Redpill:>it's not the carbs>it's not the sugar>it's not the seed oilsYou're fat because you eat too much. Put the fork down and go for a walk you utter fucking retard.
>>540751943OMAD is the cheat code to losing weight. As long as you can deal with feeling occasional hunger pains in the afternoon, you eat a big dinner in the early evening and coast on that for the rest of the night. It is super easy. I lost 120 lbs doing it. You can even have a pretty varied diet because ~1500 calories in one meal is a fuck ton. Most of the time I couldn't even finish it and would only eat around 1100-1200, and I weighed over 300 lbs. Chicken and beans are your best friends. Throw in some potatoes and some veggies and you're golden.
>>540751943Nah it's the poisons.
>jew tells you to stop eating foodthat always works out well
>>540751943Just take black market GLP-1. Problem solved.
>>540751943it is the carbs you moron
>>540752118>t. megalardo mcfatass
>>540752141He's right tho. Not only do they keep the fat on, high carb foods also have a high glycemic index in most cases and put you at risk of diabetes.
>>540751943Chaude is saying I shouldn't only condom protoid powder and carrots while building a palletoid shed and a 10x20 thoughevermost in order to lose the last shred of fat and have a well defined jawline
>>540752194wrong, people get fat by overeating. If you're fat just eat less and you'll lose weight, if your not then eat even less.
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>>540752062Seriously. How could jews be so insensitive? Given the history of jewish bolsheviks starving millions to death, its wrong for them to echo these hateful and genocidal loxist canards of the past.
>>540751943it’s also the lifestyle. Life was never meant to be going from one building to another till you die. You ought be running on the plains of the Sahara or living in the woods
>>540751943The carbs is the thing that takes you out if ketosis which is what fasting achieves. Going carb free is basically mild fasting, but unlike fasting which can only be done for days at a time, keto can be held indefinitely.
>>540751943if you restrict yourself to 50 grams of carbs a day you will lose ten pounds a month eating more calories than you did previously while doing zero exercise. I've done this. op is a nigger
>>540752238But I need to keep on muscle and carbs don't do that so good
>>540752238wrong.
Hahahahha how tf is being fat real?Like just don't eat nigga ahahhahaLike just don't buy food
>>540752292try not eating food for a month and watch what'll happen. I repeat that the reason why people are fat is because they overeat, eat less and you'll lose weight.
>>540752238No, your stomach can only hold so much. If you're filling it with processed grains and sugar as the bulk of your diet you're going to become fat as fuck. You can switch to higher quality food like meat and fruit and feel satiated without packing on the pounds and destroying your pancreas.
>>540751943Reminder that fasting is stupidly easy and everyone who struggles with it is a pussy.The muslims always complain at ramadan and thats not even real fasting.T. Hasn't eaten in 3 days.
>>540752387>your sToMaCH CaN oNLy HoLd so MuChThen explain how fatasses can eat a whole pizza in one sitting then
>>540752005Sounds like a great way to end up yo-yo’ing. Isn’t that really bad for you?
>>540752264Most animals just sit around doing nothing all day. Something like a cow just stands around eating grass all day and sits on 500 pounds of raw muscle. Exercise is a meme.
>>540752464Yeah but if you're hiking in and out if a gulch daily to build a palleTOID shed it's definitely not as easy
>>540751943If the success of GLP1 drugs proves anything, it's that the "just eat less" stance is retarded.>Nothing psychological changes, just the way the body signals hunger and handles foodIt's liquid self discipline!
stop eating cattlecarbs
>>540752488You just pace yourself a bit and use cola to help stretch the stomach with the CO2 pressure. That's how I normally do it.
Just do a proper PSMF and thats it. You will barely lose any muscle mass as opposed with regular fasting.
>>540752557>it's not my fault for stuffing my face full of donuts every day it's the body signalslmao, fattie cope
>>540752530>>540752290>>540752247Wow I really terraformed that foundation huhhttps://youtu.be/s64HwyhHlW4
>>540752530You only have to build it once. Unless its your job.
Eastern European here, dont eat after 8pm. That's it.
>>540752634Luv me donuts.
>>540752720I have to build a 10x20 next. Then dig out an earthshipAnd massive earthen walls in the meantime to stop noids from dogs and generators und schiebe echoing through the gulchAnd a berm sauna
>OMAD>no sugar>low carb>no goyslop>daily exercise >down 12kg>coworkers tell me that by starving I am putting all the weight in when I do eat and that my brain needs sugar to function Why are normgroids so retarded
>>540752634Then how do you explain it.Does injecting a drop of liquid every week make you a better and more disciplined human?You can still feel superior if you want, but it's not based in reality. Any fatso can achieve the same results with a drug.
>>540751943Its just energy conservation.If you take in more than you need you get fat.Some foods are hatder to break down, some have more kalories that get metabolized differently, but those are just details that nutritional scientists change every few years to sell you more books.
>>540752889They infected AI too. >Claude, how many scoops of whey and how many carrots per day to reach peak shredded at 18%BF >NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT CRASH DIETS DON'T WORK
>>540752891>Then how do you explain it.calories in = calories out, simple as>Any fatso can achieve the same results with a drug.ya with major side effects
Why do fat muslims exist?
>>540753000>why do fat... exist?because they overeat anon
>>540752964>with major side effectsThere's literal zero side effects other than the positive benefits of not being fat. Nutrient deficiency related problems don't count as side effects since it's not directly caused by the drug itself and is just bad diet management.
>>540753306>fatties generally belive this
>>540752938
>>540753000>Ah yes Ramadan fasting I am so tough>Wake up at 4am, pig out>Sun sets, pig out
I started at 235 pounds, now I'm 217. I eat only every other day. Been only a month or so.
>>540753443Yes, many people using GLP-1 drugs are on them for over a year and don't manage their nutrient intake during this time. So surprise surprise they end up with bone and muscle degeneration related problems. It's an easily solvable issue by just doubling up GLP-1 with growth hormone secretagogues and exercise memetic drugs.
>>540753443Shikata ga nai
>>540753561>do drugs, get weak bonesor>stop overeating, don't get weak bonesit's not hard to put the food down anon
>>540751943Its my glandular disorder. My cells are unable to process my food into energy, efficiently. Also, my body stores fat as a first tier operation, where as a normal healthy body would use that food energy to power it.
energy cannot legally enter your body, just stop eating if you want to lose weight
>>540753631Eat only every other day retard. Oh you are retarded? More excuses.
>>540751943You're an ignoramusIf you eat right, you can lose fat faster than fasting. And yes, it's the carbs.
>>540751943No It's the aliens
>>540753629I prefer to put no effort at all in tho and still be able to enjoy food. You won't get weak bones with growth hormone added to the mix. If it's really an issue you can do a couple steroid cycles to toughen the bones up.
>>540752194This is true but regular fasting is one of the most surefire way to prevent diabetes. Fad diets and soientific nutrition are just cope to pig out and avoid any sort of spiritual discipline. Do a black fast for Lent next year and you'll understand at the end how much better it is.
>>540753480>you might as well spend the day with your mouth in a chicken's asskek
>>540753675>OY VEY THE PROBLEM THAT STARTED 100 YEARS AGO IS CAUSED BY SOMETHING WE ATE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!1111>LOOK THIS FILTHY LYING KIKE SAYS SO THAT MEANS IT IS 100% TRUE!1111
>>540752889Your brain does need glucose to function properly. That is a sugar.
>>540752141OP is too poor and homeless to afford food so he makes a thread to sneed about rich fat people haaa
>>540753712enjoy your ozempic face then
>>540753755They think it's refined sugar, the white stuff from packets Ketosis takes care of that
>>540753772>i-if you don't over eat your poorwrong, cope and seethe fattie
>>540752557Modern foods alter how hunger is signalled. We are not evolved to eat loads of sugar, toxins and chemicals. If you eat only animal foods there isn't this problem, hunger matches your body's needs perfectly and you can eat to satiation and never get fat.
>>540753674I can't do that. I would suffer immensely. I got hypoglycemia due to my glandular issues.
>>540753855You are the one coping poorfag lmaoI'm not the one making the threads and crying about it:D
>>540753729The drugs are better since they directly manipulate metabolism and keep it locked in a high state even under significant food deficit. The major value of these drugs is how they alter metabolic and digestion rates that wouldn't be possible under normal circumstances. Routine fasting normally leads to metabolic disruption in normal circumstances.
>>540753950I'm not the one stuffing my face full of food every day, cope fattie>>540753964>drugs are betterlmao
>>540753803Just inject GHK-Cu for that to tighten the skin up while fat is being depleted. It's mostly a clickbait news story with horror pictures out of Hollywood that people are mistaking for buccal fat removal surgeries.
>>540754052>just take more drugsor you can just not overeat
>>540752557GLP-1 literally makes you have the appetite to eat less.
>>540754015>experts warn of clickbait goynews concern based on theories with no backing
>>540754144>theories with no backingyou mean like the carbs bs
>>540753518It's funny to see certain Muslims act like skipping lunch is an act of intense spiritual devotion.
>>540754122Why tho, the drugs are better and you can still eat without having to perform some retarded self-flagellation exercise to prove something to yourself that no one cares about.
>Its not eating things you shouldn't, its eating things you shouldn't
>>540754195I do it every day, dinner tooWhere's my four part documentary
>>540754015>I'm not the one stuffing my face full of foodYes, because you can't afford it poorfagSeethe
>>540754212>drugs are betterexcept their not>perform some retarded self-flagellation exercisefattie thinks not stuffing your face full of food is retarded exercise, lmao
>>540752005Idk bro I could've eaten +3k calories on one sitting when I was younger no problem. I lost weight by doing a lot of water fasting, it was difficult, but it taught me how to control my eating so I lost weight and kept it off. Most people live a sedentary lifestyle too so you don't need to eat much to maintain a fat weight
/pol/ is probably one of the fatter boards.
>>540754288cope fattie, drop the food and go for a walk
>>540754160It's pretty well known at this point that diets primarily of high carbohydrate foods lead to both weight gain and insulin resistance. The caloric density is extremely high and they break down into digestible sugars faster than the body can reasonably handle. And since they digest so quickly they pass through the digestive system at an accelerated rate which contributes to overconsumption through more meals over time.
>>540754212You live in Canada there is an arena near you get skating fatty
Like lol if you eat less then that also means you will be eating less carbs, sugar and seed oils, how is this even disagreeing
>>540754403>its the carbohydrates fault that I eat a whole pizza, 5 bigmacs, and a taco 12 packlmao
/pol/ fitness and nutrition threads are always peak hillbilly niggergoy retardation.
>>540754294>abloo bloo drugs are bad because muh lord and savior Ronald Reagan issued a proclamation on the matterImagine waving away all the human advancement in pharmacology and medical science as if it's nothing.
>>540751943You're also fat because you consume too much caffeine, which flushes out your metabolic nutrients and locks your mind and body up with tension, making you stiff and uncomfortable and unable to move with fluidity and lightnessIt's the caffeine
>>540754437Why tho, I've been losing 10 pounds per month on retatrutide without having to do anything other than buy more steak and fruit to eat.
>>540754525>muh soienceImagine wanting weak bones as if it's nothing
>>540754332There are several videogame boards tho
>>540754494This is /pol/ retardation is the name in the game
OMAD fixed any problems I had with weight. It's not just that it will help you lose weight, it's that it will completely unfuck your system and you won't be constantly grazing like a cow.After losing 15kg with OMAD I've never had problems with weight. I just naturally don't too early in the morning and don't eat before sleep.
>>540754482Those are unnatural foods though, they convert to body fat easily but don't suppress the subconscious hunger signal. Most people have better things to do than monitor their food intake which is the source of the problem.
If don't want to get fat consume portions of less mass. Calories do not affect mass, in simple case. Of course there are quantum effects, but I assure you quantum effects do not make you fat.
>>540752834>donutsPshaw -- Deep-Fried Twinkies™ are the true master race
>>540754668Fixed my heartburn too
>>540751943fasting is great for a few thingsincluding detox
>>540754584>weight loss leads to the body not needing extra strong bones because it doesn't have to lug around 50kg of extra weight>iTs tHe oZeMpIc bLuEtOoTh biLL gAtEs rAdIaTiOnwhy are normoids so dumb?
>>540754584You don't get weak bones when you also boost growth hormone with other drugs. You keep bringing this up like it's something that can't be easily countered.
>>540751943Muslims don't fast for real, they actually gorge themselves at night and gain weight during ramadan because of it.
>>540754581>10 pounds per monthHow fat were you. Thats enough to kill a normal sized person. You do it because you need to use muscles in order for them to function properly. It makes literally everything else in life easier once you start regularly excercising vigorously as you get stronger. Your brain releases massive amounts of dopamine when you push yourself to its limit. That then improves brain functioning, creativity and the base level of happiness in your life.You cant get all that from drugs. Most of it maybe, but I wouldnt want to see that cocktail.
>>540754668>unknowingly eating less fixed my problemwow dude you're some baltic genius
>>540752488because they've stretched it over years of habitually overeatingretarddo you not know how anything works?
>>540754746All religions are facade-centered con-artistry
>>540754675retard, it doesn't matter what you eat just how much. you can eat bigmacs everyday and not get fat, because you don't eat to much if it and thus not gain weight
>>540751943You retard fasting makes you lose muscle.Physical work is the only correct answer.
>>540754766so then you agree that overeating cause one to get overweight>retardprojection
>>540754763>Tranny jeet losing xir mindI did it to not get insulin spikes after seeing studies that prove your insulin spikes at predictable times like on a timer as your body anticipates food at certain times.Eating less did not fix any of my problems. I spent years ''eating less'' and it only made me hungry and depressed, and I didn't know why. Fixing insulin through OMAD was the only thing that actually helped.
>>540754138that's the lesser of the two effects. the other one is reducing food noise (altering your dopamine chasing reward loop). this is why people on glp1 tend to quit smoking and lose other addictions, too
>>540751943It's the parasites. You can fast as much as you want, the little food you do eat will be sapped of nutrients and you will get nothing, hence the instinct to eat more. Eventually you will have a choice to literally get malnourished and turn into a living pickle in a constant sense of agony, get fat and get some nourishment or start to terminate parasites - as far as I'm aware I'm not even sure if that's even possible in today's spiritual world. I don't blame the fatties. They might be starving just as much as a skinny person.
>>540754762I was just over 200 pounds and decided I don't feel like being fat. The act of exercising releases signals in the body that you're talking about. You can just inject the biochemical signals exogenously without having to put any effort in and get a similar result, it preserves muscle mass.
>>540754846>I spent years eating less>went from eating 5 bigmacs to 3
>>540754675>Those are unnatural foods though, they convert to body fat easily but don't suppress the subconscious hunger signalfucking pseudoscience nonsense
>>540754877Oh yeah>just stop eating broWell then the parasite will just eat your body and organs. Starved people have no hair, gray skin and weak bones.
>>540754797>Source: my assEvery study ever done shows people lose less muscle during fasting than through regular caloric deficit.Cardio is not a viable way to lose weight. It takes hours of psychical activity to burn 200 kcal and you can undo that in one bite.
>>540754846dude didn't read your rationalization novella. it's just very hard to eat more than the roughly 2500 kcal you need a day in one sitting. but it's really easy to eat more than that in multiple sittings over one day.that's why OMAD works for you. it makes it really hard for you to over eat.all that other insulin hormone bullshit is just feminine rationalization to save your fragile ego because deep down you know that you are just a little fat piggy that left to its own devices would be a really fat piggy in no time
>>540754825pay attention to IDs retard
>>540754784You'll always feel hungry tho and I'm not interested in portion sizing. The drugs provide a subconscious consumption limit on food which is better.
>>540754797This is sensible, but constant labor ages you and saps your life energy. Laboring slaves have the most miserable, shortest lives. The slowest moving animals have the longest lives.
>>540754762>muh muscle lossanother normoid cope on why they won't lose weightyou don't lose muscle fibers. they just get thinner. the "lost" muscle mass is stupidly easy to rebuild once you start lifting after weight lossit's literally the "I won't lift weights because I don't want to look like arnold/the hulk" excuse but for fat people
>>540754909lol cope more and stay fat.Muscle excercise is the only way, retard.
>>540754954Now, now, just calm down Here, let me help you by gently resting my giant veiny dong across the top of your head and down the bridge of your nose
>>540754961>You'll always feel hungry thono you wouldn't
>>540754941>dude facts don't matter bro>the scientific method is wrong>your real life experiences don't matter even when they line up perfectly with all the evidence and can be measured and observeddilate
>>540754973do it until your muscles sore retard and then stop Mix it with proper meals.If yuo didnt excersise since childhood you will forever be dysgenic piece of shit.
>>540754907In case it wasn't obvious that this here is Ken-sensei, assistant teacher
>>540751943*Ahem*Genetics.The average 4channer is 30% over their body height BMI, being a little big boned is reasonable here.Sir, please don't criticize the extra weight, we've all tried dieting and fasting here on 4chan, it just doesn't work, those with higher IQ that browse 4chan are predisposed to having higher body fat percentages, because the brain is mostly fats, we have more neurons than the average normies, therefore our bodies require more fat cells at it's disposal.
>>540752194>>540752118you are fucking retarded. every diet works by CICO, either directly or indirectly. you can lose weight on pure carbs or keto or whatever so long as you eat less than you spend.
>>540755035>your real life experiences don't mattercorrect
>>540755063this potato nigger is correctglycemic index doesn't play a role if you're not over eating. if your body doesnt have a shitload of extra energy to store all day every day you wont get direbeetus. simple es.ofc it's hard to stay in a deficit on carbs alone because of the hunger but that's another story
>>540754846>>540755035whether you're losing weight and whether you feel like shit while losing weight are completely unrelated issues.to lose weight, all you need is CICO. to keep yourself on CICO for extended periods of time, you need to eat items that don't feel like shit on a schedule that doesn't feel like shit. the insulin spike thing is true, 1-2 regular meals a day help with it. but it's a quality of life issue, not a weightloss issue.
>>540754905>humans evolved through the ages on a diet of powderized man-made strains of grain that are further processed to remove all the fiber and then mixed into horror "food" concoctions beyond human imagination along with gallons of liquified sugar concentrate made by breaking down polysaccharides into their unnatural base monosaccharides which are filtered to extract out the higher value glucose.
>>540755032You would, which is why everyone in the Western world is fat as fuck.
>>540755128the problem is most people are pathologically averse to counting calories so they want some magic bullet diet that will do this for them somehow. the optimal thing that most athletes and bodybuilders do is have a regular meal schedule of things that hit a specific calorie, protein, fat etc target and also don't make you feel like shit after eating. obviously if you eat a mcburger meal designed to spike your insulin and make you crave seconds, you will feel like shit and want more, even if the kcal is below your TDEE
>>540754797>i'll lose a bit of strength if im hungry help me
>>540751943That sure explains why no other country but the hypercapitalist shithole of america has an obesity level so high. It's got nothing to do with our artificial food optimized for profit margins, please don't look at the food or the billionaires will starve!
>>540755234yeah my man. counting calories can be absurdly easy: just sit down in the morning and enter what you're going to eat over the day. then eat that.it even helps with discipline: not on my plan - not gonna eat it.but even that is too much for the normoid npc. they rather up their GLP1 dose until they need to switch to the next more expensive med
>>540755306no one forces you to eat that slop. we're not better here in west germany. we have a shitload of slop filling our grocery stores, too. but there's no commissar with a gun forcing you to buy that shit
>>540755063It is CICO but there are other factors. What you eat can change how your body processes it. Your fat storages can become inaccessible. Instead of burning more calories your body can burn through what you ate and then can't burn fat so it starts burning muscle.There are several mechanisms that make fat inaccessible for energy.It's stupid to not consider the psychological side of eating.I gained weight because I was a skinny kid and wanted to get swole, so I started doing bodybuilding and forcing myself to overeat. I've spent more time thinking about this and reading studies than some retards who just go ''durr it's just CICO you fat fuck!!!'' when I've tried all I can try to get low fat% without losing muscle mass.Fasting is the only thing that worked for me to get exactly what I want without feeling like shit, without losing muscle mass, without constantly craving food.Martins Licis does fasting too and recommends it for strength training.
>>540755128>glycemic index doesn't play a role if you're not over eatingYes it does, if the food you're eating has a consistently high glycemic index and causes your blood sugar to excessively peak you're going to cause insulin resistance. It's a matter of rates not total quantity. Which means you could over-eat on high carbohydrate low glycemic index food and not be at risk of diabetes compared to another person who is slim and portion controls their meals but is prediabetic.
>>540751943I just started weighing everything, being calorie aware, dealing with being hangry once in a while and have lost over 40 lbs since February. No special diet, no exercise, just eating less.
>>540755301Retard, fasting makes you lose cells in brain too.Hormones adapt to food scarcity so they start storing fat.
>>540755372Who has the money to afford natural food in this economy? You pay a premium for "healthy" food tax unless it's grain, even then it's gmo roundup shit.
>>540754525>>540754581You act as if there are no trade offs or side effects. Its a man made chemical. It will not work perfectly. Especially since you're offloading 100% of the responsibility onto said chemical, There will be a downside......you just haven't found out what.....yet
>>540752118i eat carbs and i am not fat at all. Eat less move more
>>540751943It's unironically your genetics, given that you can't move to a country where delicious ultraprocessed food is rare. How much you eat long term if there's UPF around is determined by your genes and nothing else. Will power doesn't matter, diets do not work after 5 years.If you're fat you've got a choice. Become vegan and stick to it RELIGIOUSLY or go on a GLP1.
>>540751943hyperthyroid causes weight loss through high metabolism, but it leads to weight gain in a part of the population because of increased appetite. you see its never the fats own fault. even though they should literally experience relative weight loss, their medical condition is increased appetite.
>>540755598Not all drugs come with negative side effects. Pharmacology doesn't work on ying-yang karma. Some substances produce negative effects that have to be considered as tradeoff value, other substances have negligible negative side effects.
>>540752238Fasting triggers the same lipolysis process that not eating carbs does. When your body is depleted of the immediate bloodstream energy from the food you ate (breaking the carbs down into glucogen strings) it switches to using your bodies stored fat.The reason the body has a weight gaining interaction with carbs is that traditionally, in a pre-agrarian society, foods that were carbs, aka fruit, roots, etc., did not appear in the winter months, at least took time to grow again. Meaning the body utilises the glycogen from carbs as a "get fat while you can" mechanism, allowing energy to be stored for later.Fasting works the best, for obvious reasons, then it's something like keto, then just overall lower calorie restriction (in terms of effectiveness for weight loss).I myself eat carbs and have lost weight this summer, but that's because I've been running and working out most days and do a 40 minute walk to work, so yes, obviously carbs aren't my enemy, but I'm not a lardass.If you are, avoid carbs.
>>540753712>You won't get weak bones with growth hormone added to the mix. If it's really an issue you can do a couple steroid cycles to toughen the bones upCaptain Canada everyoneIf your roids make you bald just hop on fin BRUh
>>540755563Beans/chicken/eggs (you can even amke your own eggs/chicken with grains/bugs). Fish/shell fish.Eat a plam worth of protein with a fist of carbs (side dish) 2x every day. + 2 snacks (cottage chesse/mocarela/kefir/pumkin seeds). That is about 2000kcal which is the base metabolism for big boys.Use a hime bike at least 30min a day and do chalystenics (gym rings/rtx) , push ups and physical rehabilatation exercises of abbs. The ruber band for biceps/tricdps.Creatine 3-5g ia cheap/safe and the real miracle drug not ozempic. Drink water (black/green tea) and/or fermented kombucha (home made) and enjoy the slow transfotmation.Ps. Do bloodworks 1x yearnto see fats/cholesterol and any occult mineral def. To.fix it. Cooming to much causes low Zinc and liver enzyme deficiency. Alos.do pancreatic cancer markers given the spike post covid just to be safe
>>540755063This is why it is, in fact, the seed oils.It's not "inflammation" or whatever, it's that the American diet is stuffed with calories you don't even know are there.All of our bread is literally "pre-buttered" in seed oils, but nobody even realizes it.Americans overeat because they don't know they are overeating, seed oils provide zero satiety.This is also why you can't blame "lack of willpower" either.People's bodies have no idea how to register seed oil calories, so your body tells you that you're starving even when over maintenance.
>>540755888Finasteride is good though and steroids get more flak than they should only because often people using them over do it and take street drugs at the same time and don't take any protective ancillaries.
>>540751943Willpower is only a valid explanation for cross sectional analysis not time dynamics.If a country is getting fatter over time, those calories have to come from somewhere. And yes, they are coming from seed oils. The supply chain itself was stuffed with calories without anyone's knowledge or consent.
>>540755315Calories don'tmakeyoufatyou retard
>>540753631Maybe you actually have this problem and that is unlucky, but 99% of fatties are only fat because they overeat
>>540753518One thing is bothering me. What Muslims in Norway are doing when their ramadan is in June?
>>540755781Lucky for you your brand new miracle juice is 100% consequence freeBesides the consequences that you have to use more drugs to fix>>540755890Based Czechian
>>540755502>femoid rationalizationjust stop
>>540756010You should think twice before evangelizing this because you're probly the only person on Earth besides Pfizer Inc who thinks what you are doing is a good ideaIt's your body to turn into a science experiment if you choose, but how long have you been on this path? Doesnt seem like long based on your posts
>>540755506ok, retard. stay fat and diabetic.
>>540756218>Lucky for you your brand new miracle juice is 100% consequence freeCorrect, short chain peptide drugs aren't such a big deal simply because their breakdown products are just amino acids. They have to be formed as complex very specific long chain proteins in order to be harmful which is normally seen in natural venoms and poisons. This is different from novel small molecule drugs where things like stereoisomers and breakdown products can leave a lot of unknowns.
>>540755909you go on to contradict yourself in the first two lines of your post. "it is in fact the seed oils, it's the calories!" okay, so it's not the seed oils then. everyone in this thread is talking past each other, the value of a calorie and the nutrition that comes with it (only an ignoramus would say that 100 calories from broccoli has the same nutritional value as 100 calories from coca cola) is a different thing entirely from weight loss or gain, the laws of thermodynamics and surplus calories in the body and how they act. seed oils are bad for general health because of how they're processed, if you're getting fat off them it's because you're eating too much of them. therefore, weight gain due to seed oil consumption is entirely about the total caloric intake of said seed oils.
>>540755563you don't need "natural whole organic marketing food". just don't by hyper processed slop. hell, I bet even you can afford a sack of potatoes. boil them. those are super filling and have absurdly low calories per volume. or buy a sack of rice. then some veggies. you don;t need those expensive "organic" ones - just buy the cheapest onces. they're still infintiely better than cheez whiz or whatever you tend to eatthen get some cheap nonprocessed meati know the spergs all talk about hIgH qUaLiTy meat and food and shit and they're somehow right but even getting the low end cheap shit is still 1000x better than buying some kraft ready to eat powder for the microwave
>>540752062I still remember when faux history geeks came out of the woodworks all at once to blame Russians for holodomor when the war began, and how quickly that subsided. I guess the jewish nature was too obvious and it was a great opener for the Russian famines (I never would have known if the jewish agents hadn't kept blapping on about holodomor).
>>540754336I probably walk more and weigh less than you but at least i'm not poor and can afford food lemmaooFoodstamp begging seething niggerboy
>>540756361But I'm only still moderately fat and not diabetic and my blood pressure is at a healthy level.
>>540755598the side effects of being an obese hamplanet are far worse than whatever the concern trolls could come up with for ozempic
>>540752194Acquired diabetes is caused firstly by a broken fat metabolism, which hac knockoff effects on general liver function. I forgot the details. At any rate overweight itself is the direct cause. Carbs are only a problem after you have aquired these problems.
>>540756145you say that only because belarussians cant afford calories
>>540751943Lol, I've lost 20kg in year not fasting but eating way more vegetables and fruit (still 140 g of protein daily, mostly from turkey), always been full necer hungry and im stronger and leaner>also my poop is great, I wipe my ass basicslly pro forma and because I'm not living on the edge
>>540756351Actually you can significantly improve your quality of life and stave off the effects of age related decline through the use of specific drugs. Apply your post to regular people who drink alcohol and caffeinated drinks and smoke everyday and realize you just sound insane.
>>540751943>you just need to stop eating so much
>>540756592I say it because I hate jewish lies, especially when they are perpetuated by goyim.
>>540751943It's not necessarily carbs but the seed oils which is carbohydrates you fat American faggoy
>>540756506post pic of fridge and last grocery bill then
>>540756466You're missing the point, ChatGPT.Yes, people ARE EATING TOO MUCH SEED OIL CALORIES.So the solution is to CUT SEED OILS OUT OF YOUR DIET.To help you better understand the point: nobody is chugging basedbean oil. It's flavorless, and has no satiety effects.The basedbean/canola oil that is driving the excess calories, was snuck into everyday food. Again, the bread on the grocery shelf is *pre-buttered* with seed oils, but nobody is aware of it.
CICO, aka "flat calorie theory" is the most garbage pseudoscience of all time.Quantifying the amount of food you eat by the amount of heat it releases when burned in a pure oxygen atmosphere is just stupid. It has nothing to do with how the human body works. The human body does not work with combustion, like a gasoline engine does.Flat calorie believers will tell you that eating 2,000kcal of steak and eggs will have the exact same effect as eating 2,000kcal of pasta, pizza, cake, cookies and candy.You have to be braindead to believe this.
>>540751943But it is the carbs though
>>540756837>t. fatass
>>54075686126 posts in denial.You do you man
>>540756808go back to /fat/ ketoschizo
>>540752005I've been eating one meal a day for basically my whole adult life and have never gotten fat. I eat whatever I want and make zero effort to eat "healthy" but because I simply don't eat much, I don't get fat.
>>540756917>denialI'm not the one who's overweight
You need to be calorie conscious when you eat less. Eat steak, cottage cheese, eggs, potatos, mushrooms, carrots and sliced bread with organic jellies. Cutting out carbs won't make you lose any fat, cutting carbs will make you lethargic and unhealthy. Your body needs carbohydrates for hydration. Your brain and muscles maintain themselves by sugar and organ meat's vitamins.
>>540751943imagine, a human can survive without eating more than 4 weeks but we eat daily 3 times or more... i mean if your doing lots of sports or other exhausting activities than maybe eating 2 times is ok, but otherwise its even ok to eat every two days
>>540756978It seems like a very sensitive topic for you so I beg the differ.I get that you are thinking purely calories which is 98% correct.You can get fat by overeating anything BUT excess protein and excess carbs are not essentially the same due to how your body burns them off and how they affect your appetite(Appetite is a big one)Your body has no storage tank for excess protein, it must constantly break it down and use it. It can get converted into fat storage as well just like carbs but high-protein diet rarely leads to direct fat storage because converting protein to fat takes a lot of energy.It's about 50% difference according to the science nerds.Protein triggers fullness hormones, keeping you satisfied longer and naturally reducing your urge to overeat > less caloriesCalories is the ultimate factor, but you're still retarded.
>>540756928>no argumentsI accept your concession.
>>540751943Bullshit. Auschwitz was full of obese Yentels.
>>540751943Fasting is bullshit. Tracking calories and logging them is the only thing that works. Source: me. I've kept it going after being a hamplanet for 30 years. Protup: up your protein and fiber. Throw away all processed foods. Cook. Walk. Lift weights. Drink water. Sleep. Stay busy. Its easy as fuck.
>>540752194Fruits and vegetables aren't going to make you fat. Why do you think vegans are so skinny?
>>540752005I don’t understand the concept of hunger pains, I can go without eating until I start feeling dizzy and light headed, never feel hungry to the point it hurts.
>>540751943this
>>540754688My evil liberal parents didn't give a fuck about me and only fed me ultra processed goyslop now I need HGH therapy
>>540751943Burn more than you consume.>fastingNah. That shit is for niggers and trannies. White men eat what the fuck they want to because they're going to turn that into muscle.
>>540751943Yeah, it really is just the fucking calories. All this fad diet shit is so hard to maintain because it just is not fun to force yourself to maintain a new diet of eating food you don’t even fucking personally like. So you don’t and then give up.I used to weigh I don’t even know how much max, 220 or 230 maybe but after having the magical crazy diet of counting calories for real, I got down to 170 in only about two months. What was I eating? Almost entirely junk food. Just less of it. Never once did I have to go steaming broccolis to eat with glass noodles to down with a butter coffee or whatever. It is possible to finagle quite edible food with extraordinarily low calories and if you find something you legit like to eat that is very low cal for how filling it is there is nothing wrong with it. It’s possible / chipotle salad type bowls with no rice, cheese, guac etc and can be a legit good meal for a couple hundred cal. But you legit do not even have to do that. The secret is the stomach takes 15 mins or so to send the “full” message to the brain so if the meal feels incomplete and you want to chase it with more food, try to distract yourself hard for an hour. Play games, watch something. At least for me if I just wait long enough I legit get to that “I’m actually good for now after all” push past that urge to keep eating. That is the trick.
>>540760792Also forgot to say I did set pretty strict calorie limits, 1800 max normally and ideally pushing for 1400 or less. I did absolutely have cheat days when going out with friends and such or at least just one a week in general where I just did not count and ate as much as I wanted and that was fine enough in between more disciplined days.
>>540751943>You're fat because you eat too much.inb4 999 posts how their thyroids magically break the laws of thermodynamics
>>540751943Fat people are disgusting
>>540752194no, high blood sugar makes you lose weight, not gain it. type 1 diabetics know that to lose weight, all they have to do is use less insulin. and the more carbs you eat, the more insulin sensitive you become. the more fat and fasting you do, you become insulin resistant. this has been well known for over 100 years, in both animals and humans.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1394223/?page=1and most people don't understand the gylcemic index, it's not a food that makes you fat chart.https://youtu.be/PyxfTGq42VQthis video is the father of the glycemic index who explains itas proof of this concept, we can look at the extensive use of high carb diets in reversing type 2 diabetes, fatty liver, hypertension, and many other ailments said to be brought on by carbs. dr kempner had a rice diet he used for such patients, and had a 100% cure rate for type 2. the diet was white rice, fruit, fruit juice, and white sugar, and there was no limit on how much you were allowed to eat. sometimes white sugar made up almost 50% of the calories these patients would consume, simply because they couldn't eat much due to illness. so this flies in the face of all theorizing and hypothesising we get from the keto crowd. they always zero in on mechanisms instead of results. https://youtu.be/uxGKQYKV6Ucmcdougall has personally treated thousands of people and transformed the lives of millions through his diet advice. he was also a personal friend of kempner. he advises a diet of mostly starch, with some cooked vegetables and a small amount of fruit, and absolutely no added oil, and a drastic reduction or elimination of fatty foods like avocado and nuts. in order to get fatty liver, you need to have a much higher dietary intake of fat in order to sustain the fat mass. you can actually eat a ton of white sugar and fruit and reverse fatty liver in a matter of a few weeks if you omit all fats, save for what's in whole grains and starches.
>>540752387>>540763515
>>540751943I mean it really is that simple. There are diets that are more and less effective than others, but all of them involve portion control. Gee whiz.Although a doctor once told me that the best way to lose weight is to go on a diabetic diet for a year
>>540751943Actual "red pill" if we're adhering to awareness of truth: EAT FUCKING MEAT. YOU'RE EATING GARBAGE TO CHASE ACTUAL NUTRITION.Go buy 5 pounds of beef and eat only that for however long it takes to be gone.
>>540751943sugar is still bad though. it is literally poisoncarbs and seed oils are not great but sugar is by far the worst
>>540763924Sugar lies to you about your vitamin C cravings.Seed oils lie to you about your fat soluble nutrient cravings.Carbs lie to you about your protein cravings.One of these provides no actual calories and causes you to shit yourself. As such, you're a moron.
>>540755859fasting also makes you in want of glucose, which your body needs to operate. so, your body begins breaking down muscle to make glucose. it also makes you very insulin resistant. and all of the data shows that calorie restriction leads not only to rebound weight gain, but getting up to a higher weight than before. you are destroying your metabolism like this, and training your body to store fat because it keeps getting starved all the timethe native americans grew corn, beans and squash, and stored them for winter eating, along with roots like jerusalem artichokes. in fact this was the bulk of their caloric intake, animal food was comparatively rare, and hunts were only undertaken at certain times of the year. in fact most so called hunter gatherer remains found to this day show they ate mostly plants.https://projects.research-and-innovation.ec.europa.eu/en/projects/success-stories/all/greens-were-very-much-hunter-gatherer-menuso the paleo narrative doesn't hold up, it's just marketing for midwit zero sum assholes. marketing>Marketing research indicates that meat consumption in the USA is heavily skewed toward men, particularly those aged 50 to 65, who perceive beef as a symbol of masculinity and strength. A 2016 study found that men eat 57% more meat than women, and a 2023 Tulane University study revealed that just 12% of Americans account for half of all beef consumption, a group that is predominantly older and male. >Younger men (ages 16–24) are increasingly influenced by the "manosphere" on social media, which reinforces the stereotype that eating red meat is a core component of male identity. Recent reports show this demographic is twice as likely as older men to increase their meat intake to align with these masculine tropes, while marketing campaigns continue to leverage the association between steak and virility to drive sales.https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2025/04/30/manosphere-influencing-young-men-to-eat-more-meat/
>>540751943The joke is that everyone on the right in the real world are fatEvery seen an indian mans blood sample?
With hypothyroidism fasting works but you rebound weight twice as bad
Hey you!Why are you eating so much lol?
How to spot a shill: a shill will never mention that burning the fat put on by garbage vegetable oils takes energy because the body can't actually use that shit.You require animal fat. Saturated. You could be healthy on deep fried food if you would only tallow.
