If your family fought the union, you betray your ancestors if you serve or support the modern united states. If you truly look at how our nation was fundamentally broken over decades leading up to the civil war, you will NEVER look at the US as a legitimate government ever again. All wars Spanish-American War and onward have been empire building that is against everything this nation was founded on. The policy of republicans today is the policy of Lincoln's tyranny. In fact, Abe Lincoln and the whigs, support leftwing views as well. Both parties today believe in big centralized government. They play you with the 14th amendment and this belief in inalienable rights for all mankind, as if this America applies to all people in the world and that the white man must save them. This is an egalitarian utopia. When from the very start, this was about sovereignty of states that wanted to DECENTRALIZE, note that word, DECENTRALIZE from a parliament that would not represent their interests. They wanted a government in which at any moment, the rest of the states could leave and govern themselves. This is the Anglo tradition. You believe Anglo tradition is British imperialism under Americans or the British of the past. But in truth, Anglo tradition is that of the Magna Carta. It's that of the Anglo Saxon. We are a people of rebellion and sovereignty for ourselves, for the Anglo people. For the English people. Now for the American people. Nobody else in the world should be our problem. Fuck yankees. Fuck the federal government. Fuck the US military. Fuck republicans. Fuck democrats. Fuck socialists. Fuck monarchists. Fuck nazis. Fuck your military service. Fuck ukraine. Fuck iran. FUCK Israel. Fuck China. Fuck Russia. Fuck all of them. America for Americans and nothing more. Isolationism. Localism. FUCK WASHINGTON DC
>>540735923OK still not voting blue
>>540736035You shouldn't vote at all
>>540736084Correct just as jews want
>>540736084The issue is we have no representation. It's all corrupt. Also, everyone voting is nothing more than mob rule. There needs to be qualifications to vote. More than being an anchor baby.
>>540736117How you think we are able to support Israel? Because of our foreign policy brought about by the federal government. Congress should have no authority.
>>540735923America today more closely resembles the confederacy lol
>>540737337Bullshit, how do you make that conclusion? How twisted is your understanding of American history to think this?
>>540737337No those are illegals Jews said were citizens. Big difference
>>540735923>Fuck the US military. Fuck republicans. Fuck democrats. Fuck socialists. Fuck monarchists. Fuck nazis. Fuck your military service. Fuck ukraine. Fuck iran. FUCK Israel. Fuck China. Fuck Russia. Fuck all of them. America for Americans and nothing more. Isolationism. Localism. FUCK WASHINGTON DCbased.
>>540737392I’m sorry, do we live in a country that imports cheap foreign labor or not?The south was WAY more nonwhite than the north, demographics didn’t matter to them, just who was profiting from them.>but anon, I as a white man would be in charge under the confederacy!You and what money?
>>540737567Shut up brownie
>>540735923>Fuck and married monarchistsWould tho
>>540737567Ah okay, so your argument is you hate the landowners and planters and you see it as an economic monopoly on slavery. That is the northern perspective. You completely disregard the fact that your economic perspective rests on the idea that it should be the concern of the united states government to decide how a state provides labor. Let slave states decide. The reality is the southern yeoman did not have this envious view on the economic hierarchy. Furthermore, you cannot compare the wealth landed planters with today. Do billionaires of today adhere to the agrarian southern tradition? Do romanticize nature's bounty and participate in the local economy? Does the average American grow their own crops and sell them to planters for money? Money which they then reinvest in land and slaves of their own? Today the American is provided no mobility from oligarchs of the modern business world. Your plight against capitalism could not be further from the conservative pastime of landed gentry. A capitalist is that of a liberal. Someone who pushes for progress. Who are the tech people of today building the data centers and infrastructure that enrages us? It's the progressive ideology. We have no conservatives today. Nobody is conserving our land and making it so that you can homestead and grow your own food and thrive.
what if they signed up for the union to be a replacement for someone but deserted after collecting the enlistment pay which was super common back in those days
>>540737778Fuck the monarchy. A southerner should have no sympathy. The English monarch? The kings of England were all usurpers and they believe that they have authority granted to them by God. Fuck them. There has not been a legit king of England since Richard II. Fast forward to the 17th century, if an English gentleman was a 2nd son of the gentry, he should have little sympathy for the crown beyond the land the granted to them in the colony to farm. Land that would later earn them little representation in parliament and lead to their subsequent rebellion. In hindsight of where the government is today, we have little representation in congress. We are an empire that hates it's own founding people. We act in foreign interest and trample on the declaration of independence daily. I see the federal tyranny of the past 150+ years as nothing more than a kingly tyranny. Perhaps even worse because I think King George cared more about Americans than a single person in congress today.
>>540738414My slight is mostly aimed toward southerners who think they are aligned with their ancestors with military service and voting republican.
>>540739513Honestly with all the kikes fleeing south Israel is southern clay by right
>>540739573You come into an honest thread where I take the time to actually reply and you accuse me and fellow posters of derailment. While you shill your grift links. The nerve.
>>540735923My family were far west dirt farmers during the Civil War and didn't fight because they didn't care. One retarded great (2?) uncle went though. He got shot by the union nigs in Missouri
>>540739592What?
>>540739905Thems the rules. I don't make them
>>540739513>doesn’t answer the question>soapboxesprobably a mudslime shill
>>540740064Answer what question? He asked about his family deserting the union army. I don't know, how is that an argument against anything in my OP?
Hey OP your main post is unreadable trash. Im not telling you to Reggit space but you need to not post like a complete schizo.>Brevity is the soul of wit.Use less words. Win us over.
>>540740459If you agree with that quote from Robert E Lee and could actually read, you would you see that everything I say supports that quote.
>>540735923Correct, but yankees and coasties are a lost cause.
>>540740564I agree with you. Fuck 1913 it was all over in 1865
>>540740650These silly commies think they can scare us with their "federal government"
>>540740650I don't know how to get my point across. It's hard to learn about this stuff. Every "conservative" viewpoint today is post civil war revisionism. The right today attack the origins of this nation and they believe in the myth of emancipation and this idea that we should be a world power and bombing others into submission. They think that patriotism is serving big government. They think that we should have white nationalism as if just because you are white you qualify as some kind of monoculture. They don't understand that American conservatism of the past is nothing like today. Conservatism is not an ideology. It's about conserving our culture and what drove us to rebel against the British in the first place. The battle goes back much further than 1865 and I don't know how to make sense of it for anyone. Not even boomers understand. Everything is just right and left.
>>540740874Well if they weren't stupid there wouldn't have been a war in the first place
>>540735923https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxP2k-_tukw
>>540735923Grok, what religion was the Confederate Secretary of State?
>>540740874The French revolution winning destroyed Europe.The American Revolution losing destroyed the USA.Isn't history fun to study?I don't have any answers. The future is open to the warp
>>540741125This, too.
>>540741136But a distinction should be made here. Lumping together the American revolution and the French revolution is not correct. The French was a socialist revolution. The American revolution was a political one. Americans rebelled because we were not represented as British subjects. Americans wanted more participation in their sovereignty. A decentralization of parliament power. This is not the case in the French revolution, this idea of liberty for all with class at the front.
>>540741380Not the case in the French revolution, which is an idea of liberty for all with class at the front* I should say
>>540740874Eh. It's mostly about the bill of rights, everything else is window dressing
>>540741734No it's fucking not. Stop being stupid on purpose. Stop trying to summarize things into groups like a marxist.
>>540742670Whatever you say Mr American man
>>540742718Every one of your posts have no coherent argument about anything. You just make these statements that have no meaning. This is because you know nothing about anything.
>>540742834What's super relevant to you in the constitution that's not the bill of rights? Did you forget about the 10th amendment?
>>540742896The bill of rights was ADDED as amendments to the constitution by anti federalists. Everything else in the constitution was reserved to the states. Why do we even need a bill of rights? Why does the centralized government need to draw rules for the states? Most states HAD a bill of rights. This is not an issue about your rights as an American. This is about the anti federalists undermining state's rights.
>>540743217Holy jeet
>>540743265Why does the federal government need to speak for the states on law?
>>540743463That's the million dollar question isn't it
>>540735923>OP doesn't know about the Knights of the Golden Circle and the CSA's imperial aspirations for after they won the war.
>>540743649Would it have been less gay
>>540743649Well that shit never happened and southerners didn't fight for the knights of the golden circle nor does that solve the issue of federal tyranny.
>>540744156What's jeet obsession with anti imperialism? Have you been hanging out with the Quakers again
>>540744734It's against the constitution, bootlicker
>>540744809And how does that affect you personally? Let's break down the geopolitics and your friends
>>540735923Vae victis.Suck it up, cupcake.
>>540744862Being an Empire is despotic for the American. This nation was founded on rebellion against an empire. You have no horse in the race of foreign interest. You accuse me of being a jeet, yet you advocate for foreign policy and never think about local self interest. Your state should be above all else. You should only be concerned with local and state policy.
>>540744924sic semper tyrannis>>540745388Precisely
>>540743265Low IQ zoomer
>>540743217Yes, the anti federalists wanted to prevent a grotesque empire. You Ashkenazi Jewish rats never learn anything.
>>540746670>Antifederalists wanted to undermine state powerShut the fuck up jeet
