Isn’t this cunt a Trillionaire. How is he so retarded
>>540589949was a paper one for a few days
Elon means Oak
>>540589949ask this retard why his son troones out and watch him shiver. we all know how these people come to existance
>>540589949Socialists are even literally Hitler!
>>540589949
>>540589949you're not a trillionaire because yore a're retardedMusk is a trillionaire because he's not
>>540589949They think it's some sort of huge revelation to say that Hitler was a Socialist. His movement was literally called National Socialism it's hardly a fucking secret. All they are doing is pointing out that Capitalism is anti White and Socialism is better. Retards.
So let's clarify.At that time, Germany was about to fall to communism. All of Eastern Europe just fell to communism, and Germany was next. They were rapidly rising in the elections, they were sweeping the country. The nazi strategy was to switch those communists over to be nationalists, so they adopted a lot of socialist branding. This was simply their election strategy. To them, socialism wasn't some government-run economic system. It was more like "community spirit". Everyone, rich and poor, all puts their shoulder to the wheel for the community. The goal being a united germany. It was a lot more communitarian, and it wasn't about punishing the rich but about doing what's best for the nation. Now typically jews will dominate finance, media, and much of academia....etc. But whites will dominate industry and manufacturing. Hence the commies usually employed a conspiracy of media and financial influences, while the nazis were partnering up with big industry. Their partnership with industry may have been less about ideological capitalism, and more about a simple strategy to gain a coalition to win. That said, they were indeed pro business guys. The primary lens they looked at business was "does this benefit the german people" not "how can we punish those rich people I hate them reee"
>>540590546Truman spent the last days of the war trying to rewrite history to pretend Nazis were a magical new branch of the right wing called "reactionaries," to hide the fact the Democrats called Hitler an 'economic miracle worker" who saved Weimar from the Great Depression up until 1938 when everyone realized where the Nazi gold was really coming fromhid it even more thoroughly than FDR's wheelchair, too bad for them rewriting history doesn't change the past
>>540590792your timeline is backwardsall continental Europe was taken over by Nazis until after the invasion of NormandyStalin didn't enter Eastern Europe until weeks later, only after the beachhead was established, because he was no dumbass willing to commit his last reserves to a hammer and anvil strategy until he was sure there would be an anvil to hammereven the Eastern European takeover wasn't formalized until PM Winston Churchill was removed from office for earning about the Iron Curtain about to descend
>>540590351NOOOOO B-BUT HES LITERALLY HITLERHE CANT BE A LEFTOID NOOOOOOO
>>540589949you voted for it
>>540591342sad but true
>>540589949You can't have affordable healthcare or you'd be Hitler. Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember when public schools provided apples and milk free to primary students. I think it was Malcom Fraser that put an end to that (1975 in Australia). Of course Elon thinks that, Capitalism is what made him rich.
>>540591855>You can't have affordable healthcare or you'd be Hitlersomehow it's always the people with affordable health care that get holocausted for their organs
Elon Musk is just the face. He's objectively an idiot who shills sci-fi to appear smart, but delivers garbage (or nothing). Whenever he's allowed to have his own opinion, he reveals how stupid he really isElon Musk shills can fuck off. I never liked Elon, even when he was being shilled as the real life Iron Man
>>540589949How is he wrong?
He’s just an mkultra victim, and DARPA puppet.
Whats wrong giving free health care to your own people?
>>540589949Hitler, while using worker rights talking point to earn votes, did almost the opposite when the nazi party went into power. They reinforced the rights for corporations and even had a really close collaboration with them. But people call Sweden a socialist country, so no wonder they believe Hitler was easily a socialist.
>>540589949Do you believe that wealth = intelligence and education? Because if that's the case, you're as big of a retard as he is.
>>540589949americans keep doing some weird pilpul claiming that hitler was a leftist actuallyits all very jewish behaviour
>>540592809He is an actor and also jewish
>>540592809have you ever talked to a rich fag?they are surprisingly retarded
>>540589949Hitler confiscated the wealth of the Jews to pay Germany's debts, which is their greatest fear.
>>540589949I like how they think calling us Hitler is going to shame us in some way. Our secret power is we don't give a shit about what boomers think.
>>540593813oh god that would be so fucking based lets do it now.
>>540592939>what's wrong with giving your government extreme finincial incentive to kill you
>>540593074That's not an entirely accurate portrayal of the situation. The strength through joy program was a massive undertaking where the government provided massive subsidies for worker vacations, cruises, concerts, theater and sporting event tickets, outdoor excursions, worker education programs, and invested massively in recreation areas to support that. The program had one in six Germans participating by 1938. Then there was the beauty of labor program which pressured those factories and businesses to massively improve worker conditions around things like safety, bathrooms, cafeterias, even workplace rest/recreation areas which could be used while on breaks. The huge public works projects they undertook and the major reform of the currency system (attaching currency to German labor hours and funneling workers into the most beneficial sectors of the economy via better pay) took unemployment from 30% to essentially 0%. You could argue that's a giant boon for the corporations, but from 1933 to 1939, real (adjusted with inflation) household earnings rose over 20%!Unionization was replaced with the German Labor Front, and collective bargaining took place between the government and companies directly via labor trustees that represented the interests of the German worker. Through this, the government imposed profit sharing rules on almost every major company, expanded a large pensioner/welfare program, took over several businesses directly (even in the pre-war era), etc. The difference is that since they weren't a Marxist driven socialist nation bent on punishing capitalism but rather a 3rd position stance, they didn't take steps towards nationalizing every industry or abolishing private ownership/property. It was a brand of socialism which was actually successful because it wasn't crushing labor in favor of corporations and wasn't punishing corporations or successful people at the expense of labor.
>>540594099They might not have been capitalist in a more traditional sense, but they did sell of public companies to become private entities. But at the same time, companies had to follow what the government told them in terms of production and such. But they weren't exactly socialists but they also didn't have a free market like we have today.
>>540592732Yes, Elon musk is a CIA cutout. he was tapped while at Stanford, and then dropped out to go get acting coaching in Hollyjew. They were hoping to prop him up as an ideologue to recruit Spaceforce personnel, but they botched that with too many spacefluencers and cringe "you're not white if you don't love space elevators" threads.Instead, they used him to launder money into the twitter white elephant while scraping it's user data for dissident network connections (you all ran and signed up, completely falling for this btw) and next they will turn X into the equivalent of WeChat (which is the absolute crux of chinas social credit system), with banking (and debanking), positioning it to be a requirement for every societal function including schooling and employment.Meanwhile the NSA has sidechannels on the entire Starlink network so they can use it as a listening system worldwide, and the REAL purpose of SpaceX has absolutely nothing to do with going to Mars or the Moon. SpaceX re-entry vehicles are for fast global troop and weapon deployments.And lastly, Tesla was about tracking and eventually restricting all vehicular travel via Freedom Cities. The Jews controlled Musk by promising him the world, and witches like grimes had him hypnotized and high off all their promises. at this point, Musk might as well be a Beta Sex Kitten for STEM autists and H1Bindians.
>>540593996What a huge leap of logic.
>>540594448Right, it's really not like anything that was instituted in a major industrialized nation before or since. I'd say it leaned heavily towards socialism in it's policies towards workers. Their government cared quite a bit about their health, wages, working conditions, pensions and access to recreation time. They also valued innovation and flexibility offered by private ownership of corporations and developed this sort of top down system where both labor and ownership were directed by the state.Ironically, I think it's actually the only form of quasi-socialism that actually works, but you need the foundational philosophies guiding the government to be nationalist, traditionalist, right wing, whatever because without that you allow the instrument directing both labor and business ownership to fall into the hands of multi-culturalist degenerates who don't care for their own people, or profiteering jew-types who will exploit anyone and anything to make money.
>>540589949>Isn’t this cunt a Trillionaire. How is he so retardedHe's a political entrepreneur, not a market entrepreneur. He didn't get rich by serving the market better than his competitors, he did it by getting the government to favor his businesses at the expense of the entire rest of the economy. He's not a capitalist, he's just the biggest welfare queen on the planet.
>>540594748Arguably in terms of states I think us in the nordic countries, despite the retarded migration that hasn't led anywhere in terms of giving us a bigger work force in the past 20 years, have it pretty good. Both social welfare and free market.
>>540589949It turns out that you are fucking stupid.
>>540589949National SOCIALIST buddysays so right on the can
>>540589949Hitler was not a socialist. The nazis rejected the entire concept of class struggle, which is the core idea of socialism. a sea horse is not a horsea starfish is not a fisha king cobra is not a kingnational socialism is not socialism
>>540593074The national socialists were socialists, just a different flavor of it than the Marxist brand. Socialism is distinct from capitalism in that it involves the systematic violation of private property rights by the state. So while the national socialists did allow ostensibly private ownership of the means of production, they were quite strict about enforcing the government's will on those supposed owners. It was the same program but pursued by different means.
>>540589949He's a non-Christian. Non-Christians are inherently irrational people and not to be taken seriously.
>>540590546>leftists act retarded and make it impossible to discuss anythingTypical
>>540589949even his own ai is saying he is wrong lol
>>540589949National Socialism is better than whatever UBI zio trash he is peddling
>>540594899You do know that Nordic countries standards of living were rising faster for all classes prior to the implementation of the welfare system than after it right? The difference is actually more pronounced for the lower classes than the upper classes. The Nordic countries adherence to free market economics were also why they weathered the Great Depression better than most other countries, which pursued much more strongly interventionist policies to try to fix it.
>>540595461>You do know that Nordic countries standards of living were rising faster for all classes prior to the implementation of the welfare system than after it right?I mean, yeah? But that doesn't really mean much if it's about going from having extremely poor living standards to have decent.
>>540595461correlation vs causationThere was also technological and industrial advancements at the time. It's not like free healthcare put an end to it.
>>540594899Yes, but you're obviously aware of the Achilles heel of such a system. Having a large socialist system depends heavily on having a homogenous population who all agree on what the system is for and how it should be used. If you don't breed enough of your own people or allow retarded social concepts from the left to seep into your public consciousness and people start saying we should import people who are not at all congruent with our society, you'll wind up with what you have, a growing subset of your population who are retarded low IQ nigger-apes from Africa that don't responsibly participate in the Swedish socialist system but instead are there merely to pilfer it.In the United States for example, I've heard my whole life the left/socialists point to the Scandinavian countries as an example of socialism working, as an argument to implement the same systems here. In this hellscape of disjointed cultural beliefs/practices where from 1964 onward we've imported more and more of the 3rd world, such government programs are destined to be gigantic money wasting failures. The reason the NSDAP systems worked is because it was one united people group ethnically culturally, and I think you'll find that as Sweden gets less Swedish, the programs that you have come to admire and believe are correct will falter tremendously under the strain of retarded outsiders who ruin everything.
>>540592732The only thing Muskmelon is good at is bullshitting investors.
>>540591855So have you found a doctor yet or still on the waiting list?
>>540589949>2 hours>1 post (the thread)Let me guess, you're jewish?
>>540589949>Isn’t this cunt a Trillionaire. How is he so retardedhes not retarded, but he knows all right wingers are.
>>540589949Public figures say retarded things that appeal to retarded people because that's more effective than providing insight or nuance to a potentially hostile audience that might misrepresent your point.When he makes a post like this, nobody questions what side he's on. Nobody's gonna misrepresent what message he's trying to get across. What team he's coming to batt for is not in question.It might make him sound stupid, but he's not interested in convincing you he's smart. It would be retarded for him to try.Had he provided a more "intelligent" take about how Hitler's socialism differs from modern leftist socialism, the left would spin that as him defending Hitler and the right would spin it as him defending socialism. It would instantly become and upgill battle to clarify what his intentions were and nobody would listen to him anyway. Only a dumbass would put themselves in that position if they were already as famous and contentious as Elon Musk.
>>540595572>But that doesn't really mean much if it's about going from having extremely poor living standards to have decent.Yes it does. It means that capitalism was better at improving standards of living than the current system of half assed socialism/capitalism you've got.>>540595615>There was also technological and industrial advancements at the time.Those technological and industrial advancements were the product of the end of the mercantilist systems which crushed innovation to keep the existing elites on top. It would have been impossible to create textile factories if the guilds were allowed to say no. It is completely inappropriate to divorce the benefits of the industrial revolution from the economic situation from which it emerged. Capitalism caused the improved standards of living, it wasn't an accident that the two coincided and then standards of living immediately stopped improving as rapidly when the progressive era and new deal led to greater government intervention in the economy.>It's not like free healthcare put an end to it.My whole point is that it's not free. You're paying for it with the loss of the prosperity you would have had in a truly free market. Which would also have included better healthcare than you currently have.
>>540595831>types right winger instead of left wing>AI imageAre AI bots still this fucking retarded?
>>540590546That's a major source of confusion. People think National Socialism just simply nationalism + socialism, which it isn't.People on the internet can't even agree on what Socialism is. Some people think Socialism = "government control"Some people think Socialism = free education and free healthcareSome people think Socialism = ScandinaviaSome people think Socialism = CommunismSome people think Socialism = TotalitarianismSome people think it's all of the above and more.
>>540595975my bum is on the swedish
>>540590351Okay but what about not paying flat tax rate Elon?
>>540590932Nigger, you are retarded.
>>540589949National socialist and Democratic socialist are different. The Nat Soc supported private industry.
>>540596059It's a good point, most people cannot agree on the definition of "socialism". I was going to say "in online discourse" at the end of that statement but I thought about it for a second, and really it's anywhere.>the government wants me to pay for a vehicle safety inspection?! THIS IS SOCIALISM!>the government says that I can't own a komodo dragon in my house?? THIS IS SOCIALISM!>the government is telling me to do anything at all? SOCIALISM!I think broadly if we're talking about socialism as an economic system with top-down government controls over corporations, labor, prices, and perhaps some other aspects, we could probably get most people to agree that those are all aspects of it, but what is the line between that and a more authoritarian system like you would find under Marxist-Communism, and where does "socialism" begin? If you don't allow corporations to dump industrial waste in the local river, is that "socialism"? I'm asking that rhetorically of course, to some people the answer to that question is yes, which makes discourse on other topics impossible. It really is a topic that's hard to get a shared understanding of terms where people constantly talk past each other.
>>540589949You don't need to be smart to win the lottery. Just lucky.
>>540596059>>540596353Hoppe's definition from "A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism" really is the best definition of socialism as distinct from capitalism.>socialism, by no means an invention of nineteenth century Marxism but much older, must be conceptualized as an institutionalized interference with or aggression against private property and private property claims. Capitalism, on the other hand, is a social system based on the explicit recognition of private property and of nonaggressive, contractual exchanges between private property owners
>>540589949>How is he so retardedthe nazis were self described anti-soviet so I think elon has just cooked his brain with ketamine
>>540592732>He's objectively an idiot who shills sci-fi to appear smart, but delivers garbage (or nothing).If you are saying that SpaceX and Starlink delivers no value, then you are dumber than Elon
>>540591169>Stalin didn't enter Eastern Europe until weeks laterThey had communist governments before the war dumbass.
But Hitler literally was a socialist, the name of the party he started includes it.>hurr durr that wasn't REAL socialism!Yes it was, retards. You're literally on the same side as Hitlermort.
>>540596415The Soviet union were neither the inventors nor sole practitioners of socialism. Neither was Marx for that matter.
>>540593996Names of these doctors suggesting euthinasia? They need a rude awakening. Those murderers for hire.
>>540589949Billionaires and people like him need retardation because it's more defensible than making sense all the time, being smart, and then making so much money while being in bed with government. Basically smart people are easier to hold to account; they should know better and we have plenty of proof that they do know better so when they control government and become trillionaires it's more than a silly accident, it's conspiracy and conflicts of interest.Smart people you can endless criticize and come up with theories about their intentions, dumb guys, silly autistic little kekistanis, you can always just call a retard a dig no deeper.
>>540589949Hitler was cool, and the “right” (i.e. not a feminist/tranny npc) has already fully accepted him. We are Hitler.
>>540589949It's called nepotism goy
>>540596492yes I know. kind of crazy the usa had a cold war with them then huh
>>540595951>Which would also have included better healthcare than you currently have.By getting fucked in the ass by big pharma and insurance? I thank god every day I don't have to deal with that shit. Yet we do have private options as well. We've always been capitalist. Welfare is just a question of what to spend tax payer/oil fund money on. It doesn't have to interfere with the free market.
>>540596407If we apply that to my example however, where does the line fall. A corporation is dumping industrial waste into the river their plant backs up to. They have access to the river, but they do not explicitly own the river. The people downstream don't own the river either, but they use the river as it is a public resource. If you prevent the company from doing what they want on their property, by your definition you are now "socialist" as a government, but if you allow them to do whatever you want they will poison a public resource and deny it's safe use to everyone else. I mean, under that definition basically any form of government is socialist, right? They're going to prevent people from doing certain things with their own private property.
>>540595951sorry for being confrontational.I agree that the rise in living standards comes from capitalism.I don't agree that we're "missing out" because women get maternity leave, and I get "free" healthcare and education. It's just a question of what to spend our money on. We can afford it regardless.
Is mamdani the new Hitler?
>>540589949Elon has JK Rowling disease.
>>540597000I hope so
>>540596550Yeah, the whole affair was pretty stupid. The US implemented a totalitarian bureaucracy at home ostensibly to fight totalitarianism abroad, and then spend the better part of a century propping up dictators around the world and building an empire which didn't benefit us.>>540596600>getting fucked in the ass by big pharma and insurance?The US doesn't have a free market in healthcare, in spite of what is typically claimed. We have a heavily regulated market which is specifically designed to protect a cartel from competition which would drive down prices. America is not a purely capitalist country, in fact in many ways it has less economic freedom than the Scandinavian countries. When those economic freedom scores come out Scandinavian countries are always dragged way down by their welfare states, but in terms of market freedom they are far freer than the US.>I thank god every day I don't have to deal with that shitI'm not advocating for what America does, I'm not retarded. I'm advocating for a genuinely free market. No government enforcement of cartels, no patents, no government licensing of doctors even. Definitely no government mandates people must do business with the cartel of health insurance companies.>Yet we do have private options as wellWhich are also better than in the US, so you clearly don't need socialism to have good healthcare.>We've always been capitalistI envy that, I really do.>Welfare is just a question of what to spend tax payer/oil fund money onYou could just cut taxes so people have more money to spend on healthcare if they want to, or to employ more workers so that more people can afford healthcare without socialism.
>>540589949>National Socialists aren't socialists??
there's a huge difference between a natsoc and a soc
>>540597414nazis added the socialist part just to get magats to vote for them. Many such cases.
>>540596706>If we apply that to my example however, where does the line falleverything example you gave was socialism.>A corporation is dumping industrial waste into the river their plant backs up toThat's a civil tort, it's not socialism to defend your property from someone dumping pollution on it.>If you prevent the company from doing what they want on their property, by your definition you are now "socialist" as a governmentIndeed, but the moment they start doing things which impact your property, then it's no longer about what they're doing on their property. You're preventing them from doing what they want to *your* property.>I mean, under that definition basically any form of government is socialist, right?Right, Hoppe is an anarchist. The next sentence points out that all modern societies are socialist to some degree.>>540596991>sorry for being confrontational.Why? I thought we were having an interesting discussion.>I agree that the rise in living standards comes from capitalismIt's pretty rare to hear someone from Scandinavia deny that. It's usually Americans who don't know anything about Scandinavia who think that Scandinavian socialism caused their prosperity.>I don't agree that we're "missing out" because women get maternity leave, and I get "free" healthcare and educationIt's really impossible to know what the opportunity cost of all the socialism was. We do know though that whatever it was, it would have been what people chose willingly instead of being compelled to do by the government. So by definition it would have been more desirable to those people. Given that Scandinavian taxes are pretty darn high, something like 50% all told from what I've read, depending on the country of course, that's a lot of things forgone for supposedly free healthcare and education. Half of everything from everyone. Also maternity leave is one of those things companies offer to attract employees without raising salaries, you'd get that anyway.
>>540594516yet somehow it just keeps happening
>>540589949but i like them already, no need for crossing wires
>>540597985>That's a civil tort, it's not socialism to defend your property from someone dumping pollution on it.No, the river is public land and nobody owns it in this case. The people who use the river downstream don't own it, but it has been ruined by the company upstream making it a poisoned mess (killing fishing, making it undrinkable, swimmable, whatever). So it's not that the company is infringing on the property rights of individuals, but the collectivized access to a resource.>Indeed, but the moment they start doing things which impact your property, then it's no longer about what they're doing on their property. You're preventing them from doing what they want to *your* property.I and other don't own the river, and neither does the company.>Right, Hoppe is an anarchist. The next sentence points out that all modern societies are socialist to some degree.Anarcho Capitalism is therefore the only form of capitalism which exists, and everything else that you or someone else might consider capitalism is in fact a socialist nightmare? So like, the wild west which was governed by the United States where there were effectively no controls over anybody doing anything yet a government which could do something actually existed and there was not a true state of anarchy was not capitalist but instead was a socialist economy and government in that time period by your logic/definition.
>>540589949Looks like he's making commies seethe.Which is funny.
>>540595951>It means that capitalism was better at improving standards of living than the current system of half assed socialism/capitalism you've got.Like I said. Giving a poor person 1 kr and say it improved their living standard and giving credit solely to capitalism doesn't say much. I'm not saying capitalism didn't improve. But saying welfare system ruined it is a bit weird. Majority of Sweden had become working to middle class at that point. I'd say Sweden not becoming hyper capitalist like USA is a good thing, since USA only has debt at this point.
>>540598673Sounds more like a Canada culture issue, that's my point.
>>540600233if the culture is "socialized healthcare," sure
>>540589949pretending to be retarded is how he gets actually retarded people to buy into his bullshit lol
>>540590792Exactly this. With a few adjustments, National Socialism was/is still a great idea and at the end of the day inevitable. (Even for Israel, Shlomo)
>>540600016>No, the river is public land and nobody owns it in this case.The intervening factor of the river does not diminish the liability the power plant holds for polluting someone's property.>The people who use the river downstream don't own it, but it has been ruined by the company upstream making it a poisoned mess (killing fishing, making it undrinkable, swimmable, whatever)You're injecting the tragedy of the commons and a host of other public goods theory problems which capitalism avoids by simply not having public property at all. Moreover even if we were to for a moment accept the notion that the river is unowned, a person owns their own body, and the power plant which dumps pollutants into the river is therefore violating people's property rights when that pollution enters their bodies.>Anarcho Capitalism is therefore the only form of capitalism which exists, and everything else that you or someone else might consider capitalism is in fact a socialist nightmare?incorrect, it's the only form of pure capitalism, all other forms of capitalism are only partially capitalist.>>540600180>Giving a poor person 1 kr and say it improved their living standard and giving credit solely to capitalism doesn't say much.If someone is so poor that they only pay 1kr in taxes then they probably would have their living standard substantially improved by that extra krone. But the benefits of capitalism stretch far beyond that. They aren't the only ones who have more available resources, everyone is, so everyone can afford to buy more and every employer can afford to employ more people for higher wages. So that 1 kr might not be much benefit at first, but the benefits of reducing the state's interference in the market are immense. I give the credit solely to capitalism because the state doesn't actually produce anything, it just taxes wealth which was generated by capitalism and redistributes it less efficiently.
>>540589949He made you assmad, didn't he?
>>540597426There is one difference, the target group
>>540600180>saying welfare system ruined it is a bit weird.Socialism in general is damaging your economy, the fact that it's spent on welfare instead of a global empire is definitely better than what the US does, but that doesn't mean that the money going to the welfare state wouldn't be better spent by the people it is taxed from.>I'd say Sweden not becoming hyper capitalist like USA is a good thing, aside from the welfare system, Sweden is more capitalist than the US. It's far easier to start a business and business is far less regulated in Sweden than the US.>since USA only has debt at this point. The US is so deeply in debt because the US government prints money and gives most of that money to welfare parasites like the military industrial complex. The debt isn't caused by capitalism, quite the opposite. American socialism just takes the form of a brutal global empire. I'd prefer it be wasted on healthcare instead, but more than either I'd just want America to return to capitalism.
>>540589949Does it surprise anyone that the world's richest person does not like socialism?
>>540603842>aside from the welfare system, Sweden is more capitalist than the US. It's far easier to start a business and business is far less regulated in Sweden than the US.It is easier because the government helps out people who wants to start a new business.https://arbetsformedlingen.se/for-arbetssokande/extra-stod/stod-a-o/starta-eget-stod-till-start-av-naringsverksamhetHell, the system allows you to leave work for like 6 months and start your own business without losing your employment. It's an actual law. You just don't get salary and then you go back to work if it doesn't work out.>The US is so deeply in debt because the US government prints money and gives most of that money to welfare parasites like the military industrial complexI completely agree.
>>540604170Yes, given that he got there by being a welfare queen.
>>540604337>It is easier because the government helps out people who wants to start a new business.over here it takes like 6 months just to apply for a business license.>Hell, the system allows you to leave work for like 6 months and start your own business without losing your employment. It's an actual law. You just don't get salary and then you go back to work if it doesn't work out.While I'm no fan of socialism or regulations, that's a hell of a lot better than the American government's habit of using regulations to limit the number of companies which can compete in a market. The US isn't so much capitalist as it is mercantilist at this point, at least in a lot of industries.>I completely agree.Yeah, my argument isn't for American style socialism/mercantilism/corporatism/fascism/whatever the hell our economic system really is. So when you argue that the US ain't great either, I completely agree, I am not saying the US is better or that Sweden should copy the US, I'm saying that Sweden could be even better than it already is. I'm sure that you will at least admit that the Swedish welfare state isn't very efficient and discourages poor people from entering the workforce. I'm personally of the opinion that given how popular the welfare state is in Sweden, Swedes probably would spend quite generously on charity if they weren't already paying for the massive welfare state, and private charities would be more efficient since they would have limits to what they could spend that would be far tighter than what the government does.
National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>>540589949hes american... how people wonder about some little brainissues
>>540589949That he equates Hitler with social democracy is a massive insult to national socialists everywhere. Elon, explain yourself.
>>540590351The capitalists who lives on federal handouts knows he’s not making it.
