https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/cmp-approved-sell-more-100-134815134.html
>>540625036It's road trip time
>>540625036Is that the semi autto assault rifle from cod
>>540625036They still sell m1 garands
News flash, people have been buying AR-10s, FAL clones, G3 clones and building them from parts kits for decadesThe M14 is just the US version of the FAL and G3retard
>>540627782COD4. MW2 has the Ebr.
>m14 with the giggle swtich removedJust call it an m1a
Awesome2 grand for an old rifleYou know you can buy a brand new one for that much right?M1A
>>540628207The appeal is that this is the (almost) real deal
>>540628207The old ones were built far better.
>>540625036Okay guys lets settle this debate once and for all, which gun is best m14 or m16? Was it a mistake during Vietnam for the US to abandon the m14 for the m16?
>>540628119Cod 4 uses M21 I think
>>540628029>The M14 is just the US version of the FAL and G3>retardYeah but it has a wooden stock that can be bedded with epoxy for greater accuracy for a few hundred rounds.Otherwise, yeah, not a sniper rifle, not worth blowing match ammo through without that bedded stock though.The G3 and FAL suck, I own a SA-58
The only thing that sucks is that you need be part of a CMP club or some other thing related to CMP>>540628251M16, 5.56 can do the job just fine and there's better guns in 7.62x51 or .30 caliber in generalAlso it led to the M4 which arguably the best all around rifle next to the AKM.
>>540628251the m14 was long - bad for wielding in the jungle, and made of wood - which would swell when it got hot and wet in the jungle. it broke down due to the environment. would have been fine in a open dry area like the middle east
>>540628265It has both
>>540628244They're still shot out, even if it took longer
>>540628277The FAL is just miserable
>>540628197Animes about guns are always a pain to watch because irl Japanese can't even own guns.
Lads do the needful, send one over here and I'll lend you my foreskin
>>540625036What's the difference between that and a shit ass PSA AR10 for 800 bucks?
>>540628406>m14 was long - bad for wielding in the jungleSo was the FN FAL but it served them well in Vietnam plus other than some "military experts" who did zero fighting in the war saying it was hard to wield in the jungle you didn't hear any soldiers complaining.As for the swelling of the wood they fixed that very fast.
>>540628251M14 was too heavy, Americans needed something lightweight. Only muscle heads could carry M60s and they probably bitched about it the whole time. Grandpa's army could have handled M1 garands and M14s, but they were sending spics and moon crickets to vietnam so they got the fisher price plastic guns.
>>540628507Imagine not being a man among men.
>>540628575japanese can own more firearms than your shithole, you fucking retarded faggot. now shut the fuck up bitch, it's time for your sister to suck my cock again pussy.
>>540628649The trial of men is to ask for an extra helping of misery
>>540628352and i own both.
>>540628673Japan's Gun ControlProhibited items: Handguns and semi-automatic rifles are completely banned for civilians.Allowed types: Only shotguns and air rifles for specific uses like hunting or sport are permitted.Screening process: Requires mandatory classes, written exams, mental health evaluations, drug testing, and extensive background checks including family interviews.Storage and checks: Owners must store weapons and ammunition strictly as mandated and submit to annual police inspections.Paraguay's Gun Constitutional right: The right to keep and bear arms is broadly recognized.
>>540628673You've been done>>540628780Done him
>>540628575Sucks but I enjoy anime with guns or about gunsKenichi Sonoda was the GOAT for making gun anime, he did Gunsmith Cats after all.>>540628597The AR-10 never saw combat as far as I am aware outside of doon coon shooting in Afghanistan in the form of the SR-25 or HK417The M14 did see combat>>540628745Nice>>540628780So fucking gay, Japan's only saving grace was that it was practically an ethnostate but now that's in danger with them bringing in those filthy pajeets
Gotta snipe nigs at the border
>>540628673They can not, it is however, stupid expensive over here.
>>540628937I would assume that there's mag capacity bullshit tooIn that case I'd just take the stainless .40 S&W Tangfolio and max out the firepower if you can't get the full capacity.I have a Jericho which is almost the same as a Tangfolio which is the same as a CZ-75Fuck I wish I could have all of them in my collection
>>540628251Best decision they ever made was to dump the M14.
>>540628745Compmagfornian detected. I know your pain
>>540629083The best was adopting the Sig MCX Spear 277 FURY
>>540628607Actually there were a shitload of complaints.
>>540625036SHALL
>>540629051Is DERYA good or is it unredeemable turk shit?
>>540628597The PSA gun will actually hit where you want it to
>>540629130May I see these complaints?
He thinks people are going to fight for his third term.
>>540629178Personally I would avoid anything turkish unless it's Canik, Tisas, or whoever is making that Spas-12 clone.That Spas 12 clone is looking delicious but my eyes are already set on the Benelli M4 and Beretta 1301/A300
>>540629090at least it comes out easily. you should have seen how much money and time i spent defagging my new pistelle. still waiting on another part so i can eliminate that magazine disconnect too.
>>540629110>bloat rifle
>>540628352Why is the M4 better than the M16? Serious question. It's supposed to be an urban skirmish weapon, right? Do you really get enough benefits out of the shorter build? I'm no funz but I've handled both weapons.
>>540628251m14 was a lazy attempt at redoing the garand after the entire meta had already changed, and completely impractical with automatic fire which was a lesson learned many years earlier with shit like the AVT-40 and T20.>see STG-44 do well>see AK-47 do well>go full retard insteadhuge waste of time and money
>>540629332It's more customizable and 14.5/16 inches will get the job done for most engagements since most are generally done within 100 yards anyway
>>540629226Yes you can. The M14 was the downfall of Springfield Armory, then trying to sabotage the M16. Just gotta look it up. Do your diligence, faggot, its due.
>>540628251The Mattel M16 is still the most effective weapon in the US arsenal, no weapon since or before it has the craftsmanship or technology to surpass it.
>>540629265>saurOuch
>>540629424>These complaints I brought up exist okay but I'm not going to post any you go look them up insteadYou should be doing YOUR diligence ready to provide examples if you are going to bring the topic up.
>>540629332most of the soldiers complaints about the m16 were fixed in the M4
>>540629499The P22x line are actually the best pistols that sig ever made
>>54062940918 yearold cheerleaders named Tiffany are hitting the 300 yard targets in basic training with a 14.5" barrel and iron sights. >t. Was in basic with Tiffany.
>>540629620That's the point, 14.5/16 will get the job done
>>540629589even the M16A1 was a huge upgrade they rolled out quickly during early vietnam, they kept improving it all the way into afghanistan. most of its shitty reputation came alongside disaster tier casualties when the americans first landed with prototypes and no real plan.
>>540629589Biggest upgrade was the feed ramps which was simple and a total game changer.Ive seen quite a few budget builds that were jam-o-matics that only needed a little polishing to cycle like glass.I myself bought a $400 Beowulf upper for shits and giggles and it sucked ass. But about 30 minutes and a dremel and now its one of my favorite rifles.
>>540629891If anybody is curious...5.56 M4 style barrel.on the left, .50 Beowulf on the right.My discount upper had the beowulf chamber (single massive feed ramp) mated to the M4 style housing (dual feed ramps).So I dremeled the dual ramps into one smooth ramp (which is how non-bootleg Beowulfs are built).A lot of hate for the AR15 is from cheap builds that are just slapped together with any finishing done.
>>540625036M14s are baby shit and every American kid should own one.
>>540629589>>540629809The version that fixed a majority of the problems of the m16 was the m16A2. With that most problems were ironed out and really the models afterwards were small improvements but no where near as much of a leap as from the first m16 to the m16A2.
>>540630161Personally I would be down for a 300 blackout upper one dayI do have one AR pistol (that I haven't shot yet) but thats in 5.56 to remain compatible>>540630239I hate that Colt A2s are damn near impossible to find
>>540629564>The M14 was deemed "completely inferior" to even the World War II M1 Garand in a September 1962 report by the comptroller for the U.S. Department of Defense. Source: Kay, Bruce I. (June 10, 1977). "An Analysis of the Infantry's Need for an Assault Submachine Gun" pg. 9>
>>540629332>Why is the M4 better than the M16?Weight
>>540630300I said in my previous post complaints form your average soldier using the m14 rifle not some top brass bureaucrat in the military who barks orders from behind a desk while staying far away from the battlefield. If anything you are just proving what I said about the too heavy complaint mainly coming from "military experts" instead of the those actually wielding the firearm in the battlefield.
>>540630522oh please, even as someone who has never been on a battlefield, just carrying in general makes me really take weight into considerationit is funny when someone like me can take the hint but not some top brass guy
>>540625036M14 isnt a sniper rifle, you dumb nigger.And it's the Civilian Marksmanship organization. They've done this with surplus Springfield bolt actions, M1 Garands, M1 carbines, etc.
>>540625036m14 sucks dick and it won't be a "real" one with full auto selection.seriously this was/is a bad gun.
>>540630758>slap rail system on it>slap optic on itBoom, you have a designated marksman rifle chambered in 7.62 NATO. It aint the best, but it will do the job. Bad part is price of ammunition. Reliable 7.62 NATO is about $1/round.
>>540628197Don't they have to demill them by destroying the barrel and receiver before making them into semi auto guns? Or is that just an import thing?
>>5406250361pbtid
>>540628029It’s a 223, not a 308 dipshit
>>540629332Carbine length gas is too much dwell time on a 14.5 or 16, mid length is better. M4 is a meme poorly designed so they could mount bayonets. 11.5'' carbine is better at what the M4 was trying to do. Nothing is better than M16A2 because it has the best ballistics with the greatest variety of ammunition, it's just long.
>>540632627I know some preban select fire m14s exist out there but did the government use them in any large numbers or the semi auto version? Am I thinking of a mini 14?
>>540625036They've been doing this for over 75 years. Did you think Military Surplus stores were just a marketing gimmick?
>>540628251the m14 is slow to reload and easy to fuck up reloading and its heavy. i doubt anyone here could keep it aimed while in the standing position for more than a minute. it does fire a better round though. the m16 is good enough for anything closer than 300 yards
>>540630935>2.5 moa>marksmans rifle
>>540625036Wow the M-14 bullet is bigger than an Ak-47 bullet. I wonder if they will sell the m-14's in gunshops?
>>540628029>The M14 is just the US version of the FAL and G3wildly incorrect
>>540625036I'm surprised there are any left after that massive faggot Clinton destroyed them all.
>>540625036For hunting poojeets
>>540628907based Gunsmith Cats enjoyer detected
>>540625036why not?
>>540630284get a 6.5 grendel it's the best meme AR
>>540634202>2.5 moaLol, some of them were 11moa. Lmao.
>>540628251The caliber was a mistake but weapons with wooden furniture are nigger tier garbage and fall apart in the jungle.
>>540633275
>>540628597The PSA will be cheaper, more accurate, more reliable, easier to mount scopes/accessories, and probably lighter weight unless you get the 20" heavy barrel.
>>540628119you can ebr it too though
>>540625036I'm buying one while I'm on deployment
>>540627782It's a battle-rifle.
>>540625036Any hunting rifle works as a sniper rifle. It’s pretty much the same idea.
>>540625036Kill yourself. >>540625036
>>540625036They might be trying to gain favor for the midterms. They are also placating Americans with a teasing ruling that might support getting rid of the National Firearms Act if I understand correctly. The national firearms act makes short-barreled rifles in suppressors items that have to be approved by the government.
>>540628575Growing up is realizing anime is all about white people Nobody in anime is Japanese because Japanese people are ugly, no eyelids, slanted eyes, yellow skinIf anime characters were Japanese looking nobody would watch it
>>540628406the m16a1 is a sexy beautiful long black bitch tooyou can't win the answer is not to play
>>540628251>tfw soldiers are trained to hit center of mass but you dont have a chest cavitySend him
>>540628251M14 was more suited for European combat and open plains against Soviets (much like the FAL in Rhodesia) M16 was more suited for close quarters urban/ jungle warfareBoth of these weren't bad rifles like uninformed normies tell you. One of was misused for the environment it was in and the other was a victim of government cheapskates cutting costs in ammo and cleaning kits
>>540628251M14 is the shortest lived Military service rifleToo heavy and limited compared to the AK
