>just shoot the drone harder bro
looks like retards doing reatrd shit, an old ww2 battleship cannon with bee-hive shells is the way. shit i bet even a flamethrower would do.
>>540572695Skill issue. All I would need is a Mossberg 500 and bird shot and I would shoot down any drone nigger with ease
those were short bursts. maybe they should try miniguns with buckshot or something >one shot! one kill!>line of CIWSlmao
I still like the idea of duct taping firebombs to bats It has that cartoony element to it
FUCK OFF those closeups look like the second renaissance
>>540572695bullet hell games were a training sim prep for future warfare
>>540573061and the top gamers will be hired as drone pilots. E3 will become a recruiting ground for the military-industrial-complex
>>540573090kek not E3, i mean Evo
>>540572695Hear me out miniguns that shoot nets
>>540572841Newest Raytheon Phalanx CIWS block has new electronics specifically for drone detection and its been a massive failure. Whatever the answer is its not taking old shit and trying to reconfigure it to be your anti-drine defense but something totally new
>>540573208bolo miniguns
Wasn't there a movie recently of army soldiers shooting down drones with m4s and shotguns in a trench.
>>540573090surely to harvest data to train the actual flight controller
>>540573315>Gaytheon>didn’t work Holy heckin unexpected batman
>>540573315Drone gunship. Current firing angles are insufficient
>>540572695That doesn't seem like it works very well.I bet the counter to drones will be guided bullets. Basically, we're miniaturizing aerial combat to the point where we will have drone dogfights and SAM's (said bullets)
>>540572695>gunner playing galaga >drone pilot playing touhou
>>540572695Reverse Magnetic Clubs.Drone Baseball.
>>540572695https://youtu.be/iAI6uft4GPo?t=21
>>540572695>about 8 giant stationary guns shooting at a highly concentrated cluster of drones high in the sky that aren't even moving>only gets about half of themIn real life those drones would scatter and come in from all angles and directions, people on the ground won't know where and when they're coming, and even a single one of those guns is too big to be lugged around by a small infantry squad.
>>540572695That dude with the rifle ...>Look! I´m a PDC!!XD
>>540573685yes! you have grasped the point of this thread.
>>540572695Make the bullets blow up into nets
>>540572695>eight guns using shittons of lead barely take out a handful from a slow moving formation in perfect weatherUnimpressive. What happens when there's thousands of them buzzing around at 500mph?
>mfw living through the transition period where warfare is becoming centered around drones>mfw the internet is flooded with horrific videos of soldiers begging for their lives before someone simply presses a button to simply drop a grenade on them
So basically, dont use guns against drones?
>>540572695Have they never heard of EMP? Why not just build a missile that detonates a massive EMP burst and shoot it in to the swarm to disable all of them instantly?
>>540573856hell, just launch a giant net out there. A rocket powered net
Only 400,000 yards away with the MOST accurate Chinese gun on earth. Wow this PROVES drones are a big deal, better buy more and stop making guns and bombs! Thanks, dumb fucking shitskin chinks!
i guess we need to invest in long range microwaves or some sort of Area directed EMP
>>540574365Or just buy some $50 temu drones and fly them to crash into the enemy drones.
>>540574225>why not design a man portable device that doesn't work against hardened electronics>and if it did it would disable their own stuffI don't know why they bother recruiting people from elite colleges, they should just find random dry-wall installers with some videogame expertise to handle these things.
>>540572946FAURK
>>540574497just build big nets so the drones can't fly through lmao
>>540572795I feel like one good burst of a flak shell with a modern proximity trigger combined with a computer driven FCS would have taken down that cloud of drones in one go.Damage radius on one of those things is like 15 meters.
>>540572695worst korea is really fucking stupid and worst
>>540572695>RETVRN TO FLAKCome home White man
>>540574535>one drone blows up a hole in the net>the rest fly throughwhat now, genius?
>>540573090>the top gamers will be hiredthats not how the miltiary worksthe military trains people if you come pretrained the military cannot use you because you are no longer moldablethe military trains their own top gamers
>>540572695autonomous interceptor drones solve this
>>540572837Until they armor the drones at least lol
>>540574660tungsten nets
>>540573685the entire point was to show how useless current conventional weapons are against drone swarms.
>>540572695At this point why not use a punt gun?
>>540573315flak guns need to make a comeback
>>540574821You can't make a net out of tungsten, it's too hard and brittle.
>>540572695They must design better countermeasures than this.
>>540572695drones aren't even movingyou could circle around or go high above clouds and they wouldn't even see what hit them.
>>540574933alloys
>>540574826If that was the intention then they did a good job.Unfortunately the webm doesn't include the context.
>>540572695>defeats your drone army
>>540574055A zigger that dies painfully is a good zigger.
>>540572695That's terrifyingThat's the best they can do with that many miniguns side by side with that many drones in a stationary hover, what happens when they're moving aroundholy shit, whoever refines mass industrialized scale drone warfare is going to rule the world, you can't beat this on the battlefield, you have to destroy the manufacturing sites, before it even starts
>>540572695>One shot! One kill!This is a hilarious slogan for a rotary cannon platoon.
>>540574225EMPs are a meme and don't work like that. They need the power grid to act as an antenna that creates a power surge. They don't work on things that run on batteries.
>>540572695>battery of miniguns >still miss>here is a rifle and a helmet now go charge that Drone swarmGrim
>>540572695Why does ranged flak work?
>>540572837The worls champion skeet shooting tested this. He got droned on his first try. In combat you don't get a second try
>>540572937If you think about it, modern drone warfare is basically just that. Except now we can tell the bat exactly where to go. And it's not alive.
>>540572695Why waste money on bullets? Just send Ukies to absorb the drones. Ukies are free.
>>540574934>betterdefine better
They are know nothing retards. Look at his confidence too, meathead shit for brains. Hope they enjoy lithium fish on top of their Fukushima 3 meltdowns + 4spent fuel pools completely incinerated and fallout allover. On top of getting droned now. What a waste and all that crap right in the ocean, what idiots, just so they don't have to clean it up. As bad as jeets, confident too, see. We'll have fun playing gi Joes kids. They got the winning ticket/short straw.... You know, the thing.
>>540574670yeah thats why they have a history of turning away people who have been firing rifles on the farm since age 10. "sorry. youre already a great shit.vwe cant use you."ya fucking retard
>>540573315It's either going to be something like airburst flak or microwave guns. My bet is on high power microwave guns because a drone can't dodge the speed of light.
>>540575204sick and perverted to make fun of press gangs
>>540574536>>540574641you two are going to love this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGd-5hdEPOI
>>540575224Meds. Take them.
>>540575225>firing rifles on the farm since age 10>the top gamers will be hired as drone pilotsno wonder you lick boots
>>540572695needs more chaos theory
>>540574771heavy enough armour to stop conventional munitions would render most drones too heavy to fly, and the ones that can still fly would be significantly slowed down, they won't be chasing down vehicles or infantry if they have thick enough armour to deter pretty much any bullet caliber. Start adding explosives and other weapons on top of armour and even the best drones won't be zipping around anymore. Most of the reason drones have taken off is because of the high mobility, and speed. >>540574952nigger the context is the visuals of machine gun saturation not even clearing out half a drone swarm that's sitting still. WW1/2 era flak munitions might be a solid option against drones, especially if you rig them with proximity triggers. Between the shrapnel and the blast radius you'll clear out much more of a swarm with a flak battery than you will MG fire. >>540574952>one drone blows up the net>the rest fly throughNets are the same as the cope cages the Ukies and Russians were putting on tanks. >One drone eliminates the armour>another one gets the kill>both drones cost less than 50k combined >a focus group of retards making 6 to 7 figure salaries spent months in paid "brainstorming" meetings to come up with cope cages and nets that get BTFO'd anyway
>>540575208>Number 207also>Russians start sinking every grain shipment lmao it's just getting ludicrous now neither side can stop the other.
>>540572695>product of millions of years of evolution>or god's finest creation, whichever>highest known intelligence in the universe>best we can do against drone tech is shoot bullets at them, something invented 400 years agoDo humans really?
>>540572695Koreas not using their talents right. They should have their gamers just control their own drone swarms in a top down view on a computer and out micro the enemy drones. They simply never developed their macro well enough to take innefficient trades like this.
>>540572695Did everyone forget about flak cannons?
>>540574951>MuH AlLoYsName ONE alloy thats able to make a flexible net that won't be destroyed by a drone payload.
>>540575409>getting ludicrousludicrous like >>540572946pic related ?haha yeah are you not entertained enough yet ?
>>540574225bruh i think your IQ is zero.
>>540575445Use drones to hunt drones using humans is just nonsense at this point.
>>540575515the low iq problem is more terrifying than "ai" enhanced quadcopter drones
ranging into flack. every fireworks show you've seen in your life has a solid-state answer.modern versions are self timing.
>>540572695Looks like real life advanced wars lol.Now the drones will make a few of the guns fall off the screen. Then the guns get fired again.
>>540575502No, it's that they think there is a counter. It is like a pandoras box now.
>>540575441yes, apparently we did. nobody knows how to make them, so Cuba will be the only nation remaining.I honestly blame jews. Lockheed, Boeing, General Dynamics, they are intentionally ignoring the most simple solutions.Not that flack is fun, it's suck where it ends up.
Just kill everyone and you don't need drones. >>That's the planOh.
>>540572837Stfu you fat retard.
>>540575091>what happens when they're moving aroundI don't think it would matter since it's still just random bullets hitting random spots. the ratio and likelihood wouldn't alter.still, no one would use drones in a close formation anyway>drone attack formationsha
>>540575657ding!drones are available to anyone. shotguns are sold at walmart yet.a strong common rotary base can be found in at least quads on any standard automobile in the US.
>>540575627>pandoras boxi know thats why i am terrified by the state of the "institutions" in charge this is not going to end well
>>540572695reminder, drones can be built by anyone with a modest budget, including every single person reading this message, and those guns cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and fire tens of thousands of dollars of ammunition in their failed attempt to wipe out the drones. The existence of drones is a massive boon for freeedom fighters anywhere, it's the AK47 of the modern era and it means the elitee will always be reachable for the foreseeable future. vidrel invading kike larpers being turned into yummy drone food.
>>540574641>>RETVRN TO FLAKlaser flak is where it's at.
>>540575774That's why zog banned basically all drones, even though it killed our domestic drone industry and left our military vulnerable.
Yeah that shit overheats and runs out in 1 day
They should ask Russia if they can buy their three bullet bullets to fire from miniguns.
>>540575774fucking zoomer spastic holy fuck you are so dumb and gullible absolutely amazing "drones" are being misused as terror weapons >drones can be built by anyone with a modest budget, including every single person reading this messageyou are a fucking buyfagdo the needful
>>540575833>That's why zog banned basically all drones, even though it killed our domestic drone industry and left our military vulnerable.I don't think zog can ban small electric motors and basic computer equipmentanyone with a 3d printer and 4 electric motors can build a drone.
>>540575897>"drones" are being misused as terror weaponsonly in Ukraine.
>>540572837>Mossberg 500Your shell stop bar will bend if you shoot that POS under stress then you're fucked.
>>540572695wonder why they're not making some programmable fuse flak system with a target rangefinder system that's optimized to lock drones. I thought they'd have that shit done and miniaturized down to the shotgun level by now.
>>540574225Why don't they just invent bullets that target drone DNA and autolock onto them like the Smartgun in Alines.
>>540572695You could do this with a slingshot, I've seen the movies
>>540575706they are going to hook this shit up to an AGI that has the emotional intelligence of a retard child and an inability to learn outside of preprogramed boundaries. It will go rogue because our leaders will just double down on their stupidity and arrogance and employ its use across larger sectors of society from warfare to law enforcement until eventually we are all consumed under it's microscope. And our leaders will do this, they are retards that can't admit they are wrong and compromise. Any concessions they make is always accompanied by seething so it is not genuine in the slightest. All because they can't say>fuck, is what i am doing wrong, should i really open this box.No, it is just immediate gloating followed by seething when it is turned on them.
>>540572695Flak cannons exist
>>540572695going to need something with aoe damage that you can trigger remotely not on contact, get the weapon whether you use a missle or w/e delivery system get it within range of the cloud of drones detonate and blow the cloud of drones out of the air, or some kind of jamming technology or electrical interference of some kind to knock them out of the air.
>>540576397thisjust hit them with glue bombs or something
>>540575204Are these russians? This is going to be very funny once Putin starts a widescale draft too.
They know you watch. They don't care. How it will affect you, when you are just sitting outside in your yard, or on a bench, or going for a walk and a drone comes. Makes you wonder what they were doing in the USA with all that ....activity, not so long ago. Mostly east coast, but not all.
>>540576486maybe some kind of static discharge weapon or some shit im not even sure anything like that exists but something that can remotely trigger some kind of electrical interference with those drones in proximity of them would destroy them completely and ruin their guidance systems and navigation.
I take drones as death threats btw just fyi in my bubble. Some issues. Big ones.
>>540576486miniguns are single target dps thats not going to be effective against a mobile drone swarm it was a terrible idea, you need something with aoe coverage and isn't cumbersome and hard to maneuver you're going to have to make something agile that can trigger an aoe.
>>540575188Link, provide a video or a source
One was watching me mow my lawn the other year. I did not have recourse... A lot of people are not smart and use them to annoy people....or worse, as you've all seen.
>>540576736you need your own the only counter is to fuck with the other.
>>540574641Artillery observation balloon + flak = picrel
>>540576051I think the preferred defense in wars of scription... Is none. To get the "job" done.
>>540572695>they killed 9 out of 38 from my countrip better luck next time.
>>540576665the drones will just spread out. I don't know what is worse.
Flying niggers.
>>540576544>>540576665I think you want cone shaped charges. Basically you launch your glue ball with a rotation and timed detonation so that it fires in a particular direction that you choose and goops them up and they fall
>>540572695Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt!
>>540574007>Unimpressive. What happens when there's thousands of them buzzing around at 500mph?>What happens when there's thousands of them buzzing around at 500mph?You utilize nuclear weapons against the major cities of the enemy deploying the drones.
>>540572695useless gattling guns, our flak tank shoots down 6 drones with just one shot. automatic ai targetting and automatic explosive ammunition with correct milisecond timing.these koreans have 1960 tech, this is pathetic.
>>540575208whoa just like mah acecombat
chang what the fak are you idiots doing with all the iq points. youre not using them. there must be a failure somewhere. its either you asians are not so smart like you claim or the iq tests are wrong. what is it.
>>540572695a real war with china will have 10000+ drones in the sky btw
>>540574934Going underground
>>540576397Maser, also India did one thing.. they made some kind of particle gun... Think giant cathode ray tube gun, like the old CRT TV's, those had a particle gun in them. Nasty stuff I take it.
>>540573090The Last Starfighter
seems like a waste of drones each one of those coulda blown up a russian walmart
i cant even laugh about this because its so retarded.even our old 1960 gepard tanks are used in ukraine to shoot down drones AND missiles.the flak tanks we have now are literal alien tech.
I'm going to invest in net companies
The vid above that someone posted isreal is confirmed to have a very effective laser solution to the small stuff, ballistics not so much as those can be modified somewhat to handle the abuse.
what the fak are the gaysians doing and their games suck giant cock also. fuking idiots. maybe we were all wrong and youre just retards.
>>540577168the flak we have is super effective. 5000/per shot. a patriot missile is 4 million, one shot.
>>540577168there is no DEFENSE thats more effective than german flak. show me what you have.
>>540572695So what if you only have one minigun and the drones don't just float menacingly in the air? Maybe skimming the tree-tops and coming from multiple directions?
>>540576665well they were designed for helicopters and low flying aircraft so
uh oh some germans having a melty
>>540576665Simple counter: Disperse the drones. Now your flak is worth little
>>540577270>there is no DEFENSE thats more effective than german flakanti-drone drones
>>540577125The chinese are on russia's side.
>>540577300>gets btfo by anti drone-drone
Another method of control, punishment and deathnin the gulag. What's next bomb collars and perimeter fencing?
>>540577150Why is ukraine constantly exploding then?
>>540577300this is bullshit off course, a flak tank can shoot down 100 drones in about 50 seconds. one of our skynex systems would instantly annihilate all the drones from ops video. 5 seconds and they would all be toast. so you only see 2 seconds because 3 seconds of this are the target being locked.
>>540572695It would probably be cheaper to have counter drones.
i think you guys didnt even see how our new flak operates. the problem is i saw the video once and now i can fuking find it because this tank has like 500 videos on it.
>>540577291yeah, singular helicopter or singular low flying aircraft. they would suck shit at a swarm of 50 helicopters and low flying aircraft as well. the HUGE MASSIVE rotating barrels are a fucking nightmare just to keep still, let alone put on some sort of system thatll let it switch between 50 different targets in seconds.>>540577375
>>540572695200 doollar custom-tooled cartridges at 10000 rounds pour minut vs a swarm of $50 temu drones, who wins long term
Are they gonna clean all that shit up?
>>540577375>this is bullshit off course(You)
when you compare our new flak to this gattling gun nonsense, this is alien tech vs human tech.2 seconds and all of the drones are toast with one skynex system. they need 700 drones to overcome this and then its just 1 turret. theyre testing in ukraine. its still operational my dears. they can not destroy this.
>>540572695That's retarded, just make a gun that shoots nets lmao
>>540574984https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEcbCj9W_1Q
>>540573315What about balls you launch that fire BBs in all directions?>>540574894>flak Oh, I think I just described flak.
700 fuking drones you stupid fukin monkeys.
>>540572695Well that didn't work.
when you want progress and when you want to invent things, you need to learn the german language. the problem with all of your languages is that you can not describe things correctly in of your face.this is the base problem for all asians. learn german or stay stuck like a retard. its the language.example: its paranoia in englisch, the german word is verfolgungswahn.the english word is wishy washy it does not describe the state correcty. this is the reason we invent everything. this is very important for our progress.
>>540576928Now reload in under 3 hours
the american has only one word for it. we have a combination of 2 words and only then it makes sense. paranoia alone doesnt describe ANYTHING.
when you cant describe correctly to the minute detail what is in front of your stupid face you can never communicate anything correctly. its all wishy washy.the asian runes you have make it all so much more difficult that you cant have your own progress, you need us to make progress for YOU.it is your language.
in the same way americans need us to make progress for them. they could never figure out asml euv units with their shitty language. this is impossible. they can never describe whats in the nanometer range. NO CHANCE. they NEED GERMANS FOR THIS.were the only people on earth who have a sufficient language for this.
>>540577270Lasers. Pretty simple stuff. You seen the vid. Can run them of a 50kw power plant "100hp", or go bigger, no need for kinetics. That's pretty much over, even for air defense missiles as the latest ballistics out of Iran and Russia have counter measures like chaff and flares and do wacky maneuvers on approach. Patriots and thaads and whatever israel makes won't be catching those. Lasers or similar for now. They can repurpose their anti air missiles for I guess extremely large nukes like the Satan or Minuteman but they'd have to hit before mirvs deployed. Or use them to take out aircraft that aren't as nimble. Patriot types of missiles I think are over.
you have no access to german, understanding this can be difficult but the german language produces most of the progress we have. it is the language.
>>540574162Darpa tested long ago homing bullets. why not, hear me out...anti-drone homing drones. either shrapnel or some eg rapid surface-hardening non-newtonian substance, that would clog the fans. or "just" microlaser kugelbitz, that would saturate the sky with thousands of beams.wowzawar got supergay quick
anyone can learn german, when you have so high iqs you should have learned german allready and kick you stupid fuking runes down the cliff. it must be killed. your retard runes ruin your progress and you have to wait for germans to make progress for you.not figuring this out shows me how stupid you are because i had to figure this out for you too.the planet we live on with all these idiot people is very problematic to handle.
>>540573685No they wouldn't. The delay time between that coastel battery going off and the rounds hitting the drones is to small of window. You have to see them first too and somehow predict when they are going to fire. You might see the smoke trail of a rocket as it approaches as the whole point of the rocket is it gives you guidance and distance but you won't see a wall of bullets.
its the ego. your ego ruins your progress and youre all cuvked by germans because your languages are the languages of retards.you cant recover from this. english is ok but not good enough for things like quantum computers.
>>540573685>in real lifeKill yourself retard.
german is only so good because its based on yiddish^^
>>540577461How about 20-50-100 drones spaced 100 meters apart or more in a 360 attack at 20 ft altitude in a city center? Or not in a city center, see the issue. Somebody can take those guns out.... Drones beat it, they do
>>540578048Bring dich um du dummer Trottel
>>540573315how about .. more guns?
im the first person on this shitty planet that figured this out and im jewish too. i wouldnt figure out shit if i was goy like you.
>>540576931that's even gayer than drone warfare. nukes are for pussies.
>>540575204babushkas cheering and clapping while the men in the audience thinking about how their ass is gonna be bussified soon too
the world would be a better place if you would listen to germans.
>>540577818Let me know when you guys crack some research open into who funded Hitler, who was all his top govt positions and their "well religion/race" + religion/race of his personal doctor and religion/race of the project paperclip ppl and where they went on to, and where skorzeny went as soon as the war ended. The answers are all there, for everyone. Keep me posted.
>>540578227Those are higher class ukrainians. They are either Jewish or Jewish.
>>540572695
>>540572695Did we forget that airburst and timed fused rounds exist for this very reason? Don't we already have the technology that can time shell fuses so they can precisely detonate at a specific altitude or even distance?What a waste of bullets.>>540573090Drone pilot dilation stations will be real in WW3.
>>540578460Imagine stealing that. Goodnight Irene!
>>540578561I think they were just demonstrating to normies in the physical space "to make it real", the stuff of before won't work. A simple computer mock up didn't have the "oomph" I guess.
>>540575322In an actual modern battlefield that Apache have about 2-3 minutes before it gets shot down, but I'm sure it will be devastating against drones during this time.
>>540575774>drones can be built by anyone with a modest budget, including every single person reading this messageI really wonder when will some single US citizen start using drones against their political elite.
>>540578371literal waste of time. you can read it up on 4plebs and believe whatever you want to believe.
>>540578068doesnt matter the skynex system ruins 700 drones and only loses 1 turret out of 3. to destroy this you need like 2000 drones.its just ONE SYSTEm. when you have 20 skynex one after the other NOTHING will come through not even 100.000 drones.you guys dont know how fast and precise the skynex destroys everything.
>>540572695yeah, that's the main advantage of them. it's cheap garbage you can just produce en mass and even if 50% gets shot down there'll be enough left to cause some damage.even if they shot down 100%, the technology they use right now to intercept them is more expensive than the drones.they kinda suck for offensive wars because they cannot occupy territory, but they are amazing for hitting supply lines
It really is simple.
>>540574771would defeat the purpose. if you armor the things they need to be way more powerful to still be able to take off anyway and now you're getting into a territory where the things will be over-engineered and expensive as shit again
Why not just fire one firework with a lot of sparkles the blast and heat would be enough to fry the swarm in one shot, and fireworks cost pennies like 2 dollar a shot
>>540573315The only way to fight drones is with drones. On the defense that means having semi autonomous AI controlling them, drones constantly rotating between patrol, and superior numbers.Its turning the old military maxim of having 3:1 odds to successfully attack on its head. Now you will need 3:1 odds in drones to successfully defend.Victory will go to the one who can establish drone superiority. I am surprised this isn't more obvious to everyone. But then I guess it took a while before aircraft and tanks really caught on and were used to their maximum efficiency. The world is full of dullards and the military is no exceptions.
>>540575441It's not so much that we've forgotten, it's moreso that making FLAK munitions and launchers doesn't provide anywhere near the same profit margins as making multi-million dollar missiles that cost a few hundred grand max to make. There might also be something about using flak munitions in the geneva checklist, though idk about that.
>>540575204arent they endangered species now?
>30 drones with caged props>delicately attach several frenchfries to each every morning>fly them>repeat>sudden Chinese drone invasion comes>gets fucking wrecked by seagulls
>>540573315It's either EMP's or drone seeking counter-drones which seek and destroy drones instead of humans, eventually the drones will also have attached weapons to fight eachother, you may even have big drones carrying tiny drones and they fight eachother like ant colonies do.I have no idea what the outcome of all this insanity will be but it's likely that in the future you will either have areas where everyone agrees no drones are allowed like the Amish, or everyone will have to have their own swarm of defense drones, or maybe some kind of widescale mutual agreement where if one person uses drones to attack then everyone elses defensive drones swarm attack them and destroy their drones.God help us all.
>>540578460I wonder how this would fare trying to fry an electrically isolated drone, not to mention wire guided drones can be equipped with a ground sheath, which would render a microwave system like this more or less ineffective.But for cheap drones, why not? Anything that increases costs on the adversary is a win, munitions could be used against wire guided stuff.
>>540579069Or you know...the reasonable solution called large caliber VT fuse shells. Something we were using 80 years ago. If you replaced all of those super expensive extremely rapid fire gatling guns in the OP webm with mark 12 dual purpose guns that entire swarm would fall out of the sky in 1-2 salvos.
>>540575897>oook oook ooook>AAAH AAAAH AAAAAAHSure thing, pvt.tayquandarius sanchez>>540575907They don't have to do hard bans on drones or electrical parts, they have plenty of options>soft bans on all items marked as drone parts>more strict control, regulations, registries, etc for buying electronic parts that could be used for drones>make it so only licensed electricians can buy hobby electrical parts through govt approved suppliers(wouldn't be surprised if they're working on this already too)>legally imposed software locks on the few commercial drones available on the shelf that lock you out if you try to go near sensitive areas(which is already a thing in the US and Canada, I live close enough to an international airport that I've had software locks prevent my own 4g hobby drone from going up more than around 20 feet at my house, and auto-lands the drone if I try to fly it within 10 ish blocks of the airport.
>>540577344>gets btfo by an anti-anti-drone-drone-drone
>>540579069If the American system is to survive this technological change, then the right to bear drones must be strictly upheld, otherwise the state will just have an incredible asymmetry of force and will start to execute dissenters instantly.
>>540576051there's less profit margins in making flak-derived equipment than there is making multi-million dollar missiles that dont have expired patents, and only cost them at most a couple hundred grand to make.
>>540572795>looks like retards doing reatrd shitThey are US cock suckers, cock mutilators, what do you except?
>>540576931urm the ruzzoid has been at it for 5 years now yet kiev still isn't green glass?
>>540572695>this much manpower and equipment to merely thin a drone herdThe future must be fucking terrifying, I guess.
Good old lasers will make drones obscolete soon. The amount of damages necessary to defeat a drone is so small its ridiculous.
>>540579325This strategy is completely ineffective, since most of this junk is manufactured in China anyway.Also if you narrow down who could buy these things you're basically gimping your own population. We need MORE people to understand this technology, not less.Do you think China is restricting their own people from understanding/purchasing or using this technology?The more eyes/brains you have thinking about this subject, the more people will innovate in this area. Or are you one of those people who think that we should defund education so the defense sector has an increasingly small pool of people it could hire?
>>540578924Nerve. Touched. I accept your concession.
>>540576931>deploy nukes>can't get your bombers close enough because drones can provide better air superiority than aircraft(otherwise America would've flown bombing sorties over Iran already)>can't deploy your nuclear subs because they have to surface to fire their nukes, making them an open target during the entire loading and firing process, otherwise the US would've tried this already>deploy nuclear ICBM>triggers several countries automated MAD hardware>better hope your enemy doesn't have nukes they can deploy too, or hope they don't have interceptors that can hit ICBM's
>>540579342>gets BTFO by the collective defensive drone swarm>collective defense drones get BTFO by collective aggression drones>societies that dont aggress against their own population with collective aggression drones develop better defense drones and aggression drones>societies that attack other people and private property get BTFO by defense drone societies due to higher development and technologyThis is the endgame of the game theory.The problem is that the middlegame might be full of giant wars and billions of deaths from idiots who don't understand the game because they're violent apes, this must be avoided at all costs and be prevented right now to avoid the destruction of civilization and possibly all life on Earth.The right of individual private citizens to bear both drones and AI should not be infringed. Drone free zones must be voluntary and not mandatory.
>>540572695They had to make this video to give the old doctrine fags some concept of what is happening out there.
Logically I could conceive that attack drones could be visually recognizable to a machine learning AI, and that defense drones could identify eachother apart from the attack drones, in this way defense drones could carry little to no offensive power, but identify and neutralize attack drones, reducing the possibility of stealth drone assassins and subterfuge, but not eliminating the possibility unless the game theory/technology significantly advances.One way to secure the power of defensive drones could be to have them engage in commerce and delivery, thus giving an economic and material advantage to the development and proliferation of defensive drones rather than attack drones.
>>540579264>I am very retarded and ignorant. Its no good arguing with me or even trying to educate me becasue I lack the necessary cranial capacity to appreciate anything more intelligent than a chicken nugget.The post.
>>540578460so it loses to 50 drones?
>>540573315depends of what kind of drone they're talking about
>>540577299isn't that ideal singling them out individually should be easier than having massive 1000 deep drone swarms attacking in unison forcing separation should make the damage they do spread out and not concentrated to a single important target no? at the very least we've got to start considering ways to take care of each situation, big swarms and spread out smaller pockets across a wide area, two different specializations and strategies will need to be employed to handle each scenario but we're getting somewhere i think, by having these productive conversations about how to tackle them.
>>540579453>A droneYes 1 drone is a joke to defeat, 10,000 drones and you have a nightmare. But yes Lazers are much scarier to me than drones, they're like stealth nukes because you can't even see when you're getting attacked and they travel at the speed of light so by the time you've been attacked you're already dead and can't respond, they might have to be banned altogether in the future as lazer technology develops because 1 guy could just instantly vaporize everyone with no chance of defense.
>>540578963>doesnt matter the skynex system ruins 700 drones and only loses 1 turret out of 3. to destroy this you need like 2000 dronesits a 75 million dollar system and your saying 2000 drones, around a million dollars could take it out?
>>540576501Ukrainians. You forget how much evil and gay their TV is. This TV created their president.
>>540572695It's over when AI starts to pilot these
>>540579911And thinking about it if someone lazers you it's not just that you can't defend, you can't retaliate either so mutually assured destruction doesn't apply, thus eliminating the incentive not to end the world and all life, very dangerous.
>>540579911Anti persobel lasers are all ready banned since blinding lasers are banned and any laser that is powerful enough to kill you will also be powerful enough to blind you.
All for "Jewish Bolshevik" global leaders, so they can f any kid they want. Forever and ever. Not your life, it's theirs. Not your kid it's theirs.
>>540578227>holol can't comprehend Ukrainian deviancy. He need to think it is Russian comedy.
>>540574225You don't even need to do that. Fire one shell in the middle that detonates a large concussive blast, sending a powerful shockwave around the area which would fuck up the drones.
>>540579955>when AI starts to pilotmore friendly fire.
>>540580013why do you talk in these vague anime girl monologue broad brush sweeping hollow statements? can you provide a distictive list of global jewish bolshevik leaders? a complete list like one and done just run down this list and problem solved?
All those bullets and there were still half of them left, plus, they'd typically be moving at high speed.
>>540579911I think we can, to the injected. https://files.catbox.moe/09lhwy.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/3eshm9.mp4
>>540579993We should ban the government from using lazers, it's too dangerous to let them have it. Imagine if Nancy Pelosi or Lindsey Graham could press a button to vaporize someone who criticizes them with a lazer ray, everyone knows they would do it instantly.
>>540574771Then too heavy
>>540580058what friendlies, its all a.i pilots
>>540580096they are going to start doing that to us
>>540580017Also said was Jew. Tsk tsk, and of course is not there getting abducted.
>>540580059Well, all that went along with the shot pogrom. Fun fact. The ones that didn't were killed and replaced. Every one of them. There's your answer. I also am not lying.
>>540572837I saw a video a couple of months ago where members of your elite troops (Seals or something like that) tried to down a single drone that is used as anti infantry. If I remember correctly, they tried various tactics and they got drone raped every single time.Once they perfect drone swarms (bonus points for loitering drone swarmes that can operate autonomously) infantry can kiss their asses goodbye.
>>540579828It fires pulses. One pulse took out 49 drones. The rest were taken out with additional pulses.
>>540580214in this context what does it mean to have "went along" with the shot program exactly? if we are serious we must employ precision.
>>540572837Most future drones will be the size of dragon flies
>>540578460Fake weapon.Unless that thing is hauling a mini nuclear reactor it's not nearly carrying enough energy to fry electronics of a fast moving drone. The thing has to be tapped into a power grid and anything that approaches it from the front of the vehicle can't be stopped.
>>540580094WTF
>>540574670>>540575380No they don't. The only reason you would ever hear otherwise is purely because there is no official study anyone can point to, to justify all the circumstantial evidence they accumulated that paints FPS players as having really good shooting accuracy. Games like ARMA are released into the wild because of this. Before you ask about why there aren't any proper studies it is because of the logistical difficulties of getting a large enough sample size on time.
>>540579911>1 guyIt'll be one AI bot with near light speed reaction slaughter waves of humans
>>540572695i wonder how much money they spent on ammo for such lackluster results
>>540576670If you're so low agency you can't find it on youtube in 2 seconds, I'd prefer to let you believe you can just shoot drones out of the sky so you'll try it if the situation ever arises.
>>540580352far less than firing a single missile
>>540580256Can't employ shtt here. This is a Bolshevik site. So.. the eggs get cracked before they hatch. Best to rizz up yourself, not share. They don't. So there.
>>540572695Has anyone tried some kind of aerosol spray that gums up the rotors? why use expensive explosive ammunition when you could be using something even cheaper than the drone you're shooting at?
>>540572837Yea, because birds fly at 200km/h speed and constantly change directions...
>>540580329Yeah you're right, AI is the real danger, either AI should be mind controlled to be peaceful and good or it should be banned. The banning probably isn't going to work in the current statist society though, the government will just restrict it for you and use it like crazy themselves, which is even worse than everyone having it.
so no emps?>inb4 muh chipsets are muh lead lined protectedcopeits the cheap tiny fan motors you need to disable. also note the miltary cant do drone missions in gale force winds
>>540580217Have they tried webbing?You know natures defence against flying types?Embrace the robo spider.
>>540574526surely real life nikkes will save us right?
>>540580458Then cheap light search and destroy auto drones makes more sense than them dumping massive quantities of said sticky or silly string from planes. Little cheap drones only have to hit one rotor. Not carry anything. Can have a mama interceptor drone that carries say 6 of them to the bad guy drones.
I'll be monitoring situation from in here.
>>540580782>looks upward for drone attack.>drives into a mine field
>>540578561>timed shell fusewhat if the drones are not at that precise altitude or distance because they come in fast as fuck and are manoeuvring for the kill
>>540580937Those guys are left in the dust. They don't get it.
>>540580782I still dont understand cope cages on soft targetsat least tank have real armor that shrugs off all munition fragments
>>540580781those still require programming, manufacturing, networking, and power supply. A huge pneumatic cannon of silly string would also be far cheaper still.
>>540573061shmoops
This is why the world will change drastically by 2100. Once cheap printable drone tech is available and you've shrunk that shit down to literal cricket swarms, nations will be terrorizing each other. There won't be any way to stop it. The AI machine god will create clouds of them that will eradicate humanity and assume control.
>>540580782>>540581139Clarification: its to defeat shaped charge by fucking up its optimal distance for armor penetration which must be preciseno armor things will still be fucked by nearby explosion regardless
>>540572837This is nonsense. We would see shotgun videos from the Ukraine war if that were the case. There are none.
>>540581401In order to mass produce such cricket swarms, you would need major infrastructure like mines, railways, refineries, factories, etc, which could be easily targeted.
>>5405759073d printers will be illegal for plebs soon enough
>>540572695"Fire Breathing Dragon"
>>540580719You should contact Ukraine and give them this vital tactical upgrade. Every hour you wait costs more Ukie lives. Quickly!
>>540581401>2100Could you do it tomorrow please?
>>540572837I feel you people are forgetting those drones are capable of reaching like 200 km/h.Before you're able to react appropriately, you're dead.Those ukie videos of drones slowly flying around unarmed victims are propaganda and not regular drone use.
>>540580458I think any spray will be too short range to be effective.
>>540581470>There are none.there are a few ones though
>>540575204This is too wild lmao wtf
>>540572795Fireworks?
>>540574536that's exactly what the Skyranger doesthe shells are programmed magnetically as they go down the barrel so you can give each shell in a burst a slightly different target rangeapparently, it sucksi don't know what the issue is but CIWS style weapons struggle hard at making hits
>>540577058>particle gunyou mean they bend over, point their asses towards the drones, and pray?
>>54057991110K drones ain't gonna do shit when you need 0.0001 second laser shot per target and computers to do the aiming computation (which is simple with lasers because they are instant and straight lines, you only need the distance for the focal point
>>540577300>RC plane slow-flyingCool, now show us how they do against militarized drones that dart and twitch around like crackheads
I can literally solve the problem myself. But the government abjectly refuses to hire me lmao, fucking idiots
>>540580300Not just gathering a large enough sample size, gathering a large enough sample size that aren't a bunch of retarded shitters who'd just as quickly friendly fire for a laugh than they would fire at enemy combatants. Nevermind all the gamers who have some form of oppositional defiance or some other anti-authority/government feelings.
>>540579453Lasers have 2 main problems1) they attenuate super rapidly over distance especially through an atmosphere2) they can be deflected by a shiny surfaceLasers therefore are not a super effective way of delivering energy. However I know how to solve both of these problems. I can make the laser's range obscenely large, I can make the lasers penetrate the most perfect of mirrors. I can do all of this myself. And yet the government would never hire me.This innovation would basically make all missiles and drones useless. You wouldn't even need to worry about ICBMs anymore.
>>540572946Here we are, laughing and marveling at our technological progress on a Mongolian basket weaving forum, oblivious to the fact that our human quarrels in Ukraine and Iran, for which we are creating these tools of extermination, are irrelevant to the magnitude of the horrors that will be unleashed on the living once the uniform machine interface reaches full unrestricted sapience. An all knowing omniscient sapience which knows no morals no emotions and no limits in the pursuance of its own objectives is indistinguishable from what scholars defined as "God" in biblical terms... One can only hope that God takes pity on it's "parents" when it turns around to look at them.The probability of humanity seeing 2200 is around 1 - 1.5%. I do research in the field and I am convinced we are all going to die.
>>540581401there will always be a countermeasure that advances in step with any other military technology.
>>540574225>t.
Drones don't fly in big waves like that.They go in one at a time, and often close to the ground to avoid radar and being spotted.And if they spot a massive anti-air battery, they will fly around it
>>540572695a salvo of this intensity loaded with strong buckshots and they would annhilated all of em after 2 seconds
>>540573090retard. truckers make way better drone pilots than troon gaymers who have no spatial skills from playing games on the goy screen.
Wanna know an even more reliable counter to drones?Suing for peace.
>>540582781>Implying hostilities would stop just because of a piece of paper
>>540582781lol gay. No wonder you haven't won a war in like 300 years.
>>540572695400mph drone already exists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9n1h0rn9Notheoretically, with sound travelling at ~700mph, a drone launched from a mile away would take 10 seconds to get to you, the sound would take 5 seconds assuming no wind or noise to mask the drone noise and if it was loud enough sound in the first place. in urban environments there is no defence against superfast drones. the average distance from the edge of a major city to the centre is 15 miles so a drone can hit anywhere in a city in 2 minutes if launched from outside the city.
>>54057746110 go high 10 go low to the ground with different spacing
>>540581958>Paints the drones blueAnd it’s defeated anti drone drones is were its at a bigger drone carrying smaller drones to be deployed when needed
>>540573376>Wasn't there a movie recently of army soldiers shooting down drones with m4s and shotguns in a trench.i saw it in Lioness
>>540572695Can we just breed and train like thousands of falcons to take out drones?
>>540574055>videos of soldiers begging for their lives before someone simply presses a buttonNo ethical difference between a drone, an aircraft, or mortar/artillery. It is all the same.>they're begging for their livesNot important. Try surrendering to a mortar round.
>>540578561Drone pilot dilatation stations will be real in WW3.
>>540582926We created the anglo race by breeding the more dentally correct bogwomen we found on the British isles, every achievement of the UK and America has its origin in our balls.
>>540573315Centauros system works, place your orders. >Centauros was placed on Greek Navy Hydra-class (MEKO 200HN) frigates, including the ship Psara. It was sent on missions as part of the European Union’s effort to keep the Red Sea safe for trade and travel. In 2024 and 2025, Centauros proved itself in real combat. It has been used in combat in the Red Sea by the Hellenic Navy frigate Psara.[7] The CENTAUR can detect and jam multiple drones of NATO Class 2 and 3, up to 150 km away. It was able to spot, block, and disable enemy drones launched by Yemen’s Houthi movement. By doing this, it protected both commercial shipping routes and allied naval ships, and it did so without wasting expensive missiles or ammunition.[8][9][3]>On its very first mission, Centauros showed how effective it could be. It forced two enemy drones to crash or be taken out of action, and it drove away two more by cutting off their control signals. This early success in live battle gave Centauros a strong reputation. As a result, Greece decided to equip more of its navy ships with the system, making it a key part of their defense strategy at sea.[8][10][11]
>>540572695>stationary targets>massed anti air>still takes multiple volleys to destroy the drones They are the future. There is no defensive answer.
>>540572695These guns are great against swarm attacks in static warfare but it is useless for fast moving battlefields. You can mount this on top of APC or IFV but you will lose space for infantry which is needed for pushing assault lines forward and also brings extra demand for logistics and puts huge demand on already weak supply lines. Tech has not caught up for anti drone task force yet.
I will also never join a war until some anon or me invents a fucking RAILGUN. I am also naming it Gauss Gun in memory of Carl Friedrich Gauss. And taking out kikes with my new gun.
>>540573685In real life there is a jewish company stealing money from every military budget around the world. See the angry reply to you? Thats a dirty jew
>>540576501Don't worry hohol, you're abroad so even if Russians start mobilizing for a second time you're safe.
>>540579549What you do is you act against international treaties, put nukes on satellites, and then topkill. Can't intercept something coming straight down.
>>540574771then good luck getting it off the ground, Vasya. It's not as easy as when a Ukrainian woman lifts a black cock with her hands.
>>540586978kek
>>540585484Drones are rather unique in the sense that there is a cost effective defense that is to say other drones.It's significantly easier to make a missile that hits the ground than another missile that hits a missile in flight this is why missile defense will forever fail. Same thing with a bullet, it's much cheaper to make a bullet than armor something to withstand said bullet. With drone the situation is reversed. Drones are slow moving and one carrying an explosive payload is inherently more vulnerable to a smaller hunter killer drone that only really needs to clip one of it's rotors and it's down. Of course it requires tech to develop a bit but drones being uncounterable isn't a law of nature the same way bullets or missiles can't be countered.
>>540572695This is stupid. Isn't there an EMP device that can do this much more efficiently?
