US-Japan plan to mine rare-earth-rich mud 6 km deep near Japans Minamitorishima island (in its EEZ). Estimates claim >16 Mt total REEs (yttrium for 780 years global demand, plus dysprosium etc), low radioactivity. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/08/13/japan/us-japan-undersea-mine-china/Goal is to cut Chinas +90% supply grip via a "mine-to-magnet" chain and finally allow USA and Japan to grow their weapon production that so far is cock-blocked by China xDIts mostly a fairy tale now: extreme 600-atm pressure makes it the deepest proposed mine ever - no commercial deep-sea mining exists after decades of efforts. Costs could be +3x Chinese land mining, totaling billions over >10 years. Scale-up from tiny tests to profitable volumes is unproven, plus processing hurdles. Mining rare-earth mud is mainly a logistics and engineering challenge: scooping sediment and pumping it up. The real bottleneck is refining. Rare-earth elements (lanthanides) have nearly identical chemical properties due to similar ionic radii and electron configurations. Separating them requires dozens of sequential solvent-extraction stages, precise pH control and specialized reagents - processes that are energy-intensive, chemically complex. China controls +90 % of global refining capacity through decades of scale, optimized solvent systems and integrated industrial infrastructure. Japan and the US possess mining tech and some separation know-how, yet lack comparable industrial-scale refining plants, trained workforce, and cost-efficient chemical supply chains. Consequently, even if ore is extracted, nearly all intermediate oxides and metals still flow through Chinese facilities. xDFinally, PLA Navy regularly operates near Japans EEZ (including prior entries during Minamitorishima surveys). Large surface fleet, advanced submarines and long-range anti-ship missiles enable persistent surveillance, shadowing, or harassment of survey/mining vessels without open conflict. xD
>>540706255@grok Put that hag in a bunny girl outfit
>>540706255China is losing
>>540706826Marxism-Leninism must win in the end. You better find some old marxist books in your grandparents drawers and try to read them with at least partial understanding xD
>>540706255Finding RE's is not hard. Its the process that separating RE's from other minerals and material that's hard. Also mining from sea is kinda stupid.
>>540707043Thats exactly what i wrote in my post. Thx for the summary xD
Japs are useless nowadaysThey are just an Asian version of Disneyland now
Am I the only anon who finds the Jap woman really sexy?
>>540706962>Marxism-Leninismjewish ideology for rural sub 80IQ peasantschina is falling behind
>>540707122Japanese girls use to be extremely pretty (same with Korean ones) but this new Japanese PM femoid is uglier than my ass xD
>>540707134This is pure arithmetic from reported figures, you dumb inferior GeeDeePee-worshipping Pollock. The drop stems mainly from a stronger USD and Chinese deflation (prices falling while US had inflation). Nominal GDP is a fiat/exchange-rate construct. It fluctuates with currency values and does not measure physical industrial output. China far leads in real manufacturing value-added, steel, electricity, ships, electronics, drones, weapon, robotics and many high-tech goods. PPP GDP already exceeds the US. The graph accurately tracks abstract nominal metric but it does not disprove Chinas industrial scale and edge that constantly grows compared to the West
Xi Jinping fears Sanae Takaichi.So China cannot do anything.
>>540707406chinkshit copeis reality china is poorer than Kazahstan or Mexico
>>540707581Thats probably Westoids import so many jeets lately because they want their GeeDeePees to go up this way too xD
>>540707872why is china a poor shithole?
>>540706573Enough with the trump slop
>>540707939Collect some cebulions, travel to China and stop being such a moron xD
>>540708163I've been in china and taiwanChina is as developed as Albania
>>540708286Liar xD
>>540708302China is a 2nd world shitshole
>>540708415Right after visiting major Chinese cities and Chinese rural province, go to your "allied" USrael and visit its major cities and rustbelt rural regions. I guarantee you gonna puke in the latter xD
>>540706255i wanna fuck that GILF hard as i can, her legs spread wide out flat like some super talented gymnast, just railing her with those massive ultra hard nipples of hers almost hitting me in the face
>>540709056is visited NY chicago LA vermont texas flordia Utah nevada America is like paradise compared to China
>>540709191You are a fkn liar and troll. Go fuck yourself xD
>>540709219you never been outside of russia
>>540706255Im 100% next administration will introduce better engineers from the "I see doctors, lawyers, engineers" group, which will speed up getting the funds process.
>>540706255Also in the four decades of developing this refinement tech, there are some 'dark arts' just like extreme ultraviolet litho hehe(source: Texas A&M researcher working on this stuff told me)
>>540711768Chinese rare-earth refining patents and process know-how rank ASML-EUV tier: decades of optimized solvent extraction, reagent systems and impurity control form tightly held industrial secrets.
>>540709356With extremely lower living costs and mass production, a larger share of Chinese households can buy an EV relative to income than Swiss buyers facing higher local markups despite Switzerlands super-higher GDP/capita. Production, R&D, industry is what matters, not your fkn Jewish Wall-Street monopoly money. BTW, FED uses Chinese printers to print dollar too xDThe power is Marxism-Leninism, discipline, industry, R&D, technology, robotics. Thats the real power. Your gender studies, temporary hedonistic farting, puberty blockers, abortion kits, womens rights and public support for synagogues and catholic church is not a power. It is a handicap xD
>>540706826Ukraine is winning.
>>540706255Theyve been saying that for a decade already, since the first time China withheld REE from them. Theyve extracted 0 so far, because undersea mining is difficult is assrapingly expensive. And they still have no refining capability.
>>540706255Like everything else slopulists touch, it will be a boondoggle.
>>540706255> 6 km deepI don't believe that will be realized anytime soon.
>>540706255Any chinesium among the rare earths there?
>>540714297Nearly all rare-earth elements were discovered by European scientists in the 18th-19th centuries. There is not much to discover anymore.
>>540715029Wrong, plenty more out there, in specially secluded areas, which I shalln't mention.
>>540715221If there are any undiscovered REEs yet, i am sure European scientists are already in the very middle of discovering them, adviced by the MAGA science-power xD
>>540715430>MFW "aliens" have access to "alien" elementsbnot even listed on human periodic table and plant them for humanoid "scientists" to discover like some kinda dinosaur fossils.All in due time...all in due time.LoL its a strange universe my fren, very strange universe.
>>540715636These cheap AI-generated "alien disclosure" psyop footages organized by DoD (or DoW, kek) literally few days after the end of mass modRNA/LNP poisoning campaign of "useless eaters" in the West, is just a classic noosphere-manipulating technique whose main goal is to divert attention of deadly poisoned Mutts from data centers bringing a post-human totalitarian order in the bankrupt/deindustrialized West and to focus it on the fictional/Hollywood-tier stuff instead. I even know few DoD (or DoW, pfff buahaha) people personally who could testify that this judeomurrican "UFO-is-real" post-2022 hutzpah is basically a deliberate manipulation of cognitive abilities of the useless/culled biomass xD
>>540706255>extreme 600-atm pressure makes it the deepest proposed mine everIn January 2013, a deep-sea research vessel of the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology obtained seven deep-sea mud core samples from the seafloor at 5,600 to 5,800 m (18,400 to 19,000 ft) depth, about 250 km (130 nmi; 160 mi) south of the island.[4] The research team found a mud layer 2 to 4 m (6.6 to 13.1 ft) beneath the seabed that is extremely concentrated in REO. Analytical results showed that the maximum REO content in the mud was up to 0.66%.[5][6]In 2018, a scientific study of the seabed mud estimated that 16 million tons of REO mineralised sediments were within the studied area. The calculated rare-earth element and yttrium content for the research area was more than 16 million tons (average = 964 ppm).[7][8]Its surface strip mining but underwater, should be doable but difficult. I guess they will try to do it the same way a dredger works, by injecting compressed air in a pipe and sucking up a watery slur to the surface, then filter the gunk from the water. Aside from the unusal water depth, this should not pose a difficulty because everything would be managed by remotely operated underwater vehicles. BTW an island posting to that triangle island must be the absolutely worst possible. No wonder America gave it back to Japan so soon after world war 2.
>>540706962>Marxism-Leninism must win in the end. You better find some old marxist books in your grandparents drawers and try to read them with at least partial understanding xDMarxism is merely the christcuck (aka universal reform judaism) new testament rewritten for a new age where science has killed god. If you read older litterature, you will find that marxism was marketed as "scientific" and not as a pastisch of judeochristian superstition. Then the Soviet Union imploded and all claims of marxism being scientific died overnight. Marxism, like all jewish illusions, only bring ruin to the goyim.
>>540716906Bullshit. No commercial air-lift or dredge system operates at 6,000 m. Hydrostatic pressure collapses simple air-lift efficiency, gas expansion and energy demands make continuous slurry lift impractical. Pipe strings of that length face extreme weight/buckling/connection risks blah-blah. Japans tests used specialized scientific gear, not scaled dredgers. No deep-sea mud mining reached commercial production anywhere. ROVs handle observation, not high-volume continuous extraction
>>540706255Are they hiring Americans?I believe that the true human heir to Satan's throne via Cain's lineage resides in Japan, as well as the entrance to hell.Digging in deep sea mud may help me understand the truth.
>>540707134>>540707581Goyim Domestic Produce measured in amerijewish monopoly paper doesn't really matter when it comes to a nation that locally makes everything under the sun and is increasingly dumping that printed paper, trading oil in yuan and hoarding gold. GDP didn't even make sense to cope about Russia and Iran, let alone the Chinese behemoth. >>540708286>>540709191I've been all around the world. Including Albania that's catching strays there and even Poland. China is a century ahead of us and only dangerously deluded zog fellas believe otherwise. First time arriving in HK was one of the most humbling and ego-murdering experiences I ever had as a secluded lil backwater balkanoid. >inb4 HK is not chayna SH is head and shoulders above it. Most mainland cities are. It's just that HK popped my mental cherry. I felt like an ant on a space station.btw Ningbo alone mogs every single city on Taiwan. It's not even a competition, you're just signaling that you keep a KMT flag in your xitter bio.
>>540717078>Bullshit. No commercial air-lift or dredge system operates at 6,000 m. Hydrostatic pressure collapses simple air-lift efficiency, gas expansion and energy demands make continuous slurry lift impractical. Pipe strings of that length face extreme weight/buckling/connection risks blah-blah. Yeah its extreme depth but the engineering is doable. First, you dont need to inject air at the bottom, you inject air at a shallow depth to get the suction generated as the air will drag water with it when it rises and expands. This suction effect will then go all the way down to the bottom opening of the hose which would suck in the mud above the deposit and then the deposit itself. Also, using a rigid pipe for this would be awkward, you would need some kind of hose that you just roll off the boat. I guess they would have to build a rather big boat for this so they can carry the needed multiple kilometers of large diameter hose onboard. No need for manned submarines, everything would be managed by deep undersea ROVs, with the bottom hose opening itself being a part of a ROV that crawls over the bottom while vacuuming up the mud in front of it.
>>540717061Marxism-Leninism is grounded in historical materialism which claims that physical economic conditions form the primary base of human society. Under this worldview religion, culture and any abstract ideologies are categorized as part of the "superstructure" - reflections of underlying class dynamics rather than fundamental realities. Marxist-Leninist theory emphasized constructivist and educational ends. Early Soviet cinema (Dziga Vertovs documentary works or Sergei Eisensteins dialectical montages) favored historical events, industrial progress and social commentary over pure escapism. By contrast, mainstream Jewish-spirited Hollywood evolved within a capitalist market system focused on narrative entertainment, mythmaking and broad consumer appeal. The industrys emphasis on fiction and fantasy stems from market incentives and popular demand for storytelling that is needed to "persuade" every single NPC subhuman in the West that he lives in Wakanda. I actually watch archival media footages from communist Poland quite often to relax myself. Vast majority of them was created to make humans better, not worse. They were about science, improvemement, technical/scientific matters, urgent social matters. Today westoid judeomedia here are mostly about lies/deception/showing plebs-faced anti-singers with half naked asses like Bambi - they only demoralize, fool and stupify. China has absolutely different approach, thats why it isolated itself from the West with the Great Firewall
>>540717991Thats just insanity. In reality marxism is just a 2000 year old jew scam known as christianity respun for a new age where god is dead.The chinese started to scrap marxism 50 years ago and they are only successful because they have abolished so much of it while also being fed western tech and knowledge by jews monetizing western societies. China was supposed to be the next jew host but about ten years ago Xi Jinping judged that China had grown so strong that he could tell them to fuck off, which he did, and Soros promptly declared him jew enemy #1.
>>540706255name a more unpopular duo in Japan
>>540717818Shallow injection wont create 6k m suction - pressure drop over that hose length exceeds lift, air expands but flow chokes. Flexible hose kinks under own weight, ROV cant crawl in soft mud at that depth. Energy math fails. Not doable.
>>540717991>I actually watch archival media footages from communist Poland quite often to relax myself. Vast majority of them was created to make humans better, not worse. They were about science, improvemement, technical/scientific matters, urgent social matters.That archival footage is all false. Marxism is a reality denying jew spawned falsehood, just like christianity, and thus anything built on it will fail. Communist Poland was a stagnant eternally decaying shithole that utilized very little of its human potential while adding to the genetic decay of the polish population.
>>540718396Chinas economic system is fundamentally distinct from judaistic Western finance- and service-driven model, operating on structural principles that directly disprove conspiracies of your foreign dependency or identical systemic control. Chinas growth is anchored in a supply-side, manufacturing and gross capital formation model where investment consistently accounts for over forty percent of its GDP whereas Western economies rely heavily on debt-driven consumer spending and financialized service sectors. Rather than allowing private finncial capital to dictate resource alocation the Chinese state maintains direct command over major banks, energy and heavy industry through state-owned enterprises. In this system, financial markets function primarily as policy instruments for targeted industrial subsidies. Consequently China systematically channels its domestic resources into real industrial capacity, physical infrastructure and clean technology rather than speculative asset inflation - this createx self-directed and independent manufacturing ecosystem.
>>540717508>Goyim Domestic Produce measured in amerijewish monopoly paper doesn't really matter when it comes to a nation that locally makes everything under the sun and is increasingly dumping that printed paper, trading oil in yuan and hoarding gold. GDP didn't even make sense to cope about Russia and Iran, let alone the Chinese behemoth.True
>>540718468>Shallow injection wont create 6k m suction - pressure drop over that hose length exceeds lift, air expands but flow chokes.The ROV wont crawl in soft mud, it would be floating above it. Remember that you are undersea and not on land. The suction at the end of the hose would be stronger the deeper you inject the compressed air. In the atmosphere, the strongest suction you can generate is 1 atmosphere, but here you can generate many multiplies of that depending on how deep you inject the air. Water does not compress like air so the underpressure would be carried all the way to the opening of the megahose. Too much underpressure and the hose would crumple.If you did it the other way and have a big propeller pushing water into the pipe, you would have a hose with overpressure. Thats easier to engineer for. The pump could be fed with HVDC from the ship. The hose would have to have some kind of hard inner skin to resist abrasion by solids in the water, particlary if it is flowing fast. This is an interesting engineering problem but it is by no means impossible. Its just a matter of how much the japanese are willing to pay, and how good their engineers are.
>>540719419Injecting deeper doesnt increase bottom suction, the air-water foam is compressible, so underpressure dissipates choked by friction and slurry density. A bottom pump must withstand 600 bar external pressure while sealing high-speed abrasive solids, so seals fail within minutes. HVDC losses over 6 km are huge, pump energy to lift 6 km of slurry exceeds ore value. Flexible hose fatigue in currents makes station-keeping impossible. Not doable imo. This shit is just another MIGA cope like unclogging the H-strait xD
>>540706255Takaichi wearing pants? That's something I never expected to see.
>>540706962>Give me more power and trust me with more power and ignore my failures with protecting your wealth. He's just robbing them less than the leaders before him, when push comes to shove: they still eat their people's sustenance against heir will, and don't even appreciate the damage tolerated.
>>540706255Deep-sea mining is fine, the problem is, where will the funds come from for exploratory drilling for rare earth mud on the seabed.Confiscate the assets of chink diaspora in Japan.Demand compensation from China for coronavirus damages (and if they refuse to pay, amend the law so that we can kill any chink nationals and steal their belongings).How about this
>>540718814>Chinas economic system is fundamentally distinct from judaistic Western finance- and service-driven model, operating on structural principles that directly disprove conspiracies of your foreign dependency or identical systemic control.The chinks copy all the stupid shit the west does which means that they really dont understand what they are doing. Western economies have been intentionally sabotaged by jews and their goy collabrators. I remember the 1980s, when the current dogma was that the difference between the first world and the third world was that first world economies had raw materials, services and value adding (aka industry) while the third world just had raw materials and services. The more high quality value adding you had, the richer you were. Poland value adding was very poor.Then once the Soviet Union collapsed, the new dogma suddenly became "industry is obsolete, the future is services". The jews instantly flipped to loot and pillage mode without an external threat to keep them in check and the western collabrator class followed them. Then they exported everything to China which was promoted as the Next Big Thing. You have to understand that economics is not a science, its just a make believe bullshit art meant to legalize whatever looting scheme the jews are running at the moment. The present era of mass credit is coming to an end this winter when the entire debt mountain is hit by a megaquake of combined shortages of oil, natural gas and food as well as the AI bubble sending prices of electronics into the stratosphere. This will lead to interest rate hikes that will make it infeasible to continually roll over debt as interest payments now exceeds income, and mass bankruptcies of companies and individuals will be a fact. Then the greatest depression begins. And jews and their #1 golem America will be properly blamed this time.
>>540719896USrael did both : SARS-CoV-2 and "safe and effective" modRNA/LNP "vaccines" that mass-murder your people now. Grow up, Jap. Amerimutts proved once that they are fully capable and willing to eradicate you from this planet via "Little Boys" of theirs. They proved they are capable and willing to destroy your economy for decades with the Plaza Accord. Just stop being jelly about the Chinese success and start being more like China instead xD
Shin-Etsu has been running rare earth refinary plants since 1970s. They can handle 6N (99.9999%) high-purity oxides. They have accumulated nearly half a century of consistent experience and know-how in rare earth separation, refinement, and product manufacturing.Furthermore, they are also working on recycling from used rare earth products, contributing to resource circulation. They have the infrastructure to meet the growing demand in areas such as neodymium magnet.Hilarious chinks think that rare earth refining belongs only to their crappy firms, when Shin-Etsu is 10x bigger than any ching chong chemical and can easily acquire the technological capability if they want to.
>>540720710>nothing is on fire, we're winningjaps are getting busted in china for smuggling rare earths into their assholes, sgt. hernandez decades later japs' REE supply chain ended up being an indian middleman that was just rebranding chinese rare earths and getting rich
>>540719921>The chinks copy all the stupid shit the west doesthey explicitly do not which is why your industries are crumbling while chinese cars are on my streets now
>>540720927t. I'm idiotic suffering from comprehension disability
>>540721162you're a deluded, coping fella screencap this post: jap REE is going nowhere as nissan and mazda continue to drown underwater
>>540721255Lynas Rare Earths (heavily backed up by Japan) just broke China's monopoly on heavy rare earth both mining and refining, cope harder chink
>>540720710Shin-Etsu produces limited volumes of high-purity oxides for niche electronics, not bulk industrial refining. China controls 92% of global rare-earth refining, 99% of heavy RE processing and delivers 6N at far lower cost and industrial scale. Japanese capacity remains small, high-cost, and non-scalable for magnets or defense needs.
>>540721483hernandez, I've been following this song and dance for decades, I will not participate in your desperate need to soothe your blistering ass with delusions and copeI will once again command you: screencap my post and we shall see each other in the future
>>540721483Lynas produces 6-10 kt NdPr annually and only tens of tonnes of Dy/Tb currently (expanding to hundreds at best). Japans magnet industry and defense systems (missiles, aircraft, sensors) require substantial heavy rare earths for high-temperature performance. Lynas output covers only a fraction of Japans civilian needs, let alone scaled mass weapon production or the wider West kek
>>540719565>Injecting deeper doesnt increase bottom suction, the air-water foam is compressible, so underpressure dissipates choked by friction and slurry density.You dont get it. The air pumped into the pipe rises to the surface and when it does it drags the water in the pipe with it. The air water foam compressability is the very mechanism that generates the forward movement of the water. As the bubbles rise they also expand and lift/push water in front of them forward and out of the pipe. When half of the mass above the water slur pillar disappears by being turned into air-water slur and getting ejected out of the hose end at high speed, the pillar of water slur below the air injection point will be pushed from below/sucked forward and you get forward movement. >A bottom pump must withstand 600 bar external pressure while sealing high-speed abrasive solids, so seals fail within minutes.It would just be a propeller inside the pipe pushing slurry into the pipe and generating the suction at the front. The propeller seals would not be exposed at all. A large diameter pipe with slower moving water would keep abrasion down. The propeller itself would be the part most exposed to abrasion but it doesnt need to spin very fast.>HVDC losses over 6 km are huge, pump energy to lift 6 km of slurry exceeds ore value.Thats just bullshit. You want high voltage so you can have low current which means a thinner wire. Water floats in water meaning that gravity isnt a factor and the problem would be solids precipitating out of the water and sinking back forming a plug meaning that you would need a certain amount of flow speed in the pipe. I guess the japanese will have a hose with multiple pumps daisy chained so that they can keep the flow speed up. BTW long distance power transfer is all HVDC. There is a 1400 megawatt cable going from Norway to Britshitbongistan under the North Sea, its several hundreds of kilometers long.
>>540722129I know smth about REEs in context of vaccine-induced depopulation but i am not a top expert. I am too drunk to argue atm. Even if you are right (doubt), mining is like 10% of the success. Refining is what really matters
>>540706255Good thing globohomo jews gave away our world class mining and refining to hurt the communities and families of White Americans. Strategic geniuses!
>>540711768>TexasKEKTexas is just a brown bitch.
>>540721142>which is why your industries are crumbling while chinese cars are on my streets nowThey copied too much of their financial system from the west. And the reason chink cars are on your street is because the money that would have gone into upgrading our car factories never did, instead production was moved to China and our factories are running with too low robotization. All because of finance jews and their goy collaborators. Back in the 90s they used greenmailing to force companies to outsource to China.
>>540724090>All because of finance jews and their goy collaborators. Back in the 90s they used greenmailing to force companies to outsource to China.Life is brutal and full of zasadzkas.
>>540706255>US-Japan plan to mine rare-earth-rich mud 6 km deep near Japans Minamitorishima island (in its EEZ). Estimates claim >16 Mt total REEs (yttrium for 780 years global demand, plus dysprosium etc), low radioactivity.>Goal is to cut Chinas +90% supply grip via a "mine-to-magnet" chain and finally allow USA and Japan to grow their weapon production that so far is cock-blocked by China xD>Its mostly a fairy tale now: extreme 600-atm pressure makes it the deepest proposed mine ever - no commercial deep-sea mining exists after decades of efforts. Costs could be +3x Chinese land mining, totaling billions over >10 years. Scale-up from tiny tests to profitable volumes is unproven, plus processing hurdles.>Mining rare-earth mud is mainly a logistics and engineering challenge: scooping sediment and pumping it up. The real bottleneck is refining. Rare-earth elements (lanthanides) have nearly identical chemical properties due to similar ionic radii and electron configurations. Separating them requires dozens of sequential solvent-extraction stages, precise pH control and specialized reagents - processes that are energy-intensive, chemically complex. China controls +90 % of global refining capacity through decades of scale, optimized solvent systems and integrated industrial infrastructure. Japan and the US possess mining tech and some separation know-how, yet lack comparable industrial-scale refining plants, trained workforce, and cost-efficient chemical supply chains. Consequently, even if ore is extracted, nearly all intermediate oxides and metals still flow through Chinese facilities. xD>Finally, PLA Navy regularly operates near Japans EEZ (including prior entries during Minamitorishima surveys). Large surface fleet, advanced submarines and long-range anti-ship missiles enable persistent surveillance, shadowing, or harassment of survey/mining vessels without open conflict. xD
