Why did literally everyone forget that raising children is one of the major goals of life? Normalfags just want to marry to just have 2 people together, I can't grasp it at all! And some other people are nowadays even being hostile to the very idea of having kids around in public, as if they were dogs and not young members of society. Has the world gone insane??
>>540580958kids and marriage is a miserable existence
>>540580958Dude I am in my 30s, in my opinion people should marry in their 20s. After that it is a humiliating ritual. Instead of settling for a busted hag I rather stay single, it is a cope I can live with much better. Did I initially want children? Yes. Do I want them anymore? No.
>>540581115that's a you problem. it's one of the best and most fulfiling experiences in life
>>540580958People who's parents always treated them like a disappointment are not looking to become the disappointed party. Literally almost 90% of Gen X and Millennials are victims of narcissistic abuse by their parents or grandparents.This is what happens very naturally when an entire generation of people suffer from chronic, low-level lead exposure for their entire lives. Only when you study the effects of CHRONIC, LOW-LEVEL LEAD EXPOSURE will the behavior and attitudes of boomers suddenly become crystal clear to you. It's so easy to hate them and think "oh, they're just all stupid and belligerent because they all have the same character flaw." The truth is that even the best of them have been poisoned their entire lives and the poison is what made them all demented, whether they have character flaws or not.
>>540581183ideally yes but the age window matters much more for women than for men
If the only thing your country is capable of producing is broken children, then your country should just shrivel up and die.If you really want to get into it, I would argue that God Himself would become Evil if He failed to hold America and the West to account for aborting millions of perfectly healthy babies, sacrificing them on the altar for nothing else but the promise of convenience. We informed God that we prefer death to life, so in His infinite wisdom and mercy, He is giving us what we prefer and what we deserve.If America is not completely destroyed in just one or two more generations, God would be nothing but a Demon King, more evil than Satan could ever be.
>>540580958to form a clan, when states will be ruined die to cheap ai and drones only blood ties would matter
>>540581189no
>>540581236Yeah well, women nowadays only want to settle down by the time they have nothing to offer anymore. I am not falling for it, social shame doesnt work on me. I have a small business as an electrician with a few employees and hate boomers asking me if I am married. They are too old to understand how the world works nowadays and lets be real they really arent there to have a conversation anyway, its a shaming attempt for being unwilling to settle with whatever garbage they produced> ok the offer isnt ideal, just do it anywayNo
>>540580958It also demands a lot of time, effort and money. And nowadays you are forced to settle for a sloot to do it. I'd rather just take it easy.
>>540581670don't you want to enjoy adorable clones of yourself & your beloved woman
>>540581759Could be fun, but I can also see it bringing a lot of headaches.And women nowadays are all whores and I can't imagine myself making a good marriage.
>>540581759Modern women arent beloved anymore, they suck. Even their own children hate them. The other day I worked in one of these houses with many units and the kid yelled how much it hates his mother for not being able to see his dad. The mother was very ashamed running after him, my line of thinking was imagine you would have been this selective when picking your childs dad. They were Whites before anyone starts to cuckpost though. Either way I was so damn happy getting away from them after finishing my work.
>>540580958>Has the world gone insane??
>>540581887>And women nowadays are all whores and I can't imagine myself making a good marriage.if you have no woman in the first place it's understandable, you don't even meet the prerequisitesbut why do socially successful people in long-term relationships avoid having children so much? That's what really boggles the noggin
>>540581953Many just can't. Infertility problem is a real issue. I had it (though I was cured and have 2 kids), 5 pairs of my friends have had it, one ended up with in vitro, two were cured with drugs and one cannot have their own kids ever in their relationship.
>>540581953They are on the lookout I suppose.
>>540580958how many children do you have and how have you been married?
>>540581953>you don't even meet the prerequisitesThis is cope. Here is the reality I live in:> women indoctrinated to never settle down, only begin looking for a man actively once they hit a wall or are single mother> get into university with meme degree, think they are better than people who havent gone to university now> be me have an own company, employees even, still seen as low status because of blue collar> dont want to settle for busted women> simply stay single as it requires less coping, it is easier
>>540580958I have been in multiple relationships and none of my exes wanted kids. Not like I didn't bust nuts inside enough vaginas, so I did my part of the bargain. They all had those IUDs which is man made horrors beyond imagination IMO. So I've given up
>>540582103That too, this Molyneux faggot tries to give other men a bad conscience for "failing to raise familes" too. Like nigger you have a show listened to by millions and the best you could do is a busted hag to have 1 child with and you wonder why I dont want to? Get real, lmfao. I am donating 1 cent
>>540581189nope, I'm not interested in more shit to do and more taxes
>>540580958We've developed ways to be happy without kids, so now from a cost-benefit analysis, having kids just seems silly.
It’s about the lack of money. Neither my wife’s family or my own mentioned us wanting to have children. Neither of them offered a single ounce of support, so we didn’t have them. Even in our 40’s being debt free we aren’t financially independent or have enough wealth to support ourselves let alone multiple children. Society from the top down is clearly disenfranchising the nuclear family. TPTB don’t want people having children, or else they wouldn’t penalize those that do. I can’t imagine working until I’m dead so I can afford to never enjoy my family, what’s the point? There’s no special magic mutation any one person has. Everything you’ve got is contained in the human genome already.
>>540580958Is that why there are so many fucking single mums?
>>540580958Everyone forgot it because there's no real insentive in making kids anymore. Western birth rates have been hard dropping since 60's and if we count out the boomer generation and some other spikes, since 19th century. Having kids doesn't mean workforce or safe retirement anymore. It's a chore and a liability. Try having having a bad night's sleep, then going to work, and after getting home having even more work with work partners of literally 60IQ. Your work days are 13-14h long with little to no vacations. No weekends, you work with your 60IQ partners then too. Now try this for at least 5 years, closer to 10 if you get more than 1 kid, which btw is super easy mode compared to any other number.And the worst part is, there's no tangible prize to get from it. Yes yes you get love and you can be proud of your kids and what not, but the MASSES of people won't go for that, they need something REAL. The world hasn't gone insane. The world works on cause and effect.t. biological father of 2, in a loving marriage with their mother
>>540581189I have never once in my life known a marriage where both retards were happy.
>>540581953>but why do socially successful people in long-term relationships avoid having children so much?Because they are getting smarter.Only fools would get married nowadays.
>>540582546There have to be some incentives that'd concinve people or else the society will be soon composed of more pensioneers than working age people
>>540583599That’s the point. The infinite growth system kills the incentive to have children because it’s not working correctly to take care of citizens because that’s not how it was intended to work.
>>540581759>beloved womanlol lmao even
>>540583599As t some point, the old people will just have to accept starvation. Nothing more we can do without them dragging us down with them
>>540580958>raising children is one of the major goals of lifesays who? JESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUSJESUS?
>>540580958>forgetMen didn't forget, but men are also pragmatic and perform cost-benefit analysis intuitively.
>>540581189are you a Boomer?
>>540581224lead doesn't explain it. it's social contagion.
>>540581183this>>540581541BASEDfuck cunts
>>540580958Women have been sold the Metropolitan city lifestyle of Sex and the City and the travel lifestyle of Eat, Pray, Love. Men are sold video games and e-thots. Western culture has degenerated in spending their disposable income instead of creating the next generation. If you can't find joy in raising children, I'm sorrt but you will be replaced. Eventually you'll go the way of the boomer in the day of the pillow
>>540580958In order to have children you need to have sex, and since that is no longer possible for ~40% of men, births have collapsed.
>>540582373I would never spend my whole life cohabitating with a women if we don't have children. Women are boring and stupid . It would be a horrible life to live in my opinion.
>>540580958Economics, species thrive when resources are plentiful, boomers reproduced because they got more resources than the next generations.Now it's an age of scarcity, due to scarcity people don't reproduce.Also scarcity make people antisocial, low trust makes social circles shrink.
>>540580958if kids are so profitable for society, then why doesnt the government help people get there?
>>540580958>Why did literally everyone forget that raising children is one of the major goals of life?Are you a boomer or something ? I don t have time for that crap, I m dying, I m already half way through life and half that was struggling being a kid and then having no money to do anything. Now that I m wealthy enough to have some freedom you want me to fuck my life with kids ? I m too old now to be a father, I will yolo-ing and carpe diem-ing for the rest of my life, nigger.
>>540580958>raising children is one of the major goals of lifeThe problem started when you gave special benefits and tax breaks to parents, paid for by the childless (future parents), which means they could only afford to have fewer children, thanks to current parents leeching off them. See this anon's picrel for more >>54058237350 and childless, but I pay a shitload of taxes for nigger babies
>>540590738>50 and childless, but I pay a shitload of taxes for nigger babiesAnd you mutts WON'T DO SHIT about it anyway even with muh guns.