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Is 20 years without the chance of parole an appropriate sentence for looking at a picture?
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>>540577583
Depends if he downloaded it, made it,ade it for distribution or he used AI
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>>540577583
if it's AI i don't give a shit
if he just downloaded it that's fucked up but not 20 years fucked up
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>>540577583
Per aussie law 4chan hosts a ton of CSAM. You probably have some.
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>>540577583
People don’t like it, but my position on the issue has changed dramatically. I consider this a first amendment issue.

I can’t find any good reason to throw people in jail for watching sexualized, drawn or generated illustrations. It’s simply impossible to argue for harm because of this. The same is true for using pocket pussies that resemble minors or something.

Victimless offenses should never be punished at all. I don’t care how degenerate they are. It’s your body, put in it whatever you want, consume any content, whatever. I find you disgusting, I don’t want to have you near me, you should be socially shunned and shamed.

But why would I bring the government in to punish you?
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Not enough details here for me to have an opinion on it.
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>>540577583
he needs to learn to eat grilled cheesee of the radiator
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>>540577583
If it's AI or loli (zero victims), then it's stupid. If he's just viewing or downloading, it's excessive. If he's distributing, then he needs to be executed. That simple.
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>>540577583
Saying the pedo won’t be able to see kids multiple times in that short post probably isn’t the best thing to say for someone just convicted of being a pedophile
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>>540577583
>CSAM

Why can't they just say child porn?
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>>540577931
We have seemingly zero info on if it was real cp or not. I do think the fact that multiple people itt are assuming its not real however goes go show the low level of trust people have in law enforcement.
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>>540577951
It's more broad, if they normalize it they can arrest and convict even more people.
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>>540578029
>It's more broad
How so? Does it count drawings of fictional characters or something?
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Looking at CSAM is a worse crime than genocide.
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>>540578108
If you can come up with a roundabout argument as to how it's abusive then sure. You'd better believe lawyers can and will. They don't even have to be right, just convincing.
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>>540577873
It's a reddit screencap thread. OP should serve 20 years in a third world prison and the chomo should be put to death.
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>>540578154
>>540577832
Cunny devalues roastie pussy and you live in a gynocracy, therefore it’s the worst crime imaginable.
Meanwhile, all 13-15 year old girls are fucking guys in college and Epstein is raping pre-teens and eating them on and island with all your politicians.
>Does this demoralize you?
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>>540577951
Self censorship brought about by years of indoctrination by monetization algorithms. Same reason you'll see normgroids call someone a "pdf file" when they can just say pedophile.
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>>540578217
>chomo
If looking at cp makes you a child molester, does watching a video of someone being murdered make you a murderer?
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>>540577583
In Russia, simple possession is legal. Only illegal if you produce or distribute. That’s how it should be.
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>>540577816
Not nearly as much as Xwitter or Faceberg.
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>>540577951
Because child porn is specific and includes actual minors. This stuff is abhorrent, this should be punished.

CSAM covers drawn pictures, AI generated content, 3D printed shapes etc. which is why I assume this is bout something not actual child porn.
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>>540577832
because it results in a perverted culture, g*rman. You should know this better than anyone.
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>>540578265
>Cunny devalues roastie pussy and you live in a gynocracy, therefore it’s the worst crime imaginable.
this choujin gets it
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>>540578464
>because it results in a perverted culture
unlike onlyfans, porn sites and dating apps, which all result in high civilization
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>>540577583
Hang yourself reddit filth
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>>540577951
because it was anime girls probably lol
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>>540578464
No, it’s because it gives women and their simps the ick. Look at the UK, they banned everything and treat the cartoons on the same level as the real thing. Has their society improved? Their sexual abuse stats just keep going up.
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>>540578499
I think those should be illegal too, and the owners imprisoned or deported.
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>>540577951
99% of cp is self made because every kid has internet and phone access now so we have to make sure everyone knows the kids are super duper being abused by themselves or some shit like that
genuinely the reason for the terminology change btw lol
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>>540578468
Best start to a manifesto since "The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race"
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>>540578400
Yeah, I've seen it once here and reported it. But I don't go to /b/ or /gif/ I imagine the rate is higher there and some other boards.
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>>540577583
>sexoffendersupport
Whaaaaaaat?
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>>540577583
>I have no words
Why do they write like this? What is this meant to actually convey? I understand being despondent, if this is even a true story, but all of them include this useless filler nonsense. It devalues their ability to communicate effectively and I've always wondered why they do it
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>>540578680
X had tons of it being posted. I’m not even talking pictures, I mean entire videos of toddlers being raped that would pop into your video feed. They recently took down one of the hashtags they were using after I reported it here KEK
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>>540577951
They don’t intend to arrest real pedophiles as seen with the Epstein Files.
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>>540578879
"I have no words" is:
"I am waiting for additional information regarding my situation and the consensus update regarding [THING] before speaking"
very woman-coded this time
if a man says it, it sometimes means "I don't care but I will pretend to be speechless like the women"
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>>540577951
>Why can't they just say child porn?
Because cartoons.

The same British government information operation that shilled the Ukraine war has been pushing "CSAM" control for a few years.
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>>540577951
whenever they say CSAM instead of child porn, it's because it wasn't child porn.
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>>540578902
>X has toddler rape videos
Maybe government actors are flooding the zone with it to prove there is a problem.
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>>540579108
It’s some kind of bot network doing it. My guess was it was some country trying to demoralize or psyop the west.
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>>540579160
Imagine you operate any kind of internet service and they flood your network with this shit then the DOJ contacts you. Now you on the hook for legal fees and doing whatever they say.
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>>540579211
It’s worse because they pick and choose. Facebook reports the most cases of CP on their platform every year but they don’t get fined or blacklisted. Infinitychan had a few people who would post it and report it before mods got to it so that cloudflare and Google kicked them off while the DOJ labeled them a CP site. Wikipedia still labels it a CP site because of this.
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>>540579101
That's not true. All so-called child porn is CSAM.
https://legalclarity.org/csam-meaning-what-is-child-sexual-abuse-material/
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>>540577583
Not enough info
If it was real material it must've been some extra depraved shit for a sentence that could almost legally drink in the states.
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>>540577583
no. America is genuinely insane.
Our president probably had sex with a minor, Epstein was covered up, the most powerful people who run this country probably had sex with minors on Epstein island, it's OK for 50 yo billionaires to date 18 yos, it's OK for an 18 yo girl to do nigger porn on her birthday, but if you young man dare for a second talk inappropriately or want to date or exchange nudes with this slightly younger post-pubescent woman, you now are an evil pedophile and need to do 20 years to life in prison!
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>>540579809
So you want to lock up the powerful and put mental patients like that guy's brother in the White House instead?
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>>540579874
are you mentally disabled?
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>>540579526
He's probably in the pics committing the act but they didn't have enough evidence to prove it's him like a witness didn't want to testify which happens all the time.

So they charged him with 1 count each for every sick shit they found until he got sentencing enhancements to be in jail a long time which is where he belongs.

Mob bosses get large sentences for tax evasion too because they can't get them on everything else they know they did
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>>540577816
>4chan hosts a ton of CSAM. You probably have some.
anyone with any moderately large collection of internet images, porn or not, has a 99% probability of possessing CSAM, we are all de facto criminals,
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>>540577583
>an appropriate sentence for looking at a picture?
it's owning the picture, be honest, not looking. the guy saved it and kept it. let this be a lesson to new anons, if you save images you find online you will rot in jail.
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>>540577583
they will literally slip in CP while you are looking at porn. You can't evne avoid it. They will fill your entire feed with it on reddit. Then ask you with a straight face how you stumbled across it. im not joking. these people are fucking niggers.
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>>540578330
i started murdering people because of goru
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>>540577832
About 20 years ago a comedian, "Doug Stanhope" said something that has basically been my stance on this ever since I first heard it
>Why is it the ONLY crime that is illegal to be seen caught on tape

I've never heard anyone even try to argue against that. It's a crime that has already happened, that's been caught on tape. Just like cartel beheadings, shootings, car chases, ISIS executions, even rape and snuff. All crimes (caught on tape) none of them are illegal to see caught on tape.
THIS crime however..

I'd love to have someone try to make an argument for this because in 20 years I have not been able to think of one, and I've never heard one.
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>>540578416
>watch any early 2000s slice of life anime and go to prison because of the beach party episode
>mfw
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>>540580305
it says a lot about canada that it is not a crime to watch snuff and rape and mass shooting videos. the argument for most countries is that they are so offensive to society they should not be tolerated. libertarians are total cancer on things like this. imagine fighting for the right to watch people being murdered or children raped because 'it's already happened' what the actual fuck
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>>540580596
>imagine fighting for the right to watch people being murdered
so your position is that owning videos of, say, the 9/11 attacks, or war documentaries, should be punished?
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>>540577832
Because you are trying to think about it logically and rationally, from a philosophical point of view, with intelligence and balance.

PARENTS are not like that, they are irrational and when they think something is a threat to their precious babies, they will not even entertain a rational discussion, they will fight with NOTHING held back.

You hear women especially but sometimes "girldads" will say some shit like this too, about being a "momma bear protecting her young."

They're putting a cute face on it but they're tacitly admitting to entering a CRAZED STATE that is beyond all reason where their kids' PERCEIVED safety is concerned.

There are so many cases out there of a bunch of concerned parents literally beating or even murdering somebody they THOUGHT was a pedo when it was a simple case of mistaken identity or some other misunderstanding. Recently there was some autistic teen recording his own workout routine in public park who was nearly attacked by a mob of angry parents who thought his dark clothes and workout gloves made him look threatening, and they assumed the only reason he was recording himself was to capture footage of kids playing in the background.

That's how parents are, they leap to conclusions and are willing to kill or be killed over them because once that primal fear washes over them, they literally become unhinged.

That's why the law is weaponized against people who's only crime is jerking off quietly by themselves while looking at drawings of kids.

People who think they are "just being a momma bear" or a "daddy bear" or whatever the fuck are not WILLING to see reason or look at things rationally.
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>>540577816
Lucky for everyone the url doesn't read 4chan.co.au
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>>540578743
This should be the first and only response if actually human
I'm going to assume everyone else itt is a subhuman pedo, anime or otherwise
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>>540580649
so you think people should just watch videos of kids being raped and you want to try to use some other excuses huh

nice one england
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>>540580683
well I'm asking you, you said you think wanting to see people being murdered is abhorrent, so should having a video of the 9/11 attacks be prosecuted?

if not, what's the difference between that and a video of someone being raped? why would it make a difference if they were a minor?
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>>540580713
trying to conflate a video of a murder with a massive public act of terror is an weak argument. you know that. why are you being so disingenuous on this issue? a video of a rape as everyone in this thead knows is fapping gold to sick fucks. it's offensive to society and kids being raped should offend you too. running defence for the right to own or watch this shit is awful of you and maybe you've been ruined by this place

never go full epstein anons
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If I ever find myself starting to think "hey maybe normies arent so bad", I quickly remind myself that they think people should be sent to jail and the key thrown away for the despicable crime of looking at drawings.
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>>540580841
But that's not the point. The point is that you're arguing that seeing people die/be murdered/etc should be illegal. So should possessing the Saddam Hussein execution video be prosecuted?
If you have seen a video of a drunk girl having sex, according to modern "consent" laws, should this be considered rape and prosecuted?

I'm not saying anyone should want to watch these things. I'm not saying they're good things. But no one is in prison for watching the Christchurch shooting video, and no one on the news was prosecuted for playing footage of the columbine shooting.
Again. I'm not necessarily suggesting anyone should want to watch people die/get murdered/get raped/etc
I'm asking why this ONE crime should be treated as uniquely evil that even viewing this crime gets you 20 years in prison when... and I looked this up..
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6041599/canberra-man-had-sex-with-underage-girl-he-met-on-facebook/

Some shitskin in your country fucked a 15 year old girl and got a 13 month suspended sentence.
Seems like fucking a 15 year old girl should carry the 20 year sentence, and seeing a picture of it after the fact should carry a 13 month suspended sentence.

Explain.
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>>540577816
>Per aussie law 4chan hosts a ton of CSAM
Why the fuck did Australia pass a law to store csam on 4chan???
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>>540579974
the reason cp is highly illegal is so they can plant it on people they don't like.



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