>doofus manchild Trudeau rules for 10 years>becomes so unpopular he has to resign>Mark Carney who's lived in Europe for over a decade comes in>Rigged liberal party election wins him leader, becomes PM of Canada for months without actual vote>election called scheduled for couple months later>entire campaign is America/Trump evil, Captain Carney is a genius businessman banker that will fight Trump and will force Trump to bow to Canadian trade demands>not only wins, but almost wins a majority government (every other liberal seat is occupied by the same MPs who ruined the country over the previous decade)>his first act is a Trump style "signing executive orders while looking serious" event except Canadians PM have no executive order powers and it meant nothing>instead of negotiating with Trump he flies to Europe>talks tough against Trump instead of negotiating, saying multiple things like "our relationship with the US is permanently over" despite US representing over 70% of our trade>flies to China and makes "historic" deal>repeatedly threatens Trump>US officials repeatedly state Canada isn't even negotiating>multiple woke Provincial leaders arbitrarily ban the sale of American booze in their provincesAll that tough talk pretending Canada doesn't need the US and woke liberal retards just reveling in every anti-American activity (such as booing national anthems at sports games, or gleefully announcing cancellation of their vacation plans to the US) meant nothing as Carney capitulates to every major US trade demand.And guess what? As the surrender is being finalized, Carney conveniently flies to Italy on a personal vacation.And the Liberal party is stronger than ever as Canada's surrender will be spun by the media as some sort of victorious win for Carney and major loss for Trump.I've skimmed over a lot of things too just to keep this short.
>>540664764to be more clear, It's been reported Canada is about to capitulate to each original trade demand set out by Trump almost 2 years ago while we're pretty much getting nothing except tariff relief.It's the worst possible deal for Canada but it will be spun as if Carney finally gained a great victory over Trump. Millions of Canadian NPCs will stand proud as if we defeated Blumpf.It's really that sad.
>>540664764>elections are rigged in western 'democracies'No shit sherlock.Everything you've said applies to every western country in the world and most other countries in the world and has for hundreds of years.Democracy has never actually existed.The system has always been a corrupt constitutional republic. Your vote nominally counts for 1/population of your country which is already stupidly small, except the people you're allowed to vote for are all vetted and pre-approved by the oligarchs (2 million USD to successfully run for congress, 200 million USD to successfully run for senate, upfront costs, data taken from all existing and prior existing members) then these corrupt rich fucks form parties and vote among themselves who the leader is.To say nothing of gerrymandering, revolving door, and everything else.The idea of democracy was always a trick they sold to naive third worlders hoping to become prospective drones/slaves to the system.At no time in Canada's history has it ever been a democracy. Canada was always a constitutional monarchy like the UK.
It's a joke, no one is even organizing, people are too busy trying to stay economically afloat while the whole shit house goes up in flames.
The majority was won through floor crossers initially, which has never happened in the history of the Westminster Parliamentary system.
we're cooked
>>540664764>I've skimmed over a lot of things too just to keep this short.Still way too fucking long to read anyway you obvious VPN migger; it's hilarious you fags can still find the time to shit on us given the state of your own country currently though, so pls keep it up.
>>540664764just put the lumber and tars sands in the bag, leaf
>>540667260What's the point? There is no real way to get anything done here; nobody is going to wake up and you can't make them. A concerning amount of useful idiots think this guy is a genius economist with his elbows elevated thinking that he's taking the US to task meanwhile the guy has done literally nothing other than announcing announcements and touting MOUs as deals. This guy is enriching Brookfield and their pals while regular people are going to get shafted far worse than ever before. You are still getting infinity Indians, they're just turning down one faucet while opening five others. Reminder that over half of MPs are completely compromised yet we're expected to pretend the system is legitimate nothing is to be done about this.This country is completely fucking dead in the water. It's a total joke.
>>540664764>America/Trump evilThis is true though
>>540665428Except after the Statute of Westminster 1931 when the monarchy released all claim to and within North America and Canada legally ceased to exist consequently.
Canada is also getting 5 million more Indians so boomers can dump property on them and fuck off to Trump's favorite state of Florida.
>>540665021It's because the new bridge just opened and he needs to prove to investors that there was a point in building it. If premiers don't backtrack I expect a rollout of scandals connecting them to radical groups since you can't mend trade tensions with leaders that are seen as hateful
>>540664764Can we get the GMAX emails?
>>540664764Remember when all you Miga manlets would call him little Justin as he towers over you lolTotal faggots
>>540665021lol just like he beat Iran XDYou mutt loving kikes are stupid
>>540665021I am Indo-Canadian, and we should merge with USA.If you want to see my brown-ass GTFO from your country, I will gladly do so. I'd happily live in Florida or Texas, but becoming an American citizen is impossible without that $1 mill green card investment.
It was a very funny sight on voting day. So many white humans came out I've never seen that in Canada. Voting polls were in the craziest places like mosques and pretty much anywhere where White people would not go, and they filled up the spots with all black and brown workers to further shame the White voters. It was hilarious, humiliation ritual at its finest. We all know who voted for who, and it sure as hell wasn't liberals.
>>540669105Fecaloids will never be human.
>>540664764Cry and seethe harder, loser. Pollieve is a tiny stupid angry clown and conservatives’ are so out of touch with Canadian values … white racism living rent free 24/7 .. that they’ll never win government again. Ideologically and policy bankrupt (and corrupt) party. It took him a year after the election to even come up with a US policy and it amounted to bend over for Trump. You’re so determined to take American cock you should just move there. We’ll fight for Canada… and build relations with other countries and sign trade deals .. which Carney has done at an unprecedented pace, including building pipelines. Traitors get the rope.
>>540665021They will never capitulate on the Quebec dairy bullshit though, they literally can't because the frog fags will separate.Best they can do is lie and pretend to capitulate and just break the agreement again same as they did last time which is what triggered the whole thing in the first place.
>>540669257Timmy means honored by God
>>540669105>Indo-CanadianYou are a jeet
>>540669257Kek, ankles up you moron.Carneys only accomplishment is the top notch dinner service on his flights around the world doing nothing.Invest in brookfield cause its up 16% in one year as he loots this sinking ship.
>>540669265>They will never capitulate on the Quebec dairy bullshit thoughAnd we shouldn’t. American dairy is hormone and pus filled industrial poison. The worst in the world. No other country will take it.
why did usa become hostile to canada? was it canada offending another country usa answers to?
>>540664764The truckers should have burned Ottawa down and killed everyone in the city. That was our chance for political reform. Now its too late. Hopefully Alberta can leave this shithole boomerhell.
>>540669406Keep paying 15 dollars for a 100g slice of Italian parmesan while frog dairy farmers drive past you in their escalades then liberal retard.
I think it’s great those dumb corrupt Alberta rednecks stole and leaked the voter roles, because now we know who the separatist traitors are and where they live.
>>540669566Please do come over now that the crown is instructed not to prosecute home invasion shootings
>>540669521>That was our chance for political reform. Now its too late.Trvke. That was the last chance.
>>540669521They really should have.
>>540669558Yes, Id rather have pastured family owned farms producing health product that corporate own mass milk factories, 1000s of sick cow living in their own shite with infected udders. And I have no problem paying $15 for the better product. According to you that makes me a globalist blah blah. You’d sell out all of Canada, just like you sell out farmers and families. Mad Max tried, and he couldn’t even get 2%
>>540669871>producing health product that corporate own mass milk factoriesHoly ESL jeet detected.I'll have a large double double and a honey cruller please, chop chop get on that order.
>>540664764It's being spun as "momentary" capitulation until Trump is out of office, as if even if a democratic gets in after they will immediately amend all of our concessions made under the Trump admin.The thing that bothers me though is that I can''t accept the entire reasoning for the implosion of Canada being so 1 dimensional. Like is it just so overt (enriching brookfield) that I'm desperately grasping for an ulterior motive behind this when the reality is that Canadians are just actually retarded as a comically evil man robs everyone blind?
>>540670097Holy fuck, that’s your intelligent political retort?“Jeet”? Like I said:>out of touch with Canadian values … white racism living rent free 24/7.You faggots are dumb, useless, and above everything else: losers. Can’t win in life, can’t win elections.
canadians are so fucking dumb. no shit this is how it would play out, retard. you faggot ass canadians were being highly disrespectful when you had absolutely no hand to be played. you insufferable retards aren't even a real country
>>540668218my mom went on 70 vacations in her first 3 years of retirement and never needed to sell her property.
>>540669500nobody was hostile to canada. they think they deserved special treatment and chimped out when we pursued a trade deal in our own interest. everything is the fault of canadians thinking they are more important than they actually are
>>540664764Who is the ugly lesbian next to him?
>>540670590Ivana Humpalot
>>540664764what do you guys think about dominion society?ive been waiting for a canada thread to connect with my ancestral homelands. my great great grandpa was born in new brunswick
>>540669500US ZOG is running out of money from constant jewish excess, so it's trying to look for new opportunities for usury.Canada has been more than generous by giving them complete open access for years to our natural resources, energy, and even our military. The kikes however thinks that isn't enough, so wanted to squeeze more. We're literally dumping millions of gallons of unprocessed crude to the US who can process it and sell for a premium; the business arrangements have been entirely in America's favor.Fuck these muttniggers.
Reading this thread, it's clear we deserve the misery we live in. Leafs are shit man. That's it. Keep getting deceived and fucked in the ass retards literal speds
>>540667260dominion society and second sons are growing rapidly
>>540669500checktrump explicitly said he wanted to annex canada, and is pursuing a trade war to that effect, knowing that we can't go toe to toe in a war of attrition. we have been economically held back and exploited by wall st for years. almost 60% of our oil and gas is owned by us investors, and the profits leave the country with them.this is all manufactured outrage too, canada never imposed the whopping tariffs on us dairy, as they never hit that import quantity. it's a theoretical number.basically just a bunch of flimsy excuses to wage economic war in a desperate attempt to realize that stupid greater north america technocracy thing, which is why greenland is also involved.
>>540670967canada is in a better position for white nationalists than usa. yet you stand there and bitch about. there are 40 million people in all of canada. we have more niggers in our country than your total population.
>>540671035canada literally has opportunities for trade with europe and east asia yet is so slow incompetent and ineffective at pursuing it
>>540664764>such as booing national anthems at sports gamespersonally i quite like thatmakes for good hockey
>>540671035also don't forget canada sold out its entire aviation manufacturing industry. absolutely fucking insane. canada should today have its own boeing or airbus. but it was pressured by the us to stop certain developments starting in the 60's. and starting in the 60's up to like 2018-2021 when bombadier basically sold out the remnants of canadian owned aviation by selling its aviation AND transportation branches to France. And not even to mention all the banks, wealth management firms, developers, mining, etc. canada should easily be the richest country in the world with one of the highest standards of living. don't forget that.
>>540670557lol. Trump, a loser, pursued, negotiated, and signed a new USMCA trade deal … and then reneged because he didn’t like it. Why? We were better deal makers. That’s how stupid your dumb losing president is in reality. He wanted a new deal. We didn’t. We just won a better deal. And we’ll do it again. And if we don’t, we’ll just sell our oil and gas and potash and metals and rare earths to other counties, including China, and America can fuck itself. We’re going to do it anyways now. Thanks for the tough love; We now know America can’t be trusted and is a shit corrupt economic partner that won’t honour deal and contracts. You’re lucky we’re selling you electricity. And the only reason we haven’t shut down the upstream flow of the Columbia river (which would destroy western American crops and power production) is because they’re Democratic states and have begged us to be good neighbours. Frankly, I love seeing Florida and Las Vegas tourism, and bourbon factories, go bust and all those American lose their jobs and livelihoods. And you dumbfucks still paying billions in tarriffs, driving inflation, thinking it doesn hurt you. That’s what you voted for.
>>540671269oh and due to 1965 auto act canada has not a single independent Canadian car brand despite it being the 5th largest auto manufacturer by value in the world
>>540671116>yet is so slow incompetent and ineffective at pursuing ithow so? specifically?a lot of our problems have to do with internal trade boundaries, which were put in to placate american investors. america does not let rivals exist, all countries need to be kept in thrall via dollar diplomacy. our biggest, realest problem is that we pay all our debts in us dollars, which means we are paying out big time to the us, instead of investing that domestically. >>540671269dead on, excellent postwe were forced to de-industrialize. all of the manufacturing downs are dead and decayed. train tracks are unused, ports grow rust. at least our pm is investing in infrastructure and industry for once instead of doing everything to block it.
>>540671269the research and development for one of airbus's most successful products, the a220, was bought by airbus from bombadier after bomabadier spent billions developing it but never was able to produce a single plane. airbus bought the blueprints and rights to it and has basically been printing cash with it ever since
>>540671318i always wanted a canadian made car, something that was made for here. a lot of the time we get cars with thermostats meant for the texas climate, happened to my unclebut something like a subaru outback or lada niva, 4x4 and simple, home repairs possible, made for winter.literally nothing is made for cold climates. every door sweep i buy cracks in the cold, all the caulking cracks in the cold, cars don't start, even furnaces freeze up sometimes. this is because we source most of our stuff from the us, and it's hard for businesses to operate nationally.we also get about 1/10 of the selection that you get in stores in the us.
>>540671493>the eh220i worked at an airport, and it reminds me of the time they got all new gates installed, but the tires wouldn't work on the ice and snow for the moving gate head. they also froze up in the cold, they were designed for california.
>>540671440>how so? specifically?look how long it took canada to finalize its submarine deal. it shouldve went with hanwha instead of the german firm. korea has a demographic crisis and its chaebols are rapidly spreading out its manufacturing into other countries. we can see this for example with the massive battery plants it has been developing for example in Georgia, USA. Hyundai, LG, and SK have been building two massive battery plans in the state. Many other investments from east asian us allies across the US. Picking hanwha would've been a key foothold for continued east asian investment in Canada. Germany's companies are facing many issues and they do not want to send manufacturing in any large quantity to Canada
>>540669406>he bought the Boomer propagandaenjoy your dogshit butter and 300 varieties of expensive cheddar
>>540671440>internal trade boundariesthis is another thing that is so insane to me. I know they're technically not official trade barriers but de facto trade barriers nonetheless. >america does not let rivals existi mean can you blame us for wanting more wealth for ourselves when Canadian "leaders" always say and imply nasty things about us? and I don't even think it's 100% true that we don't let other countries rise. For example with the gulf, sure we got a lot from the petrodollar, but also we gave them massive amounts of stability to economically develop and transition into some of the wealthiest countries per citizen in the world
>>540664764Canadians seething over the idea that the US could declare their nation an American state was so, so funny. All that impotent rage and indignation. We all know the US absolutely could take Canada and the most the average Canadian would manage is to dilate xer neovagina, but we never wanted another faggy impotent cuckold state.
>>540671440>train tracks are unusedthe largest block of shareholders by country of Canadian pacific stock is the US, with 45% owned by us investors. I don't know if it
>>540664764>Not a Serious CountryYes, we know.
>>540671809interesting, you're much better informed on this than i am.i keep thinking a bold move would be to pivot to china. and battery plant investment is where it's at, as all this green electric tech needs storage. i think carney is throwing a sop to the oil industry, and maybe to the germs and nato as well. i was just reading the reasons given were that the german ones are built for the arctic, parts availability and interchangeability with other nato countries, speed of delivery, and a promise to create 100,000 jobs in canada. i think the government is pretty concerned with territorial sovereignty, as we are sandwiched between the us and russia. i would have dismissed it as hysterical rhetoric if i hadn't seen it myself, but there is a lot of russian influence being used to destabilize canada due to the ukraine war involvement. some guy with a name like tommy mcpherson kept saying "Carney must go" over and over, but his first posts were all in cyrillic lol, and when he was called out, he just ballsed through it kek.on a personal level i would love dealing with koreans over germans any day of the week, i've worked in hotels. they're like robots programmed to annoy you to death.
>>540671686yeah it's crazy. hoestly canadian leaders completely failed their people because canada should have at least one canada-focused brand
>>540671291tl;dryou don't matter, you have no history, you have no culture, you have no economy, you just rely on natural resources like the dumb niggers you are. you aren't a real country
>>540671975there is an fdr era treaty iirc that says the us will basically act as the military for the saudis in exchange for free flow of oil. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s28SKy-nMPo?feature=sharethese agreements are the foundation of the petrodollar, as the agreements state that they can only sell oil in us dollars, which directly helps the us government by keeping the dollar high and desirable. this brings in tons of investment, as you need to buy the dollars first before you spend them.america can only afford to have the massive standing army it does, because most countries owe their debts in us dollars too. their control has been slipping due to brics, and us desperation is getting worse. hitting the nordstream means that eu now has to get gas from us, which means that energy dollars still exists, but in a different form. the idea is to keep dollars flowing back to the us. this is why the banks wanted to capture all of the illegal drug money laundering business, it helps the country. america is now the offshore bank. >wealth per citizenbut look how it's divided. you have people living like the jetsons, and people living under half fallen cinderblocks. the middle east oil states have the worst income inequality in the world. so you have a corrupt, fat, paid off elite. compare this with ghadaffi's libya
>>540672383china doesn't take canada seriously. there is some bad blood from treaudau acting like a retard with xi. trudeau put a bunch of tariffs on chinese evs, steel and aluminum. when trump came in and carney came in, as trump put a bunch of tariffs on canadian goods, china did the same and continued to levy more and more. carney went to china to beg and china lifted the tariffs in exchange for ev sales into canada at a massively reduced tariff rate. but rest assured, china does not at all take canada seriously.
>>540664764go back to shitistan you jeet piece of shit, jesus christ you fucking poo eaters need to to fight more trains instead of sucking jew cock, at least that is entertaining
>>540672895a great book on what i was talking about. this guy was the one who figured out how the us runs the world, and to his chagrin they ran with the idea.https://www.counterpunch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Killing-The-Host_PDF_V7.pdf>chinatrudeau fucked it up for us so badly. most people would love to have chinese ev's instead of the overpriced garbage we make here. they're being adopted rapidly all over the world, especially in poor countries with little infrastructure and super high fuel prices. he has to play appeasement games with the labour unions, who only care about themselves, and have more lobbying power than individuals. the main problem is we have a fat and flatulent elite running just about every sphere of power. a corrupt populace can't do great things.
>>540664764Carney is a legit psychopath, whereas Trump pretends to be one.
Cope and seethe, still voting carney
>>540672830i don't think it was a written treaty but rather a mutual understanding developed over decades. and yes the petrodollar has been one of the most important stimulants for the us economy. kind of unfair since france and uk were deeply damaged and indebted after ww2 and couldn't handle the protector role in the region and thus didn't benefit
>>540672771lol. Trump is collapsing America. You won’t even be a failed British or French empire once he’s through selling you out; you’ll just be Russia tier, filled with Mexicans, owned by Saudis, and beholden to Israel. Americans still think they’re world leaders but are too stupid to realize no one — absolutely no one — is following America. Even with Trumps threats they’re not following. Instead they’re banding together, even with China, and telling America to fuck off. You can’t even fucking beat Iran.
>>540670590Remember Wayne's World? Yeah.
>>540664764Its would be funny watching the Carney cult try and spin his failures as anything but. But then the rest of the country falls for it or is just to apathetic and broken to care. It will probably take another 10 years for people to figure it out, but the LPC can just pull the same move again. Just an inescapable death spiral and it's our fault
>>540673488saar sex white pussy
>>540673174>chinese EVsThe reason they weren’t allowed in was to protect the Autopact and the shared US-Canada auto industry. It was a united front. Now that Trump has decided to fuck Canada and “repatriate” those factories, there’s absolutely no reason not to let Chinese EVs in. In fact: the Canadian government should make every effort and tax/financial incentive to attract at Chinese manufacturing to Canada, take over those no unused ford/Gm factories and suppliers, and build Chinese EVs for Hemispheric and European export. Open the market, end tariffs, give BYD the billion they were going to give stallantis + tax breaks, and let America / Tesla seethe from real capitalist competition. I hope it kills the US industry and all those auto workers lose their jobs.
>>540673521ai generated answer here:>The agreement between Franklin D. Roosevelt and King Abdulaziz Al Saud, often referred to as the USS Quincy Pact, was established during a historic meeting on February 14, 1945, aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal. While not a formal, signed treaty in the traditional legal sense, it was a foundational political understanding that defined U.S.-Saudi relations for decades. >The core bargain involved a reciprocal exchange of strategic interests:>U.S. Security Guarantees: The United States committed to providing military aid, arms, and protection for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia against external threats, ensuring the sovereignty of the Saudi state. >Saudi Oil Access: In return, Saudi Arabia guaranteed preferential and secure access to its vast oil reserves for American companies (primarily ARAMCO) and allies, ensuring a stable supply of energy for the U.S. >This understanding was reinforced by earlier actions, such as Roosevelt’s 1943 Lend-Lease designation declaring Saudi defense vital to U.S. security, and later formalized through the 1951 Mutual Defense Assistance Agreement. A subsequent 1974 economic cooperation agreement further cemented the alliance by establishing the "petrodollar" system, where Saudi oil revenues were invested in U.S. debt in exchange for continued military protection
>>540664764>US officials repeatedly state Canada isn't even negotiating>multiple woke Provincial leaders arbitrarily ban the sale of American booze in their provincesStop sucking yankee doodle dick you hoser. Carney is a globalist good goy but you’re fucking retarded if you think these “trade talks” are nothing more than theatrics.
>>540664764Don't feel so bad guy, all of our countries are full of these clowns.
>>540674455checkfat ford is shitting himself over this, the unions will kill him if he doesn't oppose chinese ev's. we have groups within canada that are worse enemies than the ones abroad. in a democracy, everyone gets what they want, except the people. this us tariff thing is just the catalyst, the corruption has weakened the foundations to the point that i really wonder if the country will survive, or even should survive
>>540674271>failures.Kek. You keep saying that and circle jerk it to yourself, but he’s the most successful PM of the past 20 years, and the most popular with 60% approval ratings. If an election was held today it would be a Carney landslide, a 200 seat majority, with the Tories pretty much wiped out except for Alberta. Theyd be lucky to get 50 seats. You fags are completely delusional. All you do a jerk off to jeet bait.
>>540673936Tia Carrera?!! Holy fuck!
>>540674539yes exactly. famous meeting on board the ship right after ww2. both america and saudi got so lucky with the timing
most Canadians are worth more as a life insurance claim than as employees; they're chronically underskilled versus their counterparts. education doesn't mean anything given how it's so poorly put to useidk how this economically flaccid country does anything, but at least we have another 100 memorandums of understanding coming this week. maybe one day that'll translate into action
>>540674763Canadian Autoworker and US Autoworkers are completely split now. There’s basically civil war between the two unions, because burgers chose Trump, rather than solidarity. Stellanits was supposed to get a couple,of billion for a EV plant, that they backed out of. If Ford went to China, offered the same deal to BYD (which was also a union deal/plant) it would be a massive win for Ontario and Canada. The auto pact is dead. Trump killed it. North American automaker have chosen Trump. Let’s stop pretending. Let’s make deals with China.
>>540675251who are you going to sell the cars to?
>lol just like he beat Iran XD>You mutt loving kikes are stupidThe kikes own your soul and you don't even know it Sukhdeep. Beyond pathetic
>>540669257Cool it Dev
>>540664764Good summary leaf. I've said before, the only war of aggression I would willingly fight is to invade Canada.
>>540670965You will never be a real Canadian Habib, and they will drive you out before which ever filthy brown religion you subscribe to can permanently infect the people.
who cares, complaining is for fags, go and do something with your life you faggot loser
>>540675865north korea
>>540664764stopped reading after "rigged".all the orange pedophile had to do was not threaten Canada with annexation and you know it.He was literally set for a landslide but tripped over himself when he couldn't openly oppose Trump's rhetoric
>>540678547Kikes are not human
>>540672830>there is an fdr era treaty iirc that says the us will basically act as the military for the saudis in exchange for free flow of oil.Then you recall incorrectly, they met on the Suez canal but their oil industry wasn't subject to discussion or agreements, main topic was on stability in the Levant and Jewish immigration to Palestine (well see how that went).
i like deadwingdork's takes on the controlled collapse
>stopped reading after "rigged".>all the orange pedophile had to do was not threaten Canada with annexation and you know it.>He was literally set for a landslide but tripped over himself when he couldn't openly oppose Trump's rhetoricChang, we all know you guys worked really hard to rig that election, but that's just it. We all KNOW. Please don't throw a hissy fit just because you weren't able to be subtle about it.
>>540678547Westminster styled parliaments have party elections to determine the Prime Minister, they can absolutely (and frequently are) be against popular opinion.
>>540678732>>540674539
>>540678872all the parties here are globalist puppets so it's a nothing burger issueexcept the albanian communist party but they cannot win
>>540678985Why is Canada a nation of cuckolds?
>>540667948Yea I think that's when the City of London took over. The financial cabal of transnational cabal centralized within the city of london.Making Canada a Special Economic Zone.Still not a democracy, still an oligarchy.
>>540664764>Retarded cnn boomers avoid buying american products "to support canada">Buy european and mexican products instead>Vote in the party that has spent the past 6-10 years replacing canadians with cheap jeet labour
>>540679050The City of London took over in 1694
>>540664764i always thought Canada is just legally owned by a few big corporations
>>54067903020+ years of brainwashing and cultural marxism.
>>540665021>source: my ass
>>540678712I agree
>>540679260Most Americans don't think about Canada at all, and don't realize how desperate and evil a place it is.
>>540679050>>540667948>muh London Cabal>muh heckin' ebil literal nazis Found the jew loving boomers. Fuck offWe don't want you here.
>>540679327most mutts are borderline retarded and already think canada is a us territory>north americawhich it is>aka gay russia
>>54067926020? more like 60 years of commie brainwashing that started with Trudeau 1
>>540664764No arguments with most of what you’re saying unfortunately, but did you actually call Doug Ford a “woke provincial leader”?
>2pbtid faggot OPYou dumb fucks...herbs
>>540679718fair enough. but it really accelerated in the 2000s and again in the 2010s. then after covid: full blown gay communism>i first saw the triangle gay/trans flag during the scamdemic and thought it was some kinda virus advisoryi really only consider canada a barely sovereign state durning the 40s, 50s, 60s...burn the leaf, raise the ensign
>>540680077Is this the 2000 Ukraine-bucks note, celebrating getting vanned?
>>540680301yeh i ran out of relevant pics
I don't understand? Why do you Canadians give a fuck? All you do is whine about us all day so why the fuck do you care about what is going on in Canada?
>>540680420b/c it costs me money, kike
>>540664764I disagree that the last election was rigged. Canadian's are just that fucking retarded.Our countryman had 3 years of turd and voted for another liberal because "orange man bad and we can't be like americans".If you are can, you need to leave this country. If you can't leave, you need to move indawoods and get a community going.The future of Canada is a country that is going to break into multiple small countries.
>>540665021Most americans would be surprised to hear that we are in a trade war with you.Thats how little it has affected us.You were always going to lose this.
>>5406805583 terms of turd. my brain is acting fucked again
>>540680555Did that matter to you guys before? Who gives a fuck about Canada whine about the US and Trump like you stupid fucks always do
>>540680729obviously u care ur posting in the thread, concerned shill
>>540680555Did this matter before retard? Decades of ignoring your own country and your issues and whining about the US led you to this. It's too late now. You may as well go back to whining about us all day
>>540680796I never said I didn't care about this thread you retarded low IQ no u'ing Canadian.
>replies twice to the same postokay shill
>>540680796Now that is sound money
>>540680558Greenland; practically no kikes or mutts.
>>540665428Now think about why as corrupt as it is, its actually the best system.Every system is run by the rich, almost by definition.Wealth and power go hand in hand.Never has a rich person lacked power and never has a powerful person lacked wealth.Therefore "democracy" is not meant to actually give decision making power to the public, but rather to manufacture consent through the illusion of control.In matters of the State only two things matter: Liberty and Security.A good government is one that enables the people to live their lives in peace and safety.Democracy is not required.
>>540667260The people running welfare are losing their jobs. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/employment-support-services-income-assistance-government-jobs-layoffs-9.7303356
>>540669105You will never be Canadian. You will be sent back to your feces-covered homeland.
What is the best area in Canada for young ethnic European families?
>>540669500stop asking
the retard is so mad now that he is passive aggressive greentext posting
>>540681312Maritimes are the least jeeted. Until the coof it was jeet free, only started getting them with the advent of LMIA scams.
>>540681312Nowhere; Canada is poison until we subjugate it permanently.
>>540681388Heil Hitler, unfortunately the Maritimes are even gayer and faker than the rest of Canada. For an American: imagine Boston, only more gay, more Jewish, and more evil.
>>540681312Even if you manage to find a white enclave somewhere your kids will be turned into trannies as homeschooling is on the borderline of being criminalized.
>>540681513What do you think about Dominion Society? Have you heard of them?
>>540680558no, it's because poilievre is such an unlikeable, two-faced, lying, pandering, full of shit cocksucker. as such, he's unelectable. he has no good ideas, nothing. we even saw a slew of conservatives crossing the aisle because they're so sick of his faggotrywhy do you choose to live in a fantasy world? you have to actively ignore reality to say these things.
>>540681388Last time I visited rural Nova Scotia the farmers were going gung ho hiring jeets as landscapers while calling local kids lazy. There is no legitimate reason for a hindu to ever step foot in Scots Bay yet there they were. Annapolis valley is well on its way to being jeeted.
>>540681513Yes, the Maritimes also piloted the amazing notion: DON'T GO WALK IN THE WOODS BY YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU WILL CATCH COVID AND WE WILL FINE YOU 250 THOUSAND CANUCK BUCKS
>>540664764>multiple woke Provincial leaders arbitrarily ban the sale of American booze in their provincesHere's the thing, retard.Wether or not you believe it's the right move is irrelevant.Provinces should have full autonomy.Power shouldn't come from the way up (fed > provinces), but from the bottom.If you disagree, you are what's wrong with this shitty country.
>>540681312Canada is basically North Korea but it lets you leave. When you spend a lot of time there as an American, talk to Canadians, see the propaganda in the billboards and TV commercials paid for by the Canadian government and Rogers it really does feel like you are in a dystopian shithole
>>540681569he's a racemixer. Who the fuck would vote for a racemixer?
>>540681467>I went to halifax once with my mommy and my daddy and think that applies to the entirety of four incredibly rural provincesYou wouldn't survive 3 days on Newfoundland burgergoy
>>540675865Ourselves, Europe, etc.EU won't have any industries left after the Ukraine war. (completely energy dependent)
>>540681551If they have attributed a name and face to such a group despite ample hate speech and anti-discriminatory laws in place and the leader is not in prison it is surely a honeypot for young white men.
>>540681654Canada is one of the levels of hell. I wish Dante were alive to add it in to Inferno.
>>540681654gemini admits cbc is a flat out globalist propaganda machine.
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>>540680573>Most americans would be surprised to hear that we are in a trade war with you.ignorance is strength. i wonder why you never hear about it? hmmmm?>Thats how little it has affected ushttps://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-trade-war-is-a-major-economic-and-strategic-blunder/>Trump’s new tariffs are the largest tax hike in nearly 60 years, and a highly regressive one at that. The Budget Lab at Yale projects that Trump’s tariffs announced to date will increase U.S. prices by 2.3 percent in the near term—the equivalent to an average consumer loss of $3,800 per household. Households near the bottom of the income distribution will see a decrease in disposable income that is 2.5 times larger than that experienced by those in the top decile. Other economic analysts have updated their forecasts to predict higher inflation, lower economic growth, and a greater probability of recession this year.>At the grocery store, tariffs on Latin American nations could push up the price of bananas, coffee and chocolate.>Wine imported from Europe could increase by up to 40 percent, putting pressure on importers and small businesses.>Prices for iPhones could increase by up to 40 percent due to the new 46 percent tariffs on Vietnam and 34 percent tariffs on China.Japanese manufacturers of video game consoles have likely already increased prices to preempt Trump’s tariffs—and the 24 percent tariff on Japan could see a $400 console soon cost $500.>According to the American Apparel and Footwear Association, 97 percent of clothing is imported from overseas, including from Vietnam (46 percent tariff) and Bangladesh (37 percent tariff).
Trudeau net worth pre pandemic$10 millionTrudeau net worth post pandemic$350 million + katy perryHe just happened to heavily invest in nanolipid manufacturing used in gene therapy jabs mandated on Canadians.
>>540664764Can we just talk about horoscopes or something? That is more interesting than whatever is going on in canada. Love from an Albertan separatist.
>>540681708Every other Canadian commercial is a commercial ordering you to shop only in Canada owned and made stores and they are always filled with diverse non white people or another commercial reminding you to be a good and loyal Canadian citizen sponsored by either the government or Rogers Internet
>>540681573>Annapolis valley is getting jeetedHeartbreaking. Truly heartbreaking. Grew up around that area, havent been there in nearly 2 decades though. Was an entirely white community apart from the one token nigger family. Immense historical and cultural significance. All to be thrown away because business owners value short term profit over long term social cohesion.
>>540675251Pretty much. Europe is fucked without cheap energy import, and the Strait of "totally under US control" isn't going to be open for the foreseeable future.As a country with an energy surplus, we'll honestly do pretty well if we can get all our ducks in a row.
>>540681814Don't forget the ones reminding you how the liberals are making your groceries more affordable with a 23 dollar a month benefit for canadians who make under 15k a year.You can get like a pack and a half of pepperoni for that, talk about being saved.
>>540681699The leader of Second Sons, a military training ethnic Canadian nationalist group, was charged with 23 criminal complaints across 3 provinces between 2022 and 2024. Basically a big mass targeted action. Every single one of the 23 charges was unsuccessful. All criminal charges against him across all jurisdictions had been stayed, thrown out, or withdrawn.
>>540664764It was really depressing watching Canada shoot itself in the head electing the liberals again after a decade of Trudeau retardation and him going Stalinist putting the trucker protesters in jail and shutting down their bank accounts while he pretended they were nazis.That said, Trump should have kept his fucking mouth shut till after that election. He could have had a Leaf PM who would have been willing to work with him if he'd just shut the fuck up and not given the labour party bullshit to run on.
>>540681878>That said, Trump should have kept his fucking mouth shut till after that election. He could have had a Leaf PM who would have been willing to work with him if he just shut the fuck up and not given the labour party bullshit to run on.No shut the fuck up. If they blame Trump for voting for suicidal political parties and policies then that's their stupid fucking fault for being suicidal and petty. Another politician from another country should not impact your vote because they said mean things this is not normal and they should be mocked for acting this way
>>540681699https://www.youtube.com/@DominionSocThey are doing good activism for Heritage Canadians and the leader is a young guy. Based on some things he said he is clearly not a fed.
>>540681829At least the Cornwallis river cant get any browner.
>>540681983>>540681980
>>540681989to be clear, Dominion Society and Second Sons are two completely separate organizations. The leader of Dominion Society has never been charged with any crimes. However the propaganda machine is full on attacking him.
>>540681682Europe wants to retain its own auto manufacturing. And Canada alone is too small of a market
>>540681983It's not about what Trump said, but what he did.We mostly export to the US, thus tariffs hurt us.Carney's entire selling point was>I'll negotiate so Trump removes them.Nobody cares if Trump calls our PM a faggot.
>>540681983>>540682039I completely agree that they're retards for letting Trump dictate their elections. I'm just saying Trump would have been smart to keep quiet until after their election so he didn't trigger their retard autism.The concept that the party that sold Canada out and imported infinity pajeets was a nationalist party standing up to Trump was ridiculous; but the retards fell for it and if Trump had just stayed quiet those retards wouldn't have come out to fuck themselves and their country at the polling booth.
>>540682182>but what he didDoesn't matter if you vote for a suicidal party to own Trump YOU are the stupid fuck here>We mostly export to the US, thus tariffs hurt us.Are you faggots aware you have tariffs on us that hurt us and lock out almost completely our farming and dairy industry from you?
>>540682236>he didn't trigger their retard autism.It doesn't matter. Look at Canada and the UK. The way these parliamentary governments work the PMs abandon their job when shit gets hard so whoever won would have been shouted out and forced to resign. Canadians are very stupid people who are real life version of that meme where the guy puts a stick in his own bike and blames America for it.
>>540681623that was because of forest fires, not covidhe ended up winning in court, as they said the ban was unreasonable and didn't balance individual rights.in defence of the province, that year was super dry, and 97% of their forest fires are started by humans. there had just been a wildfire outside halifax that was started by a campfire gone out of control. even sparks from a chain dragging from a truck can cause wildfires, or even its exhaust. the province simply didn't have the ability to deal with massive wildfires.at any rate it's not how you're characterizing it
>>540682619Anon, you're speaking to a mutt. He cant read all of that.
>>540682338>Doesn't matter if you vote for a suicidal party to own Trump YOU are the stupid fuck hereAs I've said, it wasn't to "own Trump", but Carney convinced roughly 30% of eligible voters he was the man who could get rid of tariffs. It had nothing to do with Trump beyond the fact Trump is the one who put them in place.>Are you faggots aware you have tariffs on us that hurt usPersonally, I am aware of how our dairy and farming markets operate, if that's your question.
>>540681623You are talking to a Canadian they always deflect and never take blame and whine about America
>>540682839>As I've said, it wasn't to "own Trump"It was. Your entire voting preference was based on what an American was doing AND what you voted for was suicidal and going to destroy your country eventually regardless what orange man does. Your leftists successfully used Trump as propaganda to retain powers and you retards like you bought it and still defend it because you are all sociopaths. Each and everyone of you are a hive collective like the Borg from star trek. I am not talking to you anon, a human being but instead a conduit of the Canadian government and Rogers Internet.>Personally, I am aware of how our dairy and farming markets operate, if that's your question.My point is to show how hypocritical all of you non Americans are when it comes to tariffs. Our tariffs on you bad your tariffs on us that have already been on us for years good. Fuck off subhuman
>>540683025> Each and everyone of you are a hive collectiveAs I've stated, only 30% of eligible voters voted for the liberal party.but okay.>My point is to show how hypocritical all of you non Americans are when it comes to tariffsLike I've said, Carney was elected to negotiate tariffs put onto us.
>>540664764I always knew Canadians were retarded but when the entire country was sick of Trudeau, I thought at least they won't vote liberal again. Surely they know its not just Trudeau making all the decisions, he is just the face. Given that 2016+ is when the country completely failed in all aspects, surely they can realize maybe the liberal party deserves some blame as well. Somehow the worst fucking thing possible keeps happening in this God forsaken country and I don't know what to do anymore. I feel trapped.
>>540683344>lets support the people ideologically different than Trump who caused all our problems and are destroying the country over the people who can work with Trump to get this changed and lets also blame Trump when this all fails instead of ourselves because we are Canadians we NEVER blame ourselves we just deflect to AmericaYea you aren't beating the sociopath conduit allegations.>Like I've said, Carney was elected to negotiate tariffs put onto us.Like I said all you non Americans are hypocritical pieces of shit. Living here and visiting your shitholes really drills home the good thing we have the shit governments you and the Euros have despite all our issues
>>540683521Just do what the other retard is doing in this thread and blame America and Trump for that. Canadians can never take the blame for anything. You know what other group is like that? Dindu nuffin niggers
>>540683594>Yea you aren't beating the sociopath conduit allegations.You have a poor understanding of Canadian politics.>Like I said all you non Americans are hypocritical pieces of shit.I'm simply trying to explain why and how Carney was elected.You keep deflecting like I'm trying to argue with you.Firstly, that's a cope. Secondly, I'm not even arguing, I'm trying to teach you about Canadian politics.But, obviously, you aren't being receptive and mistake my explanations as arguments.
>>540664764You also skipped the part where Trump repeatedly threatened to start a war with Canada and imposed tariffs on Canada - ofc you get a knee jerk reaction after a betrayal like that. Imagine your friend and neighbour literally threatening to kill you and ruin you financiallyCarney winning is obviously Trump's fault>Ib4 4d chess
>>540664764American frens, some of us still love you. I live in Alberta and don't want to separate, I want my country to fix itself (and my whole life would be uprooted and ruined). But I love visiting the USA, you all are so nice, nicer than the "new canadians" we keep bringing inI'm so sad bros
>>540683920Bish. Our province will be better off without canada
>>540664764Trump should have stayed out of the petty attacks on Canada, he helped to make Trudeau and Carney so popular. He should have just went about the business aspect instead of hurling constant personal attacks against Canadians and their leaders.
>>540683779>You have a poor understanding of Canadian politics.They are very simple. Deflect and whine and blame the US for everything. It is nothing more complicated than that.>I'm simply trying to explain why and how Carney was elected.I understand I am just simply showing how you are garbage people in general voting to stop something you do. Maybe you didn't but enough people in your garbage country did. I have been to many sketchy countries all around the world that should hate Americans but Canada is the only place I have felt was openly hostile to me and I have been all around South America, Russia and China
>>540684066Who cares there is no difference between parties here, same as your country.
>>540683850>it's Trump's fault that suicidal Canadians voted for the opposed government that has been destroying them and not the non oppressive government that would be willing to work with Trump to end theseall you non Americans have turned into niggers. "We dindu nuffin it's America's fault we good bois"
>>540684098>I have been to many sketchy countries all around the world that should hate Americans but Canada is the only place I have felt was openly hostile to memaybe you're just a piece of shit? Based on your posts it's entirely plausible.
>>540684240Nah our people are fucking retarded and do what they are told to fit in. For example booing the american national anthem a few months ago.
>>540681805Saturn is beginning his harvest
>>540684314Spooky what does that mean?
>>540681980I kekked
>>540684240>maybe you're just a piece of shit?No because again the people in the other countries were kind and some even fed me for free. Meanwhile you are all sociopaths brainwashed by the government and internet companies and pushed to ignore your jeet invasion and any bad stuff happening and always deflect to the US. Any collapse you have is deserved. You are not a human being you have more in common with an ant or bee.
>>540684002I don't know man. Maybe in 20 years it could be, but that's gonna be a rough 20 years to get there. You almost get the feeling that the who endgame is to separate and then just get annexed by Uncle Sam
>>540684405I think more so of a tree or rock as the intelligence scale for the retards who live here.
>>540664764>>talks tough against Trump instead of negotiating, saying multiple things like "our relationship with the US is permanently over" despite US representing over 70% of our tradeI'm 100% convinced Carney was put in power to deliver the coup de'grace to Canada. And this country is so full to the brim with geriatric retards they cheer it on.
>>540682619> Akshually the government was rightThis is your brain on Canada
>>540684414So do you think a "rough" 20 years building something ours is not going to be worth it? If we don't our other option is hoping for the crumbs and sympathy from the east and I am tired of waiting.
>>540684547rough will be me living in a cardboard box because im functionally retarded and wont be able to find a job
>>540684460I visited Canada as a young teen when Bush's war on terror started and there were Canadian adults afraid of me because of the level of Americans are bad and scary and will kill you propaganda they pushed in the country and probably still do.
>>540667765>Cope post that doesn't counter a single claim directlyThe sooner you boomer fucks are all dead the better
>>540664764I had a BDSM dominatrix fisting my asshole, it felt great - why? I said give it to me 'Canada style', she was all the way in, reach to her ELBOWS UP !
>>540669257>t.Ideologically captured moron
>>540684520>hahaha he doesn't know that being wrong all the time makes me right! looks like i win again!
Reminder that the original demand from Trump that drove retarded liberals insane was an ask to crack down on the Fentanyl pipeline that goes from China to BC to California.
>>540684098>It is nothing more complicated than thatIt is, but you're angry and/or dumb. You don't have to be mad, Anon.
>>540684687the fact thats considered a serious "conservative" politician in canada, truly is hilarious
>>540684611My grandparents visited bc a few years ago. They had oil thrown on their truck because they had Alberta plates on their vehicle. I have worked with Americans before, your people are very pleasant to work with also to be around, our people have alot in common and I feel like the psyop to make Canadians hate Americans worked more so than calling everyone a glowie on here.
>>540684590Income support gets you 750 a month. Can you work with that?
>>540664764>Rigged liberal party electionlollmaopeople actually fucking voted for this.
>>540684821>relying on the government for handoutsngmi
>>540684793I hate visiting BC. So many knobhead hippies there, who are actually quite NASTY if you don't agree with their ways of life and views. So much for a peaceful lifestyle lol.>>540684821I guess I'll live in a van
>>540685066>So many knobhead hippies there, who are actually quite NASTY if you don't agree with their ways of life and viewsThey are funny. They DEMAND you to be TOLERANCE of their views, and if you show any disagreement or INTOLERANCE, then they are INTOLERANT of (You).Their bigotry is conditional, its rather predictable.
>>540684665there seems to be only non-white person in that entire crowd. we can't only blame nons for our situation. we have so many traitors of our own people
>>540684694It isn't. Your entire country is government around how much you can blame us for. We literally are arguing about Trump and you are taking the position of he impacted your election which is my point here>>540684793I have never seen a Canadian who visited here or lived here for an extended amount of time say anything bad but the ones that never come here always despise us. We have more in common with each other than the Euros but your government has done so much damage getting you guys to hate us.
>>540685266*only one non-white person
>>540664764>face down, ass up Canada
>>540685266>we have so many traitors of our own peopleIt was a party at the politicians winning HQ, of course they wouldnt want to dirty it up with any nasty, disgusting CIS white males.
>>540685337My body and mind is ready.
>>540685018Okay blackbeard.
>>540685266To be fair they look like his wife and daughters and the rest are security detail
>>540669105You aren't welcome in the US either, darkie. Best we can offer you is a random US territroy
>>540685286Couldn't agree more. Shame how things are. That is why my only hope is Alberta separating. Canada is lost.
>>540685569>That is why my only hope is Alberta separatingBad news anon.... It ain't happening.
>>540671035>>540671440REEE it's all america's fault. Canada dindu nuffin
>>540685066That was a at least 7+ years ago, I can only imagine it has gotten worse.
>>540685617You better hope not for your sake, especially if you are hidding behind "treaty" rights.
>>540664764You forgot that Trump bent Carney over the negotiating table and told him that the US will be taking half the tolls from the new Gordie Howe bridge before the american side of the bridge Canada paid for is paid off.Elbows up, pants down.
>>540680558This. Canada is a braindrained shithole filled with leftover people.
>>540685699Dawg I hope Canada balkanizes, but lets be real - its owned by a KING, with a Governor General calling the shots - everything else is kabuki distraction. Recall how they controlled the Quebec referendum too... You cannot vote your way out of this dystopic situation.
>>540685066Try living here. The locals are absolute cunts.
>>540685527ok mark carney has 4 kids, all daughters. but what about the young white guys around him that clearly aren't security?
>>540685847also doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the canadian electorate is white
>>540685796A King an ocean away. They are not enforcing shit. The ones in Canada that would they to quell will be pushed back in Alberta by Alberta with or without support from America.
>>540685877>the vast majority of the canadian electorate is whiteBoomers love voting.
>>540664764Canada is an economic zone. Whitoids can fuck off back to Europe
>>540685895>A King an ocean away. They are not enforcing shit.Classic cope. The CROWN owns Canada. Fuck around and have his jackboot enforces stomping on your face, forever.
>>540685286>you are taking the position of he impacted your election which is my point hereI am not. You missed mine.
>>540685991You are not even from Canada, right?
>>540686097Sadly I am 11th generation, dating back before the brits ever even had a claim to this god foresaken shithole Your continued cope is amusing however.
>>540685847Some sort of VIP or staff based on the liberal party lanyards, probably friends of the family.>>540685877The electorally rich districts in Canada are overwhelmingly non-white and or over the age of 60. Contrary to popular belief the majority of white people under 50 have never voted liberal. Quebecers are welfare leeches while the jury is out if they're truly white or not and the maritimes are generationally unemployed drunks. Everywhere else red is non white.
>>540681312Nowhere, really.
>>540686184Being loyal to the crown is pathetic. Clearly an eastern cunt i guess lmao
>>540687419If only we had a king worthy of the crown. Instead we have a traitor whose coronation speech was essentially an abdication in favor of globalist pozzed multicult ideology.
>>540664764the entire west is under the same post ww2 regime. no country or government is "real"
>>540664764"elbows up" is such a stupid saying.
>>540687567Through queen was much better I'll admit. She held the shitstorm together. However the monarch has been nothing but a mistake for Canada.
>>540664764We should just be a nuclear weapon test range. It would still be better than what we are now
>>540664764Just use an AI to make Carney porn dude enough of this
Getting tired of scrolling past the same slur-spam and derail garbage every thread? You're not alone.A lot of people here clearly just want to think through what's happening, not just doomscroll it. Even that's rare thesedays. If you've been thinking about leaving because the signal-to-noise ratio has become unbearable, don't just vanish.Take the interesting people with you. You can keep complaining into the void, or you can move somewhere that still values actual conversation and discovery.If that sounds like what you're looking for: https://cloakbin.com/N_mK_s1o#JxH_Ymb1ZKLI3yQKzeLpOVCEgltUN_g6_4uMSXLxm34No pressure. Just an option if you want somewhere quieter.The people who talked a big game about resistance quietly cashed out and left the rest of us holding the bag. What's left is mostly noise and people who just want to fight or exhaust you.Remember why you came here in the first place. Not to watch the same arguments repeat forever. Not to fight spam. You came here because you wanted to find things you couldn't find anywhere else.I felt the same way, couldn't find a place like that, so I made one.If you actually want to talk, learn, share information and explore ideas without everything being drowned out by noise, come over.Don't fade into the noiseDon't let the noise chase you off the internet.Investigate. Ask questions. Make up your own theory. That's the whole point
