What fucking idiot decided to leave a ship out at sea for over 250 days while it's packed with nu-americans. Are they retarded? We have the largest navy in the world and we couldn't figure out how to relieve the ship of it's post until after a bunch of niggers and filipinos tried throwing themselves overboard? What is our war department doing??
>>540721693
I'm bored reading shit skin babble like this.
>>540721765COPE HARDER ZOGBOT
>https://youtu.be/exmUlevMhNQ>lol
>>540721765Get a new script. The shitskins are on the ships lmao
>>540721758big mistake. boomers threw everything at instantiating the nuremburg trials as the end all of international court that everyone is only allowed to be defensive. too bad that's dead now.
>>540721758lol these memes
>>540721765Shitskin babble because it's about shitskins trying to kill themselves or shitskin babble because you're calling me a shitskin?
>>540721693>Strait of MalakaLol wtf
>>540721693not a lot of smart people in the military
>>540721693They'll vote for it again.
Veteran. Now a Contractor that does a lot of work on nearby military bases. I cannot tell you how disturbed I am seeing the state of the current recruits in our Armed Forces. Lazy. Unmotivated. They're just there to get the bennies or free Trans surgery. Can't even figure out PT standards because of Transexuals. The current US Armed Forces couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. The administration knows this. Boots on the ground will never happen. All we can do is put Millennials & Zoomers in front of a screen and have them play video games.
>>540721693bet there's a lot of pregnancies on that ship by now
>>540721693What I want to know is what kind of person looks at an alcoholic Fox News host with crusader tattoos covering half his body and thinks he's found a serious man with a serious plan?
>>540721765It's news and politics, deal with it. Go back to your blacked threads on >>>/gif/
>>540721693The replacement Ford Carrier turned out to be a lemon (we've known it was shit for over a decade at this point) and so the Lincoln was without coverage. I think they're delaying the Nimitz decommissioning, too.Despite having 11-12 carriers in service, two are always offline for refueling, and there's a multi-year cycle of major repairs, work ups, training, operational status (lasting only like one year), minor repairs, reserve status (deployable, but only for short periods), and then a return to major repairs. Some of this is simply unavoidable like flight deck resurfacing, as it gets worn down by flight operations.So in a four year period, maybe one year of that is deployable. So 25% uptime for 9-10 carriers, that means 2.5 ships per year available, and they need to cover other areas too: mainly the Western Pacific / East Asia.These problems are easily foreseen yet hard for admirals to take to the Pentagon bean counters since their fitreps depend on CUTTING costs, not asking for more money that might not be spent (it's guaranteed to be spent but congress pressures the pentagon to cut costs too much for how much mission capability they demand), so the crunch happens there and eventually it's the sailors stuck at sea for 250 days that suffer.When I deployed I made sure I BROUGHT WITH ME a full year's supply of anything I might need. We actually were like the first carrier NOT to be extended in over a decade, so I didn't need some of it, but it was better to have and not need (for instance the ship ran out of monster energy, but I had brought over 200 cans with me on board, so I never ran out personally. I used some to bribe my OOD and SWO boards kek).
>>540721693>voluntarily sign up for a job that requires you to be on a boat for extended periods>they make you be on a boat for an extended period>kys>?????>profittfw the military makes me actually do something instead of doing nothing for 4 years and then collecting disability checks for the rest of my life
>>540722333>tfw the military makes me actually do something instead of doing nothing for 4 years and then collecting disability checks for the rest of my lifeYeah I saw this shit coming it's why I quit when I did. I laughed so fucking hard when Iran kicked off because I thanked my lucky stars I was completely out by that point.
>>540722139>import third world>remove any incencitive for your young men to do anything>remove them from the work force>make it extremely hard to purchase a house, have a family, have any stake in your society and now even just purchase basic things>tell them that they are to blame for all of it>I cannot tell you how disturbed I am seeing the state of the current recruits in our Armed Forces
>>540721693Isn't this the ship where the zoomies stuffed towels in the toilets and sabotaged the plumbing? I thought it had to go in for repairs after that. How is it still deployed?
>>540722312The USS Gerald R. Ford was replaced by the USS George H.W. Bush you fucking clueless clown, it also suffered low morale and had sailors onboard constantly tampering with the plumbing system which forced it to dock in Greece for repairs
>>540722473That was the USS Gerald R. Ford, it was replaced by the USS George H.W. Bush
>>540722416Yes, you are the smartest zogbot welfare queen in the history of the US military
>>540722139Obama quite literally intended to destroy America from within from day one. That was what he was groomed to do.The vast majority of the Democrat party at that time simply enjoyed having the gloves off and being able to do any lawfare or corrupt scheme that they could, up to and including Obamacare. While Obamacare was a way to enable a permanent donor class to control the system and become pure profiteers - the poaching of any decent person in the military was a centerpiece. The globalists want America to fail spectacularly in a military defeat. Promoting yes-men well past their competence and then DEI were just slam dunks for them. Ironically Israel, even though it is unable to ever be a real ally to anyone, pathologically so, has been best aligned with us because they have invested heavily into controlling us and want to continue to leverage us to fight their endless wars.You can see the same play out in Ukraine. Replace their government with sociopathic narcissist faggots, then provoke them into starting an unwinnable war by having their head homo actor calling for russian blood and threatening to get NATO nukes.
>>540721693>Strait of MalarkeyJoe Biden wins yet again
>>540721693>it's packed with nu-americansFOUNDTHEPROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!
>the hormuz letterKek
>>540721758>>540721693Too many DEI hiresThe US is in it's late stage Rome period
>>540721693>hellish conditions>care packages of funko pops arrived months latelmaoreally goes to show how useless the average american is
>>540722139You voted for this you stupid fucking nigger worshipper.
>>540722900You should be more worried about thsir DUI hires
>>540722488I'm not going to argue with you about particular ship movements, one because I think you don't know what you're actually talking about as a foreigner, and two because I can't be assed to look up the ship schedules and plot exactly where the breakdown in scheduling was now that I'm resigned and FREE FROM HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT BULLSHIT DETAILS LIKE THAT.The point is the USA doesn't actually have enough carriers. They're like toilet paper. We need more. That or we need Congress to dial down their expectations for operational capacity.>>540722559Technically no although by test score I was in the top 1%. I knew a nuke who got kicked out of OCS on the last day before graduation for medical reasons and he got 100% disability, later worked at a nuclear reactor anyway double dipping for massive pay, like $13k/mo total back in 2015.
>>540721693It's like one of those big cruise ships.
>>540722924Keep obsessing over us and I'll keep not thinking about you and your shithole country ever lol
>>540722896>Is quoting the Wall Street Journal>This all originated from articles in Stars and Stripes and Navy Times>The ship is being sent back to the US and replaced by another carrier after the US military press articles led to worldwide media coverageNeck yourself mutt
>>540721693>AAAAHHHH I CAN'T STAND THE ISOLATION AND CRAMPED LIVING CONDITIONS AAAHHHHHH!!!>THE SOAP HAS RUN OUT HOW WILL I SHOWER AAAAHHHH!!!>THE WOMEN ON THE SHIP ARE MENSTRUATING AAAAHHHHH!!!!!do zogbots even have souls?
>>540723006The USS George H.W. Bush relieved the USS Gerald R. Ford you dumb mutt, they even went all the way around Africa instead of going through the Suez Canal because they were scared of an attack, your nation is a joke, it's just one giant nigger daycare that exists to promotes nigger worship to the world
>>5407230821v1 me irl no air support, see what happens
>>540721693Abe was destined to get false flagged. Gonna take meds now.
>>540723178>your nation is a joke, it's just one giant nigger daycare that exists to promotes nigger worship to the worldSee you just want to quibble over details but we already agree in principle on what matters. I won't reply to you any more.>>540723092>>THE WOMEN ON THE SHIP ARE MENSTRUATING AAAAHHHHH!!!!!Count your blessings you've never had to inspect female enlisted berthing on a carrier at the end of deployment. It's fucking foul. The stench cannot be adequately described in text alone. Nor can military standards and discipline be enforced in that area because if you even try, it will cause half of the female enlisted in there to have mental breakdowns. The blacks will get violent, the whites will cry and file EO complaints, and only the hispanics will actually respond appropriately and clean, maybe because it's in their blood.
>>540722312>When I deployed I made sure I BROUGHT WITH ME a full year's supply of anything I might need. We actually were like the first carrier NOT to be extended in over a decade, so I didn't need some of it, but it was better to have and not need (for instance the ship ran out of monster energy, but I had brought over 200 cans with me on boardWhat?You're on military deployment. All food should be provided. You're telling me they didn't have cans in reserve in case of emergencies?
>>5407223121 trillion dollar military budget, btw
>>540721693if only they were warned that if you allowed foids and fags to join the military it would become weak and impotent
>>540722312>>5407237671.5 trillion now. its just burning money at this point. bragging we are ordering 14k pac3 patriots next year. they will be delivered 600 a year, maybe up to 1k a year in 5 years. they dont work against ballistics, less than 5% effective intercept rate. chinese have drone carriers entering service while we dick around with shit like this. we cant even get a real hypersonic into service, at least 10 years behind russia in that regard. even norks been building them while we have an overpriced, slow and small payload hypersonic not even in service yet. where has all the money gone? to boondoggles and kikes. best stuff we have should be thrown out. pac3 is trash, so is thaad. himars is laughable, jam gps and it cant work. and the sad thing is we let our rare earth mining and refinement capacity dwindle to almost zero. thats not coming back in a decade. and nothing advance can be done without that first.
>>540721693Hurry up Navy sister I have to use the toilet hurry! HTs are probably thinking fuck my life. Rumors saying it was sabotage. Seamen not agreeing to be sardines in a can for Israel. Stuffing a shirt in the toilet, lmao to not start a war with another country because of a toilet system failure. Who designed this system on a 13 billion dollar carrier? I wonder if the carrier strike group is following mommy like yellow sea duckies? You know whats going to be fuckin great? Like the trolls that we are. Watch. Give it time. When that carrier goes back out at sea. It will be that SAME tranny that will put her navy scarf and plug the sewer valve system AGAIN. Its like all the flying dildos in the WNBA. Once its done, some other heckler will do it again. The fate of initiating war with another foreign country is not dictated by CENTCOM. This goes into the history books NSA that its the sewage system failure that stopped the mightiest military in the fuckin world. No one can recover from this public humiliation ritual. This will cause massive trauma on a psyop level. Ladies and gentlemen the strongest military in the world doing it’s swim of shame. Was it able to do its role? To parade and puff your chest with an aircraft carrier. Demoralization? It is way past fuckin that. Bluebeard and his pirate crew arrrr didnt have this problem matey. They just shat in a bucket and threw it overboard into sea where the fishies eat your excrement. Now you have nigger seamen executing mutiny on the USS Abraham Lincoln. There are fires now, over six hundred seamen with no place to sleep other than the poo in the loo floor that is pajeet tier! CENTCOM is not central command. Niggers dont want to be sardines in a barrel for Israel. But it proves the point, your naval strike group are museum pieces, yellow duckies in the sea. These are the tales from Davey Jones’ locker, not myth, but legendary tales.
>>540723378>female enlisted cannot be adequately have military standards and discipline be enforced in that area because if you even try, it will cause half of the female enlisted in there to have mental breakdowns. The blacks will get violent, the whites will cry and file EO complaints, and only the hispanics will actually respond appropriately and clean, maybe because it's in their bloodAll because of DEI. Competent whites pushed out and replaced with faggots and nigger worshippers. Exactly the same thing going on across various industries. Picrel applicable to many games studios.https://youtube.com/watch?v=iNiVJSZnvE4
>>540723526Anon there were almost 5000 people on board the ship, all of them working 12-18 hour days. By the end they missed one shipment of monster and it cascaded to everyone hoarding and they wouldn't order more at the end of deployment so we were just out for like two months until we got back to Hawai'i and everyone stocked up on shore.Shit runs out. Supply department isn't perfect.>>540723767Yeah I'm furious about that because most of that money is squandered on useless shit and there are STILL materiel shortages all the time, despite that money. So some spenders have too much money and order new office furniture every year, and some units can't scrape together money for needed materiel. Then Trump got in promising to cut the DOD budget for the first time in forever, now it's basically gone from that to wanting to double it because we blew our interceptor load rather than let Tel Aviv take a few hits.>>540724078Yeah, acquisitions is shit and probably needs a congressional reaming by someone who knows what the fuck is going on. Too bad most officers who were involved in that don't go into politics, they go to work for the contractors and lobbyists and perpetuate the grift.The next general who gets into the white house will probably go scorched earth on the Department of War. God knows they need it.
It's happening!>Source: Some Jeet on twitter.Totally off topic, why do you guys suppose the jews consider you all just cattle?
>>540721693The people in charge did all this on purpose. The sailers are being tortured and abused by the leadership who are jewish or affiliated with jews. This was the goal the entire time, the judaic government has done things like this before and those sailors on that ship are the classes that jews hate, unlike people who look like cop and porn classes and sports people classes and all that other non working class looking people that jews give everything to. If any leadership responsible is on board the sailors should have fucked them all up and going forward no one who has the physical aesthetic of working or lower class persons needs to trust and allow the government to send them to some is l isolated place like out to see for months. Yes this physical aesthetic is exactly how judaic government decides to treat people.
>>540724409How much space do you get that you can have a hoard of 200 cans?
>>540722139we voted for this, tranny
>>540724975He's lying to you nigger. On a navy ship rack I was able to fit 3 cartons of smokes lighters all my uniforms civilian pajamas to sleep in my books and a Nintendo 3ds.
>>540723879Do you really think its only foids and gays that don’t wanna die for Israel?
>>540724975It was most of my entire storage space in my wardroom. Other than that I brought 9 physical books, six external hard drives, a tablet, the bare minimum of clothes and uniforms, and enough toiletries to last me a year. Over time as I drank down my supply storage got less cramped.These days it would be even easier because there are redbull sized cans of energy drinks with 200mg of caffeine in them, so I could have cut my storage needs down by like 25%. Maybe even 50% if I used a water bottle to split the cans up into 120mg servings but that would probably be too much effort.>>540725133I was an ensign in a four man wardroom. We had plenty of space. I honestly couldn't have survived as an enlisted living in berthing. I would have either died of some gay disease or killed myself.
>>540721765>migger can't readMaybe that's why you lost the war against Iran huh
>>540722456Pretty much this. Young White men that can fight aren't joining the military. Fuck the armed forces. Bunch of corrupt, DEI, gibs motivated faggots. You want me to be patriotic? For what? Making billionaires richer? Importing illegals and jeets? Try winning a war with your welfare queen niggers, Mexicans, fags and trannies. I'm not going to serve. >t. Boxer and outdoorsman
>>540725666>redbull sized cans of energy drinks with 200mg of caffeine in themGotta have that goyslop.t. - Jody
>>540722225The kind that saw his speech at the historic King David Hotel
rolling for a mutiny and the creation of the first Pirate Aircraft Carrier.they can easily ransack France >YAAAAARRR
>>540722312Kek. I was on the Lincoln and toured the Ford. Everyone was so proud of the new systems they had installed. You'd have to be insane to join up today.
>>540721693>USS George Washington>USS Abraham Lincoln>USS Robert Smalls>USS ShoupWhat are these clown names, we gotta USS Splat Albert in there too?
>>540724592It's from the Wallstreet journal, who are quoting the military times and Navymil. You are a gorilla nigger.
>>540722896>BEING THIS ILLITERATE AND RETAR- ..Wait, he is an ACKCHUAL burger.. sorry
>>540721693>>540721758why dont we get nice propaganda reels with zesty bucks from the deck of the uss abrahamic liberty like we used to in the past ?
>>540724287Exactly, they were selected as sacrifice for Israels Mollock and Mammon cults, they were sitting ducks to entice Iran into a massive escalation, but Iran did not take the bait, and is letting the US and A neck themselves. CENTCOM was literally waiting for a Pearl Harbor excuse, now they can only hope for USS Liberty 2.0, so they hope Israel sinks the ship now and blames it on IRan.
>>540725928Well when you're on the 0200-0700 bridge watch and you need to keep your wits about you after a full 0730-1800 day of work, plus studying for quals, yeah gotta have that caffeine. That's what the monster was for, one can per watch. It worked really well for me. I'd sip the can for the first two hours, then be focused for the rest of the watch.>>540726789It's just so fake and gay. Like yeah on paper electric everything sounds good, but it has to work in practice. And as annoying as steam is, we at least know how it works in practice and how to deal with problems as they crop up.Half the contractors for the Ford should have been fired, if not prosecuted for fraud and embezzlement. The entire thing is a fucking mess. AND WE STILL HAVE NO CRUISER REPLACEMENT. NOR A FRIGATE REPLACEMENT, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY NICE TO HAVE FORWARD DEPLOYED IN THE STRAIT WOULDN'T IT.
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Hegseth and Trump are killing America from within. China must be absolutely giddy.
>>540722139>All we can do is put Millennials & Zoomers in front of a screen and have them play video games.Works pretty well for ukraine and iran?I sincerely hope all wars become drone / robo wars with all the humans home on a comfy couch
>>540725666>four man wardroomfuck you and your officer digits>some gay disease or killed myselfIG came to visit our boat once and told us we were #1 in the fleet for suicides. good times.
>>540728238>the Fordmy roommate from s8g prototype was the m-div chief around 2012ish. maybe you two crossed paths.
>>540728833Shoulda gone to college, squirt.That said fuck officers. Only OCS produced any good officers. ROTC and the Academy and all the mustang programs only turned out the worst careerist shitters. Me and the rest of the OCS guys were just constantly shocked by how fucking faggy every other officer in the fleet was.And fuck chiefs too. They were the WORST. I never met a good chief, NOT A SINGLE ONE. The best one I ever knew only met the bare minimum I'd expect of an E-7.
>>540728985I actually wasn't on the Ford and this long out from resignation I find it hard to even recall the names of people I worked with, thank God. The whole experience was hell. The only good thing about it was the money, some of which I put into bitcoin and I'm retired off that.
>>540729030>Shoulda gone to college, squirt.squid. I went to afg instead and got those sweet sweet contractor buckos. a few of the guys from the boat ended up there too, oddly enough.>fuck officersditto. it wasn't until I spent more time in afg with actual fighting men did I learn how fagged out the navy really was. >chiefs tooyou have no clue, my man. we almost had a mutiny when a topside watch threatened to shoot the cob because the yeoman chief got drunk and started throwing shit overboard from junior enlisted berthing. big navy told them to fuck off for reimbursements up until that point. the next day they all had money in their accounts and the COB and EDMC didn't have holes in their heads.>the moneyI calculated making about $4 an hour as a fast attack smag and about the same as a desert glowie. normal schedule staying awake for days and days on end for mission for both. fuckin suuuuuucked.fuck ORSE btw.
>>540729030>mustanghttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/540128694/#q540137605my recruiter ended up a mustang. was a sonar tech and ended up with me later on.
>>540721693>We have the largest navy in the world and we couldn't figure out how toHQ is also full of numericans
>>540722153I'm sure there's just as many involuntary abortions too. Running out of supplies on a ship full of women has got to be some kind of undiscovered level of hell.Women shouldn't be anywhere near war and it's not just because they can't fight. They turn into demons the moment things get rough.
>>540722731Obama ended his term in 2016, so update your programming retard.
>>540721758kekYou just know Hegseth is finishing off his keg slurring and muttering about low T sailors fucking up his Iran crusade
>>540721693Many people already said, it's a test. They wanted to see how long they could keep sailors at sea in crappy conditions before they lost their minds and started attempting suicide. The answer was apparently 200ish days. The next step is to see how long it takes to mutiny and start killing the officers and they obviously don't want that so they'll pulling them it. It was just one big mindfuck test on the sailors to see how long they could keep them away until they'd break
>>540722900I still don't understand what's different between hiring someone like hegseth and DEI. Isn't the issue with DEI that it ostensibly causes people who don't deserve the position to get it over more qualified people based on political correctness? How is that not basically the same thing with Pete Hegseth on one hand but on another even fucking worse because the former "DEI" was like picking the black general instead of the white one. Pete isn't even a general. He spent a weekend a month in the national guard for a while where he rose to the rank of major. The only reason why he got the job is a kind of DEI for MAGA. Imagine if Trump never saw him on fox news. Do you think in a million years he would have ever been considered for this job?
>>540731891>muh 200 days at sea.>rotten meat.Soft ass motherfuckers. Real sailors eat rats and leather boots.
>>540731891>no no no no it's actually a big CONSPIRACYI'm pretty sure Pete is just totally inept
>>540721693It's a pack of lies. The Pentagon is crafting a narrative that will help cover up dozens or hundreds of deaths from an Iranian missile strike.
>>540721693I love it. If you had an army of me that would be happy to be so stressed and fried out. We would be living of nutrient paste and drugs and that would be all we need. You could have us as a skeleton crew and the situations we controlled would just be another fucking glorious day to survive.
Lol what's up with all the /pol/ coping about this?As if it's hard to believe that zoomers would start losing it after an extended deployment
>>540732196Eglin shills trying their best to control the narrative. Same thing with all the anti-weed shilling lately. You can't get drafted if you smoke weed unless the military changes their zero-tolerance policy for weed.
>>540721693Your war department is following the orders of its fat, orange, incompetent, corrupt, adultering, warmongering, hebephilic, jewish president. And the guy is possibly a war criminal, a rapist, and a wife killer as well.
And to think, at least a third of those guys used to post on pol before enlisting
>>540722139Lel. It’s unironically a good thing. The kikes and govt won’t be able to use them to genocide White Americans when the time comes
>>540722139>IM TOADALLY A CUMMANDER DOODZ!!!!!Your dormant stomach cancer is stirring btw. Call it shitpost if you must, be you know those sudden developing core pains are worrying .
Imagine being dumb enough to sign up as a zogbot wagie stuck on a boat lmfao
>>540722225this, that jackass has always given me the creeps and he's proven to be (yet another) terrible choice for an important job made by Trump
>>540732292>wife killer? Elaborate please.
>>540721926Isnt it all browns and trannies these days?
>>540732402Yeah what? He just raped and assaulted his first wife, RFK is a wife killer.
>>540722139>benniesI unironically did this. Fuck I'm comfy.
>>540721693what the fuck are they going to do convoy them in and outthey need to be creating new operational orders some form of system to allow people to cope with this"trumps 40 million a day aircraft carrier to use fleet of comercial and military veachles transporting thousands of men out of rotation could cost more than a billion dollers"does it suck yes what can they feasibly do where's a safe dock that can rotate a few thousand men in the area while facilitating active operations or do they move it out of the area entirely and iran basically says it won?also why do i care i dont kek what is even the point of haveing a carrier if staffing it makes people go crazy
>>540732512your forefathers must be so proud
>>540731965DEI is a supra-systemic POLICY of non-meritocratic hiring, discriminating on immutable factors like sex and race.Hiring Hegseth is just bad hiring practice. An individual case. It's not quite nepotism (that's Kushner), but you're correct that it's non-meritocratic and he shouldn't be the secretary of war. Now, why the FUCK did the Senate confirm him? Because Trump wanted a loyalist to him personally, and Republicans wanted someone firmly Republican and not going to rock the boat (Hegseth has done nothing to audit the pentagon or investigate any internal corruption, nor has he to my knowledge made even any big strategic decisions or interfered with the Joint Chiefs).He's basically a figurehead, probably on the take from Israel.But it's not the same as DEI.
>>540732606Anon...An entirely different carrier with it's own crew is coming in, and the Lincoln carrier and crew will sail home to America to deal with a wave of divorces.Sad to think Britannia forgot how ships works.
>>540732294This.Really considering the level of kikification ... I'm genuinely happy for them being retarded. They don't deserve to die for kikes and boomers absolutely FUCK THAT The way things are going the only thing awaiting them is a drone dismemberment And for what? Exxon Mobil
>>540733791>America to deal with a wave of divorcesId be fascinated to know the stats... It would be quite interesting to know how many after 6 months back
>>540733667Not sure I agree. Race is locally, politically relevant, not globally relevant. In this scope, it's relevant because of its use as a metric which ostensibly supersedes qualification. As such, I propose that any mechanism which supersedes qualification is bad for the exact same reason DEI is ostensibly bad. Furthermore, I disagree that Pete is a bad hire. From our perspective as people who want the government to serve our interests competently, he's a bad hire. But from Trump's perspective, he's a perfect hire: he talks tough on TV, looks good in a suit, and never ever says "no." That's the quality which, to use the earlier language, is selected for in this "mechanism which supersedes qualification." In a sense, the problem with these mechanisms is that they aren't necessarily even selection mechanisms but entire alternative organismzational ontologies where up is down and left is right. And yeah, I still think Pete is even worse than DEI. The system which chose him, if we even pretend to care about the government serving the governed as best as possible, must necessarily be worse. Remember, the last "DEI" to hit our military chose a black general over a white general because he is black. This one chose a national guard major who's good on TV. Outcomes are not interchangeable.
>>540734776many such cases
>>540734776The think tanks have been coming to /pol to get ideas.
>>540721693If they don't have a flag they cant port anywhere.
>>540721693Well gee who is in charge of the DoD.hmm.>>540721758Oh yeah that guy who has never done a tour in his life, has never worked hard, installed a fucking makeup counter in the pentagon.That guy. Now think hard why is hiring a total faggot reprobate retard to lead the military a terrible idea?
>>540734689>Race is locally, politically relevant, not globally relevant.That's ridiculous but not actually relevant to any argument being made now.Bro, you need to wake up. Moving on.>I propose that any mechanism which supersedes qualification is bad for the exact same reason DEI is ostensibly bad.It's not for the same reason, but sure, you can make the value statement that any non-meritocratic mechanism is bad and ignore everything else.>Furthermore, I disagree that Pete is a bad hire.>And yeah, I still think Pete is even worse than DEISee you're trying to make an argument about particulars and extend it to general statements: you can't always do that. In this case, it's a logical fallacy. Eg all X are Y, but not all Y are X, and you're saying here's Y so it's X. It doesn't work in that direction.>The system which chose him... must necessarily be worse.We weren't even discussing which was worse, just what the difference was between Hegseth's hiring and DEI (because that anon saw Hegseth as bad, couldn't distinguish it from DEI, and didn't think DEI was bad so he wanted an explanation).In this case, there WAS NO SYSTEM behind Hegseth's SELECTION. Trump wanted a loyalist, he had a short list, did some interviews, and went with Hegseth. That's it. With DEI, it's a broader filter across a broad range of hiring actions: it's a system. And it's a discriminatory system that discriminates in favor of non-whites and women and against whites and men.You shouldn't make blanket statements about both, or draw generalizations from one about the other. Both are bad, but they're bad for different reasons. They're not logically linked in any way.
So there are no support ships that come along and resupply it and deliver stuff to it?
>>540734946This is what happens when retards who can't properly define "strategy" get in charge.No, a corporate "strategy" statement for PR purposes is not the same as military strategy. And it's showing. Another reason, and in fact the precipitating reason, why I decided to resign. I realized my life was in the hands of retards too prideful and hubristic to listen when told they were making fundamental errors in their thinking.In fact I have exactly the answer to the question they're asking, and I won't even post it here just in case some glownigger gets it back to them and they adopt it. I no longer want the Pentagon to succeed. They MUST fail so that there can be a purge and cleansing of the military upper brass (realistically everyone E-7 to E-9 and O-3 and up).
>>540721693> 250 daysSo America can no longer fight wars that take longer than this?THAT'S NOT EVEN A YEAR! NOT ONE YEAR!
>>540735765Navy logistics failed on this one big time lol
>>540735765There are, but supply departments are notoriously slow to adjust to changing stock levels on the ship beyond what was planned prior to deployment. Yes, the supply commander (O-5) is too out of touch to understand the ship is out of body soap and order more and get it delivered to the ship. He's also too bad at his job to keep repair parts in stock, too.The entire ship is run by people operating at the Peter Principle, for the most part. Carrier crew are where most officers get sent to ride out the rest of their time until retirement, unless it's the XO in the pipeline to become the CO or the CO making a play for Admiral. The Chiefs basically run everything for their own benefit and without adult supervision.
>>540721693>The Hormuz Letterlol
>>540721758I called it out on here when Trump nominated that idiot Hegsethand of course I was laughed at by the /pol/ crowd
>>540735912>soap running low>don't order more because deployment ends in two weeks anyway>a week later get extended for a month>lead time for soap delivery is three weeks>well shit I mean it'll be tight but we're going home right after it gets delivered>I'll just order a little bit, gotta save money>three weeks later get extended another month>soap levels critical>ask CO if we're getting extended again>no way that won't happen>you promise>yeah I promise don't order more soap, we gotta save money>get extended a totally unprecedented third time>sailors start trying to kill themselves>everybody stinksIt's like that.
>>540722139Robots/remote is the current strength behind western militaries. Outside of special forces there's no actual "manpower".
>>540721765>I'll just use the same gaslighting technique on /pol/ that works on nigger hating facebook boomers.The american military is full of shitskins and female skinskins, especially the button pushers in the navy
>>540736115This anon gets it
>>540722312world's largest military btw
>>540723091People going crazy at sea isn't anything new sensationalist faggot>>540727931>dirty paisa talking shitIm literally a bigger, meaner version of you. I love going down south and towering over you midgets
>>540736115you forgot to mention the ship is full of shitskins and shitkin women
>>540736254Yeah bro I lived it. And I studied how bad decisions get made in wartime because I didn't want to make bad decisions and die, and it turned out I wasn't the retarded one, everyone else around me was retarded. So I quit.The USA is fundamentally incapable of winning a war without resorting to nuclear weapons at this point. Actually since 2001 with Afghanistan, but DEFINITELY today they're incapable of winning without resorting to nuclear weapons. And it's not for lack of materiel or manpower, it's because the leadership is fucking retarded and doesn't know what they're doing. Never trust anyone in the military higher than E-6 or O-2.
>>540736292Most of what I described is just the nature of carriers. Yeah you can have a fleet of them, but they're less available than you'd think, and if you start a war half-cocked without prep time, you can't accelerate maintenance on other carriers to surge them. They need... actually I won't even guesstimate because I guess that'd be classified. But obviously they need some amount of preptime beyond "hey Bibi just asked me a few hours ago to start a war, it's go time faggots."
>>540736448>leadership is fucking retardedWrong. The people at the top know exactly what they are doing. Those lower than them are left to implement enforce the wonk policies they create
>>540721693The jews don't care about you
>>540736574no they don't, retard, orange nigger and bibi don't fucking have any idea what they're doing and is blatantly obvious you retarded migger. Neither do any one under them.Look up the 5 rules of stupidity, cippolla's, and boeheffners theory of stupidity and you'll understand why what you said is retarded, not that its not self evident already.
>>540736574I'm sure it must be a comfort to imagine the people in charge are merely evil, but I assure you they're also stupid.But you can believe what you want. You have absolutely no ability to influence them anyway. They might as well be gods on Mount Olympus.
>>540722139why the fuck do you kikes keep pushing for boots on the ground? you're gonna join the fight ot something?
>>540736783Hegseth picking his nose and wiping in his hair, Trump hiding in a taco cart. Super enthralling stuff, gobble it uplmao
>>540731965Officers play by different rules. They can literally write their own medals lol. Hegseth was a camp guard at Gitmo and then an "infantry officer" in Iraq but his stated job was Civil Affairs Officer.
>>540731965One is about nepotism/politics/chronyism and the other is purely ideological subversion of institutions
>>540732367>reddit spacing>angery buttflustered posting when his life's peak gets insultedisraeli loyalists are adorable
>>540736448>The USA is fundamentally incapable of winning a war without resorting to nuclear weapons at this pointNuke Iran. No draft. No boots on the ground. Strait opened. Problem solved. We need to use the 1000s of nukes we bought and paid for as citizens. Otherwise, they are just collecting dust and are no more than glorified paperweights.
>>540737674Then Russia nukes Ukraine and China threatens nuclear war if Taiwan doesn't surrender and North Korea demands annexation of South Korea by threatening nukes. It would escalate really quickly.There's a conventional solution but I'm not posting it. I'm leaving it as an exercise for the Pentagon staff faggots!
>>540721693Imagine if Americans realised they could just kill the Jews and suddenly start having far fewer problems.
>>540738319Russia doesn't have the balls and neither does China. Let nuke and get it over with. I'm tired of the bs.
>>540721765Not as bored as those other niggers stuck on that worthless ship.
>>540738501It's more about Europe's nukes. If Russia or China or NK nuke first, Europe will participate in retaliatory MAD. If USA strikes first, Europe will sit it out, because they care about having the moral high ground. If it's particularly egregious, Europe might even strike back at outlying US territories with nukes, in addition to expelling US forces.If USA strikes first and Europe denounces USA and breaks up NATO, they might sit back and let Russia and China nuke USA to death in MAD. Europe actually wins in that scenario as long as they don't catch strays, because they win by not playing the game. They'd be the only civilization left standing amidst the wreckage. Then maybe they just nuke Israel to remove the samson option and hunker down for nuclear winter.
>>540738691Lob a nuke into Britain, then blame the Russians. Then set off a suitcase nuke in Tel Aviv and make an ISIS video of them taking responsibility for it.
