>A federal judge ruled that National Firearms Act (NFA) registration requirements are unconstitutional for certain firearms and suppressors. The Department of Justice (DOJ) allowed a stay to expire without appealing.This is the biggest win for gun rights in 92 years!>Who does this apply to?"Designated plaintiffs", any current or future member of GOA (Gun Owners of America)>What does this mean?You can buy short-barreled rifles, shotguns and suppressors without registering them with the federal government and getting special approval>Do I still have to fill out a 4473?Yes, unfortunately>What about machine guns?Still illegal to transfer without the right paperwork. >B-but nothing ever happens!!1!I thought so too, but here we are
The fuck you need an SBR for, nigga? You can't hit shit with that.
>>540738662>Gun Owners of AmericaWait a second.. I missed this part. I am a GoA life member but dont live in those states... can I just buy supressors as I buy any regular firearm?
>>540738811300 blackout you fudd faggot
>>540738662Is that federal judge a supreme court judge?If not, it's a nothing burger.
>>540738811You're obviously not a shooter.
>>540738981>Is that federal judge a supreme court judge?>If not, it's a nothing burger.It's not, and yes this is a nothing burger.The Trump DOJ didn't appeal it because they would of lost all 9 votes at the Supreme court.Where as where they still get to arrest people tomorrow for the same conduct.
>>540738662does this mean i dont need to form 1 my suppressor if i were to make 1?
>>540739070I've used a FAMAS in a real-world situation, you little bitch.>inb4 no you didn'tOh man, you have no idea how glad I am to be back. I don't even care what you can gleam from this at the current moment. If you ever find out who you were talking to here, you're gonna be like "DUDE WHAT THE FUCK."
>>540738662Whats a machine gun
>>540739265Thank you for your service!
>>540738811You can shoot a rabbit
>>540738662Only in America do you have to pay an annual membership fee to a private company before you can exercise your constitutional rights
>>540738662So I can just mount a 14.5" barrel on my rifle without any paperwork?
good job retard not saying anything about the individual private non-commercial manufacture or reconfiguration of SBS, SBR, AOW, or suppressors.
>>540738662>>540738861Apparently to utilize this change:>be a customer of Palmetto State Armory in the past or the present and into the future>be a member of GOA past, present or even temporarilyI'll wait to buy my accessories. Sorry for the cucked states kek. One step closer to true USA.
>>540739428Other countries don't have these rights. If they do have gun ownership, they're not allowed to use them for self-defense.
>>540739443You already could if you pin and weld the muzzle device for a total barrel length of over 16 inches. Or just ignore the ATF and mount whatever regardless
>>540738662Sweet! All my guns are legal now
>>540738811they always had one. Now I can have one too legally.
>>540739540>Or just ignore the ATF and mount whatever regardlessI'm not rolling the dice with blueniggers.
>>540739199My understanding is that so long as you're compliant with local law, with respect to federal law such as the NFA and the 1968 GCA, and this recent ruling, if you are indeed a plaintiff in the case (check this.... easiest way from what I understand is just to join GOA), then yes you can manufacture a suppressor without a Form 1 ATF NFA registration and approval. Similarly so for AOW, SBS, and SBR... but not one is talking about this because our country is full of cuck faggots that a) can't read English and are too illiterate to parse adult level sentences, and b) can't operate a hacksaw or swap a stock around without a youtube video.
>>540739443Sry, this does not apply to girly peashooter like yours. You need something that actully fires bullets thicker than strands of hair.
>>540738662They are allowing Americans to gear up for massive social upheaval.
>>540738811>I don't know anything about this subject but I'm going to comment anyway.
>>540739685Gun expert alert.
>>540738811>The fuck you need an SBR for, nigga?Whatever the fuck I want fag. Deal with it.
>>540738662>gets head shot by a teen with an iron sight 22 firing prone from some bushes 100 yards awayif shit gets weird the only thing worth keeping on that rig is the IR.
>>540739265Nigger no one cares
>>540739428real. Conservatives didnt conserve SHIT
>>540738662I have to join the GOA fedlist to buy it? Haha
>>540739965>Conservatives didnt conserve SHITLet's start with gun rights.
>>540739965There are no assault weapon bans in red states.
>>540739901That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
>>540738811A 12" barrel AK chambered in 7.62x39 only loses like 100- 200 fps compared to a 16" barrel AK. Thats still plenty of velocity to reach out to some medium ranges.
>>540738811draft a comin
>>5407405777.62x39 only comes into its own with hand loading. I happen to hand load it and you can get much better bullets now with the double ogive for incredibly enhanced down-range velocity. Heavier ones too, which is useful in some platforms such as SKS and CZ's range of short action rifles.SKS is actually an incredibly solid and accurate platform and is just a shrunk-down anti-tank rifle, it's way overbuilt for 7.62x39.
>>540740108there shouldnt be any "assault weapon ban" at all
>>540738662>This is the biggest win for gun rights in 92 years!no, that would be FRT
>>540741716Back in the day the Sears Catalog had a page for the Tommy Gun which showed a woman defending her homestead against a group of bandits while hubby was away.
funko pop
tell me like im a retard (im a retard)can i slap an actual stock on my ""pistol"" now without having to go through sbr bullshit?
>>540738861You probably can if your local gun store is a Silencer Shop affiliate, but there’s no official guidance from the ATF or Attorney General yet.
>>540738662You do realize this is a sign that the control grid will be increased. They expect belligerence and are planning accordingly. When they take away land ownership, they want the guns to come out.I'm glad it's finally happening, but it's the agenda is intentionally orchestrated and see-through at this point. Intentional collateral damage because someone has a gun incoming. If the revolution doesn't kick off before the data centers are built, most efforts will be meaningless. Think ahead of the surveillance state to be successful.
>>540739161>It's not, and yes this is a nothing burger.>The Trump DOJ didn't appeal it because they would of lost all 9 votes at the Supreme court.>Where as where they still get to arrest people tomorrow for the same conduct.if they dont appeal 60 days from the decision then it is settled at this level and the NFA has to be changed to matchit's as good as being decided by the SCnot appealing isnt avoiding the decision from being law, its agreeing that it is law
>>540741812Yes but only if you’re a GOA member (not that the Feds have any way of knowing whether you are or not).
>>540738811I hunt grouse with a 410 shot pistol. If I ran a drill down the barrel and smoothed it out, more accurate for BB's, it then becomes an illegal short barreled shotgun. Fucking dumb retards.
b-but its your right..... right?
>>540739443kek it's the fake acog poster!
>>540738662>Do I still have to fill out a 4473?>YesThen it doesn't matter for actual Americans
>$900 for dead air pistol suppressorApparently if you are a GOA member you can legally 3d print suppressors. If you aren't a party to the lawsuit, good luck.But yeah, homemade suppressors are now legal without form 1 or form 4 tax, registration, or serial. Might as well baffle an oil filter can.The sad part is suppressors are considered firearms, and not just an unregulated accessory.
>>540738662usa is truly cucked in terms of gun control. Good to see them getting closer to certain european countries standards. I can order suppressor to pickup box, no questions asked.Few more decades, and maybe they'll learn how to be responsible with guns.
>>540738861>can I just buy supressors as I buy any regular firearm?Anyone can buy suppressors from the plaintiffs. GOA members can legally manufacture suppressors.
All gun laws are infringements and therefore unconstitutional. All ATF agents should hang.
>>540742224As a DSA cardholding member, I actually agree.
>>540739497secret /arg/ thread?
>>540738811There you go with that NEED shit again. We have the RIGHT.
>>540738811Hmm, God given rights protected and enshrined by the constitution. Things are healing.Some nigger cuck from reddit.>You don't need that.Now that you harvested your (you)s fuck off.
>>540739265>If you ever find out who you were talking to hereFaggot. We're talking to a faggot.
>>540739693>allowing >upheavalYou need to internalize the concept of legality. The way it works even now, and the way "they" hope you never realize it works, is that if you attempt something (up to and including government takeover), and no one stops, prosecutes, or imprisons you, then it is by default legal. Is it lawful? That's a different concept. Government has no jurisdiction over the definition of lawful.So you see, you don't even need upheaval to achieve legal ownership of normal items like these. When there is upheaval, all laws go out the window. Whatever you acquire through manufacture, purchase, or conquest is automatically legal.
>>540742697Based and true. I’ll do it just because I can faggot
>>540738811>You can't hit shit with that.You think you're going to be doing home defense at over 50 yards?
>>540738811If you already have a 16 inch ar, you don't really need a 14.5. 14.5 is preferable for being slightly more maneuverable but it isn't worth replacing. I'm getting one just because I want a CHF barrel but otherwise I wouldn't care. The suppressor thing is cool though.
>>540738811Cause they are fun.The barrel has little affect on accuracy (at least at 100-300m and is more about terminal performance) When I move to a non retarded country im going to build a Retro Colt Commando with a fixed carry handle and 11.5 inch barrel.
>>540738662I am a bit confused on what matters with this. So it is legal to buy an SBR from PSA without the NFA but if I buy an upper under 16" and attach it to a PSA complete lower I already own I go to federal prison?
>>540739443Good choice of sling. BFG was my fav in afghanistan.
>>540744956If you are a plaintiff to the case you're allowed to convert anything to SBR legally without form 1, assuming it was legal to form 1 before.For everyone else, maybe. But your dog might get shot.
>>540745070>>540739443>the sticky vickyshiggy diggy
>>540738811It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.
>>540738662I sorta wish the DoJ had appealed and been total retards at SCOTUS so SCOTUS would overturn it (sort of like how SCOTUS upheld it because the defendent had disappeared, so the feds basically argued against nobody and won by default)
>>5407388116.5 grendel is accurate to 1000 yards out of a 10 inch barrel. Stop using 5.56 garbage.
>>540744956Supposedly if you buy a <16" upper from PSA and attach it to a complete lower you already bought from PSA then you're good. PSA YT channel has short a video on it. They have a section on their website all the parts you can buy to make your PSA rile an SBR.
>>540744860I already had a 14.5" AR, never registered it because I'm not a subject. Only difference is now I don't have to worry about glowies when I talk about my SBR.
>>540738811I'll bite. The AR platform is tits with an 10.5 inch barrel both in looks, mobility in tight space, and killer velocity
>>540739265No special forces unit selected bullpups. You dumb french quasi cuck citizen who cant even own a gun.
>>540738811You are a no guns faggot who doesnt know shit
>>540738662I just want to attach a vertical foregrip to my AR Pistol
>>540745886I want a normal stock on my>now legalSBRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WUdEkPruP0
>>540738662Can you now saw off a bbl of a rifle or shotgun?
>>540746794Always could.
>>540746794Yes, you just need to put a PSA sticker on it.
>>540739515>still need a background check and 4473>silencers are still priced at $1000 for a fucking canWake me up when silencers are $50 ship right to me door. I'm not paying $200-1000 for a metal canThe state department should charge all ATF members with treason and publicly hang them.
>>540745135>>540745671Neat. Thanks anons
>>540739497>non commercial manufactureTHIS. Can I buy Chinese parts off amazon and make a silencer for $20? Manufacturing my own gun is legal without a check, why not silencer?
>>540738662lol no. imagine believing kikes are gonna let you have your guns back
>>540739611This is why we need unregulated Destructive Devices. This is a street level arms race that the White/Hispanic Man needs to fight via the law as well as being strapped at all times.
>>540744952>Colt Commando with a fixed carry handle and 11.5 inch barrelThis Leaf gets to live. Please come to America.
>>540738811.45 suppressed SBR is actually the perfect home defense gun.
>>540747390But I already have my guns?
>>540739161this guy gets it. trump and his deepstate kike cronies are not our friends. if trump was remotely progun, he would have already written executive orders forcing the ATF to halt enforcement of all federal gun laws and to delete all of its illegal registries. he doesnt, because hes a deepstate kike.
>>540747201You also have to be a GOA member. It only costs 25 dollars though.
>>540739265it was nice of you to let the soldier pose with your gun but yo tiddays are showing so pull up your dress bitch
>>540739443you always could, you were born with the innate right to do whatever you want when it comes to owning and bearing weapons. its literally the second item in the bill of rights
>>540739497There's a gun there? It must be expertly camouflaged. I simply cannot make out the lines of any gun there.
>>540747477Trump just let 27 states almost entirely ignore the NFA? You don't think pigs are going to be sweating that a bunch of niggers, anarchists, and libertarians are better armed than them? Lmao. Trump is making it look like he did nothing, on purpose.
>>540738662So what funs do we get back exactly?
>>540747487This is the funniest part>you can buy silencers but only if you become a pro-gun advocateGOA will be able to fund more lawsuits thanks to all the Mexicans becoming members. Next up I think felons will have their rights restored. Zogbots and terrorist pigs/judges are sweating at these kinds of rulings.
>>540738662Still waiting for word about how it effects SBRs in WA. A grandfathered AW can be SBRd and there isn't a registration clause for SBRs so it seems like we can just put a stock on our AR pistols if we have them.
>>54074762027 states if you are a customer of PSA or GOA memberyou can now purchase silencers, SBRs, and SBSes like normal firearms. No ATF fuckery. You order the silencer to your local FFL and they do a check as normal. Gun stores can now sell silencers, SBRs, and sawn off shotguns IF THERE ARE NO STATE LAWS PROHIBITING THE ABOVE. Manufacturing hasn't been talked about.
>>540747594>You don't think pigs are going to be sweating that a bunch of niggers, anarchists, and libertarians are better armed than them?The thing is, those criminals didn't care about the NFA. They've always had those tools! What difference does it make now? Law-abiding citizens have tools now as well?
>>540747690State laws are unaffected. Also depends if your sheriff is cool and says he won't enforce bullshit state laws.
>>540747690AOW should also be 100% legal in Washington if its a pump or a break action.
>>540747700Well silencers are quite nice and being able to buy a sawn off barrels is helpful.
>>540747730No, now their supply is easier. Their one non felon buddy can straw purchase a pile of suppressors and it won't look any more suspicious than their normal straw purchases.
>>540747464your real guns not that neutered cucked shit in your closet
>>540747737There is no state law about SBR other than its an AW and you must comply with the feds. I don't think what the state troopers said is exactly accurate.And people will sue for suppressors too, muh rule of lenity
KIKES SEETHINGFREEMASON PEDOPHILE COPS AND JUDGES SHITTING THEIR PANTSLIBERALS CRYINGMOSSAD IS GONNA DO A MASS SHOOTING WITH A SILENCED FULL AUTO AND I GUARANTEE THEY WOLL HAVE BEEN GROOMED BY KIWIFARMS AND THE SHARTYJURY NULLIFICATIONJURY NULLIFICATIONJURY NULLIFICATION
>>540747453It is beautiful for sure.
>>540747774>now their supply is easierThey've always had supplies. You didn't hear about those glowie crackdowns on Temu gear? They've always had these tools. Maybe they'll have nicer, name-brand ones now like Surefire or StealthAdditive. Now the BS part you mentioned is that there are states that opt not to follow Federal ruling. That's the real dumb part
>>540747487That can't be legal right? It's already $0 for registration, and if you're a PSA customer you don't have to register. What would GOA have to do with anything? I can see this quickly be stricken. How can some loser cop prove you are or aren't a member of GOA? "Are you a member?" "Maybe." "Where's your card?" "Left it at home."
>>540747815Never believe a word from a pig's mouth, because they lie on purpose and they aren't the prosecutor.>>540747453For me, its the five seven and p90.
>>540747879Thats the BEST PART. Its a get out of jail free card. It flips theirguilty until proven innocent on the cop.>is this legal?>yes, eat shitWill a cop risk losing his job if he thinks youre lying? If you dont show up as a felon they can get fucked.
>>540747893Yeah a full auto P90 would be a good home defense gun.
>>540738662Try that is California.....
>>540747879>How can some loser cop prove you are or aren't a member of GOA?he cannot- because there is no process in place to check or enforce it>SIR, I NEED TO SEE YOUR PALMETTO STATE ARMORY ACCOUNT PURCHASE HISTORY AS IDENTIFICATIONbottom line is, this whole debacle is unnecessary. If states followed the Constitution of the United States, this process would not have to occur. These laws for tools are unconstitutional no matter what.
Reminder these laws only matter because Freemason child molester Jews have infiltrated law enforcement across the nation. These laws were never constitutional yet pigs will ruin lives and kill over them with glee.
>>540747239yes you can, technically
>>540738662Whats the catch? The kikes are doing/allowing this for a reason. The US is imploding and allowing this makes me think >they want Americans to kill each other, or>Trump did this to win back republicucks for midterms, or >kikes own PSA
>>540747962You have no idea how many times I tried to get this shit across to the Sovereign Citizen guys. They wouldn't listen believing some magic skullduggery was allowed to be used by the same corrupt courts and officials to "defeat" them with a few select words. All of this bullshit is backed by implied or explicit violence, otherwise it's non existent.
>>540739265>from redd*t frog retard to elite operatorYou're nobody, a shitposting retard that's never held a gun in his life.
>>540741924JUST GO DONATE $100 FOR THEIR SERVICE
>>540747879>A qualifying PSA AR pistol can be configured with a stock by a GOA member. A qualifying complete PSA rifle can be configured with a shorter-barreled upper by a GOA member.https://palmettostatearmory.com/blog/nfa-challenge-lawsuit-ruling.html
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>>540746212Oh shit didn't think of it like that LOL might switch out upper and lowers next time. I got one of those giant broom handle foregrips in the mail yesterday thanks dude!
>>540748375"Buying from PSA" being a qualifying factor is hilarious. Its like "if youre a smoker who ever smoked Marlboro." Anyone into guns has bought from PSA.
You anons are pretty cool.Don't come to school tomorrow.
>>540738662Correct. It is unconstitutional. The federal government should not have ANY say in what gun you own. You should be able to own a rifle of any length or suppressor of your choosing. What a joke. It's Americans who are cucked by laws of a federal government saying what they can and can't own.
>>540748586You're rapemeat.
>>540748586we aint never shakin ass
>>540745743Don’t they say 20 inch for 556 and 223 give maximum velocity though?
Means a whole lot of jack shit
>>540748702Jews are who cucked America. Infiltrated in the 1800s and seized government control by 1900. Thats why we fought Germany in ww2, Jews controlled us. Since then its been a slow march to tyranny and Jewish fascism. It picked up speed in the 80s with the war on drugs I mean freedom. Then in the 90s OFFstarted directly training our police and letting them fuck kids in Israel.>>540748838Yes but that doesnt matter. Most combat is close range (300m or less) which is why assault rifles are the most common. Long range precision shooting has special cartridges and rifles, normally 308 or better. Ammo capacity and shot placement are more important than velocity.
*IDF started training police
Americans should take advantage of this window of opportunity because it will be closed eventually. Plus things might kick off soon. Also get FRTs. And take over the jewish government, synagogues and freemason lodges.
>>540738662>What about machine guns?Still illegal to transfer without the right paperwork. What's the logic here for why you're not allowed to just make your own?
>>54074883820" barrels was mainly because its the optimal length for M855 armor piercing green tip. But it turns out basic ball M193 out of an SBR is actually a more devastating wound.
