When will the west stop with this shit? It was not intentional.
>>540681970Jews starving to death because the supply lines were bombed was not intentional either.
>>540681970>Ahh communists didnt murder them! They just starved them all, get it right!
It was suppressed by the FDR administration
>>540681970It was obviously intentional just like what Trump is doing to the US right now
funniest thing about eastern europe is that there would be a billion of them if not for the over 100 million excess deaths in the 20th century for no reasonA jeetland sized russia
>>540682104Is that why the west cannot shut up about it?>>540682055The difference is that the Soviet archives were opened while the Nazi ones were burned
Everyone knows jews did this on purpose (and they will do it again when this war ends)
>>540682162Lmao I bet you think the Holocaust actually happened
>>540682137I despise the soviet jewnion and every soul that celebrates it and the victory FDR handed them, but vodka smells better than curry and cowshit.
>>540682055Lying to everyone about how many died was, though.
>>5406819706 million (speculative)vs90 MILLIONS UKRANIANSYOU FUCKING GENOCIDED THEMAND THEN YOU DID IT TO GAZA BECAUSE THAT WASN'T ENOUGH
>>540682162fuck off mohel, you can't win here
>>540681970>retarded ideology>retarded outcome>somehow unintentionalGo be a fag somewhere else. You're a fucking moron.
>>540682203Between the two it is more probable. I don't know though. I know that Slavs were holocausted in Barbarossa, but jews? No idea. I think Germans and jews have so much in common that if Hitler ordered Germans to gas jews, the Germans would refuse.
>>540682273Which ideology are you talking about? Your government seems pretty retarded to me
>>540682298Holodomor narrative is just so blatantly false that it is insulting. The numbers keep increasing one million per year, and everyone ignores the archives, everyone speculates, etc.It is the most blatant disinformation campaign ever conducted. Only the lowest IQ niggers believe one year that the death count was 10 million and then their thoughts get "updated" yo 40 milliom after some Azovite scum says so because he feels like it.
>>540682356Your government created Tatu and then when everyone here liked it you called us gayDumbass nigger faggot country
>>540682479What the fuck is tatu
>>540682576Are you actually a zoomer that works for the Russian government or are you just dumbDo you need 25 cents for your monthly expenses?
>>540682472It was 11 million now
>>540682647What makes you think I work for the Russian government. What gave you that impression? Did I like say something wrong? Can you please tell me what I should say next time to not give this false impression on people?
>>540682356Not retarded enough to unintentionally starve a huge chunk of the population. Death by retarded bureaucracy is usually the hallmark of leftist retards running a country.
>>540682647odds are that he is all of the above
>>540682729Your government is totalitarian which is cool in theory but means by default you can't tell the truth. You're not a broken person though! We can get it out of you
>>540681970stalin ate all of the grain then paid the clouds to not rain
When we liberated Ukraine they wanted nothing to do anymore with Russians and especially not Jew slave Soviet Russians. When we capitulated to the west Ukraine had another revolution with the goal of real independence.Soviet Russians invaded them to be part of the union they never wanted it.Central Asia fought for their independence too against Soviet Russians.Especially Stalin had a hate boner against all people which were anti Soviet, his goal was industrialisation and Russia had no technology for it they imported all the machinery from the USA and Germany and they paid for it with food, when words came around that starvation was happening there Stalin doubled down and exported even more food.Russians had plenty of food especially in cities while Ukrainian and central Asians were punished for not being loyal puppets with starvation. He wanted to starve all resistance out.
>>540683066You didn't even want to give Ukraine their own state lol. Ukies got cucked hard by Germans and when they realized their mistake they rose up against Germans
>>540681970>iT waSnT rEaL jUdaIsM
>>540683215Real judaism is found in USA and Ukraine, not Russia
>>540682162>the Soviet archives were opened while the Nazi ones were burnedGuess which one was the ally of the west.
>>540683256Its insane how stupid you are, It hurts
>>540681970when will jews stop crying about the holobunga (it actually happened, herr v-mann I truly believe that thank you please leave me alone)
>>540683423You are literally circumcised
>>540683477Are you comparing Ukrainians and westerners to jews?
>>540682055this
>>540683497I'm not but to be fair I don't even have a penis. You are not circumcised though and you are this stupid anyway
>>540681970Ukraine is Israel of Europe.
>>540683378Only because FDR was in charge. Literally the only president of USA that wasn't a seething Russophobe (him and Lincoln I think)
>>540683525yeah sure why noti hate both equally as much
>>540683560You actually write like a woman. At first I thought you are trannie.Russian Federation is not totalitarian.
>>540681970It was intentionalIt as a hunger strikeThey chose to starve
>>540681970the communist Jews starved Ukrainians to death on purpose
>>540683256>>540683423You are both right.
>>540683859Never forgetti the 20 million hohols that died in the 3 holodomors
>>540681970goy are always starving to death they really are that stupid
>>540683939Like I said, insulting
>>540682055They were burned by the Kulaks but I agree in spirit.
>>540683780>You actually write like a woman.Most men I interact with can tell I am female before I tell them.Just kidding. They really can't. AI can't seem to help them with this either.
>wall off and isolate a large area>search and destroy any food inside that area>sabotage any attempts to create food inside that area>prevent the people inside that area from leaving>utilize military force to suppress any uprisingOddly resembles what is happening in gaza but the holodomor was perpetuated by the bolsheviks. The survivors ate hay, dirt, and horse poop.
>>540683497No, that guys right, you're a fucking moron, literally as thick as shit. Whether you're shilling, trolling, or simply dumb as a fucking post is irrelevant - stop shitting up an already dogshit board with your fucking faggotry you dopey fucking cunt.
>>540684493>Muh BolsheviksEvery accusation is a confession
>>540682162https://holocaustsummit.com/
>>540684619No, I will keep posting my opinions until they become the majority
>>540681970citizen vigilante - remove kebabhttp://rumble.com/v7bw4ti--viewer-discretion-is-strongly-advised-citizen-vigilante-full-movie.htmlfree link
>>540681970>Russia does crime against humanity>"It was accident! It wasn't meant! Western propaganda!">West advocates for democracy in Russia's periphery>"EVIL WESTERN PIG DOG WANTS TO KILL RUSSIA!"
>>540681970>7 millionLol they use this number because hohols want to look more oppressed than Jews. Truth is maybe 1-2 million people starved in a natural famine that affected more Russians than Ukrainians. Hohols made up the Holodomor mythology in the 1950s and 60s under CIA tutelage and even chose the name to make it sound like "holocaust."
>>540684848If those places get fixed properly then they will be less likely to be sold to the jews who are financially hindering any attempts at fixing them.
>>540681970After the fist million and the first time it fails you don't get to go oops we didn't know. It was doctrinal and used to exterminate the middle class as is fundamental to establishing communism in the long term. Just look to Alinsky's 8 steps for reference.
>>540684848I just found out today that apparently in Ukrainian schools they teach three holodomors ...
>>540681970Communism is kikery and neither has a word for accountability for themselves. They and their fictional god state are not allowed to be wrong.
>>540681970fuck off kike
>>540681970>It was not intentional.THAT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE, YOU IDIOT.
>>540685184What ethnicity is Zelensky which teaches Ukrainians in schools that they had THREE holodomors?
>>540685216How? The blame falls on communist theory, not on the officials in the Soviet government
>>540682298The holocaust is incredibly improbable. Communists starving millions has happened four times in the last century
>least obvious zigger shill
>>540685284I don't know anything about holocaust, but killing 6 million people is more probable than killing 5 million people which then turns into 10 million people, then 20 milliona and now they are saying there were three holodomors
>>540681970of course it wasnt intentional russians starve all the time
>>540682162>the Nazi ones were burned(((who))) exactly was burning Nazi documents and literature?
>>540685440Them
>>540685413pic reljews are not people
>>540681970>It was not intentionalIt was very intentional. Read about the Jewish NKVD
>>540681970>criminal negligence isn't a thingI guess the question is, if you as the leaders of a country make a really retarded decision at the expense of your peoples comfort (5 year plan) and it inadvertently kills 20-40 million people (all over the USSR, INCLUDING the Ukraine), are you responsible?The answer is: yes you fucking are. Biblically. Eye for an eye.One could say that the poos flooding and ruining the former commonwealth countries is a fitting revenge for what Churchill did to India before and during WW2 with organized famine. T-a white guy in Saskatchewan who is too bitter to cry about what's happened to this once greatest of nations.
>>540685482nazis didnt burn any of their documents and you can see documents of prisoners who died in aushwitz in its museum
>>540685494They keep it consistent. Which is why it is more believable.
>>540685534biblically there's a New Testament where they patched the code of Hammurabi
>>540685482I don't believe you believe that, rabbi.
>>540685413The official holocaust number is 11 million. 6 mill is jews, of which there weren't that many in europe. There have never been mass graves of holocaust victims found. There have been mass graves of soviet atrocities found. The amount of fuel needed to reduce to ash the bodies of the claimed numbers dwarfs the amount of fuel being used on the war effort. Despite 11 million bodies worth of bones being turned to dust and blown away on the wind nazi bone crushing equipment (which is standard in peroid and modern crematories) has never been found.The holocaust is an obvious lie. Communists mass murdering workers is as common as bees collecting pollen.
>>540685534You mean 5 million? The total death count of the USSR was at around 16 million and Stalin barely killed more than Lenin and yet he is the biggest vilain
>>540683859
>>540685657How common is it that the number of deaths doubles after some atrocity already happens?
>>540681970It never happened, but it should have.
>>540685707Honestly? Very. The holocaust number has been revised multiple times as well. Hell aushwitz has had their official death numbers revised at least 5 times.
>>540685657I am pleasantly surprised that American even knows abput non jewish holocaust victims, but if you count them, it is higher I think, since Russian government claims 6 million ethnic Russians as well. But like I said, holocaust being real or not doesn't really change my opinion on things
>noooo stop taking attention away from the holocaust
>>540685596not reallyyou keep talking bullshit untill it sticks and then use your connections in government media and justice department to silence anyone proving you lied
>>540685802That'd make the total numbers 17 million. The offical story is 6 million jews, 5 million "undesireables" (mainly homosexuals and the crippled). Adding 6 million russians is another revision upward. And you find this shit believable?
>>540681970https://holocaustsummit.com/
>>540685879Wait, who are you talking about now, Zelensky and Holodomor or Holocaust?
>>540685802>holocaust being real or notits not it was complete bullshit and jews started and were the biggest benefitor of both world wars
>>540685902It is not a revision, it is what Russian government claimed from day 1, but west doesn't. On the other hand, Russia never acknowledged Holodomor, but Ukraine keeps raising the number on their end.
>>540685802>non jewish holocaust victimsYou might want to look up what "holocaust" refers to, pidor.
>>540685978Actually, WWI was pretty good for SlavsGot rid of subhuman Austro-Hungarian regime and established Yugoslavia
>>540685934holocaust of courseholodomor was well documented same as other starvations done by soviets there was plenty of corpses in the case of holocaust theres just lots of jewish lies about all the evidence dissapearing into thin air
>>540686005That's not true. The holocaust more or less became a talking point for the soviets in the 1960s. The six million russians is not part of the original story, nor is it claimed or supported by the camps or evidence. It's a revision.
>>540686060How is it well documented if>no order by Stalin ever found>death toll rises by one million each yearHow is that well documented?
>>540681970OH NOW THEY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE REAL HOLOCAUST, AND REALLY?! MUH UKRAINIANS?! 7 MILLION?! HA! ROOKIE NUMBERS! KEEP EXPLORING EAST, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO SKYROCKET BEFORE YOU REACH RUSSIA.
>>540686051so why dont we control the banks international organizations and have a special elite term like antisemitism to fend off all the ciriticism?why is there so much documents of poles dying from nazi hands while jews were sent to palestine to start shit there or kept safely in ghettos away from goyim and war with their own hierarchy system?
>>540685672I'm not looking for my sources, but my understanding is that between 1920 and 1940, BETWEEN the wars, 20-40 million people died of famine and purges, kulaks serfs and the gulags..If you include from 1917 to 1920, and 1940 to 1946, those numbers jump to 60-100 million.Stalin purging the military and making really stupid treaties with Hitler (who openly hated communists) is why 26 million commies died to get back what the Germans took.
>>540686112Just because it became a talking point doesn't mean that they changed their opinion. By your logic, USSR denied the holocaust until 1960.Talking points are irrelevant. Victory day celebrations were never as big under USSR than they are now under Putin, that doesn't mean that the war wasn't important to the government.
>>540686136Those are some very interesting questions you should apply to the holocaust.
>>540686217The Soviet archives say 5 million from holodomor, 1 million from purges and 3 million from dekulakization
>>540686278Why should I if the holocaust being real or not does not change my opinions on anything
>>540685220Pretty sure you know the answer to that
>>540686240>just because it was a talking point in the 1960s doesn't mean it wasn't claimed in the 1940s!It does, as that claim does not appear in the original documentation. It is a revisionary claim.
>>540686136soviets started agricultural reforms based on reddistribution of wealth(food) and suddenly everyone was dying from starvation with videographic evidence capturing whole processmeanwhile picture you just replied to refutes holocaust bullshit that also was never consistent on casualty numbers (not to mention none of them ever made any sense and about 300-700 000 of jews died during ww2 mostly fighting for soviet union
>>540686170We could, if we didn't keep sabotaging each other. We already have an excellent term like Russophobia which is like our antisemitsim. But every time we try to use it, it is some Polish guy who chimps out and ruins it.
>>540686327>but what if the basis of modern societal realtions is an abject lie? That won't cause me to update my priors.Then, my friend, you are an idiot
>>540682262anything rhat happens to muslims is just.
>>540685220>What ethnicity is Zelensky which teaches Ukrainians in schools that they had THREE holodomors?Another extremely intelligent post.
>>540686404It is the basis for America, which I don't care about. Our holocaust education is one page in a history book and it focuses mainly on gypsies and slavs since those are the people we have. (We don't have jews)
>>540686389so show us american laws against russophobia and boycoting of anything russian you jewish retard
>>540686352Nobody denies that famine happened. Russian government just says that the famine is a result of communist theory failure, while also acknowledging that the central government of the Soviet Union was patriotic and would never intentionally starve Ukrainians.
>>540686473Where do you think all the race and gay stuff comes from? Where do you think the pro muslim stuff comes from?(muslims claim millions of holocaust victims as well.) Modern politics draws entirely from that well.
>>540686544We could have them if some people didn't keep getting in the way.
>>540686602It comes from you. Americans were gay before the jews ever told them to be gayFuck you have some facsists like Rohm and Moseley who were open advocates of homosexuality
>>540686701You should do some reading. The jews have been pro-homo since at least the dark ages.
>>540686602Also I don't need to know that holocaust is not real to not be a homosexual, what is this reasoning
>>540686597its normal for kremlin to starve everyone but moscow they did intentionally starve ukrainians to avoid starving themselves but not only ukrainians were starved that is correctmany russians were also starved in some regionsit was either done by jews in russian government to kill goyim or was a simple result of communist retardation
>>540686764Only exclusively the latter. Russian government would never do that.
>>540681970Why do communists repeated starve people to death? How do other forms of governance avoid mass starvations?
>>540686647nope we couldnt because russians dont control the banks and arent biggest criminal group that ever existedyou are just a bigger north korea with more resources who tries to act like elementary school bully and thinks it's going to work out forever while he slides into poverty and irrelevance
>>540686871Banking isn't Russia's thing, but we could control media and education. They are quite good at that
>>540681970Propaganda weapon to stir up anti-Russian hatred. Absolute simple as. There was no holodomor or targeted famine. There were famines in Ukraine, Russia and Kazakhstan so how the fuck does that work then?
>>540686799it wasnt russian it was judeocommunist international
>>540686980Which language did they speak? What was the ethnicity of the people who fought for them (twice)?
>>540682137single best argument for stalinism desu
>>540686914they promote racemixing on their national tv while pretending jewish obvious lies about holocaust are legit and that jews would never kill goyimyou are just being silly you judeorussian troll
>>540687024are we british mate?
>>540687102>judeorussianMeds shizo
>>540687129No, but we are becoming culturally more and more americanized because of the language too. And you ignored the second part.
>>540686296Now do the holocaust.Tldr: bolsheviks are kikes, and they love the paper trail to say what they say it says.
>>540682239The nazis and the red cross both agree the number was roughly 175kThe jews claim it was the same made up religious figure they always use that isnt at all supported by pre-war population statistics.
>>540686327Exhibit one
>>540687195Dan Bilzerian is JEWISH bro. And not a fake jew like Sephardic. An actual askhenazi jew
>>540687141so why do you behave simultenously like jewish and russian troll?are you one of those and trying to pretend you are the other one?or are you just judeorussian
>>540687238So you are saying that I should trust America over the USSR? Why?
>>540681970
>>540687257There is nothing jewish about Russian Federation
>>540687192we are talking british language and in both wars britain was fighting for our independence from germansare we british?
>>540687338No, but we are culturally American. Or you are rather. You Poles.
>>540681970The Holodomor is ONLY one small facet of the genocides committed by jews. This doesn't even count the wars orchestrated by jews.
>>540682162Who did the burning moshe?
>>540687326sadly you didnt ask russian god emperor about it
>There is nothing jewish about Russian Federation
>>540687382so its just double standards like always with you judeorussians
>>540681970>>540687393>Leather-Jacketed Coke-Snorting Jews in the Soviet Secret Police Torturing, Raping and Killing Gentiles: The Evidencehttps://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/03/09/leather-jacketed-coke-snorting-jews-in-the-soviet-secret-police-torturing-raping-and-killing-gentiles-the-evidence/
>>540686597
>>540687249Not all jews are kikes, but all kikes are jews. And you're just a slave for the kikes.
>>540687291Take your strawman bullshit and boost up, botfarm retard.
>>540681970The exploitation of historical events for propaganda has reached painfully cringe levels. And always, ALWAYS it's of course a moralistic attempt to overwhelm rationality with dumb feelings. This insufferable moralfagging only makes me more inclined to support the other side.
Why is it that I don't believe OP?
>>540681970THE REALMASSACRE
>>540681970So your argument is just that communists are incompetent morons?Thats not better.
>>540687480>/leather-jacketed-coke-snorting-jews-in-the-soviet-secret-police-torturing-raping-and-killing-gentilesuuummm based??
Where this thread came from and why there are so many butthurt ukkies here? Who gives a fuck about them? They are literally dying like flies for years, flee to America and get stabbed by feral nogs and everybody laugh at them. Why everyone is pretending to care? Is it because le big bad communism? Ukraine is not even a country anymore thanks to the NATO bait America made them bite.If communism starved Ukrainians, NATO and it's allies buried the rest of the country for good.
>>540681970oy vey, it was an accident.
>>540684493Don't forget the widespread cannibalism.
>>540681970Best part is the meme started by the west hohols fleeing to europe. But the ones who were actually suffering the actual famine were donbas russians at the hands of the kievan bolshevik jew.
>>540681970The jews will trot out the Holodomor they carried out if they can blame Russians for it
>>540682239The newspapers mentioned 6million holocosted years before the war even began
I don't think it was intentional Commies are just that dumb
>>540681970Funny how the mostly jewish soviet administration starved millions of Christians to death. What a coincidence.
>>540681970>It was not intentional.IT literally was.Stalin himself admitted it
>>540682472>one non academic schizo lies that means it didnt happen and you can ignore the countless academic data
Because decentralized food production is better than monoculture.holodomor was caused by monoculture, not necessarily communism.It is important for people to hold the line against even seemingly benvelovent state.like vavilov did
