https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hospitals-upfront-payments-rising-deductibles/
>>540679568absolutely especially in the case of niggers or mexicans who never pay their bill
>>540679568>Pay initial price >Later, unforeseen complication / cost>Have to pay that then too>Can't >Go to a different hospital and or come back later>Have to pay the initial cost plus additional costThe only field to have consistently grown is the medical field, and that's because it's fraud.
>>540679701if you require money up front, it will cause the consumers to think a bit more before engaging... price will fall down to sane levels
>>540679827Saline costs 1 dollar to make, and can cost upwards of 100. It's fraud. All insurance is a racket.
>>540679827>price will fall down to sane levelsIf COVID and the post-Trump tariff world has taught consumers anything, it's that's bullshit. Corporations have no incentive to lower prices ever in a world built on debt.
>>540679568I mean hookers do, hookers in whitecoats are still hookers
>>540679884You think I'm keeping people alive for free nigger? lmao.
>>540679568Healthcare is a privilege not a right. That said, if you can't afford insurance or out of pocket payments you will qualify for Medicare.
>>540680159Statically, people in the medical industry are more likely to be narcissists. So, I know you're most likely in the industry for vanity reasons, not humanitarian.
when the hospitals are unable to contribute to their oligarchs based on the hedgeromonious fees the end output is definitely the user; guarantees
“Hospitals push for upfront payments [from niggers and illegals] as patient deductibles and out of pocket costs rise.” FTFY
>>540679568Maybe reduce those inflated prices which are only so high because it's all a money laundering scam with the insurance companies.
>>540679827You’re fucking retarded, miggers and lolberts don’t understand inelastic demand and analyze essential services as if they were abstract transactions completely equivalent to the purchase of a bag of chips (they’re not). People don’t shop around for the best deal for a few days before going to the ER. They pick the nearest place.
>2026>still don't have a functioning healthcare system>fuck over men who 'make too much'>jeet doctors everywhere
>>540679827We need to just start shooting you niggers already.
>>540680745> just reduce prices broHow exactly? > just… just do it okay! Not an answer> but it’s a scam so they just should!I agree with you but that’s a complaint, not a solution> do it or else the goyim will rise up and fedpost!You won’t do shit> do it by decree!We don’t have price fixing, we’re not communists. And price fixing by fiat just doesn’t work.
>>540679568no
Do you guys realize the us government, which is a cabal of gays, is waging a brutal war in ukraine?
>hurr durr abyone can get healthcare in the McStates of America just dont pay your hospital billlmao get fucked mutts
>>540679827The American healthcare market isn’t free at all. You’re locked into a plan for an entire year, and you can only sign up for it once a year. There are only a handful of insurers, and you usually don’t get a choice of which provider you want, it’s entirely dependent on what your employer decides to give you as a benefit. You’re also obligated to pay for the insurance for the full duration of the year while insurers can play grabass with whatever they want.You’re free to “shop around”, but your degree of freedom exist in the same sense that a peasant is free to “shop around” for the nicest and most generous lord of the land.
No. Run a business based on the livelihood of your customer, you have to take the risk. Businesses have to assume risk. There's a difference between minimizing risk and putting all of the risks on their potential clients. The reason things are like this is because hospitals pay for their huge overhead and want to charge your insurance as much as possible. Your insurance is wise to this and that's why they deny things. The assumption is what makes people not get the care they need. It's two giant corporate entities defrauding each other for your different payment modalities. Most of you on here are too fucking retarded to understand the complexity of business. Inb4 "muh I'm a fag who is Gon' whine about reddit spacings" and free market trannies.
>>540679568How do they request up front payment when the hospital can't even tell you what the final bill will be? If you ask them up front you get all this hemming and hawing about oh they have to send it to insurance first and there could be unforseen charges and they don't know and can't guarantee anything and blahblahblah. Effectively you don't know what anything medical actually cost until 6 months after the procedure when they've gone back and forth with the insurance company. This is despite them being required to post a price list, but they just don't and nobody ever enforces it in this nigger country
>>540680965Got to do something.
>>540681240>You’re locked into a plan for an entire year, and you can only sign up for it once a year.Uhh yeah that's how all insurance works. It's all for a fixed term. Otherwise people wouldn't pay for insurance until they need it, then they'd sign up.
>>540679568This is the norm in Australia
>>540680269It's a right as much as water is. You want people to stimulate your economy and participate in this zero-sum game. You want them to be tax cattle and corporate fee cattle. Fucking pay for it.
>>540681302I agree but what? Markets respond to incentives and the entire point of government is to engineer those incentives to steer free market outcomes in the interest of their constituents. Our governments seem to have no interest in this.
>>540679568Yes, if they are private clinics. And I woud rather go there and just hand over my CC than go to public clinics where gypsy clans have picnics in the waiting areas.
>>540681412Wrong.>If you have treatment as a public patient at a public hospital you do not pay anything for your medical treatments.https://www.health.gov.au/topics/private-health-insurance/what-private-health-insurance-covers/out-of-pocket-costs
Healthcare would probably be cheaper if not a single executive made more than $500k a year and every one that did get paid more was shot in the back of the head. There I just saved the system hundreds of millions right there
>>540680843Muslim niggers vs other niggers?
>>540679568Do you fat third world retards have to pay to go to hospital lmao that can't be real. Why are you cunts so dumb
>>540680843Reality though, anybody who calls anyone miggeris BROWN and low iq.
>>540682644Technically no, if it's an emergency they are required to evaluate and stabilize a patient regardless of legal status or proof of insurance. But if it's not an emergency they're within their rights to request a payment upfront or proof of insurance.
>>540683290That's third world tier shit you fat fuck
>>540683290>Technically no, if it's an emergency they are required to evaluate and stabilize a patient regardless of legal status or proof of insurance.But you still have to pay for it afterwards, and if you can't, you go into cripplng debt.>>540683621It's worse than that.
>>540679568This has to be a lie, the hospital's main business is making up random bills AFTER you get help, they refuse to give you even an estimate of what it will cost, their business model is obfuscation, collusion with insurance.
>>540679568once they get your money they will just take your temperature and blood pressure tell you there is nothing wrong with you and accuse you of drug seeking. literally what happened when I went to zoomcare.
>>540684202Sue them for malpractice
>>540679568it used to be that way before health "insurance" was invented
>>540679568>Hospitals telling you up front what the cost will beLOL wut they need plenty of time to calculate all the bullshit in with your implicit consent and inability to dispute it.Besides how would this work for people who are unconscious or delirious when they arrive?Won't happen. Interferes with the normal capitalistic process.
>>540679568EMTALA.It's the law of the land.
>>540679568No, but It’s inevitable because the system is untenable as it is. Extreme amounts of greed and an older population being taken care of by less and more overworked staff will result in hospitals nickel and diming patients to survive. Healthcare standards will continue to fall.>>540679827>Will cause consumer to think before engaging No, it will just result in people with actual problems delaying cars until it becomes and emergency. We’ve seen this time and again
>>540679827Anyone who calls hospital patients consumers should be taken out back and shot
>>540679633this is what it is really aboutthey just won't come out and say it
Upfront payments only allow them to pad the final bill.
>>540684202What state? Some states allow you to appeal and give you the right to speak to a patient advocate
>>540681394He means that there is a specific 2 month long window during the year where its possible to buy insurance and an individual. If you want to buy your own insurance plan during any of the other 10 months out of the years, its actually impossible. If you lose your job in march and want to get your own insurance plan to cover your bases, you have to go without insurance until November to buy a plan that won't actually start covering you until January.
Moving away from the Christian system are we? Time to bring back pagan healthcare.
>>540687742what'sa matter jabbydon't like being reminded of reality?
>>540679568Only if i can collect the malpractice insurance before the doctor speaks.
>>540679568Sure you can talk to my insurance adjudicator. Pic rel.
Medical care is the only industry I genuinely and 100% think should be completely socialized. Medical personnel should have their salaries EXCLUSIVELY justified through measurements of the health of the populace they serve>But it will be le gamedSo will anything bitch, the current jew system is exactly why western medicine is fucking worthless beyond direct and immediate life threatening care (EMT) or surgery
>>540679568they already do in india.
>>540687808It is impossible to have a society when you have niggers free to run rampant. It is impossible. There is no way to resolve the contradiction because niggers have no sense of responsibility for this civilization which isn't even theirs anyway. They don't even treat their own stuff well, let alone white peoples' stuff. We are just going to get scammed and cheated forever until we put our foot down and get rid of them or else until we run out of resources and die
>>540691146If he's found not guilty or the case is thrown out as a mistrial I hope 1000 more of him stand up and every CEO thinks twice about fucking over their customers.
>>540690969No, I just despise Jewishness and turning all of society in an economic zone
>>540679568this would affect my burdenmaxxing arc
