Germany already did lebensraum in WW1

>>540660255
Bunda

it was never confusing to anyone with ball knowledge.
>dude we kill everyone who is good with money instead of using them to make us more money
>woa like, what about this mythical race of...indo-iranians. they're like, the coolest
>like, let's take Nietzsche's words and twist them to jack ourselves off
>dude let's go to war with everyone
>wtf how are we losing?!

>>540660509
>Jews are good with money
Lelelleele

>bolsheviks based
No.

>>540660255
>If he actually tought rationally he would've let the Soviet Union into the axis
stfu russnigger

Narrow male pelvis. Many such cases.

>>540660255
I don't think hatred of Slavs was very insincere. It was just propaganda to galvanise the war effort for the most part.

But I agree. The lebensraum stuff was counterproductive. The goal should have been pan-Europeanism with German oversight. No need to go full autism.

>>540660926
*was very sincere

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>>540660255
None of this explains why Britain started World War Two

>>540660255
No, its because of anglos, zhe french elites and jewish bankers.

Hitler's grandfather was a Rothschild who raped his grandmother, the maid. Based on self hatred of his own jewish blood he was played as a useful idiot of the same family, The Rothschilds, to become the biggest villain in history and not only ensure Israel became a thing but also to permanently cuck the German people and all of Europe. This is how the jews were able to flood the EU with muslims, porn, and degeneracy of historic proportions.

All the information is out there for anons who care too look. Hitler was a retard, he was part jewish and knew it, he is the reason Germany and Europe as a whole have been destroyed. Even if you refuse to acknowledge the above you must admit, Hitler lost and as a result of his failure Europe was lost forever and just took 80+ years to die. There is nothing good or strong about Hitler, he failed and was almost surely a part jewish megalomaniac who let his own self hatred destroy his people(Germans) whom he claimed to love so much.If Hitler would have left the USSR alone he could have captured all mainland Europe with ease. He's a horrible tactician and a retard.

>inb4 the rabbis kvetch like a donkey on fire
get fucked jews, we know it was always you, every time

>>540660255
>But he was so blinded by a frankly ridiculous racial ideology, he honestly deserved to lose. Nowadays ive started to find the USSR and Stalin way more based than the germans. Stalin had largely rid the union of jewish influences by the 1930s and was very antisemitic, homophobic and racist personally. He toned down internationalism for a more National Russian communism.
He also orchestrated the single biggest leap forward in human history going from the most miserable country of Europe to the 2nd industrial powerhouse in 10 to 13 years or two 5 year plans.

>>540661347
and then pissed it all away.

Hitler made Poland redeemable

A lot of men in their primes died, overall figures ranged but for sure they caused a lot of problems that led to current over reliance on immigration.

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>>540660509
>jews are just these magical beings that just magically make money appear out of thin air

>>540660255
he tuccing good

>>540660255
jewish post burn it with fire

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>>540661196
>Perverted schizophrenic nonsense

As he predicted

>>540660255
>we had no choice goyim!
>we HAD to import millions of migrants!
>this is actually YOUR fault
God I'm tired of jews

>>540661426
Not him but the aparachik gang that couped over power after his death and namely, the biggest culprit: Leonid Brejnev. Where Stalin was seeing red 24/7 and very sensitive to the necessity to reach parity with all foreign powers, the Brejnev gang believed that communism was already achieved, that they didn't need to struggle anymore, and that they could slack off.
Worker absenteeism rates at factories were through the roof, corruption was tolerated at every level of the party and to give you an anecdote, the Central Statistical Administration did everything to sabotage the implementation of an All-State Automated System digitized brain network because they saw it as a threat to their administration.

A very counter-intuitive argument i make is that the proper Stalin successor was the guy that was assassinated by the Brejnev / Khruschev gang, namely, Lavrentyi Beria. Yes, the political police pedophile monster.

>>540660255
I don't think you can feasibly fit a 7lb babby in this

>>540661766
Beria believed he was to be Stalin's successor and gloated over the dying Stalin as he lay ill on the floor. Beria was human scum, I see why 4chan would like him. The best solution to the Communist party would have been a full erasure under a German occupation. After all, a clan of jews tried unsuccessfully to do that in Germany years prior with the Soviet State of Bavaria forced takeover of Bavaria.

>>540660255
not reading all of that shit you turkic shitskin

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>>540660255
So basically if Hitler had won we wouldn't have any of this?

>>540660255
Dimitrios is not wrong

>>540662331
Homosexuality was normalized in Greece and they're a race of chaos and stupidity. I've never seen a single good Greek poster on this board, they're slightly more intelligent than Mexicans.

>>540660255
You are a failed experiment and you will be eaten alive

>>540662577
Correct

>>540660255
>Hitler is indirectly the cause of the problems Europe faces today
And Churchill is much more directly the cause of the problems facing Europe today.
>He was insanely incompetent when fighting a war that the future of European civilization depended on.
He was fundamentally wrong on a huge number of topics, not just things like economics, military strategy, and biology, but also much more fundamental things like epistemology. He was the sort of person who elevated abstractions to a higher status than the real things which those abstractions were supposed to describe.
>His frankly ridiculous racial theories about slavs and lebensraum led him to commit his biggest and dumbest mistake-which was invading ths soviet union.
It was more complicated than that, but they definitely didn't help. If they hadn't been retards in their occupied territories they could have relied on hundreds of thousands of people who were grateful to be liberated from the Soviets to flood their ranks.
>If he actually tought rationally he would've let the Soviet Union into the axis and destroyed the United States and United Kingdom
Not a practical option. The Soviet Union at the time had a genuine desire to convert the entire world to communism. Even if Hitler hadn't been retarded, it wouldn't have worked out.
>Stalin had largely rid the union of jewish influences by the 1930s and was very antisemitic, homophobic and racist personally. He toned down internationalism for a more National Russian communism.
He toned down to communist retardation from 11 to 10. That doesn't mean he was based, he just eventually realized that most of the communist program was completely impossible. You can't literally abolish the concept of money, a system of prices is the only way to allocate resources. He didn't tone down the internationalism, it's just that when he kicked out Trotsky the comintern apparatus fell apart. Stalin then switched to using more military means to spread communism.

¿qué más?

>>540660255
you dont even need all that, just the fact he ended a MASSIVE amount of alpha heroic white lineages was enough to fuck europe up forever. I tie the continents inability to push back against invasion as entirely and solely the consequence of bleeding all of your strong men away in a pointless war, looong after whites were supposed to be doing that shit. past 1890 of you are starting wars with another white country, you are literally just hurting the future of humanity

>>540662141
I study history with detatchment, you're enamored with propaganda, ideology and memory. Khruschev was an idiot who tried to grow wheat in siberia as a mean to revigorate the economy, Brejnev was a nihilist who let everything rot.

Beria may have been scum, but so are most of the figures of history i discovered, most of which you idolize. The question is whether he was a capable stateman and the answer is a resounding yes. Beria was the one who managed most of the soviet union's industrial and scientific megaprojects including but not limited to the project to get the bomb, and that involves everything from mobilizing scientists, acting as a project manager or managing the spy network to collect useful intel.
He famously built special cities for scientists, researchers and their families with a very lose jurisdiction and extended levels of freedom.

During his brief days long tenure as Stalin's concensus successor, he pushed for a massive gulag amnesty, banned the use of torture and tried to implement multiple liberal reforms which gave a motive for the Khruschev gang to kill him and label him as subversive actor. Beria also was arguably a better international strategist than Stalin, and certainly better than any other soviet leader other than Stalin. His answer to NATO was brilliant in my opinion. He planned to just give away east germany, as simple as that. But on the condition that east and west germany reunite and make an eternal pledge of neutrality toward east and west, thus granting the germans what they wished and dismantling the very purpose of NATO and what it was sold to fight at once. Not only that, but there would be no divorce with China because there would be no destalinization if he were to rule, thus making the USSR far better integrated with the world, more liberal yet still totalitarian in ways that mirror today's china, and completely obsessed with tech tree advancement and scientific parity.

>>540662789
>military strategy
He should have used the American strategy of 'let the communists when while endlessly quagmiring yourself in the Middle East'. Worked out great for us!
>economics
If only he had propped up his entire economy on a jewish ponzi scheme like we did. What a fool he was!
>wrong on biology
Pretty sure he wasnt the one saying men are women; you people do

>>540662577
>>540662667

shalom

>>540662993
>Beria was the only competent one left because they killed everyone else
>their best option was a paranoid sadistic pedophile
How anyone can seriously adopt a meme ideology like communism is truly a fucking mystery to me

>>540660509
Having a strong cultural heritage of defacing and printing currencies does not make one good with money.

>indirectly
Ignoring climate change warnings from 30 years ago is directly the cause of migration problems worldwide.

>>540660255
The mass killing by gas chambers against European Jews a major error.

>>540663099
Toothpaste nigga

>>540660255
Hitler is the solution to many problems Europe faces today

>>540660255
A WOMAN? quick, document this strange creature. I won't ever get the chance to see this again or jerk off online to the millions of other whores.

>>540663171
>How anyone can seriously adopt a meme ideology like communism is truly a fucking mystery to me
I am not anywhere close to being a communist.
>Beria was the only competent one left because they killed everyone else
Beria was by all means a genius statesman and could've yielded greater result as a head of state than Stalin or any other Russian leader. And might i add, of any Russian era. The Tsarist times were comparably significantly worse than the worst stage of stalinism which makes your "killed all competent people" point kind of loose.
>their best option was a paranoid sadistic pedophile
A pedophile with a belief that the end justifies the means. Rather than being sadistic, he was psychopathic. Your civilization has this ability to romanticize this type of figures and idolize them when they're a part of it and act horrified when they're external to it. Was Beria an evil man? Yes, so was Stalin, so was Hitler, so was Churchill. Was he the biggest what if of soviet history? Again, yes. He was far better armed to face the west and muster soviet human resources than any other soviet figure including Andropov.

>>540662993
He was a serial killer and serial rapist of Russian girls. The whole lot of them (Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov, Yurovsky, Stalin, Yagoda, Beria, Kaganovich) were a million times worse and more disgusting than the Nazis. All of them should have faced violent deaths.

>>540660255
Maybe the Turks were right about you ''people''

>>540663689
You're from Morocco nigga, your country is stuck in the stone ages

>>540661466
>A lot of men in their primes died

source?

>>540663777
From my POV, Hitler, Himmler, Churchill or even Jules Ferry are all equally as evil as Beria, but in different ways. I don't held in high regard either of the leaders of your nation as well from a moral standpoint. Beria was a psychopathic pedophile. I am assessing his qualities as a statesman, relative to Andropov, Chernenko, Brejnev, Khruschev and even Stalin. You seem completely unable to consider the matter. As if brilliance was a byproduct of being "good". And as if history's highlights were largely good people.

>>540661466
wrong
sweden wasnt even part of the war and they have more migrants than anyone

It doesn't work that way. He tried to make peace plenty of times with all these other shithole countries before and after 1938, despite knowing their leadership was most likely bought or corrupt already. Then he said that if Germany loses, then these currently happening things will happen. The only argument you could make was that he was chosen to play a role where he loses, then sure.

Otherwise it's like saying if people break into your home and you predict they will kill your family if you lose and you die fighting, then someone says you killed your family.

>>540663948
I accept your concession and apologize for hurting your ego.

>>540661466
Even wars and famines which could kill 1/3 of the population were not as bad of a problem back in the days before contraception pills, because people would still be having plenty of kids anyway so while no one was happy about it, it would balance out fairly quickly.

>>540661196
>Hitler's grandfather was a Rothschild who raped his grandmother, the maid
source: jews told me so

>>540661196
So if uk destroyed evil hitler and won the war, then why did they destroy their whole population later on just to own hitler more?

>>540660583
Hitler didn't just kill Jews, he also burned books about economics, and not just Marxist ones or ones written by Jews. Hitler genuinely thought that the will of the German race would allow him to overcome little problems like "knowing the correct amount of resources to allocate to a given task". Given the chronic logistical issues the Wehrmacht faced during the war, I think it's fair to say that willpower cannot replace economics and logistics.
>>540663057
>If you don't like Hitler you must be some neocon retard
How about no. As a matter of fact most countries throughout the west tend to adhere to Hitler's economic ideas far more than they do to capitalist ideas. The greatest economic thinkers in history, like Carl Menger and Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk were Austrians, not Jews. If Hitler had put someone like Ludwig Erhard in charge of the economy of the Reich the German military's constant supply problems would have been reduced.
>Pretty sure he wasnt the one saying men are women; you people do
Firstly, I am not a lefty and I don't think men are women or vice versa. Secondly, Hitler believed a host of absolutely retarded shit about biology, like Lamarckism. He wasn't a very deep reader and just believed anything he heard if it sounded like it supported his existing beliefs. Given his epistemological beliefs, he actually might have supported trannyism if he was alive today, his epistemological beliefs were actually quite similar to what supporters of tranny stuff believe, in that he believed that people could overcome biology through acts of will.

>>540664076
>Otherwise it's like saying if people break into your home and you predict they will kill your family if you lose and you die fighting, then someone says you killed your family.
He lost because he attacked the USSR in a war of annihilation where his enemies weren't even granted a way out through acceptable terms of surrender, creating a situation worse than the Versailles diktat for the Russians who were told "eat or you will be eaten". Within 3 years of his invasion, the Soviets were at the gates of Berlin about to rape and kill while Hitler was ending his life in a bunker.

If his lifelong mission was "protecting the home against the invader" as you claim,and here, by invader you mean jewish infiltrators, he should've done that and dealt with the Anglos, or at least, finished the UK before trying to deal with the USSR to the east.

>>540660255
Have you ever been with a girl and then the next morning realized she knew she was gonna go out and get fucked that night and you just happen to be the dude? Yuck.

>>540660255
I've seen posts like these so many fucking times and their thesis always boils down to how everything wrong about society stems from the fact that Hitler lost which is logically more of a massive indictment against anti-Nazism than anything.
Additionally the fact that you went on a tangent to shill nazbol syncretism reveals the actual reason why you made this post. You're a swarthy agent of mediocrity that feels attacked by the exclusionist principles of racism because it implies that you wouldn't be there to subsist off the fruits of a homogeneous Germanic continent had he won as you're used to this petty falsehood that people who are genetically superior to you must prostrate themselves for the sake of your own existence. Because once your kind becomes left to their own devices the nations they build instantly devolve into unstable backwaters that require trust pacts with other countries to stay afloat.

>>540664586
haha, women are a treasure

>>540664419
>he should've done that and dealt with the Anglos
He did try. He sent envoys to the British and offered to completely leave them alone if they left him alone. He would have preferred to ally with the British, who he greatly admired, but he knew their leadership strongly opposed it. They said no to even the very favorable offer of "if you let us develop a sphere of influence in eastern Europe we will assist you in defending your colonies abroad" and doubled down on supporting the Soviets. Given that Britain ended up losing their empire as a consequence of the war, the British were fucking stupid to decline that offer.
>or at least, finished the UK before trying to deal with the USSR to the east.
That would have been the wise course of action. Also he shouldn't have let the British escape at Dunkirk.

>>540664614
This. They have to utterly flip causation. You can't be blamed for things that happen after a war if you lose the war. Why would anyone try to win wars if the loser gets to decide what happens after? It's super stupid b8 for midwits

>>540664419
He obviously made mistakes because if he didn't make any then why did he lose. Your take is pretty good, I'll add mine in
1) do like stalin and let none of your enemies flee the country after 1933 if it's in anyway possible to keep them in, no diplomacy bullshit and letting them regroup
2) just wreck uk and their pedo elites (who are not aligned with hitler, it was 50/50 iirc) the first chance you get
3) just stall things with soviet union, because even if they eventually attack, germany should do well in a defensive war just depleting their resources if they nearly won an offensive war

That leaves usa and muh atom bomb which supposedly exists. So use the geniuses you didn't let leave the country as slave labor to develop better bombs for germany or you kill their family.

>>540664826
Jeet causation. Cliffnotes version of western history, gallons of D&C, and then stitch the whole thing together with simian brain logic

>>540660255
>>540660509
>>540661196
malicious disinfo shills like these deserve to be publicly executed.

>>540660509
oof

>>540660255
I would love to blame it on Hitler just as much as the next guy but the source of all problems is actually socialism. Gaberments - instead of purely meritocratic market competition - "taking care" about the wellbeing of the people.
You have the same shitshow in "racially pure" and "non -degenerate" societies as well, like Japan. On the other hand, Europe and the US were thriving despite being extremely heterogenic _before_ widespread adoption of socialist policies.

>>540664127
have sex lol

>>540664749
Here's my perspective about Nazis, they're lunatics. Completely detached from reality and fleeing forward. Hjalmar Schacht gave them a ponzi scheme to get the money required to build an army and economy then they entered a vicious circle of conquests and repayments.

There was not a single point where they didn't feel trapped by something,and rightfully so. And their answer to each trap was an even bigger gamble. Some succeeded, others failed. The ardennes gamble in France succeeded. Barbarossa failed.

The Nazis believed their and the anglos own astroturfed lies about the USSR in ways that mirror how some westerners still believe some ludicrous things about China that belong to the 90s. He based everything off this wrong intel and tried to invade a sleeping winter giant without even preparing winter clothing for his men. This is how easy they thought it was gonna be.

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>>540660255
>it's Hitler's fault for revolting not good enough against the Anglo and Yank powered kike world order

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>>540665143
ah yes the anglos that supported the soviets, you mean?

>>540665143
Hitler was a saint by comparison to Lenin or Stalin, both of whom committed ethnic and religious genocides against their own people precisely because they were not wanted. Germany democratically elected Hitler and the Nazis, whereas Lenin took Russia by force through war, rape, famine, and genocide. You can go kys shit skin retard.

>>540665035
>have sex lol
I do. This conversation started around the figure of Beria. You decided, out of nowhere, to divert it toward Morocco, then my sexuality. Two unrelated topics. Why is that? Did i irritate you? Why? My intention wasn't to make you mad.

>>540660509
this post triggered a lot of neo-nazis

>>540660255

why do women dress like that if they don't wanna be fucked?
thats the most whoreish outfit ever

>>540665002
>>540665440
>jews

>>540660509
Why did allies do iq tests on nazi leaders and they were almost all +130iq so are you implying nazi spergs could have not developed a financial system which did not depend on 95% of the population being "too stupid" to realize hard drugs and child prostitution and loan sharking makes money.

>>540660255
so does she always hold her phone? she walks around with a phone tied to one hand?

>>540665376
Don't make me mad again. Good boy

>>540665498
She's literally in her fucking underwear. Even if I had the courage to walk outside barely dressed I absolutely wouldn't.

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>1pbtid
>greek flag
another hitlerbashing psyop spammer
read pic related. von leers will tell you how the soviets and the americans were planning for an attack on germany years before germany invaded poland. it's all right there. If anything, Germany should have invaded sooner, but they didn't have enough military to do that.

>>540665352
I hear your words, but they're the product of your wishful thinking, nothing about them is substantiated. They fit your narrative and thus you're emotionally engaged in selling them.

In reality, Hitler was a lunatic who nearly caused the erasure of his country. A gambler who didn't know how or where to stop, moved by dreams of greatness. He committed unspeakable acts just like Stalin, but so did Churchill, Einsenhower, Netanyahu or Gengis Khan.
What's irritating with him is how ungrounded he is. He really believed that he could send an army to conquer the soviet union in 3 months, and was so confident that it would work that he didn't even give them winter clothing.

Everything about his intel was wrong from the state of the economy, the quality of the officers, the number of divisions (thought to be half of what it actually was), number of tanks believed to be 8000 rather than the 25000 to 30000 soviets had the quality of soviet industry, it's capacity or relocation potential.

Of all people in human history, you idiots decided to raise as your idol this man? Why not Bismark? He was tenfolds the genius Hitler was.

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>>540661043
Britain is part of the globohomo axis of evil (infer and deduce this from all available knowledge).

They aim to kill and exterminate white people. naturally Britain started WW2 to get more white people killed.

Post fact with hindsight of what Britain is transforming into now and how there is hardly any opposition the only conclusion you can make is that it was always their goal to have white nations embroiled in massive wars.

>>540665641
You're still noticeably frustrated. Why is that? It makes no sense, i didn't insult you after all. We were arguing about Stalin's succession and then you suddenly started crying out loud.

>>540665756
this is postede is a russian
if anythign his attack on the soviets turend out to be evbn more justified
because the soviets had amassed a massive army at the german border, far larger than he realized
the war was a preventive war

>>540665863
*poster

>>540665143
>Here's my perspective about Nazis, they're lunatics. Completely detached from reality and fleeing forward.
That's a decent assessment.
>Hjalmar Schacht gave them a ponzi scheme to get the money required to build an army and economy then they entered a vicious circle of conquests and repayments.
They actually didn't ever even try to pay off their debts. I think you might be overly influenced by Keynes's ideas on the topic which have become the prevailing narrative, but which aren't correct. Keynes was wrong about pretty much everything he ever said in his entire life.
>The Nazis believed their and the anglos own astroturfed lies about the USSR
True, but the communists were also lunatics. The Nazis had good reasons to fear the Soviets even if they also had a lot of really dumb ones. The Nazi movement had also emerged from street fighting with Soviet backed communist gangs in Germany, so they had bad blood from the start. The Soviet system was completely economically nonviable in the long term, and they had good reasons to not want that forced on them at the barrel of a gun. The fact that the Nazi system was also awful didn't change the fact that they had good reasons to fear the Soviets.
>in ways that mirror how some westerners still believe some ludicrous things about China that belong to the 90s.
A lot of those things about China weren't even true in the 90s. I put a lot of blame on those Falun Gong wackos.

>>540663689
>pedophile apologist
>see everyone is evil its ok to rape kids
>lumps in Hitler, who tried to stop them
Nah

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>>540661196
Yes this is absolute true.

Hitler whether he fully realized it or not was merely a useful globohomo patsy.

And if he didn’t come to power and all the subsequent events modern day Europe would have 100 million more white caucasians and would be drastically different and not this antichrist multikulti globohomo anti white shithole.

Don’t worry antichrist globohomo, we got AI and LLMs that we are scaling up right now. We will use that and quantum computing plus advanced genetic engineering techniques to undo all the damage and pollutant dna you’ve tried to introduce into the European genetics and cleanse Europe of your filth.

We will make both western and Eastern Europe pure and white as snow again.

>>540660255
>indirectly

>>540665863
rani mghribi a l3ab9aryi

I'm Moroccan, genius
I could obsess over Germany or make alternative scenarios with Donitz being granted the subs he asked for to blockade the UK or Goering being less retarded and building 4 engine bombers rather than stating they won't be needed only to find himself unable to reach the furthest British airbases.

I could also switch the topic to the Turkish side of the 1st world war or their war of independence, i just sperg on some topics. The fact i'm currently discussing the soviet union doesn't make me russian.

You're talking to a moroccan.

>>540665898
>Keynes was wrong about pretty much everything he ever said in his entire life.
Would you be willing to elaborate?

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>>540665756
Hitler hated the Russians and only entered the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty through countless attempts to structure an alliance with Britain, which was rebuffed and rejected. Hitler offered Britain peace, and instead Britain declared war.

We honor Hitler for his efforts, not some illusion of perfection. Stalin was murdering his best military men out of his deep paranoia at the time Hitler was trying to bring peace and stability to Europe and to save both Britain and Germany from jewish poisons like communism and globalism.

Hitler was right. Britain forever damned itself to hell for choosing war at the behest of jews and are responsible for 80 million Europeans dying from that war, and the feckless servitude they've been defeated into ever since.

>>540666210
sure you are
thats why all of your posts describe it as if the west wasnt supporting the soviet union
and also dont mention how the soviets were a massing a massive army at the german border
only russians do that

>>540665860
This is 4chan not the debate club. Relax

>>540664168
5 kids was standard back then, and it was going well until the millennium

Then it dropped to about 1.7

and now we need Europeans to have 3 to not be dominated by immigrants in 50 years

5 would be nice but barely any adults can house and feed 5 kids and have any kind of life. 3 is the number we need to hit for native births.

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>>540660255
Hitler lost because he was a terrible politician and an even worse diplomat. He was in a nearly perfect position in 1937 where all he had to do was not antagonize Britain and France and he could have brought them to his side in a war against the USSR.

However, the main problem lies with the ideology itself - Nazism simply does not work in the mid to long run. It may help you clumsily scare a discouraged nation into rallying around the flag, but ultimately it has nothing tangible to offer and eventually plants the seed of the country's (and its own) demise. At its core Nazism is not about love for its own people, as it claims, but rather about fear and hatred for outsiders - and this is very much by design, this irrational dread of a vague omnipresent outside enemy, be it Bolshevism, Jews, Capitalists etc., makes sure the population does not start questioning the dictatorship and its tyrannical rule. However, this also has a downside - the state cannot justify its existence without an external threat, whereas the regime's very existence depends on constantly seeking out enemies both inside itself and beyond its borders. When the "inside enemies" had been dealt with, Nazism turns outwards to look for a reason to exist there. Naturally, in the eyes of others it becomes a rogue state which cannot continue functioning without wars and expansion, meaning it has to be put down one way or another. Britain was until the very end hopeful this was not the case, but after Czechia it became clear the Reich was impossible to appease. Which is also precisely why they rejected all Hitler's peace offers - even if they had accepted them, this would just have given the Reich some room to breath, conquer more land, build an even bigger war machine and eventually come back for another round with them. They realized the Reich by design could not afford to be peaceful and made the right decision to put it down, even if at a high price.

>>540660255
What you're doing right now is the equivalent of if a man fired a gun at you, then a second man dived in front of that bullet in an attempt to save you, and the bullet passed through him and hit you. What you're doing is the same as saying "THIS WAS ALL THAT GUY WHO JUMP IN FROM OF ME'S FAULT" while ignoring the one who fired the bullet. EVERY single problem we're facing today was already being planned and implemented by jews years before Hitler's birth.

>>540660255
>letting communists win
Shut up, retard. Execution was his only problem.

>>540666443
these deranged posts coming from a russian
while they conquer and murder their "brothers" in Ukraine

People that make OP's argument are like guys in a prison blaming the one guy who tried to break out decades ago for their problems.

Kike disinfo thread

>>540666584
Its a tranny posting under a russian VPN. Theyve been avatarfagging for years.

>>540666033
>I blame the man that implemented policies I mostly agree with for the things the international clique did after they ganged up on him

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>>540660255
Yes, stopping him evolved to us dressing like sluts and whores. We should have let him steamroll us and fuck us in the ass so we would not have this much degeneracy

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>>540666443
>this irrational dread of a vague omnipresent outside enemy, be it Bolshevism, Jews, Capitalists etc.,
Jewish communists stages numerous insurrections and attempts at revolution to drive Germany under the control of the Soviet Union. You're spouting shit from your fingers. It wasn't a vague threat created by grifters, it was the reality of a daily war that lasted 5 years in Germany following the horrific defeat of Germany in World War One and the disastrous Treaty of Versailles which placed German citizens into financial slavery to French bankers, also jews. The French further humiliated Germans by bringing in 200,000 black African men, and forcing them to live in the Rhineland.

Your post is deluded drugged confusion not reflective of history.

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>>540666289
>Would you be willing to elaborate?
I'd mostly just be copying from "Keynes the Man" by Rothbard. Basically Keynes was a habitual liar who just made shit up as he went along to serve whatever goal he was trying to achieve at the time. In the case we're currently talking about, he claimed that the reason for hyperinflation in Wiemar Germany was caused by the need to repay the debts imposed by the treaty of Versailles, but the truth is that no German government ever made a serious attempt to pay them. On economics he thought that recessions were caused by investors somehow all just losing their nerve at the same time, rather than by malinvestment in the economy, he thought that supply can be abstracted out of economic models because supply supposedly will always rise to meet demand, and he reviewed books about economics in German, claimed they said nothing new on the topic, and then later admitted he only knew enough German to read things he already understood. The guy was just generally a complete asshat.
https://cdn.mises.org/Keynes%20the%20Man_2.pdf

>>540666994
lolberts dont talk about banks and money creation by banks and how that causes most of the issues in capitalism
lolberts are jewish golems

>>540666994
The deutschmark was so ruined that the French took German resources instead, lumber, food, anything they could steal. They made Germans slaves in their own country. Hitler never forgot about this humiliation.

>>540667121
They're deluded fantasy dwellers that refuse to speak in terms of pragmatic realism, preferring their theories instead

>>540666435
Well there were some 3 million finnish people vs 150 million soviets in ww2 and we didn't have 25 kids per woman to just outbreed enemy troops.

>>540667121
>lolberts dont talk about banks and money creation by banks and how that causes most of the issues in capitalism
What the fuck are you talking about? That's pretty much all we talk about. I was pretty proud I managed to go that whole post without sperging out about it aside from mentioning malinvestments (which are a product of inflation) and the fact that Keynes *didn't* attribute them to fractional reserve banking and fiat currency.
>>540667183
Yes, that is the Keynesian narrative. It's also wrong.

>>540666443
>if only he spoke with britain and france and then they would have become allies
>external enemies were just right-wing propaganda and not real enemies
ok

>>540667302
>Weimar didn't exist according to Keynes
No idea what you're trying to say

>>540660255
juden ?

>>540660255
>this may confuse you,
Hey newfag. Heard this a million times. You’re retarded, didn’t read.

>>540667302
no
lolberts only talk about the state keeping the poor capitalists doww
they never talk about banks fuckign everyone over
because jews control the banks

>>540666350
I'm not gonna further try to convince you that i, in fact, am a Moroccan who speaks Moroccan Darija, a dialect still not properly understood by AI for generation so i can write my gibberish for you to fact check or you could give me whatever slop you're fed by claude or gemini and i'll correct everything inaccurate about it. If that's not enough for you, it's more that you need me to be Russian, not that you believe i have to be.

>thats why all of your posts describe it as if the west wasnt supporting the soviet union
And by the west, you mean the US, and by the US, you mean the US by 1942.

First, your point isn't relevant to what i said, that your intel terrible before the start of the war. Your count of divisions was wrong, your count of tanks before the start was wrong, your assessment of the state of their industry was ridiculously wrong so was your assessment of the capability of their officers.

Secondly, your operations objectives were already gone after you failure in the battle of Moscow which preceded any substantial lend lease contribution. Even in Stalingrad, US contributions weren't a gamechanger: 85% of all US supplies to the USSR arrived after the beginning of 1943. Where the US lend lease was foundational is in the counter offensive where the soviets lacked the transport equipment and resources to push toward Berlin.


You failed because your wishful thinking blinded you of the actual capabilities of your enemies and because you relied on wrong intel.

>>540667121
Where I live they actually do talk about central banks and stuff, but they pretend to be race blind and some of them are full on lgbt pedos despite having correct economical takes.

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>>540667657
they talk abotu central banks, but not about the banks themselves
the banks create money from nothign and can effectively buy up anythign they like
that is the dirty secret of capitalism

>>540667554
of course youre a russians
youre still pretending not understandign anythign I said
while the intel was wrong, reality was even worse and justified the case for the attack on the soviets even more
they had a massive army on the german border in offensive postition
thats why the germans captured millions of soviet soldiers in the first months of the war
and that you try to deny the massive western support from the british and the americans, including bombing of german industry, opening multiple fronts and supplying the soviets with masive amounts of food and military equipment also exposes you as a russian

>>540667763
That was included in the central banking but they of course would not say that it's the jews but they say everything else. It just doesn't matter if they state banks create money from nothing and states use the money they tax on bullshit. Doesn't matter.

>>540667554
This is why we're bringing up your flag, because Morocco is a literal slave state based on Islam and a religious theocratic shithole lol. Who are you to say Germany failed to win a war that Britain started?

>>540660255
yeah its why i dont understand neo nazis. hitlers failure has ruined white identity, white unity, with millions of europes strongest and best men who were ACTUALLY killed, meanwhile the one (((thing))) he is most associated with barely impacted their population. how could you be so race-specific to disqualify slavs as white, yet allow jews into ur own agency? the years following ww2 were basically the best case scenario for jews. its why i am suspect on hitlers roots. regardless, the future of white people cannot be associated with nazism, it is far too tainted, and is eternally marked by failure. do the same thing but better and rebranded, cannot be so obvious. maybe do a sly foreskin check disguised as medical check.
>>540661196
i would like to believe this but the proof is basically non existent. i have only seen the rumours of hitler living in rothschild funded housing.

>>540667988
Stalin was going to invade Germany sooner or later and was in talks with the Brits setting up the plan to sabotage. German intel was top notch at that time and not wrong in it's assessment.

>>540660255

he was just doing his best, given the circumstances

>>540660255
Hiplets need to stop trying to show off their androgynous bodies

>>540668109
>Germans are responsible for what the British did
My god you all are so stupid. The IQ deficit is unbearable to deal with.

>>540666926
The last major attempt of a socialist revolution in Germany happened in 1918 and was swiftly put down in 1919. 14 years before Hitler came to power. Germany in 1933, let alone in 1939 was under no threat of any kind of communist uprising, that was merely a boogeyman, put forward by the Reich to make sure German people would be terrified of some imaginary enemy that was constantly trying to get them. This is a common tactic of dictatorships – there is always some kind of enemy, which only the regime can defend people from, although they have to accept draconian measures and full serfdom to the state to make sure it does not get the upper hand. For Hitler this boogeyman were Jews and Bolshevism – it was convenient, since he could attribute all kinds of vices to them without actually having to prove anything or even tell what this Bolshevism even is. Instead, a mere mention of it in connotation to anything already made sure people were in terror and ready to become Hitler’s personal slaves just so that he could stop it from coming, even if that was a fundamentally irrational and emotionally-driven decision.

>>540665440
neo-Nazis and modern day fascists are just common reactionaries. No value in listening to them at all.
I am currently reading Giovani Gentile's writings and I can say that he is a lot more insteresting as a philosopher than all modern neonazis combined. I have a hunch that all of them would hate Gentile if they actually met him.

>>540668486
> tell what this Bolshevism even is
please enlight us, Ivan

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>>540666926
The only thing that communists and Germany have in common is that the communists in Russia did everything they could to help Germany and prop up Hitler's regime.
And that the communists saved the entire volga German population from gulags prepared by the Tsar
And that the Germans sent Lenin in a sealed train to Russia.

Hmmmmm

>>540668600
It is the Russian world for "majority". So "bolshevism" just means rule of majority or perhaps tyranny of majority.
Which is why it is stupid to be against "bolshevism" because any popular leader is a bolshevik by definition.
If you are against communism just say that

>>540668762
thats not an explanation of what bolshevism is, you retarded russian

>>540668817
It is exactly an explanation. Bolshevism is the tyranny of majority. Whether the self-described bolsheviks actually were the majority is a different story, but by definition that is what this is.

>>540667440
>No idea what you're trying to say
Given what your greentext implies you think I said, it is understandable that it doesn't make sense. The narrative you described was Keynes's narrative, it also wasn't true. The Wiemar hyperinflation couldn't have been caused by attempts to pay the reparations imposed under the Versailles treaty because no serious attempt to pay them off was ever made. The truth is that the Wiemar government had very bad monetary policies.
>>540667530
>lolberts only talk about the state keeping the poor capitalists doww
If by lolberts you mean the reason magazine/cato institute types, they're what we tend to call "regime libertarians". They don't really care about liberty, they just want the government to oppress us in less wasteful ways. If you mean actual libertarians, just read what the Mises institute puts out on any given day. Both articles they put out today attribute our economic woes to monetary expansion. In fact looking at the last week of articles I don't think a single one doesn't call out the role of inflation and central banking in fucking with capitalism.
>they never talk about banks fuckign everyone over
No, we definitely talk about needing a return to the gold standard and abolishing the banking cartel pretty much constantly. Don't you remember Ron Paul and his supporters constantly talking about ending or at least auditing the fed? Sound money, property rights, and anti-interventionist foreign policy are the three legs of the libertarian position.
https://cdn.mises.org/files/2024-08/What%20Has%20Government%20Done%20to%20Our%20Money%202024.pdf

>>540668408
how stupid do you think hitler was? you think he had no idea that losing the war would have no repercussions for the white race, or at least germany? hitler went all in. do you just believe all the (((textbooks)))? are you low iq?

duh
hitler's achievments:
>caused the war that killed the most white people ever
>caused the war that devastated europe, putting it at the mercy of the US economically and ending its global empires
>created white guilt forever
>demonised right-wing political thought forever

>>540660255
>Nowadays ive started to find the USSR and Stalin way more based than the germans.
>Greek flag
Pay debts

>>540669109
shouldnt have planned on attacking Germany then, you russian nigger

>>540660255
Didn’t read a single word in your post, but based on the premise in your thread title, you are correct. Only because he never actually attempted to eradicate the Jewish element that cultivated the decline that led Germany to the Weimar Era. Did Jews die in the camps? Sure. No one denies that, but the lives that were lost were not because of systemic eradication, but instead it was due to famine and disease because of the attrition of resources due to the German war effort.

Hitler’s only mistake was not actually doing the job the history books accuse him of.

>>540669109
>hither did....
Buddy. Hitler LOST. When you LOSE a war, you don't get to decide what happens after. If the LOSER decided what happens after a war, nobody would try to win wars lololololol
All that shit was done by the WINNERS (so not Hitler).
Make sense, little retard?

>>540660255
i want to fuck this butterface

>>540667657
>they pretend to be race blind
I've noticed that a lot of libertarians will engage in a bit of rhetorical slight of hand there to avoid being called racists. They'll mention that capitalism tends to make people less racist, but outside of conversations between people who are already hardcore libertarians they don't mention that it does so mostly by causing people to segregate. Wanjiru Njoya (who has an "n word pass" since she's Kenyan) and Hans-Hermann Hoppe tend to be much more open about this, although Wanjiru Njoya will sometimes try to put a politically correct face on it when she's talking to more general audiences. So you're right that libertarians only pretend to be race blind. There are of course some libertarians who really are basically lefties on race, but every movement has outliers. Also ignore the Libertarian Party in the US, they're a laughingstock to libertarians too.
>>540667763
>they talk abotu central banks, but not about the banks themselves
The central bank is what allows the banks to expand the money supply. Without a central bank to enforce the banking cartel banks that engage in fractional reserve banking will quickly go bust because when they loan out money to someone who spends it somewhere else and it gets deposited in another bank, that other bank will ask for those reserves to be transferred over. So even without a bank run fractional reserve banks fail in a hard money system. That's why we bitch about central banks, they are what allow the public facing banks to do what they do.
>>540668005
>they of course would not say that it's the jews but they say everything else.
Libertarians pretty frequently will point out how many jews are involved in the banking cartel. What libertarians don't do is blame all jews for being part of the jewish race just because the banking cartel is a criminal enterprise. Rothbard and Mises were both Jews, at least ethnically, I think they were probably atheists or agnostic in a religious sense.

>>540660255
Germany in general is and has been the primary problem facing Europe, specifically their desire to dominate it. If you actually think about it, the damage Germany has done to Europe is completely mind boggling.
>Fall of Rome
>WW1: millions dead, entirely the fault of Germany
>WW2: tens of millions of dead, again entirely the fault of Germany
>Directly leads to the collapse of European empires
>Fortunately America steps in and maintains peace and cooperation in Europe, leading to post WW2 golden age of art, commerce and advancement, before succumbing to ZOG
>Merkel and the millions of Syrians let in

WW1 and 2 were entirely German wars of choice, both ultimately were caused by Germany, full knowing. Germany did not even need to start either war, both wars caused more damage to Germany than if they just did nothing, In the case of WW1, Germany's asshurt towards Britain in the colonial race was entirely unfounded, Germany was already set to economically overtake the UK and the British knew it, They didn't even need to do anything.

>>540669539
>muh central bank
yes, thats all you talk about
as I said

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>>540667763
retard
Central banks let the fraudsters perpetuate the scheme and that's it. They all obviously participate in it.

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>>540666819
Bro dude was methed out of his mind before WW2 even started. He was a very useful idiot. And look at his results.

Millions of white people killed across Europe and all tied to his actions and orders.

>>540669372
Hitler waged war against Europeans for his own purposes. He never sent the Luftwaffe to drop bombs on Waddesdon Manor during the Battle of Britain. He let a captured Rothschild go for ransom. Hitler didn't even get rid of the gypsies, wasn't that another campaign promise there? So what did he do? Go around larping as Frederick the Great or some other previous German ruler who was great because he stole land from the Poles or something?

>>540669602
>yes, thats all you talk about
Yeah, it's the root of the problem. So of course we talk about it. You can't keep the monetary expansion but get rid of the central bank, and you can't keep the central bank but get rid of the monetary expansion. If you bitch about the banks but ignore the central one, you're retarded.

>>540669372
If you plan a family trip about poking the bear, poke the bear, and the bear mauls you and your family, IT IS ACTUALLY YOUR FAULT

>>540669372
no, these were things caused by the war
a war he started

>>540669811
central banks are just another version of banks
the same problem exists
they create money from nothing which enables them to buy anything they like
thats why jewish lolberts like you never talk about them

>>540669978
Idiot, individual banks would be FUCKING INSOLVENT by just doing that. They would simply collapse and be immediately replaced by serious firms. It's the central banks - "the lender of the last resort" - which let them get away with fraud. The problem solves itself without central banks.
We don't _often_ sperg about banks per se because you imbeciles cannot even grasp the concept of interest and you immediately start babbling about some "usury" kek.

>>540670482
how do you go insiolvent by buying up assets with money you create from nothing in the first place?
thats whole jewish playbook right there

>>540660255
Hitler undermined all europe and then made a pact with bolshevik jews and muslims to mass kill europeans. He was too much a homo "art student" obsessed with deranged aesthetics

>>540660255
Also
>ussr
>saving world from degeneracy
Greeks are so fucking stupid. I cant believe I wasted my time.

>>540670722
They saved the Slavic world from being Germanized

>>540669753
>>540669939
Simp logic. Hitler never built a mind control ray. The faggots who fought him (so their grandkids could be brown trannies) could have surrendered. But they didn't. And now they blame the world they created on the man who tried to stop it. Take accountability, faggot. Your WWII vet grandpappy was the unaccountable WHORE of his day.

>>540669910
Cool stupid facile analogy that's in no way related to geopolitics.

>>540670599
We want 100% percent reserve; banks can only lend what they already taken in deposits. That's obvious, like you cannot lend two drills to your neighbors if you only have one. The so called "fractional reserve" is what lets the banks lend more than they have (making money out of air) but the very concept was always - since ancient Rome - regarded as obvious fraud before creation of central banks. Banks which attempted it anyway didn't have funds to pay their deposits off on demand and they were just collapsing.
Investment banking has always been an inherently risky business btw and that's' good. Central banks have made the whole industry immune to any market forces, idiot-proof and too big to fail.

>>540669978
>central banks are just another version of banks
No, they're fundamentally different. Banks would just be glorified warehouses for money without a central bank. What central banks do is that they enable fractional reserve banking and coordinate the inflation.
>the same problem exists
No, it doesn't. Without a central bank irresponsible banks go bust, with a central bank responsible banks go out of business. The central bank makes sure that whenever the banks make loans they don't have the reserves to cover they just get covered by the central bank. So of course the banks inflate the money supply when the central bank exists, they have zero actual risk. Meanwhile without a central bank, the bank that loans out more than they have will go bust the moment someone withdraws more than they have left.
>they create money from nothing which enables them to buy anything they like
No they don't, what fractional reserve banks do is fraud. When banks were created they were just warehouses which stored gold, which was understood to be the actual money. The paper banknotes were warehouse receipts which eventually were exchanged directly instead of withdrawing the money and then doing business with it because gold is heavy to carry around all the time. The practice of printing new banknotes did not create actual new gold in the vaults, so those were receipts for non-existent gold. Which is to say they were fraudulent. Remember that the gold is the money, not the banknote. The central banks were created to facilitate this fraudulent practice. The US didn't leave the gold standard with a constitutional amendment repealing the part of the constitution that said only gold and silver are money. What happened was the banks were allowed to suspend specie payments on an ostensibly temporary basis, and that was extended indefinitely. They still technically owe us 1/35th of an ounce of gold for each dollar at some indefinite point in the future.

>>540670793
Thats complete bull shit. They signed deal with them and murdered more Slavs then even hitler

>>540671168
>uhm everyone else could have simply surrendered
lol

>>540671308
>and murdered more Slavs then even hitler
This is not true though. Where did you get this idea?
>they signed a deal
where they took half of Poland instead of Germany taking the WHOLE Poland

>>540671168
>Cool stupid facile analogy that's in no way related to geopolitics.
It literally is like that

>>540671337
>*looks at the west today*
Uhhh, yea, that would have absolutely have been the right call. Stop simping for unaccountable WHORES

>>540660255
Nazi germany is the only nation in the last 100 years with a sane racial ideology. The ethnos of a nation comes before everything; culture, religion and state all arise from the people, are not random, and do not somehow emerge without a people. National socialism is the only well-known political ideology that isn't fundamentally retarded on this. Even fascism is libtarded multicultural shit that puts the state above and separare from the people that it emerges from.

>>540671436
Ok belter, I can see why the state of the west today doesn't bother you, specifically

>>540660255
>he still cares about yurop and yuropeons
I'd behead every child on the continent in order to enrich myself. Fuck this low-trust nigger infested parcel of land.

>>540671477
hitler could have simply not started a war
all of europe, including germany, would be better off today

>>540671838
OH COOL, THE TOTAL JEW DOMINATION OF THE WEST COULD HAVE STARTED EVEN EARLIER!!!!!

>>540664262
>Hitler didn't just kill Jews, he also burned books about economics, and not just Marxist ones or ones written by Jews. Hitler genuinely thought that the will of the German race would allow him to overcome little problems like "knowing the correct amount of resources to allocate to a given task". Given the chronic logistical issues the Wehrmacht faced during the war, I think it's fair to say that willpower cannot replace economics and logistics.
This is funny because looking at Trump's current regime you see this playing out in real time.
>"What do you mean you should listen to the peopel who have wargamed this shit out to tell you that invading Iran is a really really stupid idea and not fall for Israel's obvious trap?"
Meanwhile reality as they keep firing generals for not putting Hegseths latest drunken failed idea into play and 600 servicemen are wounded while getting effectively nothing done.
It's that right wing mindset where no one else can be smarter than me but also I have to force that to be the case till everyone is stupider than me so I can keep control.
Bit of a self-fulfiling prophecy and relatively speaking Hitler at least didn't kill or fire everyone more intelligent than him like Trump.

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>>540671168
>Here bro let me kill everyone and steal your land bro
>I need to do this because Jews or something BTW the holocaust was fake & gay didn't happen

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>>540660255
>Stalin was racist
>He toned down internationalism

No
/thread

>>540671998
>kill everyone
Wtf you talking about? He killed commies, retard. Where are the homicidal gas chambers for all non Germans? You make that shit up too?

>>540671920
would it? burgers are the most powerful zogbots and they would be in a weaker position

>>540672175
>implying the kikes who ran the countries that Hitler invaded were JUST ABOUT to betray the kikes who ran America and Britian
Utterly retarded cope. They were on the same side in the war BECAUSE THEY HAD THE SAME GOALS. How fucking stupid are you?

>>540672088
>He killed commies
He killed 20 million civilians in his war of aggression against the USSR which makes him worse. He also killed plenty of people in Western Europe and invented modern strategic bombing by bombing civilians in Guernica. The Soviets who fought Hitler were ordinary people defended their homeland. And then what about Poland too? What's the excuse there?

>>540671529
I am not western. Slavs are eastern peoples.

>>540669539
Libertarians are on the good side when they say that if muh capitalism and muh freedoms were acted on to the letter, then there would have been no gay 1965 changes to freedom of association and there would be no "positive discrimination" like they say in europe or affirmative action in the usa by the state. But when it really comes down to taking a stance, they will sperg out about muh nazi racism and be full lbgt pedos to not appear too evil but only safe evil. They are unreliable because they are like 90% of the way nazis but might turn globohomo just on the last step where they might get cancelled.

>>540672088
>He killed commies, retard
He killed Russian civilians, meanwhile ethnic German KPD members got the soft labor camps and all survived, even became prison guards themselves under DDR.
Clearly racially motivated.

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>>540671486
>sane racial ideology
>Extremely divisive D&C nonsense
>Ukraine-tier ethnonationalist retardation
>Demonize white people
>Worship non-white people
>Fancies himself as an Indo-Iranian
No, it's the most retarded ideology out there.

>>540672460
The problem with this image is that nobody considers Slavs white and no white nationalist cares if Bandera killed Poles

>>540672328
Na fuck off, Germany bombed industry and some dumb ass civilians working in it were killed in collateral damage.
Also in the east you're talking about soliders, not civilians. There is 0 evidence that homes were ever targeted in any way.
>>540672404
Exactly.
>>540672448
Na, he killed Russian combatants.

>>540672757
Germany literally did the Siege of Leningrad, where they starved the entire city for like 3 years. The only supply route was a frozen lake and they tried to bomb that too. Over 1 million civilians died there alone.

What unironically blows my mind is how WW2 killed tens of millions of Whites yet the Holohoax never happened and somehow Kikes get permanent victim status and forget the people who actually suffered on all sides of Europe.

>>540672328
>remember the 20 bullion killed in the slavocaust goyim
Let me guess, rollarcoasters and a big cage with a bear and an eagle, right?

>>540660255
And jews were the direct cause of the Problem Hitler faced back then, so your point is...?

>>540672317
jews didnt run the countries of europe to the degree they run burgertown

>>540673062
But don't forget how jews put up all the statues to thank whitey who liberated them from camps and young jews at universities always protect those statues if some evil lefties try to trash them.

>>540672425
>But when it really comes down to taking a stance, they will sperg out about muh nazi racism and be full lbgt pedos to not appear too evil but only safe evil.
One of the convenient things about having an internally consistent ideology is that you can talk about the parts people agree with and leave out the parts people don't, but not actually succumb to believing what the lgbtq++ retards believe. Like when the government tries to ban gay marriage we can go "yeah, fuck the government for doing that" and then try to get important points across without mentioning that we absolutely support private discrimination against homosexuals. The overton window has shifted pretty far away from what we want, so we have to be tactical.
>They are unreliable because they are like 90% of the way nazis
Absolutely not. We don't even really agree with nazis about race, and we definitely don't agree with them about epistemology, economics, or pretty much anything else. In our eyes nazis are just another brand of socialist.
>might turn globohomo just on the last step where they might get cancelled.
Globohomo can't survive without doing everything we oppose. To turn globohomo we'd have to just give up on everything we believe in, and given that we already hold pretty radical and controversial beliefs, the idea that we'd give them up for acceptance at the last minute when we are just about to win is absurd. Some libertarians might accept absolute monarchy as a compromise, but never globohomo.

>>540673062
Woah, you're telling me Stalin didn't let civilians leave the city were a major battle was about to happen? How's that Hitler's fault? Do you need me to tell you how many slavs the jews WHO WON WHO HITLER TRIED TO STOP killed?? You really want to go there, stupid fuck? You literally cannot escape the fact that everyone who didn't surrender made a major fucky-wucky as time went on lol. Maybe next time someone shows up as an invading army (because they literally have to) to save you, you won't fuck up AGAIN

>>540673361
You were getting invaded by the Jewnited states one way or another. If you actually think we invaded for the good of European people, even just the intention to help European people, you're utterly fucking delusional. If we were mad about Pearl Harbor, we could have just fought Japan. But we invaded Europe too because it was coming one way or another and it would have even easier if your were fractured

>>540673361
>>540673860
Oh and don't even get me started on what would have happened if the commies got you lol.
You basically had 3 options. Salvation (Hitler), slow death (America) and super fast death (Ussr)

>>540673636
Libertarianism has good ideals and has a change to work for a generation or two every now and then but only after some fascist event where multiculturalism and globohomo gets a major setback and extermination and people mostly live with their own. Libertarians are slightly less gay than lefties because they are not as naive about lies such as equality. The problem is that liberties are also sort of a lie because no matter how ancap of a guy you find, they will list dozens of exceptions to the libertarian ideology and that is even when it's a peace time. When it's no peace time or hard times, the ideology has nothing but exceptions.

>>540673679
>It's Stalin's fault Germany killed a bunch of civilians
Wut.

>No matter what Germany or Shitler did they dindu nuffin and it's everyone else's fault
Judeo female mentality

>>540674246
>"Stalin only kept civilians in a city that was about to be invaded at gunpoint, Stalin din do nuffin"
>not even denying the kikes who "saved" the slavs from Hitler killed way more civilians (and not even in a war either, just labor camps, starvation and straight up secret police killings)
Absolute concern accepted. Go put on your clown makeup

>>540674219
>Libertarianism has good ideals and has a change to work for a generation or two every now and then
most historical societies weren't states. Almost every part of the libertarian program aside from the economic parts were near universal throughout human history. The only novel part of modern libertarianism is the understanding of market economics. If states were somehow abolished tomorrow and it were a choice between respecting property rights or some anarcho-syndicalist nonsense, most people would go for the former and the ones who go for the latter would starve to death in short order. So no, our idea's aren't impractical in the long term or unrealistic, they're far more pragmatic than the idea that any state can even try to be good for long before they get taken over by more self interested actors.
>The problem is that liberties are also sort of a lie because no matter how ancap of a guy you find, they will list dozens of exceptions to the libertarian ideology and that is even when it's a peace time.
You either don't understand our ideas very well, or you haven't talked to someone who was. Probably both. Give me an example of an exception you think libertarians make in the ideology.

>>540674441
Concession*

>>540674441
>It's your fault we killed you
>Just abandon an entire city and go into the like, forest or something because we're going to kill you
JFC you're fucking retarded, this is like sub-muzzoid nigger tier reasoning.

>>540675105
The German army had captured many cities by that time and always treated the civilians (actual civilians not shooting at them) extremely well. No mass systemic rapes like the Russians did (to all European women, not just Germans who i assume you would say deserved it), no death camps like the Bolsheviks did.

>>540674498
I get that it circles back from having liberties and people then freely choosing what they allow or who they associate with.
The obvious exceptions are no child labor, private nuclear weapons or for most people no hard drugs, like only drugs that are as dangerous or less dangerous than alcohol. There would also be border control and treason laws.
And those are only during peace time.

I will obviously side with libertarians on lessening state power and useless regulations, the good medium is somewhere between. Especially if the states currently try to kill the native populations but slowly. It's just a perhaps semantic thing that there are very few actual libertarian people, but just people who think the current regulations are wrong and they want different kind of regulations. The freedom is not the ideology, it's what regulations someone is willing to have what the actual ideology is. And there's nothing wrong with that. But surely if you are running a political program, you can propose something extreme you want to gain some halfway progress.

>>540674246
I can tell calling you a simp really got to you lol

>>540675105
>no one ever evacuated a city before
Jfc the cope is too much

>>540663057
Bodied that kike.
>>540664262
>>540662789
Kys

>>540664262
>He wasn't a very deep reader
Retarded faggot jew doesn’t know about what hitler was even known for.
>reading
One of Gemrany’s literal biggest readers who woild power down 5 books in a night. You need to go jump in front of a train in india.

>>540675561
>The obvious exceptions are no child labor, private nuclear weapons or for most people no hard drugs
You literally cannot be a libertarian and support abolishing some consensual non-aggressive activity. People are also perfectly free to agree to contracts which stipulate *not* doing those things. So while we don't support a state preventing people from doing those things, we're completely fine with, for instance, people including in some contract which needs to be signed to buy property in a neighborhood that you aren't allowed to keep a 50 megaton bomb in your basement, and we're also perfectly fine with an insurance company denying coverage to junkies, along with shooting junkies who behave aggressively.
>There would also be border control and treason laws.
Absolutely not. In fact we're very pro treason. What we do support is the right to include in contracts to transfer property various stipulations, like that you cannot sell it to a foreigner. That is not aggression, it is freedom of contract, but if widely done it would amount to border control. We also think that immigrants and multiculturalism increase crime risks, and thus firms which engage in risk pooling against crime would raise prices or deny coverage not only to immigrants, but people who allow immigrants to travel across their property. This would be tantamount to banishment, since in a private law society insurance would be the primary source of military defense.
>It's just a perhaps semantic thing that there are very few actual libertarian people, but just people who think the current regulations are wrong and they want different kind of regulations.
If you want a clear idea of what is really a libertarian vs someone who has just adopted the label, I'd suggest reading Rothbard's "For a New Liberty". There are very few actual libertarians.
>The freedom is not the ideology
Actually it is.

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>>540676323
>One of Gemrany’s literal biggest readers who woild power down 5 books in a night.
Have you ever tried to finish even a single substantial book in a night? You're not going to absorb much. I said he wasn't a deep reader, not that he didn't read a lot. He even said himself that he immediately discards everything he doesn't already agree with when he is reading.

>>540660255
>Stalin had largely rid the union of jewish influences by the 1930s
you know nothing. jews got rid of him. 30's were the most murderous years when jews killed millions with absolute impunity

>>540668692
>kike says opposite of reality
Bolsheviks exterminated the volga germans. The communists ground themselves down to the bone to destroy hitler and the nazis. Your fellow jews are the ones who sent lenin to russia.

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>>540660255
ironically, he's still the answer to the cause of Europe's problems today. DEATH TO ALL RAT KIKE FILTH

>>540669109
You jews caused WWI, which is what destroyed Europe’s empires.

>>540660255
Slavs are beasts and Hitler was right to attempt to genocide them. Look how easily Ukranians got PsyOped into killing their literal genetic relatives and Ukrainians are going to be extinctified.

>>540675105
It’s actually a pretty vile warcrime to not evacuate your city before an enemy lays siege to it. Especially since we know your motivation was to purposely ensure the death of the citizens. You’re a jewish war criminal

>>540676571
Why do you jews keep at it with the fake hitler quotes, even though you get slammed for it in the replies each time? Your boomer boss force you to kwep using them?

>>540660255
kill yourself kike

>>540660255
Because he lost. Europe would be a fucking paradise had he won.

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>>540660637
Ukraine Lost

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>>540660255
Wrong
The Rothschild did

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Jews would not have gained the level of control and influence they have today without Christianity.

https://nitter.poast.org/NazariosWorld/status/2073402909073543508#m

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>>540678269
The Jewish problem can only be resolved when we also recognize the Christian problem. We must strive to remove those disgusting Abrahamic cults from this planet.

>>540679600
none of that matters if not accounting for the woke godless childless whore problem, which swedes being a cucked people generally are incapable of even entertaining.

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>>540660255
>Hitler is indirectly the cause of the problems Europe faces today
Yes he didn't win the war.