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And they blame it on "woke" institutions, on the young just being lazy, they can't pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
But this couldn't be further from the truth.
Socialism historically begins to take power when the middle class is attacked, when it is subjugated and people are priced out of normal life. Imagine traveling back to the 1950s, you see jim bob working at his relatively easy factory job. He can buy a house, car and raise a family with 3 kids. If you told him, well jim bob, sure, you have all this stuff, but we're going to take it all away so you can own the means of production, doesn't that sound better than your comfy life?. He'd punch you in the face for being a pinko faggot.

Now look at nu-male, he has a meme college degree, gives up half his income in rent and groceries are going up every day. Do you really expect Mr. Nu-male to want to advocate for a more free market when he is already being fucked daily by that same market?
If capitalists, the rich, the land owning class and our leaders want to get rid of the "commie scum", then start making decisions that benefit the public, the ones who make everything tick, instead of constantly fucking us over and expecting us to just take it like an abused bitch slave. Even if it comes at the cost of some profit, of some shareholders, the priority of the system itself should always be its majority. There's a reason why every day socialist talking points start sounding more and more inciting. People are tired.
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Look at the demography of the average socialist/communist. It's fat women, trannies, young women who are only performative socialists, and skinnyfat ugly males.
You don't have to worry about anything.
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>>540766451
Here we go, you are the problem. Mindless label applications of groups you don't like. Meanwhile more and more DSA candidates are elected, zoomers are highly attracted to anti-israel politicians who are overwhelmingly left wing. Why are right wingers so adamant on making everyone hate them?
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>>540766288
The neo-conservative movement was created by Trotskyites. They exist to destroy the Russian people and act as a strawman to push people to communism.
You see neocons all the time telling 30 year old working men
>Stop whining, go get roommates, and eat Ramen!
those people are unironically communists
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>>540766288
The truth is, every generation follows the propaganda they were given when they were growing up.

Gen z is no different.
The country is still in a bad state, but yea the propaganda is working too
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>>540766554
Look bro, the modern economy, political views of people and a lot of other stuff can be approximated very accurately with big data and advanced algorithms. I work in this field so I am telling you that it's nothingburger.
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>>540766288
What cope is this, OP? You admit the 50s were about having a good life and yet you don't want the 50s capitalism? Raise your IQ a bit before creating a thread, I don't care if your boyfriend emotionally motivates you.
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>>540766719
>I work in this field
we know you do you fucking glownigger
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>>540766928
>50s capitalism
you mean the highly unionized, highly trust busted, high corporation taxes 50s capitalism?
learn your place, little hue chimp
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>>540766719
Are you the kike Epstein hired to make racial studies in Europe?
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>>540766554
Because they are retarded and greedy anon.
All it will take is one left wing candidate to be tough on borders and tough on Jews and it will be GG for the retardo right.
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>>540767417
Nah bro I just scour the internet and boards like this for data. You would be surprised how you can find a correlation between datasets you never expect. Really tells you how deterministic the universe is.
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>>540766288
>Socialism historically begins to take power when the middle class is attacked,
No, it's a top-down political idea that aims to create pools of money that are managed outside the public's view.
Pretty much all theories that try to find the origin of an ideology within the people is kinda retarded. The people only ever get to react. Even the most famous revolutions (like the French one) were initiated top-down.
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>>540766288
They get the right idea, and then walk down the wrong path.
Yes workers should have more capital.
No the capital shouldn't be centralised in the hands of 1 institution and then distributed by corrupt Jews.
Capital should be decentralised as much as possible, which you achieve by paying workers as much as possible.
Therein capitalism is good, make workers' stack of capital larger, very good.
The problem is that businessmen get greedy and are only in business for themselves, and hoard every bit of profit for themselves and their company.
It's counterproductive for their future revenue to pay workers the least you can get away with, because workers are your customers as well as producers.
But those capitalists, the corporatists, they don't care. They'd rather have a 30% share of a $10 billion market than a 4% share of a $100 billion market.
Plus, they get taught to do business this way. That their practices shrink the market over time doesn't occur to them. They blame it on other conditions.
Bowling collapsed for example. Only the normal sports alleys still do great business. The "luxury alleys" barely get any custom, the product is shit and the service is too expensive, but it does generate 35% of a market 10% the size it used to be when bowling was good.

So both the modern capitalists and the socialists/communists get it completely wrong.
It's about Centralisation versus Decentralisation, and the latter is the most profitable option in the long run for everyone.
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>>540766288
Socialism is ACTUALLY a male ideology. Believe me, the whole thing about how socialism is just trannies and shit was INTENTIONAL to make anything from Marx look stupid. Notice how the same ones who continually kvetch about the Holocaust also say that communist regimes killed 50 gorillion people somehow.


>As a sex, women have rarely been rebels or revolutionists. We do not see how they can ever be as long as there exists any system of exploitation to revolt against. Revolt comes from the submerged, never from the group occupying a favored place. Today the revolutionist is he who has nothing to sell but his labor power.

And about labor unions:

>The skilled trade union group is least revolutionary among the workers. The best paid unions are not the most militant in acts calculated to improve the conditions of even their own group, and are least aggressive in conduct for improving the[Pg 11] conditions of the whole working class. So long as they occupy a more favorable position in the industrial world, the trade unions will have something to conserve. They become conservative.
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>>540766288
>our youth is steering towards socialism/communism

Because Civics classes are no longer required in school.

The powers that be will raid California and New York now, and will enslave Cuba once and for all. Caracas fell in less than 12 hours.

Because some one has to have their milkshake drank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hFTR6qyEo

Because browns and niggers are still tribal and low IQ.
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>>540766288
they don't have a job that takes taxes out yet.
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>>540766554
>you don't like
yet you didn't say anon was wrong faggot
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>>540766288
>Many people ask why so much of our youth is steering towards socialism/communism
Literally nobody has ever asked that.

>And they blame it on "woke" institutions, on the young just being lazy, they can't pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
No, they don't. Fifteen year olds have always been communists. Then they turn sixteen and get a part-time job and it goes away.
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Why, you ask? Can you read that picture?... is it clear enough?
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>>540766554
Because they're a bunch of closeted faggots.

The left is no better and actually worse though. I would never vote for them because they attacked me for being a White male and want to disenfranchise me.

Gee, I wonder what political ideology is left for me?
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>>540768556
>Then they turn sixteen and get a part-time job and it goes away.

I'm 20 and got my current job at 18 and I've gotten even MORE left-wing to be honest. I work at a grocery store and have seen stuff go up 50% since the orange nigger took office. I'm getting paid what a cashier would have gotten 15 years ago.

I even have a college degree now, but am still there because I know for a fact that I am not going to be getting a job with it. I'm fucking off to another country eventually so at least I may be saved from this hell, but still.
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>>540768393
you sound smart
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>>540766288
You sound like a loser faggot that has envy because other people are successful. Also, you wouldent last im jimbobs factory job because you think it was cushy when in fact it was probably physically dibilitating.

Young midwits get lured into socialism/communism because they beleive that they are oppressed. In reality, they are using it as the easy way out by advocating extortion and violence on the behest of the government in order to enact thier hate and seething envy of people who had what it took to make it.

What will eventually happen is you will be dumped into mass Graves because we wont stand for it and you are a useless eater anyway.
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>>540768665
>and want to disenfranchise me.
Buddy, only the right is trying to do that
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>>540766288
Remember, Jesus was also hated originally. For he too, spoke the truth.
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>>540766288
Wait a minute, is that the Bon Jovi pepe....?
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>>540766288
I think a lot of this meta arguing stems from the fact that there is no immediate solution.
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>>540766288
But none of the problems of today's America has been caused by the free market.
It's all been caused by government intervention through central bank policy and monetary, fiscal policies (like not having a fucking balanced budget in fucking decades and funding any and all welfare policies through money printing).
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>I CANT READD
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>>540768665
>Gee, I wonder what political ideology is left for me?

To be fair, everyone throws around "leftist" like it automatically means trans/nigger DEI bullshit. REAL leftists actually hate identity politics because it's just a distraction for the plebs to fight amongst each other.

Believe me, the Trump Boomer niggers also hate you as a white male. They think your life isn't shitty enough and you need to be used as cannon fodder for kikes.
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>>540766288
>then start making decisions that benefit the public, the ones who make everything tick, instead of constantly fucking us over and expecting us to just take it like an abused bitch slave. Even if it comes at the cost of some profit, of some shareholders, the priority of the system itself should always be its majority

>hey capitalists!
>keep being capitalists but uhhh... like stop doing capitalist things okay?

Thats not how it works anon
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>>540766288
>the ones who make everything
They are getting wealthier every year, anon.
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because capitalism is a failed ideology

if your prerogative is to increase profits and suppress wages sooner or later people won't be able to buy what you sell.
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>>540768806
Pal, you've missed the point about the false dichotomy.
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they have correctly identified that the system as-is is purpose built to turbofuck normies in the most ridiculous, extractive, and humiliating way possible
as an example, not even 24 hours ago the news dropped that the ceo of anthropic, dario amodei, has a wife, cami clark, who sought funding for her free luxury porn studio from jeffrey epstein
this is a real sentence and not satire and neatly serves to illustrate the irredeemable rot at the top of society
communism/socialism is the hand grenade they want to throw into politics to burn it all down and frankly I can't blame them for the desire, though I disagree on the approach
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>>540768910
I agree. Speaking of the false dichotomy. I know real leftists don't like that either. It's liberalism left or right that seems to cause the most of an issue.

The problem is it's theory versus practice. In theory lefties are not supposed to be that way. But they are. That is the face of their party and unless they do some house cleaning it won't change. Just like Israel and diabetic Chick-fil-A eating rednecks as the face of the Republican party now.
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The young retards who want free gibs and socialism fail to realize that they themselves will be erased by muh revolution. You can't get more stupid than that.
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>>540768886
>funding any and all welfare policies through money printing

No, just the opposite. Back in the 90's, it was much easier to get welfare and shit until Clinton changed it.

The "Free Trade" of the 90's meant the American Joe Blow got his factory shutdown while those same exact consumer goods would go from having 25% profit margin for the assholes to 500% profit margins, keeping prices the same.

>You sound like a loser faggot that has envy because other people are successful.

They're successful not because they worked hard for it but because they occupied a certain position in society or were born at a certain place or time.

I'm not OP, but I suggest you read The Great Gatsby. Now despite it being a fictional story, people like HIM were deserving of their wealth. But even the real Gatsby's like Rockefeller and Carnegie just got lucky because they were born during a time of nascent technologies and fast industrialization.

It is VERY hard to become wealthy in this age because everyone has already done. Even the "breakthrough technologies" require MASSIVE amounts of capital.
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>>540768971
>sooner or later people won't be able to buy what you sell.
Welcome to the export model of countries like Germany. The producing people aren't supposed to buy the product to begin with, their wages make that impossible from the get-go. The entire trick of the system is to sell to a rich nation like the US, which also means the model inherently doesn't support an isolationist framing and doesn't collapse if your people get poorer.
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>>540766288
Well, you have explained it yourself. Everything is being ran for the benefit of the rich and well-connected. No thought is spared for the working poor. The situation is ripe for a socialist revolution. That’s why all the surveillance tech is going up. From the OS sign in bills to the AI cameras everywhere. This is their answer to us. They intend on driving everyone into grinding poverty.
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>>540768865
Yes. We all want more stuff, a higher quality of life, a better standard, but we think that comes with being less productive, in a real sense. We think we are going to be permitted to sit around in the lap of luxury while being lower middle class, when in reality we are not actually producing enough, not adding enough value, not amplifying our labour enough to actually get that quality of life. Instead we are cruising on our inheritance, not just in the form of raw wealth but in the form of every kind of infrastructure and all the systems out there with industrial, political, and logistical momentum.

Soon enough that momentum will run out, sapping it as we are, and then the lack of production will really impact us. China will be laughing because now they make everything and so of course their standard of living will improve as ours worsens.

How long until white people start moving to China and forming expat communities? We have already been shown what you’re supposed to do when you realize you’re living in a second or third world country: you gotta move to the rich country and capitalize on their social wealth.

Personally I hope China becomes the hegemon and takes over the canadian economy, it’ll be better than being under the thumb of irrational Yanks who don’t understand that the instability they’re purposely injecting into the market has consequences.
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>>540766554
Because they are greedy fools. There is no voting our way out of this. Once most people realize that, It’s ON.
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>>540768910
I have never seen a leftist not call to confiscate white property and enact vengeance penalties for white people

I have never seen a leftist ever speak out against Islam while they jerk off how much they loathe Christians

I have never seen a leftist critique an Islamic terrorist
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>>540768886
Blah blah blah. Yet another retarded free market libertarian asshole who doesn’t live in the real world. Free market is great until it fishes all the fish and the fishery collapses. Without a powerful sovereign who actually gives a shit about material conditions in the long term, the free market will just extract until it cannot anymore. Each party in the game is incentivized to just keep going for as long as possible because defecting just means giving up their spot at the trough to someone else. At the end of the day all the trees are logged (no incentive to replant), all the fish are gone, all the gold is mined and you’re left with a denuded landscape full of toxic tailing ponds and dead rivers.

A little bit of free market is good but without the hand of a wise ruling body it devolves into some pretty basic failure modes anyone with basic intelligence can predict
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>>540768758
>20
>works at a grocery store
>college degree
fake. never happened.
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>>540769105
>In theory lefties are not supposed to be that way. But they are.

It's been intentionally hijacked to make any kind of socialism look stupid. Promoting an annoying troon as a head of any kind of leftist policy and using nonsensical numbers and accounting and failing to say "See, socialism is just dumb troons, that's why 6 gorillion will starve under it and why we need to kiss the ass of the Musks and Bezos"


There's a REASON why they hate socialism. Jews actually HATE socialism, don't listen to /pol/ about some infograph saying something about a Jew liking Marx, that's just well poisoning. But think of how much Cuba is kvetched about.

Just think of Cuba, who compromised of exploitative Jewish plantation owners, then the plantation workers rose up and started slaughtering the kikes and the Cuban kikes had to flee to the US, where their ancestors endlessly kvetch about how they could have had muh slaves essentially.
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>>540769537
>White property

Give back our cultural relics you fuckers stole, the feet are still there
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>>540766288
Whenever the basic necessities of life like housing and food start to become unaffordable, normal people become radicalized. Trump promised affordability then did the opposite. Then he said affordability was a Democrat hoax. And people wonder why socialism is getting popular, when this is the best capitalism has to offer.
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>>540769582
I'm not a free market libertarian, I'm just pointing out the facts.

>A little bit of free market is good but without the hand of a wise ruling body it devolves into some pretty basic failure modes anyone with basic intelligence can predict
And with the hand of a retarded ruling body it turns into current state America (and the rest of the West for that matter).
Not that a Canuck would understand anything beyond giving up his country to Indians, though.
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>>540769537
Yes, we all know that the embodiment of modern leftism is anti-everything-we-are. This is not because all leftist thought leads inexorably in that direction; it’s because our politics, media, and academia are (((captured))) institutions that push those narratives. There’s no reason why it has to be that way forever; and there’s no reason to exclude all left wing political ideas from consideration just because the current crop of adherents is against us in every way. This is part of establishing a false dichotomy and making you hate your neighbours, which prevents any kind of organization from happening and renders the elite free from any real consequences.

Change will happen when we can find a way to talk to those on the left and redirect their anger towards those who are actually causing the problems. In this moment when the left is now against our ancient rivals, it is critical to build on that momentum, and push people to look at the influence those people hold here in the west.
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>>540769768
Fuck would I even listen to someone whose ancestors stayed behind when a new world was open for the taking? Literal descendant of weakness, you are
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>>540769537
Dude, I have been cast aside from being hired at WALMART because I am not a nigger. Unironically it was your buddy the Capitalists again, why niggers even exist here. They were too lazy and spoiled to keep with the indentured servant system, so they used niggers instead. The whole of the Confederacy was just Southern whites sucking rich Jewish cock.

>>540769584
I used my Pell Grant to go to WGU and I got a degree in 5 months. It isn't worth shit, but the degrees of other zoomers who go to in-person college aren't worth SHIT either.
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>>540766288
Communism is originally a worker's movement. Marx predicted all current problems in 1800s and Soviet Union was the solution. That is where this leads again when everyone gets more and more poor even if they can get a job
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>>540769899
>whose ancestors stayed behind
The more they had to lose, the less tempting the proposition was.
Doesn't take a lot of horsepower to figure that out. The well-off Europeans had no incentive to abandon everything they've build on the American frontier. Much easier to move if your live is shit already, as evident by the shitskin migration we have today.
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>>540769828
It's intentional because they want to discount any kind of leftist policies. Like that time a representative from "r/antiwork" went on Tucker Carlson. They picked the ugliest troon to discredit any kind of push back against the modern system.
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>>540769944
they hate white men and Christians so all the latinos thats like 98% of the blue collar workers
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>>540769944
Yeah, Joseph Goebbels said that he liked Hitler because he reminded him of Lenin.
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>>540769899
Why would I listen to someone whose ancestors were such losers they had fucking nothing and had to leave to a "new world" to have the semblance of anything.
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>>540769899
And let me also remind you that my ancestors raped the shit out of your french/English ancestors.
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>>540769402
There is too many indians in canada, I should filter that leaf flag
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>>540770487
The New World had to exist because Europe was undergoing ecological and economic collapse from the destruction of its forests and soil.
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>>540767327
Bodies that macaco
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>>540766928
You fucking brazillian nig... He's making the point that capitalism worked for the middle class back then. Literally (rightfully) says you used to be able to work a fucking factory job and provide for a family. Hell you could be a janitor back then and make a decent enough living to have a house, two kids, and a stay at home wife.
All of that is gone and capitalism is no longer working for the middle class because the rich and corporations own the government. He's also not saying that communism is better than capitalism, he's making the point that to young people, who start their adult lives in an economy that's not at all made to benefit them, where they can't save, buy a house, or have any disposable income, communism/socialism and the politicians that are pushing it and promise to restore a semblance of future for them are obviously going to be the more appealing choice.
You're desperately fucking retarded.
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>>540766288
It has absolutely nothing to do with the supposed "failures" of capitalism. It's because:
1. Academic institutions have become extreme far left marxist woke DEIA indoctrination centers. Like 2/3 of DSA marxists have a college degree. It is not a working class movement at all.
2. Gen Z is too young to remember when there were a bunch of actual communist countries, and the fact that every one of them was a dystopian disaster because communism does not actually work and isn't even a good idea in theory.
3. The Democratic Party is in complete collapse. They became too dependent on pandering to the leftist woke identity politics tranny mob, and all the sane normal moderate people abandoned the party. The DNC leadership knows that these DSA people are even less appealing than the wokesters, and have no chance outside of the bluest democrat strongholds, but they are too spineless and completely losing control of the party to rein them in. They are just hoping that the DSA candidates will keep saying enough insane shit to get primaried
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Communists have always recruited young stupid naive idealists i.e. useful idiots. They would also insert themselves into whatever activism was going on to make it look like they were doing it to claim credit for causes they had nothing to do with.
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>>540768758
>I'm 20
You are still a retarded kid who thinks he is a communist because you don't actually know shit about fuck. You are just a late bloomer version of that 15 year old with a Che poster.
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>>540767327
Nooo they're supposed to love feudalism
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>>540769582
>without the hand of a wise ruling body
Ah yes, because letting the central planning committees determine all of the prices and wages and production quotas for the entire economy worked so well in the Soviet Union and every other communist country and kept them from turning into polluted denuded wastelands.
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>>540766288
Bevause right wingers are fucking retarded. Imagine being so dogshit you directly cause a rise in leftism and communism. Even Israel is destroyi g its own nation because their right wingers are completely retarded.
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>>540766288
>tl:dr
How many more weeks before you seize the means of production?
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>>540767802
>Even the most famous revolutions (like the French one) were initiated top-down.
Opportunists try to ride the wave, but they can't always stay on it.

The Tsar in Russia wasn't overthrown by communists, but by the capitalist class. They wanted more power for themselves and, in general, to build an oligarchic republic like France and Britain. The irony is that their entire position in society rested on the Tsar's authority. The Tsar disappeared, and they weren't accepted as new authorities, but simply treated like dirt. As a result, within six months, they lost everything, fled, or were killed.
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>>540766288
Capitalists do make decisions to benefit you, but then you elect government that takes it all away.
Your rent is high because taxes are high.
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>>540767327
Fantastic how in the 50s, getting stiffed by the man meant getting fucked by a trust and shorted for your salary. In 2020s taking a yearly savings haircut, getting fired for a jeet, getting your whole nation replaced by jeets and not affording food is a mainstream political platform that "has no alternative". Demonrats can't even work this reality into a political platform because they support it even more.
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>>540766288
Socialism and control of these transnational corporations is an absolute necessity moving forward. Nations cannot allow corporations to just subvert every nation to their whims.
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>>540766554
DSA is low brow, but so is US politics, so throwing candy at people in a parade is all you really need to do
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>>540766554
>Why are right wingers so adamant on making everyone hate them?
that's their role
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>>540768806
Actual fucking retard here
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>>540775936
Two sides endlessly misinterpreting and antagonizing each other over nonsense perpetually, sounds fun
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>>540766288
>why
because mice do not understand why the cheese is free until the trap crushes their spine
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>>540766288
The children who hyped up gommunism 30 years ago then started teaching the next generation of children to hype up gommunism.
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>>540774503
>Capitalists do make decisions to benefit you
lol k. before government regulations, capitalists employed children (and slaves before that!) and worked men 12 hours a day for pennies. shut the fuck up.
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>>540776114
How much were the coppers worth?
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>>540766288
Capitalist west:
>declining and will continue to decline
Socialist China:
>rapidly advancing and will continue to advance
It doesn't really matter whether it's still technically better in America than it is in China. It's about the trajectory. People in the capitalist west have no future to look forward to. Only more decades of decline with no end in sight. Socialist China can look forward to getting even wealthier and more developed.
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>>540774669
You are confused. Republicans are the party of business owners, friend. Immigrants thrive in red states, without social welfare, because they are cheap labor.
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>>540776245
>Chang shooting concrete into ravines to inflate gdp is progress
Okay
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>>540776206
whatever the capitalists deemed they were worth. not exactly a great system. but hey, if you want to go back in the mines for $2/day while some fat CEO pockets most of the value of your labor, be my guest!
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>>540776341
Those dang capitalists and their *checks notes* money
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Discord trannies and gayper defectives are going to push DSA/socialism hard at decent but disaffected anons at /pol/ getting screwed by the system (and at their fellow defectives)
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>>540776585
DSA has no power here. But the disaffected minorities in cities might have something else to say
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>>540776310
China has about a dozen different mega cities today that didn't even exist 40 years ago. The country has completely transformed itself from a poor farming country to being the undisputed global leaders of production and trade with the world's largest middle class.
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>>540766288
The US Constitution protects private property. Even if you have corporate interests (read: jews) onboard, you do not have the right to seize private property. You would have to abolish the Constitution, in which case we would abolish your head from your neck. Got it? Good.
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>>540776902
I'm sure China is a beacon of merit then if they're so successful
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>>540776977
They're actually working to elevate their people right now, instead of suppressing them and keeping them poor while trying to replace them with foreigners. The west is stagnating because its elites are not of the same people as the rest of the population, and they're actively working against their own peoples interests because they are stupid, greedy and jewish.
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>>540766288
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>>540777074
Yes I'm sure battling the Chinese is a foolish endeavor, oh wait
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>>540773969
I blame the reformation. It is directly reaponsible for prosperity gospel, the Protestant work ethic, and trickle down economics
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>>540776403
Sixteen tons, and what do you get?
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>>540766288
>But this couldn't be further from the truth.

it's called the Long March Through the Institutions.

Retard. Notice Marxist educators never ever talk about Jewish power/privilege. It's just a bunch of gullible women following the Wall St/International Bankers into communist dictatorship. All for the good of the Jews.
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>>540777220
I sold my soul to the company store
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>>540766288
Yeah man I'm tired too. I've stopped interacting with normalfags entirely. Clown World shifted into Hell World faster than I thought it would & now literally everyone's insane. Plus the flock shit. I think voters and the Employim™ are probably maybe finally at their wits end and they'll finally fucking DO something? Or will they just wheelbarrow cash like in the Weimar republic? Fuck man idk all I know is I'm glad I have a bug-out bag & places to go if SHTF
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>>540766288
Look no further than bongistan to see socialism in action, where your earnings alone are taxed up to 60%, while public services are in a death spiral. All in the name of equality and open borders
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>>540766451
Those are the faggots that get the same one vote per person as you do. You have to convince them to join your side, or they will continue to work against you.
Hey, at least we got all those people to start hating jews, the hard part is already done!
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>>540776585
You both know, as I do, that you had never typed the acronym “DSA” until about 6 weeks ago.
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>>540777582
The pieces of shit have so little respect for their opponents that they think they can game hearts and minds overnight with algorithmic predation and social scientific techniques of manipulation. I'm sick of their smiling faces.
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>>540777726
I’ve only seen it represented as a boogeyman. Cui bono?
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>>540766288
People simply dont care about capitalism if they cannot accumulate capital themselves. For most people capitalism or communism is the same to them, they are just workers.
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>>540777826
Big Tech benefits. Equalitarian ideology doesn't promote socialism, it masks the advent of stablecoins and social credit. Flock is Palantier. Datacenters are building Digital Twins. No one's getting a Shemitah and they sure as fuck aren't being retired from relentless toil. Smart Cities agenda 2030. That's what this is. The brown power bullshit is theater, although I'm sure many of them believe it.

Even the war in Iran is about nuclear, bitcoin, and SWIFT.
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>>540766288
>Many people ask why so much of our youth is steering towards socialism/communism
It's a combination of these three things:

1. Voting not working. You elect people to office and they do the exact opposite of what you elected them to do. This leads to the perception elections are theater, delegitimizing democracy as a whole. And the leadership caste, the Epstein class, has done everything humanly possible to prove this sentiment to be true, making everyone saying "democracy is dead" look like a prophet.

2. Jewish programming becoming self-sustaining. Originally, left wing communist thought was being propagated in high schools, college campuses, and on social media for the purposes of destroying goyim nations and radicalizing brown people into killing the jews' most hated enemy: White people. The brainwashing was successful. So successful in fact, neo-communists now identify jews as being White, and you have White neo-communists saying Whites should be exterminated. The jews have successfully created a generation of self-hating self-suiciding radicals.

3. Because capitalism died in the 1980s, was replaced by globalism, and then globalism has also died, and is now replaced by international oligarchism, with explicitly Zionist overtones (since most of these people are jews). Combine economic depravity with scarcity and mass-immigration, and you now have three generations of people who cannot get jobs, cannot accrue wealth, cannot participate in the economy, and cannot pair bond or have kids. This leads people to, rightfully, want to overthrow the entire system, since the status quo is evil and unsustainable. At best, we will have an economic collapse within five years. At worst, we will have civil wars from California to Poland.

This is actually the perfect window of time for Nationalists to prove themselves an alternative to communism, but they're doing a bad job of it because they refuse to call a Nationalist conference and solidify their positions.
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>>540766288
I hate leftism, but I hate Jews more, so I'm going to keep voting for the most anti-Israel candidate. If right-wingers are too addicted to Jew Jew cum to change their stance on that issue, they are not going to get my vote. Simple as.
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It's because socialism is what society needs as a basis for the requisition of services and resources to the underclass.

Capitalists are retarded, they will claim their system of progress which is suppositional on third-party middle men like insurance companies and ineffective governmental bureaucracy and nepotistic biddings on contracts. What we need is a direct democracy as the fact our representative system provides 200k salaries to a useless eater class of people called "Politicians", glorified welfare recipients.

We have the money for the homeless, we have the money for the feeding of every American annually for the cost of our defense spending. The reason people systemically suffer in america is not due to limited resources, but due to neglect for the welfare of a fellow american. You criminalized public bathing, vagrancy, and people needing sustenance through population urban areas. In turn you take increased spending on incarcerations, and drug abuse programs. Meanwhile we allow big pharma to get the majority of Americans hooked on their benzos an opiates.

It's gonna end, people will have UBI. Where the private sector fails a direct socialistic demonocracy to mainline the cure to this pathological society will happen. We only need technology to kill the next big thing. Satellite internet and cloud computing with A.I. will make every clerical job obsolete.

Soon to see the pax americana
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>>540778559
>If right-wingers are too addicted to Jew Jew cum to change their stance on that issue, they are not going to get my vote. Simple as.
America is controlled by a christian doomsday cult that are complete sniveling supplicants to jews. So pretty much until christianity collapses in America, this state of affairs will continue. Because they're not going to reform. Let's just be honest. Evangelicals intentionally brainwash their children at the behest of their jewish masters. And then those kids join the military and infiltrate the government. You see this with Dan Crenshaw, Mike Huckabee, Tom Cotton, etc.
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>>540778633
The current economic system in place is not capitalism. It is international jewish oligarchism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZy1lBNykA

We haven't had capitalism since the late 90s.
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>>540778633
>our defense spending
Yeah, let's use that on social services and let the federal reserve note die :^)

You have to be 18 to post here.
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>>540778675
>It's not jews, it's the Evangelicals
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strange how as america started adopting more socialist policies and the government grew larger, the standard of living declines.
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>>540778750
yeah, but the extension of taxation as a means of tithing or paying tribute to a society which profits by permitting a one to engage in legal labor is fair. Megacorporations should pay large sums of money to engage in their exploitation of water, land, and air. And in turn, allow for americans to live in a developed quality of life, facilitating the automation of goods/services for a post-surplus economy. They have methane fuel cells and Laser-sintering fabrication, Essentially a closed loop system where society sets and maintains like using sanitation gases to power and fuel transportation, space travel, and manufacturing. We could even end animal factory husbandry, and animal testing with advance computing.
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>>540778675
This.
Hegseth and Wilson also need to go.
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>>540766554
Yep long time conservative here and the rich are conserving it all for themselves
. And fuck Israel. Im leaning towards a sea change
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>>540766288
WHY IT COULD BE?^^
maybe cause every effort of living in decency and freedom in this jewish capitalism failed.. maybe everyone with a brain knows that a form of state which only benefits the most greedy and egomanic scum can not bring us peace? maybe we all just hate to see all this jewish cancer get their pockets filled by poisoning and selling out all of us? and maybe not everyone hates every other country like jews do??
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>>540766288
china doesn't look like gulag shithole like russia. you can't scare people with communism if they see communist china and it doesn't look that bad.
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>>540766288
This isn't incorrect
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>>540766928
50s capitalism isn't sustainable lmao that's the point. It's a snapshot of a nosedive before the freefall
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>>540766451
No. It was that when things were good. Now it's basically everyone under 40. Which is precisely OP's point.
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>>540766288
The problem is the same group of people impoverishing america also lead the DSA. Jews, pajeets, goowniggers, gays, academics and women
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>>540767887
>It's counterproductive for their future revenue
That will be someone else's problem later. Short sighted selfishness is an unavoidable problem of capitalism. Despite being called "third position" a mostly private economy where the state is empowered to step in and correct counterproductive behavior was the first, default form of economic management. And it worked for thousands of years. We have to go back.
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Envy is a dervative of greed, socialism empowers capitalism. Look at France, all those benefits and they still get fucked over by rich champaign socialists
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>>540773934
Having some direction doesn't mean you have to control everything, all the government has to do is protect domestic industry, prevent rent-seeking behavior, prevent negative externalities, control the supply of money so that the value of money is stable and doesn't rise or fall, and where the free market fails to provide goods and services at reasonable quality and cost because of natural monopolization (public infrastructure, utilities, etc), nationalize it. Complete central planning and complete free market are both retarded and end up being quite similar in effect.
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>>540766288
I just want an ethnostate bro
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>>540766288
Socialism is an anti-middle class movement.
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>>540768910
So, when are leftists going to argue for mass deportations, strong borders, and openly advocate saying nigger in public. You know, anti-DEI things.



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