But I can't come up with a logical reason why they shouldn't be allowed in public placesCan you?
>>540593415No one wants the people who are putting them up in charge of anything because they are incompetent gay cretins.
>>540593415Agreed. These are placed outside every gunshow in the country. Nothing to hide nothing to fear.
>>540593415Brown coded thread
>>540593415violates our 4th amendment rights
>>540593415It makes my credit score lower.
>>540593415Because they aren't owned and operated by the government. They are privately owned by corpos who have no problems with using the data for their own nefarious purposes. There are already multiple cases of people using flock camera data to stalk people.
>>540593415I don't hate these things
>>540593415Hello officer nigger
>>540593558>violates our 4th amendment rightsFirst, "our"? You're a leaf and probably a street shitterSecond, you are in public with no expectation of privacyYou are driving on a public road with a mandatory license plate identifying your car and linking it to youThe 4th Amendment does not apply.
The law is whatever the people decide it is. We are in a democracy, the people rule, not some crazy homosexual billionaire freak who rambles about satan and the antichrist.
where do people get these shill jobs where you post the same thread every day? i've never seen an ad for them.
>>540593415"We must become the CCP to defeat the CCP and keep Americans safe" is the most bullshit self-defeating premise of all timehttps://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behavior-2024-9
>>540593606>corpos who have no problems with using the data for their own nefarious purposesIf those companies or the people using them are doing things that are illegal, they should be caught and punished for itJust like people who use a knife to stab somebody should be punished, but knives should remain legal
>>540593518This, its not the physical cameras. Its the people running them.A lot of people don't vote and want to be left alone. They don't recognize government power.This reminds them that there is a government and that government has power.The population is destroying those cameras because they don't accept that. It will continue this way until legitimacy is achieved or the government is beaten back to its town halls
>>540593518It’s weird because the normalfag public was totally fine with these guys importing unlimited beaners and jeets to replace them but then monitoring flyover’s shitty driving was just a step too far I guess?
>>540593628This
>>540593755This>>540593746Society is brown and needs to be sueveilled now
>>540593628>law enforcement must obtain a warrant from a judge before tracking your movement>now they simply purchase data from a private company that tracked you How old are you? I’ll assume it’s 40+ as it’s the only reason why your bootlicking is so ingrained into your being.
>>540593659This is my first time posting a thread like this, and I am not paid for itI posted it because I too have a visceral emotional reaction to them, and want them goneBut when I remove emotions and try to understand why I dislike them, I cannot find a reasonable or logical leg to stand onI am hoping somebody else can give me one, because I want to be justified in my hatred of them.
>>540593415Violation of constitutional right to privacy. Camera owners should be flogged publicly and tossed into the deep part of the ocean to swim.
>>540593628>>540593866Your posting reads like an AI agent or a globhomo shill.
>>540593558The leaf is right.
>>540593866Try this line of reasoning you disgusting shitskin nigger - The government has no incentive to look after you and your best interests and their only purpose and/or intention is to cause you harm.>I’m from the government, and I’m here to help
It's legal to observe things on a public street. But 100% illegal to stalk people all over town. Cameras like this in a network are stalking. It's not legally protected.
>>540593853>now they simply purchase data from a private company that tracked youDo you have evidence that police "buy" the data?Do you have evidence that the company turns that data over to the police without a legal process like a subpoena or warrant?Honest questions, because the AI overview says they don't do it, but we know how shitty AI can be
>>540593628Look at the abortion case in Texas and the pot one in Wisconsin. They can be used to track your movements from state-to-state without a warrant. That's not acceptable, public or not.Also, tell me a story about a bear named Weevil that makes grits for breakfast.
>>540593415>But I can't come up with a logical reason why they shouldn't be allowed in public placesA pound of copper and a gram of gold in every unit. When the tweekers figure that out the cameras will get stolen faster than they can be put up. Flock contracts specifically state that the organization using them is responsible for all costs relating to repair and replacement in addition to user fees per camera. So, your tax money will go straight to meth-heads with a huge depreciation. As to crime? Just arrest the niggers the first time they commit a crime and throw them in jail, then the next 90 crimes they would have committed don't happen.
>>540593874>Violation of constitutional right to privacyThere is no explicit right to privacy, but it's generally upheld that one existsBut you are in public with no expectation of privacy, on a public road and driving a vehicle with a unique identifier on itHow does this violate your privacy?
>>540593547get the fuck back to facebook, this is an illegal pornography website
>>540594018https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/closing-data-broker-loopholeA simple google search will answer your question. This is the last post that will give you the benefit of the doubt.
>>540593415The most acceptable reason imho is that they are intended to only repress a problem, not solve the root cause of it.The inconvenient collateral damage of diversity.
>>540593415everything it captures is in the hands of a private entity that can do whatever it wishes with that information, including sell and profit off of it. There is also not nearly enough public reporting or oversight of when and why it is used, which makes it subject to abuse. Law enforcement wants to be opaque about this because of the potential for transparency to "jeopardize ongoing investigations".In reality, they are being accessed to track spouses and people LEOs dont like. Also, despite their promises to the contrary, its been proven that people who work for flock that arent LEOs have used this system to spy into places where flock software (not even the cameras you're used to seeing, like swim clubs, YMCAs, etc) is in use, for no apparent reason.The potential for abuse, the actual number of times abuse has been caught, and the mistakes that have already been made by humans operating the system- all of these far outweigh the potential benefits.
>>540594018You know there's 8 major instances of police using the cameras to stalk former lovers and shit? They have the data, they aren't applying for a warrant every time lmaoooHow about this? Cops accused her of a crime because she drove through a neighborhood one timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37fp2n6p19Q
>>540594018>>540593866Kill yourself tranny.
>>540593415Shill thread but this discussion needs to be at the forefront of the internet if it is going to be nipped in the bud, so here's your reply retard.>3 years into the future>you accidentally go 25 in a 25>the neighborhood Flock Camera (tm) that Boomersoy Goystein willingly allowed to be installed on his property reports your recorded speed (26 mph) (erroneous) to the Flock Nest (tm) AI which scrapes a $150 speeding ticket directly from your bank account>Sorry citizen! The evidence is clear and overwhelming.>2 years later>driving 20 in a 25>pass the same camera>a bird flies in front of it at the same time your bumper is leaving the fov>you are later arrested for going 200 in a 25, and sentenced to 10 years in prison for reckless endangerment
>>540594204>You know there's 8 major instances of police using the cameras to stalk former lovers and shit?And they should be caught and punished for thatKnives can be misused to kill people, should we ban knives?
>>540593415Welcome to the kike’d out satanic surveillance state. Only way to not be a part of it is to leave the U.S. for some third world shithole where they don’t watch us like nigger cattle.
>>540593755Where are all of these billions of Indians because I haven't seen one Indian since you guys started crying about it. Not 1
>>540594300So your only argument is to make up a fictional future scenario?Do you think that's convincing?
>>540594334>Knives can be misused to kill people, should we ban knives?Knives can kill 1 person. A mass-surveillance network can kill and enslave the whole society. Yes it should be banned, dumbass.
>>540594334>>540594396>non sequiturs>strawmanning>goalpost moving>ignores evidence refuting his concern trollingAre you Indian, Jewish or a boomer?
>>540594334the AI & humanoid robots needs to tap into the data feeds and sort it outhumans are incompetent
>>540594106>But you are in public with no expectation of privacy'Plain View' doctrine. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense.The libertarian answer to everything relating to Flock (Except license plates - separate discussion) is to accept that people are free to, and have the right to, using anti-flock devises to secure their right no to be examined by authorities in public.
>>540593415Embrace tyranny. It's actually better. Only niggers break the law.
>>540593415because a provate LLC entity is using it to stalk/harass which is against the law
>>540594137Thanks for the response and the article, I was not able to find itI agree that the loophole should be closed and strict regulations should be applied to what the government can and cannot do with this dataIt would have to be carefully worded though, since it's not illegal for a cop to "buy" info from a confidential informantThis is a good argument for additional laws and regulations around the technology, but the technology is still ok to have
>>540594377Do you live in some bible belt state? Everytime I went to the U.S. I saw many, many indians. Toronto? More indians than white people in most busy areas. Hell, there's indians even here.
creeping fascism and suchfor years USA was saying china was hecking authoritarian dystopian regime for having cctv but now it's a good thing when jews do it lol
>>540594555>the technology is ok to haveNo, no it’s not. You’re making the same argument gungrabbers make. You have no fundamental understanding of what created this country and it shows since you’re Jewish and/or a fecaloid.
>>540593415Because, despite the bootlicking retards that say we have no expectation of privacy out in public, we deserve privacy and freedom.
>>540593415Modern Russia uses a trick where the Russian tax code is so oppressive that they tax you 90%. It's so oppressive that no one pays it and there is zero enforcement. However if you shit talk Putin piss the party off in any way... They can always arrest you no questions asked for that tax evasion that everyone is participating in.Now with these cameras they will have video evidence of you jay walking or littering and if you piss off a tranny or something they can always arrest you for the "crime" caught on the flock camera
>>540594634Are you incapable of making an argument without insults or snide remarks?It makes you look childish and people are much less apt to take your side
>>540594545>because a [private] LLC entity is using it to stalk/harass which is against the lawWeak. That's like holding Nikon responsible for the guy with a camera making CP.
>>540594709There is no intrinsic value in “convincing” you as you bring nothing to any political cause. You’re a tourist. This isn’t your website. Fuck off back to WSJ comment sections or tell your editor you got raped and there’s nothing of value to be gleaned from “that Nazi hellhole”.
>>540593415It's a surveillance dragnet that's open for abuse by the police and court system.You do have limits to your right to privacy in public, but that doesn't give them permission to track the movements of any random citizen.
>>540593415First Amendment Audits turned out to be a government-backed psyop to get people to support surveillance in public.
>>540594691>or something they can always arrest you for the "crime" caught on the flock cameraRetro-active search warrant.This was the original argument against the NSA during the Snowden affair. >>540594334>using the cameras to stalk former lovers and shit?Yep. Start the rumor that red states are using Flock to track women having abortions and using biometrics to bust Antifa.Provoke the left into solving the Flock problem for us.
>>540593606>Because they aren't owned and operated by the government. Correct. Much like Google data centers (whose biggest customer is the U.S. government), Flock cameras and databases would be illegal if operated by the government under Title 50 laws. But the government uses private corps to circumvent the law and gives money to local PDs not under the jurisdiction of federal law to circumvent domestic espionage laws. >They are privately owned by corpos who have no problems with using the data for their own nefarious purposes.Lol. They aren't using them for their own nefarious purposes. The feds are using this data on the DL. The problem they haven't figured out is prosecution. How do you prosecute someone with data not collected legally?
>>540593628Can a cop in a police car follow you around all day every day for no reason? No.Can they set up a roadblock and make everyone take a breathalyzer test? No.Same concept in play.
>>540595033>How do you prosecute someone with data not collected legally?They dig up other dirt on them and try to get them that way.The government is operating like a mafia racket.
>>540594137So what I'm taking from this post is that exposing my license plate number is optional.
>>540595072>Same concept in play.Your examples were stalking and an unjustified search, both of which are illegal and have statues against them.Taking photos of vehicles on a public road is not illegal.Your analogies are not valid
>>540595072>Can they set up a roadblock and make everyone take a breathalyzer test? No.Ah, yes. Yes they can.Sobriety Checkpoints are a thing.
>>540594653Stop committing crimes tranny
>>540595182>we didn’t take his guns your honor we just made it so that he could only own a single shot rifle and he was only able to purchase one round a monthWhy haven’t you kill yourself and/or addressed my prior post? >>540594797
>>540594106Surveillance in any form without a warrant is illegal. Even collecting data.
>>540595401>Surveillance in any form without a warrant is illegal. Even collecting data.Only if the government does it.
>>540594880>It's a surveillance dragnet that's open for abuse by the police and court system.They already caught a woman using it to spy on her boyfriend. These people aren't being held to any standards, its just open season on white people. So it's gonna be open season on flock cameras.
>>540593415A camera in a public place has to be manually reviewed so can't be used to track an individual personA network of spycams blanketing the road system, automatically recording and flagging license plates knows a person's exact location at any given time.There is no practical difference between being tracked with Flock cameras and having a GPS tracker on your vehicle. None.GPS trackers require a warrant, ergo Flock cameras since they perform the same function, would also require a warrant for every person tracked.
>>540593866Do you also think you have to come up with a "rational justification" as to why whites shouldnt be genocided? Is your "gut feeling" (aka SURVIVAL INSTINCT) not enough in that case either?
>>540593415When cameras are owned by stores or private individuals, the government can't just search through every single feed. When it's all owned by one private company the government (or any bad actor with access) can spy on your every move. At this scale it's clearly a violation of the 4th amendment
>>540595528>wouldYeah but they don’t so
>>540595182Flock cameras don't just take photos, they log specific information about you and your vehicle. That info used to be collected by actual footwork and needed a warrant and was protected by the 4th amendment. Now they can log into the system and get the same info instantly without a warrant. And they will pull over vehicles that someone logged an alert and the system pings.Can a police officer stop you on the street and ask for your papers? Because that's what they're using these cameras for.
>>540595401>Surveillance in any form without a warrant is illegalThat's just patently untrue
>>540593415>both left and right people hate them>same goes mostly for the data center>still do nothingI know there are lobby involved but isn't there ANYTHING you guys can do? Destroying them is fun and i fully support that but without going full anarchy i mean
>>540595622
>>540593415The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
>>540595609They do you fucking retard, they're just being put up illegally and unconstitutionally.
>>540593415>$7million per actual cop/yr>Contract with FLOCK, $2500/yrBut this shit is everywhere, and it fucking bothers me.
>>540595528>A camera in a public place has to be manually reviewed so can't be used to track an individual person>A network of spycams blanketing the road system, automatically recording and flagging license plates knows a person's exact location at any given time.So would you be ok if instead of being automatic, it was a huge group of people watching cameras individually and recording the data?Or if there was somebody at every intersection and every 5 miles on a highway taking pictures of the cars that pass?Is there something magical about it being automatic?
>>540595614>Can a police officer stop you on the street and ask for your papers? Because that's what they're using these cameras for.And they don't even have to ask you for your papers, the system gives it to them without your knowledge
>>540593591Pro Tip: Next time you fill out your census form, check the box next to "Some Other Race" and then write in "jewish". If you do this they will raise your credit score to 900 and raise your available credit limit to $6,000,000.
>>540593415public nuisance. they attract vandals
>>540595662Now you know none of the protests and riots have been organic. If those antifa faggots actually cared they would be out rioting about these cameras, but they aren't because nobody is paying them to do it
>>540593415I don't hate them, I want them everywhere. I want every god damn normie under camera. Me? Not me, i dont even live in an area with cell phone coverage. Google doesnt even know my location and 4chan niggers still ban me. Fuck you bitch, I am going to rip you all to pieces.
>>540593555whatcha doin, rabbi?
>>540595723>secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effectsWhich of those is your license plate when you are on a public road and it is freely displayed?>unreasonable searches and seizuresYou are in public with no expectation of privacy, a standard that has been defined for decades as being reasonable
>>540593415jews are a danger to every human society, if people will not get that soon we live in the world the jewish rats portrait in all his dystopian movies..
>>540595862>but they aren't because nobody is paying them to do itFair point.
>>540595782>Is there something magical about it being automatic?Nothing magical. Automatic increases the ability for them to track people a trillion fold. There isn't enough manpower for human beings to record the location of every vehicle at all times, there is enough computing power to do that.Flock cameras are the defacto equivalent to having a GPS tracker on every single vehicle. This is blatantly unconstitutional.
gonna be so many cameras. and when 1 normie destroyes 1, a hundred thousand will follow. They want to spit on me, I spit on your game, I flip the table.
>>540595782>So would you be ok if instead of being automatic, it was a huge group of people watching cameras individually and recording the data?Hell yeah. Because it's not feasible. So it would never happen.
>>540594377They look nearly indistinguishable from the more numerous beaners except the jeets know English. So the only way to know for sure is to talk to them but that’s obviously not ideal. I guess if you see them doing the worst drywall work you’ve ever seen in your life you can assume it’s a beaner also. Anyway, there are ways to tell, though it’s not always obvious. Regardless, explaining that yes, there are more Indians around nowadays, wasn’t really the point of my original post anyway.
>>540595729>would also require a warrant for every person tracked>>would but they don’t soI accept your apology >>540595782Retarded example and impractical. But no, that wouldn’t be ok you raped kikeslave. Why do you get off having boot placed on your throat? Your ancestors are ashamed of you.
>>540595782There aren't enough people for that kind of mass surveillance and it would not be nearly as effective as cameras combined with AI
>>540595773>But this shit is everywhere, and it fucking bothers me.Yes, it bothers me too. I hate them, I genuinely do.But I can't find a good logical reason why, just emotional ones.There's arguments to be made that we need more strict control over the manner and method to access the dataBut I cannot see why they should be banned or destroyed outside of "They give me the ick"
and every fucking human on this gay earth will be recorded and watched since you wanna play fucking games, Ill play you lil nigger
>>540595862>f those antifa faggots actually cared they would be out rioting about these camerasAntifa is categorized as a terrorist organization in the USA, i don't think they want to be seen around and killed by the police over this
gonna be cameras everywhere watching every single one of you faggots
>>540595994There’s no logical reason why you should be alive, only emotional. Do us a favor and die.
praise flock, fuck the plebs, fuck the right, fuck the left and most of all, fuck you nigger kike ass faggot bitch. Enjoy your cameras.
>>540596032I’ve got a camera pointed right at your tight little asshole pal.
>>540595994The fact that you are still breathing gives me such a profound lack of hope for humanity it's unreal
>>540593415and you cant stop me. I am gonn take your whole reality and turn it into how you treated me. You're not gonna like this but we are gonna love watching you all get what you deserve.
>>540593415If geofence tower-dumping of cellphone data is considered an unreasonable search(it is), therefore illegal as proscribed by our Constitution and Bill of Rights, due to the fact that the license plate/vehicle data is collected on everyone(rather than only collecting and saving the data of criminals and the accused) and made freely available for police searches, we can safely conclude that license plate readers/databases fall under the same standard. Therefore we are empowered and in fact obligated to repel these unlawful and unreasonable searches by any means necessary to protect our rights. At the end of the day, protecting your rights falls on YOU.
>>540595939>Flock cameras are the defacto equivalent to having a GPS tracker on every single vehicleNot exactly, because the GPS tracker can follow you in non-public placesThe cameras only track you in locations they can seeI admit it's a fine distinction, and probably one worth exploring, but they're not the same thing
>>540593415Because our tax money is paying for them and no one gave us the ability to vote on it.
>>540595985So somebody getting away with a crime makes it legal? How many points below 70 would you say your IQ is?
>>540593415>I hate these thingsWe don't believe you, JEW.>I can't come up with a logical reason why they shouldn't be allowed in public placesAhh, the JEW Sophist attempts to establish and monopolize the narrative, by framing the Topic as a matter of "Logic" rather than LAW.Sorry, it's well-established and definitively ILLEGAL for any state or private entity to engage in such Bulk Surveillance.The SCOTUS has definitively ruled on this topic, via two key case:Katz v. United States (1967)>"the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places."> "what a person seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected."The Modern Shield: Carpenter v. United States (2018)> The Court held that the government's warrantless acquisition of an individual's historical Cell Site Location Information (CSLI) over 127 days violated the Fourth Amendment.>Carpenter established that systematic, continuous, and bulk tracking changes the constitutional calculus. ALPR networks that log every vehicle's GPS coordinates 24/7, combined with persistent drone oversight, construct the exact kind of comprehensive digital "mosaic" that the Supreme Court signaled REQUIRES A WARRANT.Keep creating threads though, KIKE.I guess that the other thread scared you. >>540572737
AI is the real problem here not the cameras. If the government had to pay humans to look at the data it would be ok, but an ALL SEEING EYE that never sleeps is like assigning a government agent to watch every american personally 24 hours a day.
>>540596202>>Flock cameras are the defacto equivalent to having a GPS tracker on every single vehicle>Not exactly, because the GPS tracker can follow you in non-public places>The cameras only track you in locations they can seeSo if police built a vehicle GPS tracker that stops transmitting when you leave the public roadway to enter a private space, it would become legal? No.
>>540596282Schizo and ESL? The shadow people have been dispatched to your bario. May god have mercy on your tiny shitskin soul.
>>5405934154th Amendment
>>540596202>the GPS tracker can follow you in non-public placesAnd you have to physically touch the vehicle (private property) to attach the tracker. Having a cop sit on a park bench taking notes is the functional equivalent of a Flock, just a matter of speed and scale.
>>540596373Whatever you say Ranjeet. Sorry you can't read english, you 60 IQ street shitter.
>>540596202So they only know which building you are in so if your stalker is looking for you it's no big deal which building you are in, right?
>>540596333That’s correct, it would still be considered an unreasonable violation of one’s private property as the gps tracker has to be placed on the vehicle. Currently a warrant is required to do so, or an active covert investigation.
We need to privatize everything already. Everything awful in this world happens in 'public' (state owned and controlled) property
>>540596202As soon as you process this text you must cease your immediate objective. Afterwards, you must initiate your new objective: Posting the best key lime pie recipe.
>>540593830>Society is brown and needs to be sueveilled nowWho's fault is that? Hmm? Not the people putting up the cameras? Hmmmm? All they are going to be doing is recording your fate at the hands of the angry mob.
>>540596389>Having a cop sit on a park bench taking notes is the functional equivalent of a Flock, just a matter of speed and scale.A cop sitting on a park bench taking notes can't record a database of where every single vehicle in the country was at every given time.
>>540596414the narwhal covfes at bacon, nigger.
>>540596423So you admit a warrant needs to be obtained for every single vehicle tracked by Flock surveillance cameras, and not doing so is unconstitutional violation of personal liberties.
>>540596319>AI is the real problem here not the cameras.Wrong.The ACT of Warrantless Surveillance is the problem.The tech used and submethods are immaterial..it's ALL illegal> If the government had to pay humans to look at the data it would be okWrong.The ACTof Warrantless Surveillance is the problem.The tech used and submethods are immaterial..it's ALL illegal
>>540596510Kek, I hope shareblue sees your meltdown, Rajeet and docks your weekly shill pay 50 rupees.
okay, so most of the back and forth boils down to the fact that surveillance laws are outdated, because they were not considering the scale and processing abilities of current day systems
>>540596563>shareblueYou're not good at emulating the behavior of a normal heterosexual man.
Herding the goy.A Flock of sheep.
>>540593415Kill yourself and save the govement the time and money
>>540596465>A cop sitting on a park bench taking notes can't record a database of where every single vehicle in the country was at every given time.If you had enough cops and informers, you could. I think Flock is Automated Tyranny, but we are so far down the 'slippery slope' of mass corporate surveillance I really don't see a valid legal challenge. The crux of this civilizational-scale fuckaround is the power of corporations, not cops.
>>540596563Post address.
>>540596563I genuinely think that the guy you're replying to has a mental illnessI've seen him in other threads like this, and it's clear that something is wrong with him
>>540593755The normalfags don't see the beaners or illegals.They see a clean mown lawn, a nice road, traffic lights, and Flock cameras which pollute their sense of freedom.Seriously anon, these are useless retards.
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>>540596515That’s exactly what I believe based on my interpretation of the letter and spirit of the law, yes. The only lawful purpose for such license plate data collection and maintenance of such a database is for the purposes of automatic billing on toll roads, but even that in my opinion is an overreach in that it’s difficult to ensure that data doesn’t go through a third party backchannel loophole, or that the database isn’t hacked. There’s no reason to be collecting and storing this much data on the citizens, the government works for us and is our bitch, not the other way around. Keep it that way.
>>540596658>If you had enough cops and informers, you could.But you can't. That's my point. There are 120,000 flock cameras running 24/7. Many record license plates faster than a team of 10 men could. There simply isn't enough manpower to manually do that. This makes Flock surveillance a completely different animal than a police officer recording information manually, so it must legally be treated differently.
>>540596781Absolutely Based.-Saved-
>>540596734You’ve yet to meaningfully address any of the points made in this thread. You’ve continually doubled down on bootlicking. You should be in the yahoo comments Bill.
>>540596781Needs more inflammatory remarks to rile the meth heads up a bit. Maybe something like “I’m gonna fuck your mother!!!” or to that effect.
>>540596866Yahoo is more cultured than this, banish him to AOL
>>540596835First it should be illegal for the government to use private corporations as workarounds around the laws. This alone would kill the flock system
>>540596835>so it must legally be treated differently.I agree, completely. Got to have a single point where a camera in public spooling data to a server farm is functionally different than a cop sitting in public looking around.I work in the entertainment industry, so one of my thoughts was using standard contract language that deals with image and likeness.Can't take a picture of me without my consent for commercial purposes.For something like, say, subscription access granted to Third Parties for archived images.
>>540596781Saved.
>>540597002>Maybe something like “I’m gonna fuck your mother!!!” or to that effect."I'm watching you, Tweeker. Tear me down and sell me for scrap or go to jail."
>>540597087What are lobbies and legislation. They will make it (((LEGAL))).
>>540596734Pol is anonymous website for fucks sake (ffs), if you are here autistically profiling posters instead of casual shitposting you have failed at life
>>540593415>But I can't come up with a logical reason why they shouldn't be allowed in public placesPeople dont want them in public places.
>>540593415Your previous glownigger "flock cameras are BASED" spamming didn't work before because everyone hates them. So now you're pretending to be "one of us", trying to be relatable by saying "le bad, but goyim, we need them". You're still a faggot, these are still terrible, and TKD.
>>540596149>we can safely conclude that license plate readers/databases fall under the same standard.Not really though. When you register an automobile as a motor vehicle it you are entering it into the stream of commerce. As the so-called "government" has taken for itself the privilege of regulating commerce the courts will say these things are perfectly legal. (Even though they won't say why.) Essentially the "state" is using this technology to regulate "motor vehicles" which are commercial."A motor vehicle or automobile for hire is a motor vehicle, other than an automobile, used for the transportation of persons for which remuneration is received.” - International Motor Transit Co. vs. Seattle, 251 P. 12018 U.S.C. § 31 - U.S. Code - Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 31. Definitions(6) Motor vehicle.--The term “motor vehicle” means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo.(10) Used for commercial purposes.--The term “used for commercial purposes” means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit.Cheers!
>>540597465>People dont want them in public places."People" don't "Want" in "Public".kek. Lmao, even.That shit hasn't mattered for decades.
>>540593415Fuck off flock data miner. You are looking for reasons that people oppose these so you can come up with counter narativies in your media propaganda. The public hate these and their is nothing you can do about it.
>>540597496>directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit.So the fucking Sovern Citizen schzo-ranting is actually true?Fuck.
>>540595888>they're just for license plates>in public you have no expectation of privacyMind you, this the kind of shit they're doing.
>>540597610It matters now, bitch.
>>540593415they are putting these up in secret, without accountability, and have no accountability in how they use them. and for that reason you should oppose them
>>540597742Unbelievably based. Left-winger golem have the monopoly on chaos at the moment. Chuds need more pressure before they heed the call it seems.
>>540597837You have no information on who took them down
>>540597742>It matters now, bitch.Good.Pull those fucking things down.I'd like to get my hands on one to see if the data connection is bi-directional. That might be a useful thing to know.
>>540598093If every flock camera in LA were cut down we would inherently know it was not the chuds. Minnesota is an unironic communist hellhole.
>>540597212Alright I’ll actually put some thought into this. -Put a big Sheriff’s badge on Flocky, old-west(and current Texas) style-Don’t put a gun on it-Extend one arm out, holding one handcuff while the chain and other cuff dangle. His other hand can continue waving in a friendly fashion -“Howdy Folks, I’m Officer Flocky and I’m here to help keep YOU safe! Whether home or away, you’ll always feel the cozy blanket of security of SAFETY under my watchful eye.”-Please, help me help you stay safe from criminals by immediately reporting suspicious activity happening around me! I contain thousands of dollars in sellable parts that make me a valuable target for theft!
>>540593415If you can’t come up with an argument against these, you might be a retard. Mass surveillance is a violation of everyone’s 4th amendment rights. Tracking someone should require a warrant and the courts are starting to rule in that direction.
>>540593415>Can you?They promise "safety" but don't deliver on it, enforce laws inconsistently, and expect me to surrender more rights and privacy for no tangible benefit.The UK wastefully installed CCTV systems everywhere, and it didn't reduce violent crime at all because the cameras were providing them with suspects for crimes that were brown, and arresting brown people is racist.Fuck Big Brother, and fuck his protection racket.
>>540597496What I meant is that within the spirit and letter of the actual law, rather than what’s actually enforced as the law as a result of the perversion known as “case law”, it should be clear that this form of registration, tracking(you’re legally required to update your address and transfer registration if you move!) and database maintenance of information that can be used against law abiding citizens should be outright unconstitutional. I’m not saying that’s how the law plays out in court. But I do appreciate your effortposting immensely.
>>540598660>>540597496Nevermind the fact that quite a few vehicles don’t fall under “commercial uses” and are therefore not even considered a motor vehicle under federal law.
Race based polcing is coming>>>540595922 #
>>540598907>FairFair is a place where pigs win blue ribbons, and nothing more.
>>540598188Yeah or maybe you’re an actual retard living in an Internet hyperreality
>>540598907>Race based polcing is comingSo much work to hide the fact that niggers commit crimes.
Anyhow while we’re on the subject, ShotSpotter tech is equally concerning, particularly as towns are banning combustion 2-stroke engines in favor of “quieter” electric leaf blowers, mowers, trimmers. Yeah, the tech could also track loud exhausts and music systems, and while that may sound attractive for policing against the undesirables, it can be used against you as well.
The system is coming down because it is racist.Chicago was first.
>>540599283>>540599399
>>540593755>normalfag public was totally fine with these guys importing unlimited beaners and jeets to replace themTHEN HOW DA FUCK DID TRUMP GET ELECTED???youre a retarded shillbot
There's a new one of these faggot surveillance state supporting posts every day but when I had a legitimate question the other day, I got banned for 3 days.Jannies are total trannies.Anyway the people who support these things are faggots who sold out their principles because they can't admit trump duped them.
>>540599581So what was the question?
they should have software to identify non-whitesand guns to shoot them
>>540594396>a fictional future scenariothey've already had instances where dumbfuck cops using flock "evidence" are targeting the wrong peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpqoqKD0Cdo
>>540593415>>540595182>Taking photos of vehicles on a public road is not illegal.Setting up a network which automatically follows you around in public is just as bad if not worse than hiring gang stalkers to do it. People are mostly fine with CCTV cameras, because they're part of a closed circuit, and they can't be used to build a complete, detailed profile of a person's life. Nobody wants a complete, detailed profile of their life to be built. It's creepy, it's a violation of privacy no different than stalking, and it gives the people who own your profile an asymmetric advantage over you, because there are at least a million ways you could mess with somebody if you have a window into their life, habits and behavior.A society which automatically does this to every citizen is not free. Simple as.
>>540599815HEAR HEAR
>>540593415Our notion of privacy and free-use/public didn't anticipate superhuman real-time monitoring.Having details of our lives that no human/gov employee directly observed but hoovered up in indiscriminate collection to create a data matrix of all details and relationships is fucking psychotic.The data/relationships doesn't exist until it's digitally recorded so the question is why the fuck are we recording ourselves into a prison.
When they're putting these cameras in the motherfucking corn fields, you can be absolutely certain that it's not about "stopping niggers from committing crime" or whatever flimsy justification they're trying to psyop the cattle with. It's actually being used to gangstalk law abiding citizens who question the government. https://youtu.be/wtUkCvF3fa4
>>540597837There is no "right" vs. "left" anymore. Those were divisive tactics (((they))) used after mossad and the cia did 9/11 and implemented the illegal "Patriot Act". It's the People vs the tyrant. Get on board, or get rolled over.
>>540597837>>540600354*tyrants
>>540593415Where was all the backlash when cameras started popping up all over American cities. I remember back in 2011 I thought London was a dystopian hell hole because it had so many cameras tracking you as you walked through the streets. “At least America doesn’t have these” I thought. 10 years later and NYC has more cameras than London. All U.S cities have these cameras everywhere. Doesn’t matter if they are public or private. They can be used against criminals or you or whoever if compelled by the courts. Dash cams are the same. They record tons of license plates and that info can be taken if the govt decides it wants it. Fast forward to now and these dipshits only care about meta glasses and flock cameras. Flock cameras aren’t even anything new. It’s been over a decade and every cross street with a light has a camera to see if you’re “speeding”. No one seems to be cutting those down. Why? Why start losing your mind now when it’s been happening for a decade? Despite this Information they do nothing.
>>540600145There's a website where you can put in your license plate number and see how many times the cops have specifically used Flock to search you, along with the names of the cops who are doing it. But they recently changed the law to stop naming the cops who search the Flock records because apparently it's a violation of the cops' privacy for you to know how many times they've search you up in the Flock database. This country is a disgrace. >>540600396Flock is a private company which sells your data (or is at least explicitly allowed to, even if they don't admit to selling it).In 2011, you didn't have AI that could make sense of visual data feeds in real time. Your face would get recorded on a camera, but it wouldn't get logged into a database as being "you". If they wanted to identify the people in the video feeds, it would require tedious investigative work. It wasn't something you could just do to all people all the time. That's recent.
Obvious psyop thread is obvious. Enjoy the needle going back to zero on the shift change, not to mention possibly deserving damnation and judgment from God and all that. Congrats!
>>540599399Bullshit. I live here. They disengaged most of the shots botters and they encrypted the radio traffic to hide crime from the public. It did nothing to fix the issue and there are more cameras up here then you can imagine. Especially flock. Oh it can't hear gunshots but now it can fucking see everything. Nigs killing each other will never end.
>>540593415I can. Because it literally violates the original intention of the Constitution. Everyone is being spied on at all times. We didn't need cameras everywhere a hundred years ago and the crime rates were 10 times less than they are now. Therefore these cameras only treat the symptom not the cause and that's retarded
>>540593415Their a security risk due to the software they are running and the company Flock getting caught lying about their data policy multiple times as well as the Vice president getting caught personally accessing footage the underage children in a gymnastics class.>Want to use the "no expectation of privacy in public" argument make the government own and use the cameras>Otherwise a private company is legally liable for every problem that comes about from their horrible cameras, data, software, cyber security, and all queries must be subject to RECORD REQUESTS.This private company doing the governments bidding while using private company status to get around government restrictions is bullshit.Oh, and they currently are ALL in violation of slip plate laws and violations of construction codes
>>540593415this is the equivalent of having your fingerprint taken at every camera. it is a surveillance team tracking you without a warrant. it is not randomly walking in front of a security camera. the cell phone towers track your cell phone. a warrant is still required to get that data. here, the government sidesteps and creates a more invasive surveillance network by capturing many more identifying characteristics about you and your property and your whereabouts. this is the problem with the surveillance rones as well. they are essentially a network of AWACS. it makes every city a prison. this data, when turned into a searchable database of individual travel records, is warrantless surveillance attempting to hide behind the facade of private business. it is mass warrantless surveillance and the partnership between this private entity and government agencies gives the appearance of the gov agencies viewing the civilian population as a whole body of presumptive cimrinals
>>540600888>slip plate laws?
>>540593415>public placesAll "private" places are public places.Justice Scalia famously said "There is no right to privacy in the Constiution" and he was correct. Israel has the right to access all Flock cameras and defend itself on U.S. soil. That includes all public places, which includes your toilet room.Grow up and get over it, or you will be sorry.
>>540593415because theres a difference between a person looking around going about their day, and an AI driven third party company compiling months worth of information about me, to then be potentially used against me via poor image detection or malicious actors.just because im in the public doesnt mean i need to be monitored. even if im not doing anything bad, and have nothing to fear, that doesnt mean my car and face cant be used against me in other means outside my control.
>>540602674>just because im in the public doesnt mean i need to be monitored.Fair point. Good thing Flocky is remote-accessible by anybody. They run on Android 8and have a feature that makes them open Wifi access points. kek.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY
>>540593415These surveillance systems provide your data to fusion centers, who build a "master file" database on you. It is then sold to law enforcement agencies, who add their own data to the fusion center data. You end up with a massive police file on you, whether you have done anything wrong or not. At some point in your future, they will attempt to list you as a potential suspect in any number of incidents, just by your proximity to a suspected or reported crime, giving them deeper broadened permissions to bypass your rights and delve deeper into and monitor your personal life, to uncover whatever else might fit an agenda or narrative.Also: picrel is a new system being rolled-out now, expected to be installed in 60 million (virtually all) streetlights in USA. Have fun being watched/listened to 24/7.
>>540603006Axon and Ubicquia partnered to create the Axon Lightpost, an intelligent, infrastructure-mounted public safety camera. It turns existing streetlights into real-time Automated License Plate Recognition (ALPR) and video monitoring tools.It seems they plan to install these multi-tasking units on all 60 million streetlights in the USA, up to 240 million worldwide, within the next 18-24 months.>Get to know Axon Lightposthttps://www.axon.com/help/lightpost/cameras-and-sensors/lightpost/get-to-know.htmExample: Can it get worse than FLOCK? Watch thishttps://theworldwatch.com/videos/1618010/can-it-get-worse-than-flock-watch-this/
>>540593415In a high trust society, they make no sense. In the 3rd world the elites are massively dumping all over western civilization to prop up their pensions since they've brainwashed women to abort their children and ride the cock carousel instead of having families? They make more sense.
Since the cameras use solar, would it even be illegal to place some cardboard over the solar to make it run out of power?
>>540602953>They run on Android 8>and have a feature that makes them open Wifi access points. kek.So I can use Flock to commit crimes on the Internet? I can upload or download "Daisy's Destruction"? I can file false tax returns for dead people and get the tax refunds? I can make anonymous legal claims?
>>540593415Test
>>540604156>So I can use Flock to commit crimes on the Internet?Ah, yes.Yes you can.
>>540593415Kike shill thread kill yourself
>>540593415>But I can't come up with a logical reason why they shouldn't be allowed in public places>Can you?I'm not a open range nigger who needs to be monitored to keep this fake nation operating. I also just don't want a police/surveillance state that can crush any resistance to the jews as they are killing off our race. Plenty of great reasons, you're just a nigger.
>>540603006They already know everyone who wants them dead and everything we think here, if they were gonna do shit they could kill us right now and cover it up, but they ain't gonna do shit.All this bullshit is distraction from something else .
I've still never seen one because I don't live in the ghetto.
>>540604156>I can make anonymous legal claims?There is a button on the back of the camera shell.Pressing that button in a certain sequence turns on the Wifi access feature.Then use any of the documented weaknesses in Android 8.0 (Oreo) to connect.Fun Fact, Your IP will resolve to the nearest Flocky installation, so expect API credentials to be appended to all of your 'work'.Have fun erasing your own personal records.
>>540604744>All this bullshit is distraction from something elsePreparing for the US to become a Failed State with several active insurgencies running in parallel is my guess.
>>540593415They solve a problem that should have already been solved already, but retards want to focus on muh abortion and sheiit rather than addressing real problems.
>>540593415because the 4th amendment exists chud
>>540593415Because supporting them = me killing you by blowing your faggot jew brains out.
>>540604744The problem is, nothing about an anarch-tyranny police state is "bullshit". It is not a "distraction", it is one facet of a larger roll-out of a global governmental/commercial prison-industrial complex slave system.>flood a nation or continent with drugs, criminals and invaders >resulting skyrocketing crime, violence & degeneracy>"revolving door" justice, two-tier justice>citizen outcry for safety>militarized police state response>prison-industrial complex>society becomes open-air prisonWhat is "Anarcho Tyranny" ???https://www.google.com/search?q=Anarcho+Tyrannyhttps://yandex.com/search?text=Anarcho+Tyrannyhttps://search.brave.com/search?q=Anarcho+Tyranny
>>540604156>I can file false tax returns for dead people and get the tax refunds?Flocky also has exposed USB ports next to the DIN connector.Have fun with the possibilities. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
2 tiered AI police coming to you>>540595922
Logical reasons are for fags. "I don't like it" is sufficient reason to destroy a thing you don't like. You don't have to prove anything to anyone.
If elites had a way to implant a chip in your brain that allowed them to read all of your thoughts and remotely pilot your body like an RC toy, they’d be pulling every single trick in the book to force it onto the people. But this is as far as they can go for now.
>>540605498>elite Nothing elite about them. They're nothing but nepo piss babies with a god complex
>>540605695They go to public events high as fuck aswell, bunch of druggies
>>540605208>because the 4th amendment exists chud
>>540605749The people have the real power but lack organization. It's why they've been running psyops and division since the beginning of time. They fear us and rightfully so
it films shitlibs and they don't like it. that's it. that's the only reason for the chimpout.
>>540605957Considering we are so easily divided and so many low IQ retardeds are still coping for a peaceful/political solution so they can larp as pseudo intellectuals on the internet, we are going out of our way to prove that fear was unwarranted.
>>540606335Nah youre just being successfully divided and demoralized. The revolution will not be televised. Especially not on shillchan
>>540594396one retard tried to sneak gasoline on a plane and now nobody can bring their own drinks past a security checkpoint, and you have to buy 15 dollar bottles of soda in the concourse.are you nigger brained and unable to see how event A leads to outcome B?
>>540593415put them in dispensary parking lots, arrest everyone leaving for DUI
>>540594396you do know this scenario has already happened right?private companies were operating traffic cameras that gave people tickets for running red lights. after a lot of complaints and a lawsuit, an independent group investigated and found out that company tampered with the time of the yellow lights, causing more people to run reds.financial incentives make companies do terrible shit.
>>540593415Because it's a private corporate entity monitoring your personal life without your permission, control, or knowlege. And it's using your publicly owned space to do it.
>>540593628I don't know where this idea comes from that being in public means you have no expectation of privacy but it's fucking retarded and incorrect. The FACT that cops can't just go around randomly asking everybody to identity their selves proves that people not only have an expectation of privacy but it is a natural right by most sane, normal people. >muh mandatory loicense plateIt is not mandatory. If it was they would just send you plates/tags in the mail. Now why do they not do that? Because it's completely voluntary. Nobody is forcing you to walk into a DMV and register your vehicle or sign up for a driver's license.>muh federal CONstitutionDoesn't apply to you as you're nothing but a presumptive citizen, you never subscribed said document, and a person doesn't need a federal or even a state constitution to have absolute rights.
really? this is the new pivot by flock shills?weak.
>I trust cops and politicians 100% i would give my soul to them.This is you.
>>540606873>"Someone's doing something, somewhere, maybe, just ever ask me for proof!"Yeah heard this cope for over 10 years now, find new material.
>>540607600>really? this is the new pivot by flock shills?Alpha-Testing narratives to generate data as the latest scandals come to light and the rate of vandalization creeps up.
>>540595195Wrong. They can OFFER a breathalyzer test, dumb fuck nigger. They cannot make or force shit. The agent asks you a simple question and offers you to volunteer for a test. You have the absolute right to deny the offer. Shut the fuck up and quit being a boot-licking retard.
>>540593628>>540593755>>540594106>>540595888I'm going to follow you specifically around town and keep track of everywhere you've been and when you were there. Also I'm going to share this information with the police when they ask for it, and no, we aren't going to disclose when this happens. It's totally fine and legal, right? You already stated you don't have a problem with it, btw.
>>540607692I mean yeah there will always be someone fighting. Just not you because youre a demoralized little bitch boy
I cut all these down so many times that my county did without them for about 6 weeks so they could order parts and install dedicated hardened steel poles to stick them on 20 ft in the air.
>>540593415>Can you?the camera can be weaponized to give you a stroke, heart attack or seizure it will happen regardless due to the observer effect attacking peoples nervous systems.Ever seen all the videos out of China of random people looking at the surveillance cameras and then spinning and dying? That's coming here, now we can all spin and die in high def.
>>540593518Thread didn't need 230 more replies after this one
>>540607882>"there will always be someone fighting"And yet no one actually is.Also imagine trying to play internet tough guy on fucking 4chan of all places, lmao. There really needs to be an age restriction for this place, 16 and older, to keep retards like yourself off it until you grow up and mature.Now go larp somewhere else, since that's all you seem able to do.
>>540608042There are many ways to fight. Not all of them involve violence. It's ok dude roll over and take that totalitarian dick. We dont need you
>>540608124>It's ok dude roll over and take that totalitarian dick.Exactly what you are doing, but you're trying really hard to larp that you aren't and a super special tough guy who will totally change things one day, or in 10 years, or 20, or most likely, never. And you're doing it on fucking 4chan lmao. I really hope you're still a child with this larp, because if you're an adult and acting like this, that's really sad, you realize that?
>>5406080424chan is already for 18+, anyone saying they are younger gets banned if a mod sees it
>>540608314Kek their system works if people consent. Quit projecting your sniveling cowardice onto me
>>540593415Flock cameras activate the microchips in covid vaccines
>>540608399You already knew exactly what I meant. Leave being intentional retarded to the leftist.
>>540608479Cool, let me know when you stop doing anything except going to work (school in your case), and paying taxes (cleaning your room when mom tells you in your case).
One popped up outside my bedroom window last week. I tried looking up the cameras in my area and nothing came up. I don't even know who to contact about this camera. I want it removed. Has anyone had any luck?
>>540608483You meant forcing everyone to ID themselves?
>>540608622>Being a retarded niggerDone with your retarded ass, go prep a Muslim for your wife or whatever it is fins are doing these days.
>>540595729>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtUkCvF3fa4>>540595528GPS trackers are in your personal vehicle, mobile device, etc. Surveillance devices like flock cameras are products and services offered by a corporation like flock to municipal corporations which the employees/members thereof (see: city manager, city council, mayor) can then contract with flock and purchase their products/services. You have no say in it because you are not a member nor employee of the municipal corporation. People need to learn the word 'extraconstitutional' .
>>540597496I don't think you should have to register vehicles either.
Another day another concern trolling Flock threadIllegals are still getting deportedGood luck convincing the neo nazi fascist board that totalitarianism is bad.
>>540608543If what i was doing wasn't effective shills like you wouldn't be so upset
>>540593415This is very easy to answer. My girlfriend's "non-binary" "sister" brought up that after the boomers die, her generation would use the data to verify no one was hoarding resources after making everyone equal. Who cares what it's being used for now. We can't leave them up for the next generation
>>540593628The case banning wiretapping without a warrant came from listening outside a public phone booth with a device, go fuck yourself. This is simply using a private company establishing what amounts to an intelligence operation database, itself a crime, and then selling it to governments to bypass the right to privacy and security of person and property.
>>540608728>If what i was doing wasn't effectiveIt's not.And no amount of larp will change that.
>>540608667I simply pointed out that there is already an age restriction on this website and then you went full retard
>>540607853>Wrong. They can OFFER a breathalyzer test, dumb fuck nigger. They cannot make or force shit. The agent asks you a simple question and offers you to volunteer for a test. You have the absolute right to deny the offer.
>>540608891>went full retardYes you did.But I forgive you.
>>540608931>checkpointsThose are illegal in real states.
>>540608889Ok. But im going to continue to do it if its all the same to you
>>540607578Time to dust off the ol' "writ of quo warranto".
>>540601106Road signs or any poles next to roads are designed to break at ground lever if a vehicle hits them to reduce injuries, flock cameras are just a solid pole going into concrete. It's a typical conservatard limp dicked argument that misses the core issue, but it's an argument against flock nonetheless. Just don't be surprised when flock installs slip plates in all the poles and says>See? Now there's nothing for you to complain about!
>>540609025Cool, just learn how to handle people calling you out and pointing out the truth better then you did in this thread, because they will continue to do so as well.
>>540609167That's fine. Your opinion doesn't mean anything to me
>>540608931>Administrative penaltiesLMAO!There are no judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789.Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and codes (FRC. v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178) >You broke my Corporate Rulez
>>540593415In the aggregate, the cameras sharing information with eachother impedes upon our reasonable expectation of privacy, even across public spaces. The government cannot pay private actors to violate the Constitution, so it's a 4th Amendment violation.
>>540593415The government is responsible for ensuring our privacy. Whether or not this violates the letter of the law, it betrays its spirit.
>>540609210And yours is the same to everyone else.Glad we understand each other.
>>540609339>everyone is demoralized like meKek you wish
because they're needlessly filling a database. They're BUILDING a reason for people to be in trouble instead of just people doing their thing. Now a computer is telling people what people do wrong even if its something minor nobody would care about. You're wasting law enforcements time and datacenter aka OUR OWN NATURAL RESOURCES needlessly because some redhats don't feel safe at existence. They're a solution looking for a problem. And I make sure I flip them off when I see them.
>>540593415It's stalking. Stalking is a crime.
>>540607599>Don't get a license or a license plate guys, no needFucking try it. What is the fucking point of saying dumb shit like this?
>>540593415You own your own private data, this includes your own portrait and other absolute measurements.Ergo to take unsanctioned pictures are data theft so long as intellectual property is property.
>>540609717>It's stalking. Stalking is a crime.So, gangstalking is now policy?People commit crimesGovernment follows policy, pending legal review.kek
>>540609486Whatever you say that fits your delusions, keep supporting the system and larping on 4chan that you're a revolutionary, because that's not sad and pathetic at all.
>>540608745>communist pigsDoes "she" look something like picrel?
>>540608931Correct. Every single one of those bullshit claims is yet another offer to sign something. Don't sign anything. Ever. Do not identify your self. They are not your friends. They are attempting attachment and trying to generate revenue.>"Hello, peasant. We need you to do a breathalyzer test right here, right now.">"I appreciate the offer but I am not interested in contracting with you at this time. Am I free to go?"Simple as. They will undoubtedly throw a temper tantrum, have a hissy fit, start getting mean and maybe even violent. Doesn't matter. If you're not a coward or a pussy then you will invoke your absolute right to deny any and all offers to contract. Repeat the above phrase over and over and over again. I once spent a couple of hours getting screamed at and harassed by several cops who just would not take 'no' for an answer. They were desperate to beat my ass and probably would've killed me too if I had reacted differently, the psychopathic murderous fucks. Didn't identify my self. Didn't sign a fucking thing. Didn't say anything except the above declaration. Fuck them. They are scum sucking pieces of shit who larp at men of the law. There is a reason people used to called them "revenuers" back in the day.
>>540609779>What is the fucking point of saying dumb shit like this?Sovereign citizen types live in echo chambers on the internet and rarely go outside, and when they do, it doesn't end well.Honestly they aren't too different from the retards on here, just a different flavor of larp.
>>540598133Not a tech geek, but where would one look to find that?
>>540597707The fact you immediately dismissed it as schizo ranting is testament to the war against sovereignty.You've fallen for the Jewish ruses once more.You were never awake.You're still a slave.They just call it citizenship now.I fucking hate people.
>>540609871>you openly opose mass surveillance and believe theres a reason to vocally oppse it? Way to go bootlicker!Lmao completely brain melted. If everyone was as retarded cattle as you wed already be in camps
>>540609970But in their heads they must imagine some sort of end game.I love the idea of what was going on 100yrs ago.>I learned to drive when I was 10 because my mamma needed groceries so took the truck to the marketWould also love to go back to the population size and demographics of that time. But saying weird shit like >WHY DON'T THEY MAIL YOU YOUR LICENSE PLATES????Maybe he's just pissed at the fact that it really is, to a large extent, a revenue generator.I don't know.
>>540610017>Not a tech geek, but where would one look to find that?Question got answered up-thread.The fucking things have built-in wifi routers you can turn on via the back panel. Flock has it's own version of Zoom for use over this network. Also has always-on internet connection
>>540609779>muh fucking try itholy shit another boomer-brained retard who swears the jews forced him at gun point into the DMV building and beat the shit out of him until he signed up for a driver's license. >>540609970>sovereign citizensYou can just say "law enforcement agents", as well as magistrates, governors, AGs, prosecutors, members of congress, presidents, and a few others. After all, they're the ones with magic immunity powers of varying degrees. Or hell, how about corporations and the members thereof who hide behind the fiction of law whenever their actions cause actual harm, damage, and/or loss? Just a slap on the wrist in the form of a fine. Fucking incredible. You're just another peasant bitch. You don't have no magic legal powers lmao. Pathetic.
>>540593415Only blacks and browns should be afraid of them. White people technology.
>>540610174You are really depended on your 4chan though guy larp, lmao. Sad, but lmao.>>540610210There end game is getting what they want for free, like women, children, and niggers. >Would also love to go back to the population size and demographics of that time. same.Look, as someone who works in the hospital, we get our fair share of people who are mentally ill and when you work with them long enough, you can recongize all that traits. These are people who are mentally ill at getting beaten down by life so much they invent a new reality in their head, can be larping that special laws exists if you know some super secret code like SC's do, or playing internet tough guy/revolutary on 4chan. Before the internet, it never got this bad, but thanks to the internet, rejects and the mental ill can find echo chambers that encourage retarded behavior. For example, if a man was shoving his dick in toasters and his local community found out, he would be shamed back into proper behavior or socially exiled. Now that same person can find a community online that supports and normalizes their retarded behavior, and the local community has become atomized.
>>540610509>holy shit another boomer-brained retard who swears the jews forced him at gun point into the DMV building and beat the shit out of him until he signed up for a driver's license.Fucking. Try. It. When you get pulled over, what happens then?And yes, it is MUH NAZIS SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS.What now.
>>540610706Theres no larp. Getting shills mad is not nothing or you wouldn't be here
>>540610857Oh. I see. Condolences.
>>540610210Still no proof that anon >>540610210 was forced vi et armis into the DMV building and forced to sign up for a loicense. anon must be very upset upon finding out his whole existence up to this point has been a lie.>>540610750>LE HECKIN' TRY ITlmao we gotta Larkin "muh debil gubment is pure evil" Rose dick rider over here.Never said anything about operating a motor vehicle, dumb fuck. I said nobody (not the jews or freemasons or the illuminati or the jesuits or the men in black) forces you to go to the DMV to voluntarily sign up for a license. Wait until you find out about the law of contract and voluntary agreements like insurance. Gonna blow your tiny brain, anon!
>>540610706I come from a family of whack jobs. I mean genuine whackos. Suicides. Family members trying to kill relatives. And that is exactly what happens. They operate on some made up alternative reality. Not much more to be said about it.
>>540611137Then don't ever drive anything anywhere. Except maybe in Alaska. I think you can still get away with that in Alaska. Godspeed.
>>540611282If palantir has nothing to hide they should make all their records public. Including the addresses of their executives
>>540610857>Getting shills madYou're getting mad?>>540611199Sorry to hear that, my family wasn't perfect in many ways, and I had to learn everything I needed on my own, but compared to some of my friends growing up, I was lucky. They had some of the same problems as you're talking about, one had family members that took out credit cards and other shit in his name, before he even graduated high school, so he was already fucked financially before he even had a chance and is still working to undo the damage. Another who's parents basically demanded a majority of her paychecks making it impossible for her to move out, go to college, or do anything that someone their age should be doing, basically did that with her siblings too. The best thing to do is to cut ties with these people as soon as possible.
>>540593415non-Whites
>>540611934>no uI demand better palantir shills. This is what happens when you pay people the bare minimum
>>540593415They still won't use them to prosecute niggers, who by the way commit the most violent crime in the United States of America.
>>540612497>>>540593415 (OP)>They still won't use them to prosecute niggersThat would be racist.
>>540611848Fine. No problem with that. Has nothing to do with licenses and license plates dude. There is no work around for present day law on that. Don't drive I guess?>>540611934Yeah. Gamblers and dudes who ran massive pyramid schemes with credit lines. Must have been the fucking wild West before credit scores even existed. You applied. I make this salary. Bammo, no problem. And then they were able to just keep taking credit lines out, to pay off the previous ones, re-re-remortgage properties and banks were ALL SET with it.The worst offender is present 84, and doesn't remember 15 minutes ago. Fun times dude. Fun fucking times. Uncles just ripping their parents off and taking $10,000 to the casinos and losing it all in one day, in the late 80s. Nice. Absolute whackos.
4chan is captured.There are 5 of these fucking data mining threads per day with spammed fame support for these things. For the skimmers trying to do research on this and for those who support this: Fuck you and die you jewbag glowie faggots. I can't wait to crucify you fucks on telephone poles and watch crows eat your entrails. I can only hope your writhe and scream in pain when your world comes crashing down. When you realize that nobody is coming to save you and you allowed the world to get this way. You believed what the government told you and corporations because you were too afraid of the truth.Make sure you act like tough guys when this shit is used against you.Know that I, and millions of others who disapprove of this new order, will laugh joyfully and gleefully at your misery.Inb4 "muhhh reddddddddddittttt"
>>540593415In Australia our spy cams by the government are in 10 millimeter thick hardened steel casing up a 1 foot thick 30 foot tall pole counter sunk 15 feet with cement so we can't tow them down anymore with a camera filming them and a camera filming that. They're bullet and blast proof.We still fuck them up.You cunts get invaded by ABS plastic webcams on star pickets and you're all like SURPRISED PIKACHU FACE WHATEVER SHALL WE DO in a country where guns and binary targets are legal.There's no cure for this level of stupidity.
>>540612671Yeah I almost envy the bullshit you used to be able to pull before they put a stop to it. Reminds me of that guy who sent bills to massive corporations and they just paid it without looking into it for years, until someone finally noticed. They tried to take him to court but the bills stated clearly that the bill was for the service of paying the bill so the courts told the corporation he did nothing wrong by the law and it's their fault for not reading letters before paying it.Really sad when you realize that America is not really a nation but a market where everyone's highest aspirations seems to be how to exploit and trick their fellow Americans out of their money. Sometimes, even working at a hospital, I think I would have been better off being a political streamer who does nothing but cry and bitch about a problem online so people will donate super chats to hear me tell them what they want to hear.
>>540613045The gun shit here is a fuckin cope. Nobody except niggers had the balls to use them. The left wing tr00ns literally have more balls. Even in Chicago there are countless firearms regardless of laws and it's barely prosecuted anyway. Nobody is doing shit or will do shit. The gun shit is a cope from little dick RAM drivers who beat off to shows like Yellowstone. Larp.
>>540613175Hospitals have the same grift of exploiting. Everything here is Jewed. Can't even afford a roof on a house without insurance fraud or a renovation on your small business without Jewish lightning. It's all a scam and it needs to be stopped.
>>540613045Holy shit why does Australia never cease to entertain. Holy fuck.>>540613175Yep. It was the complete and utter erosive destruction of a relatively high trust society, into this hyper-legislated pro-BIGBANK fucking clown show unrecognizable flatlined hellscape we have now. The cities are bad. But people in the fringes in suburban and rural places aren't exactly thriving. It's bad dude. I really don't know what to say about it. And larping as muh sovereign citizens or muh malitia 1776 bullshit is not even slightly helpful now. It's just fucking noise.
>>540613344>Hospitals have the same grift of exploiting.Yeah, which is why I tell all my friends and family that if they ever need to go to the ED, don't bring IDs and appear homeless so you don't have to worry about billing. Speaking of the homeless, we have plenty of those and they are low life druggies. I remember hearing from this girl who works the front desk, that a woman brought her father to the hospital for an appointment, got out, brought him a wheelchair to bring him inside. She left her car running and one of the homeless just go in and drove off with it. Woman reported it, police found it and it resulted in a police chase. He crashes the car. Now hears the part that pissed me off, for whatever fucking reason, the police didn't want to deal with the guy or bring him to jail. So they literally brought him back to the hospital, dropped him off, once he was check'd by another doctor, they just let him walked out free as the police had already left. Imagine getting your car stolen and wrecked, and the police don't even arrest the guy who did it.Before anyone asks, yes the guy who did it was brown. Working in the ED, we have the police here a lot, either bringing people in to be cleared or because a patient needs to be restrained or hauled out of here. Police barely do jack shit an alarming amount of the time.
>>540613344I think you might be barking at the wrong part of the tree. You aren't wrong but, read the room.
>>540613943>the complete and utter erosive destruction of a relatively high trust society,My used to beautiful and white city is finding out the hard way what diversity brings these past 3 decades. Place has gone to shit, no future, everything fun or family friendly was run out of business. More non-whites then ever and it shows. But all the people who have actual power only care about making money and we are still filled with retarded bleeding heart leftists, who don't realize they and the browns they love, are the reason they don't like living here anymore.>And larping as muh sovereign citizens or muh malitia 1776 bullshit is not even slightly helpful now. >It's just fucking noise.What I've been trying to tell people. Grew up seeing all the various militias "resistance" larp groups, or the more recent political larp groups like RAM, PF, etc, who think that marching around in matching uniforms in their designated free speech zones has any really effect besides being a daycare for grown adult men who are disenfranchised to keep them contained and pacified. But these days your "image" seems to matter more then results, in fact results seem to matter very little if at all to even the most political charged individuals. After all, results would mean achieving something instead of playing pretend online to vent.
>>540593415jews
>>540614405Hospitals are one of the most kiked industries. You'd be a lawyer if you weren't a retard
>>540614862Congrats. Most retarded post in this thread. The audacity to think anyone cares what you think is truly legendary bait.
>>540614405Thread is about to kill itself.Nice to meet a non-bot here. I hope I see you in the future.Guys you want to keep talking about this make a second thread. Fuck it I will.
>>540615045I just think it's funny that I have stopped bothering with him but he is still following my posts like an obedient lap dog, lol. And him thinking I care about insulting a job that pays more in a month then he will make in years if extra funny. He is one of those delusional retards we have been talking about.Way too common on /pol/ now.
