>universal healthcare is communism and would be a burden on taxpayers, we need to send more tax money to pharma lobbyists
>>540712242Canada has good races(Sikhs, muslims, whites etc), while America has jeets, spics and niggers.
“free market” enthusiasts will defend this
>>540712242Find me a Canadian who doesn't think his healthcare system is shit. American healthcare is twice as expensive and ten times better.
>>540712715Cool is that why you faggots come here and pay cash for real healthcare? The reason American healthcare is more expensive is we have a lot of old people we don't deny coverage for. That's what Canada does, 6 month wait on a hip replacement so grampa can die on a waiting list. Sit the fuck down jeet.
>>540712788More taxpayer money is spent on American healthcare than in Canada and taxpayers still have to pay again for the end product.Only the utmost cuckold can defend this system.
>>540712242i work in health insurance. anyone who supports american health insurance is retarded.
>>540712399>SikhsHello sar
>>540712788Our healthcare is shit because of Immigration.30% of our country is brown now. And 30% of our healthcare workers are brown, so you'd think they're neutral. Not helping, not putting a strain on the system.But the reality is migrants working in Canadian healthcare mostly work at the support staff level. Janitors, admin. They're roughly 10% of nurses and sub 5% of doctors.Meaning since the 90s, we have increased our population by 30% through immigration, but only increased our doctors 5% through immigration.Browns are a net drain everywhere they go no matter what. These stats are direct from StatCan too. So any time a Jeet tells you the west needs them, laugh in his turd-brown face.
>>540712242Our government already spends more per person than yours on healthcare. Why don't any of the proposals for universal healthcare just use that?
>>540712983Canada's solution to higher healthcare costs: just have everyone die on waiting lists.
>>540713066It was shit before immigration, you have to sit in line with your broken arm behind some kid with a runny nose. I have family in Montreal who come to New York for cheaper groceries, cigs, and to get better healthcare. It's a big open secret
>>540713172the american model has the same solution via plan management in general, utilization review, restricting drug formularies, network tiering, etc.
I thought canadian health was free
>>540713293>you have to sit in linewe AMERICANS are free, that's why we don't even go to a doctor. imagine having to wait in line to see a doctor when you could just inject colloidal silver or drink bleach like MAHA tiktokers told me to!
>>540713138Corporate lobbyists would never allow it.
>>540712242Limiting the medical industry's earnings is communism.
>>540712242The way to disarm these people immediately is to say "Your taxes fund abortion in Israel but you don't think you can fund getting healthcare here?"
>>540713293>It was shit before immigration, you have to sit in line with your broken arm behind some kid with a runny nose.That's every ER in this nation too, you retard.I don't know how you can screech at a Canadian who's explaining the joys of unchecked immigration when you live in a country where they use the ER and urgent care as the doctors office.
>>540712242Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) accounts for approximately 5.0% of all deaths in Canada, based on federal data showing 16,499 MAID provisions out of total national deaths.Canada saves billions and billions this way.
>>540713385Who knows if it's free, Canadians usually have to come to the U.S. for serious treatment.
>>540712242Imagine for a moment that this is what large business (the thing that's so much more efficient than our federal government that the majority of our "federal" workforce is contracted out to them) are like in terms of efficiency here. Now imagine that we handed all of that over to a far less efficient and far more retarded bloated government agency. Do you think that the outcome would be suddenly that healthcare costs are low, wait times are low, everyone's getting super-duper great treatment and is happy, or do you think that an already terrible fucking system gets nightmarishly worse in ways that are hard to even predict and comprehend?
>>540712242>WE JUST WANT FREE HEALTHC-ACK>>540714184MAID all lefty freaks and nons and you can save gorillions
>>540712242As bad as you think you are, they are always somehow worse
>>540714070No it's not you braindead gobblefuck. Our ERs are drastically different. You go in with a broken arm you get seen right away not after runny nose timmy. I've never had to wait longer than 15 mins to get shown into a private room.
>>540714407>Imagine for a moment that this is what large business (the thing that's so much more efficient than our federal government that the majority of our "federal" workforce is contracted out to them) have you ever worked in the corporate offices of a large, publicly traded company?
>>540713293No it was quite good in the 80s and 90s, relative to now. Spacious rooms where they never put you more than 2 per, now 4-6 per.Quick service unless you happened to break an arm on a holiday where everyone else did too.Excellent price to service. Felt like my taxes were well worth it.And it's been a steady downhill since, with clear upticks of enshittification following every immigration wave.
>>540713385>I thought canadian health was free45-50% of provincial spending is health & social services.If the average cannuck makes 60K a year and pays 24k in taxes, they're spending 12K a year or 1K a month on that. Now not all of that 1K is exclusively healthcare, but let's say it is.How much does 700 USD a month in health insurance buy you in the USA?
>>540714815The immigrants tend to be healthier than Canadians are. The big problem in Canada is the natives. American healthcare is expensive because of old people living longer. 80% of our healthcare costs are because of people over 60
>>540715060Individual ACA is 625-687 not including deductibles.
>>540715170Employer sponsored is about $120/mo and most Americans are getting subsidized healthcare through their employers.
>>540715076>The immigrants tend to be healthier than Canadians are.Nah. By age group, they always use the system more.But yes Natives are a huge issue too. The Canadian Fed spends more on Natives per year than on the entirety of the equalization scheme.
>>540714693Yes. I do currently. I've also worked directly with a bunch of federal civil agencies as a contractor. I've seen government employees literally asleep at their desks and others playing tetris all day on their laptops. Nobody gets punished. A huge chunk of their workforce is a job subsidy program for over-degreed niggers. The ones who were given free rides to college because they managed a 2.1 GPA at Nigger-Central High School, who would have failed every college course if their professors didn't just pass them along because they're niggers. The kind who can barely read or speak clearly during meetings, who do absolutely zero work, and actually hold up all possible operations with their nigger retardation. I've been inside those places and seen how the sausage is made. I despise insurance companies and our healthcare system is fucked up. If you want to fuck it up way, way, way more put it 100% in the hands of the federal government. There is zero chance it winds up like some Scandinavian social program pre-immigration where you have an ethnically homogeneous society all responsibly using the efficient and well thought out government programs. It'll be the most niggered up retarded shit you could imagine.
>>540712242>universal healthcare is communismYes.>send more tax money to lobbyists in-generalNo. See, that's where we differ. We need lobbyists OUT of government, they can choose to leave by our rejection or remain and be forced out at gunpoint.
