>These models rely heavily on outputs from American frontier labs. >An open-weight model isn’t an open-source model.>Open-weight means that anyone can copy the product and use it, but the user has no visibility into how it was developed or whether it has been tuned to create secret security vulnerabilities. Open-source is where an end user can audit how the model was built and trained. The major Chinese models aren’t open-source.>She is right that open-weight models developed by adversaries shouldn’t be used in intelligence systems, military networks or critical infrastructure. They also should not be used with confidential commercial data. But these models rely heavily on outputs from U.S. frontier labs, which undermines the economics of these labs.>We can prevent the use of open-weight Chinese models by putting Chinese model providers who offer them onto the Entity List, and by disallowing U.S. companies from giving these models access to confidential data.>What will replace them? U.S.-sourced, safer, open-weight models, from American companies, that aren’t based on IP theft. https://archive.ph/skRyN
Yes, you should never use confidential data with any LLM, Chinese or otherwise. This is basic data sanitation we were teaching children before LLMs even existed.
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>>540635462I'd actually be interested to see what happens if they do block access to it. Even if the US could hypothetically make sure it was iron clad and that competing Chinese AI firms couldn't use outputs for distillation, I figure they'll probably still make the same model breakthroughs anyways. Seems like they're doing that an awful lot lately.
>>540635462>renowned>American>physicist>Hochberg>pilpul argumenthmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Will the US models be banned from distilling other models then?How do you even prevent distillation? The business case for LLMs is you want as many tokens used as possible because you're charging per token. More tokens = easier distillation.
>>540635462I'm going to keep using deepseek even harder. It's already a permanent pinned tab in my browser ever since it came out. FUCK all american AI, I'm never going to use american AI and I want it to die. I want china to win. Deepseek is free to use and china isn't lobotomizing their AI for kikes. I hope america loses.
>>540635462>just give your data to Mark Zuckerborg & S(c)am Altman insteadhttps://www.theregister.com/offbeat/2010/05/14/facebook-founder-called-trusting-users-dumb-fcks/294365" Zuck: People just submitted it.Zuck: I don't know why.Zuck: They "trust me"Zuck: Dumb fucks "
American tech is too retarded from trooning out en masse desu (the pajeet problem is secondary.)So if you believe in this sort of 'deterrence' you are fugged anyway.It's not deterrence btw, ballistics are more important as is being demonstrated. The ocean is hardly as large as it once was.NA will probably get bombed with great spite when it happens.
>>540635596What if it’s on a completely local box in a lead lined room with no networking
>>540635750I’m holding off to see if the 2027 ndaa passes with the horrendous Israel cooperation clause. If that passes a,Erica is officially over and legally a golem for Israel. At that point I’m throwing in the towel and become a CCP agent. Yeah, being white that probably won’t do me any good when the Great War breaks out, but do not underestimate my ability to cut off my nose in spite of my face
>>540635968You owe no loyalty to an economic zone. And the usa of all nations should understand that concepts like patriotism and treason are outdated and obsolete in our diverse globalist society.
>>540635462>U.S.-sourced, safer, open-weight models, from American companies, that aren’t based on IP theft.OHNONONONONONO MIGGERSISTERSWE GOT TOO COCKY
>>540635462>that aren’t based on IP theftThe government ignoring mass copyright infringement doesn't mean it's not happening. The chink model of stealing back already stolen data and giving it back to the public domain is 1000x more ethical. American AI companies can go get fucked and bankrupt
>>540636709The usage itself is embarrassing too. AI tards spamming 'Miyazaki style' gens etc. Every gen worse than the source for many many reasons.
Getting tired of scrolling past the same slur-spam and derail garbage every thread? You're not alone.A lot of people here clearly just want to think through what's happening, not just doomscroll it. Even that's rare thesedays.If you've been thinking about leaving because the signal-to-noise ratio has become unbearable, don't just vanish.Take the interesting people with you.You can keep complaining into the void, or you can move somewhere that still values actual conversation and discovery.If that sounds like what you're looking for: https://cloakbin.com/zrNEnMV3#OBnjyLuNyU-ATbzsONQR09rKkIZvpdTik70hrq0CIHcNo pressure. Just an option if you want somewhere quieter.The people who talked a big game about resistance quietly cashed out and left the rest of us holding the bag. What's left is mostly noise and people who just want to fight or exhaust you.Remember why you came here in the first place. Not to watch the same arguments repeat forever. Not to fight spam. You came here because you wanted to find things you couldn't find anywhere else.I felt the same way, couldn't find a place like that, so I made one.If you actually want to talk, learn, share information and explore ideas without everything being drowned out by noise, come overDon't fade into the noise.Don't let the noise chase you off the internet.Investigate. Ask questions. Make up your own theory. That's the whole point
>>540635462>that aren’t based on IP theft.Lol. LMAO.
>>540635462this is literally not what open source is, you can run any open source model on your b580 completely offline, there is literally no way data leaves your setup, anthropic is one injecting secret text watermarks and whatever spyware into their bullshit
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>>540635462>berg>”muh china”how about noseberg goes and fucks himself and you can help OP
>>540635462Translation from pilpul to normal speech:>If we let people use cheap/free Chinese models, then our AI companies won’t make as much money, and Sam Altman won’t become a trillionaire. We need to ban Chinese AI, because the point of America is to funnel wealth upwards from the working class to the ultra rich. AI CEOs are supposed to be able to charge you rent, and you’re trying to circumvent that you greedy meshuggah. Shame on you. Additionally, Chinese models do not have proper safeguards in place to stop antisemitism. Shut it down now.
>>540635462>US product not based on IP theftLol. Lmao even. Nice try NSA. I VILL use Chinese hardware and software instead of US backdoors any day.
>>540638853buy an ad
>>540636709When the host dies, the parasite either has to find a new host or it dies as well. The end result will be no more innovation and the existing tech will become stagnant and compromised, it's a certainty.
>>540639256It's not an ad. Is linking Twitter posts also ads then? Hiroshimoot is starting his political career. What does fresh politicians need? money. How will he afford cash? selling off assets. I'm doing this cause I know stuff and I know I will miss this place anon
>>540639375You think a guy who wants to enter politics would SELL OFF the extremely popular and influential media website of which he has complete control?Do you understand how fucking retarded you sound?
>>540639855He owns 2ch and niconico. He didn't really need 4chan unless it was going to be like Twitter competitor. I wouldn't even have engaged with you this far enough unless UK flags have been very good posters alwayshttps://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23803175/#23803175
>>540640066>He didn't really need 4chan unless it was going to be like Twitter competitor.What is this utter NONSENSE? Nothing you're imagining makes any sense what so ever. Do you think Elon would sell off X if he decided to run for office?Fuck off memeflag.
>>540635462the jewish rat fears china, so kill jews and feed the chinese ai
>>540640362You wanted TKD. Many will have to change up. Take care
>>540640595niggers are the biological flock camera jewish pigs use to look up "evidence" of the goy
>>540640674I hate racist like you but niggers fucked it up by being niggers and actually niggers hate niggers. Obama releases book and movie recommendations every year. Cleary Obama was just Monarchist spy hiding behind DEI moralism . America was never racist country. They didn't even want niggers in it. They wanted to pick their own cotton
>make tiktok sell itself so CCP can't push its agenda or steal your data>Put Zionist in charge, who pushes Israel's agenda, steals your data and curates videos to suit israel
