Bjarne Stroustrup has laughed off claims that AI can replace Software Engineers. Stroustrup argued that AI coding tools consistently generate more bugs, more bloat, and more security holes than they help eliminate — and that the resulting code is "nearly impossible to validate" in safety-critical contexts. https://caimpare.ai/articles/c-creator-bjarne-stroustrup-says-ai-generated-code-isn-t-ready-it-produces-more-bugs-more-bloat-more-security-holes
We don't care about Barney Troutsoup here, bro.
>>540657666>consistently generate more bugs, more bloat, and more security holes than they help eliminate>C++Ironic
>>540657666nice website retard
>>540657666She's rightAI slop can never replace premium human work material
>>540657819Here is another source. Stroustrup is laughing at AI shills.https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/bjarne-stroustrup-says-ai-generated-code-is-bloated-buggy-insecure/tldr
>>540657666He's incredibly talented no doubt about it but he's a relic
>>540658408and you are a pajeet
>>540657666>. Stroustrup argued that AI coding tools consistently generate more bugs, more bloat, and more security holes than they help eliminate >— and that the resulting code is "nearly impossible to validate" in safety-critical contexts.I agree. >>540657797Anon jees can't do C++ and they are writing code in the most jeet friendly langs, and the code is still buggy and full of giant security holes,.
>>540657666Luckily my software job is relatively safe from AI. However, I have a buddy whose company was halfway handed over to Indians, and the Indians are going absolutely crazy with the AI.He says it's a fucking nightmare. Commits that nobody has even reviewed, ultimately getting scanned by AI and approved by AI. Bloat, inefficiencies, nonsensical decisions, changes that make sense in the context of the task, but make no sense in the context of the project as a whole.AI has also been recommending they create microservices to handle certain tasks, so they'll take entire chunks of the application and attempt to rebuild their functionality as a service. But then the service won't have the data or context required within its own system to complete the task, so they have to come back over to the primary system and build APIs that the service now has to call to get the data it needs, so the logic becomes this tangled mass of REST calls where you used to just be able to do customer.getLastTransaction() from within the logic that needs it.And what's worse, the microservice is a new project, so nobody's going to a bunch of random separate services and monitoring code quality. There's no template for building new services, so they're all different. AI just generates a totally new service every time, and so config files, standard practices, etc, are all a little different.Then suddenly, they realize they CAN'T really do everything they need with services, so they will get lazy and connect to the central database that's supposed to be 'owned' by the central application. They'll bypass all the business logic and just do whatever read-writes they deem necessary, ignoring pre-existing rules and transformations, etc. So even the data itself becomes chaotic and arbitrary.I feel for him. He says that 95% of their code is written by AI now, and 80%+ is only ever reviewed by AI.Some Indian shitbag is trying to become CTO, so he wants to 'deliver' 10x faster than they ever did
>>540657666Witness those digits.What he's saying is true. I had a friend that entered computer binary code into missiles to keep it fast.
>>540657727kek
>>540659568The worst part is that the jeets are almost 100% remote, working from India. So they're all desperate to keep their jobs. In turn, they want to look like the most productive and most capable, so they just spam code into the repo to look efficient.They're gaming every metric they can to look good on paper. So if that means bypassing important rules, data models, etc, they'll just do it.>But that is the old application, this is new>Right, but you still have to apply the proper transformations to our data.>No, that is old system>Yes, but the old system is still running. You can't just write data to the database that doesn't conform to our requirements>This new system doesn't have those same rules>You're writing to the database of the old system, you're breaking our data policies>When I pull data over here, it works>Yes, but when we pull it over here, it's ill formatted>Then use new system>No, there are hundreds of tasks that still rely on the old system, and you're breaking all of them>Okay, I look into itThe most chilling thing is how they'll break everything else, but as long as their code works, they think it's someone else's job to fix all the things that broke. They were assigned a feature, they did what had to happen to deliver that feature. Sorry if other systems need to be updated to accommodate the 'new way'.
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>>540659568>>540660096They'll get fired, everytime tech jobs are offshored to India it ends up in failure
>>540657666if fucking indians could have replaced us then it was already over and that's why he's laughing.
>>540659054I remain convinced one of the reasons that American big tech is pushing Rust is because its easier for IndiansI hear its similar to Java and Indians love Java
>>540660303I agree. I've seen it happen many times. The question is how much of a mess they'll leave behind.His company seems to have gone all-in on some newfangled system that the top Indian has sold them. I've seen the slide decks, it's 100% mumbojumbo, but execs don't know that.And the fact that they're not building a parallel system, but attempting to slowly consume the original system's role is what's going to be a massive headache.They're actively destroying the functional application while they build the new one. It's going to be hell on earth to fix that shit. Especially since they'll definitely succeed at replacing a few parts, so you can't just tear down their 'microservice' architecture and throw it out. It's got deep tendrils into their legacy systems now.Oh well, if their company fails, it's because they trusted jeets. I've discovered they're scammers even in the software world. Everything they do is a disposable scam.
>>540660193would eatI love trout
>>540661403it looks pretty good
>>540657666Good , but this won’t get us a job , the issue isn’t the AI agents or anything the issue is the fake productivity of these companies and greediness of these so called CEO fags
>>540661745Why do you want a job?
>>540657666The point was never replacement, the point was stripping us of production because we're no longer needed in a society about banking.
>>540657666he's bad at prompting
>>540660552If you're dumb enough to get scammed by jeets then just how dumb are you?
>>540662148banking is nothingthe AI meme is just a griftand production is now decentralized
>>540657666Of course he does, C++ being so convoluted and overcomplicated with 1000+ pages standard would ruin any attempt to jeetify it.
>>540657666yeah my agent been running since 8am and is basically coding in python,rust,bash and powershell non-stop. i'm a proud pay-user with a perversely expensive subscription and an ai company but i think its worth every shekel i pay them. shit's dope. i couldn't code the amount it does in an hour in a month.
>>540657981>here is another source>newsbyteappThat sounds like a credible primary source all right.
>>540657666He's right, but the vast majority of SWE and programming jobs are not in actual critical domains
>>540659568I feel like AI is the equivalent to a chainsaw: you cut a lot faster, but a lot less precisely, and precision matters in software. It helps me a lot with mundane stuff like field mapping tables or auditing API keys or whatever. Maybe things you never spent enough time on before. And it’s good for finding bugs.But giving it to jeets is suicidal. It just compounds be jeet problem 100x.I love it. Lots of major corps are going to go bankrupt because of it.
>>540657981c++ was always hardcore neckbeards and social outcasts. i respect the strictness of the language but it has been largely superseeded by other one's like rust/java/c# and especially ts/py in infra. a good c++ dev was always someone weird that had problems getting laid and with personal hygiene. these modern languages show you can get pussy and dress adequatly in public without being a smelly autist.
>>540657666AI has read every single programming textbook there is. It has read every single article, every post, every publicly available line of code that exists online. It knows more than he does.
>>540662123What kind of a question is this ? I don’t wanna be a NEET loser
>>540662442> c++> knowsHahahaha
>>540657666there is the bun port to rust as a example to show how AI driven coding works I haven't checked it but it doesnt seem that bad. However a dev is supposed to know the code like the back of his hand if you have something that constantly changes idk if you can still develop the same expertise.
>hey Sol, validate this repo for me please
>>540657666who cares it makes my job easier
>>540657666>in safety-critical contextsyes but this is maybe 25% of coding market
>>540663567hey Daybreak, you know my operational environment, validate this new code make sure it doesnt introduce any vulnerabilities
>>540657666>article clearly AI>doesn't mention anything about him "laughing off" AIweird bot spam. What's the angle?
>C++slop DanetardOpinion disregarded. C++ is for autistic virgins. Real Chads have been writing everything that actually matters in COBOL for 70 years. You don't even need to know how to "code" you just tell the computer what you want it to do and it does it.
>>540662465NEETs are the winners.Are you are just a gullible and naive sucker.
>>540657666Doesn't matter because the people who own him and everyone else are only going to use ai
Any retard using the term "coding" in any other context than the final process of transferring a program into text is a retard at risk of being replaced by AIAnd no, Stroustrup didn't use the term
>>540657666>checkedit's kind of true. AI writes shitty code scopes. it can help you find bugs and teach you things, like a google search++ in a way. the worst thing AI does it promote garbage architecture.ultimately a simple question must be asked: what has AI built? if the reality is that people use AI as a pure text generator, then it's not good for a lot of things. even the mass produced AI slop ultimately goes through a human.
>>540662414>c++ was always hardcore neckbeards and social outcasts.no... it was pretty much the norm for most windows applications because c# was unoptimized as shit
>>540660552Is it an invoicing/billing/estimate/ordering software by any chance? Possibly related to construction? Because it sounds like exactly what's happening at the company I subcontract for
>>540662402I use it daily. I don't have it do full feature builds or anything, but I have it write functions and give me tips on various configuration changes, etc.I cannot imagine just letting it loose and accepting whatever it comes up with. I like my codebase too much. I've spent years tidying it up, making it clean and clear. I love working in my stuff.I cannot imagine a scenario where I trust AI to do more than write isolated pieces of code that I personally analyze before implementing.
>>540664561It isn't precisely that.There's a lot of invoicing, billing, estimates, ordering - which made me wonder at first. But it's for the automotive industry.Scary to think how common this is.
most of the world runs on computersmost computers run on softwaresmost softwares run on c++bjarne made c++denmark made bjarnemy country denmark owns the world.
>>540662442And it still can't write decent Lisp code. Ironically I think that's the only language programmers should focus on, besides being pretty based
>>540664705Yeah it's gotten so bad that I've been using billing invoicing software from 1999 that I've had on a CD that somehow hasn't been busted yet, and it worked on every windows version with no issues despite never getting updates
>>540660472They actually couldn't be more different. Rust is fine, but it's mostly relegated to tooling for Python and probably Java
>>540664705>it's for the automotive industry.Oh fuck it actually really might be the company I'm thinking of, as a new firm started buying up tons of small individual software companies that made good software dedicated to particular types of businesses in specific fields, and they're trying to merge like 20 different programs into one monstrous clusterfuck
>>540657666I look just like this and say shit just like this too
>>5406636992 month old news https://x.com/haider1/status/2056487493084799059
>>540657666AI does produce bad code, but I think he misses the point. I worked for fortune 500 comapnies and usually "incorrect" code getting shipped to production is the norm. We have a bunch of jeets pushing bad code to production daily. What's the difference if its AI pushing instead? It will probably actually be better.
>>540667444>If an AI writes it you don't actually know where it has changedVideo has a lot of weird cuts. Seems like a luddite troon cut it to make his say retarded shit without giving the context of what he was actually talking about.
>AI will never be able to do hands>1 month later AI can do handsI'd bet my hat that AI will do software programming and wipe out most of that profession very soon.
>>540670417AI still can't do hands though. Remember Netanyahu?
>>540665003>LispBased>>540663026>bun port to rustIirc they haven't merged any further commits to that and it seems a bit dodgyhttps://lockwood.dev/ai/2026/07/27/how-is-the-bun-rewrite-in-rust-going.html
>>540660472Rust is much, much harder than Java and it's way beyond the ability of 99.99999% of Indian programmers.
>>540657666More arrogant horseshit
>>540664751Industrial Automation: PLCs (Programmable Logic Controllers), control systems – use C99/C11 extensivelyAutomotive: embedded software, ADAS, motor control, infotainment – C99 and C++ are standardRobotics: robot controllers – typically C11 with real-time extensionsIndustrial IoT: C is the dominant language for edge devices and sensorsFirmware: ARM Cortex-M microcontrollers (widely used) – 90% of the code is in C99/C11
>>540657666checked.no AI ever called me a cracker
>>540657666Nice shitty AI slop article
