which is true by itself.
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>>540577205You're based, and I'm going to let them have the last word now because it's bedtime. Take care of yourself
>>540577278Man i'm just waking up, it's 9:15 in the morning here
>>540569389If you can't "free" yourself already you may not be able to understand how you would feel if you didn't have breakfast yesterday.
>>540577186>>540576957>Never a belief systemsad non sequitur. OP asked for literature or media on other belief systems and christkikes seethed, opening their belief system to criticism. but of course, they can't handle it and must make blanket condemnations. never offering a reason to believe their fairy tale and only casting judgement and condemnation.there are numerous posts offering alternative belief systems, and christkikes seethe and condemn them all. you're a liar and it's not your fault: you're a kike, after all.
>>540575743>you believe humans to be infallible and that the science is settled.You projected that onto anon.Anon didn't say that.YOU are the one who believes truth is settled and humans can be infallibly guided to it.You are dishonest and manipulative. And, I suspect, a female. Abrahamism has always been a passive-aggressive, manipulative, overdramatic, martyrdom-based system.
>>540577205>>540577215Lol, same language, sam "logic". Okay, I'll just carry on like this
>>540576652I think what i said. You can't win an argument against retards. It's that simple. Dude dismissing my green arrows without reconsidering why i green arrowed them in the first place is enough to conclude that he's retarded and not worth arguing with.
>>540569389read the fucking Bible. make it fun, nigga. There's AI fuck casuals
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>>540577407I never condemned the Italian for asking, just advised him to try Orthodoxy, the purest no-nonsense form of Christianity that doesn't just use your beliefs for political power. I condemned those who accused him of being a Christian wanting other Christians to strengthen his faith.
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>>540576763There's no real paganism or atheism either, dipshit.
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>>540577444We have concluded in present day that magic isn't real. Therefore miracles that are written about by Jewsus worshippers like yourself isn't evidence that magic is real. And because magic isn't real then your screencap has no argumental power.You are literally claiming that magic is real because jews wrote that a jew did magic long time ago.I admit magic is real when i see some fucking magic.
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>>540577717>the puresyea yea, you and every other division of your abrahamic nonsense.
>>540577792There are no first hand witnesses about Jesus. Everything writen about him was written after his death.And this golden hair Jesus is proven to be based on Caesare Borgia.Damned retards will eat up every lie if it is put into stupid image.
>>540577786>We have concluded in present day that magic isn't real>>540577408>You projected that onto anon>Anon didn't say that.The other anon's claim was that >you believe humans to be infallible and that the science is settledI think you yourself are an agnostic but the the guy double posting as the estonian and canadian fully believe in what he says.
>>540576478Yeah because either trollzoring people and belching out 'u-mad," or feeling giddy feels is what truly matters above all else isn't it you actual dumb chan-monkey. Real deep stuff you got here. The only dumbass here is you nosepicking mental child.Other people are arguing about metaphysics itt with this spiritual coon. What I'm saying is, I don't care what he believes, I care what it leads to in turn.And what is it that he does offer. What does he instantly resort to as his defense when addressed in that way. I'll sum it up;Essentially it amounts to crossing your eyes like a little retard, prancing and skipping through life giggling like a dumb teenage girl, and to not worry about this world. Oh this world doesn't matter, just giggle-fart through life like a 10 iq well fed nigger or petted family dog because I love me some Jesus.Wow. How potent.How about fuck that. How about gtfo of this world already, considering how above it all you think you are.It's no wonder these bastards are letting the entire Western world fall into degeneracy and it's going to hell.They're like some elderly crusty old woman, only concerned with looking nice and morally proper. Oh sonny, if I act that way someone is going to be impressed and convert and be like me. Well fuck you I don't want your moral example and I don't want your music box giggle-joys.Get that out of my face. Insulting.There's people molesting children and niggers invading by hundreds of millions and these fags are focused on is how kind they can be.How that makes them feel.I'm sure that gives them a real twitch in the cock. All that smarmy effeminate bullshit.Frankly I see their motivations, basically identical to an Epicurean with extra steps.It isn't about the talking to a snake or 6000 year earth stuff, whatever go argue with someone else on that. It's the fact you're all just a buncha niggers.Die already and go to your paradise because you're not "salt of the earth" you make it worse.
>>540578160>double posting as the estonian and canadianI thought already told you to fuck off with this gaslight shit faggot.
>>540569629Film Actor's Guild?
>>540576229The point is, eastern and catholic were the same at that point; i.e. sola scriptura is nonsense.Traditions matter, and besides the two are in union now so whatever
>>54057020259 posts..... just sayin
>>540571107Jesus said it himself, the lake of fire.
>>540569389Just become a rightoid grifter, same as anyone else who is successful on social media right now. I doubt any of those people are religious in any capacity and just learned to leech off of retarded normies.
