Do these people want us to lose to China?
What do we get if we win?
>>540768593profits are privatized and losses are socialized
>>540768593>MUH CHINAall fields nigger
>>540768676The US controls the most powerful technology instead of China. Imagine a world where only China has nukes.
>>540768786Nukes fake and gay.You ever seen a nuke?Exactly.
>>540768786Just because USA has nukes doesn't mean every other country doesn't same applies to AI
Marx' divide and conquer cookbook, they are going back to class struggle narrative.Simplified for the average nigger: RICH MAN BAD
>>540768593>chinaEverybody knows the terminator will be jewish, and yes, people will do anything they can to make this possible.
>>540768786>the us controlswill be sold to china by israel
>>540768593My water and electricity is more important than a datacenter that houses flock surveillance. Again my water and electricity usage is more important than introducing 1984.
>>540768593it’s antisemitic. that’s all you need to know.
I've read we create 400tb of new data a day in America. Where you gonna put all that without datacenters?
My hope is that the cancellation of these data centers will help towards killing the demand for RAM eventually since they won't be able to build the places for it to go.
>>540768593>Let me enslave most the population or you want to lose to ChinaFuck off, retard. The added value of data centers are purely finance industry driven, as in they aren't not meant to make life better, the net positive isn't there, it's just so that investors can get better payouts and those payouts go to local politicians. Data centers are used to help AI replace workers and are a huge resource sink. Energy prices go up and local water becomes more scarce, also driving up prices. There is a way to sell data centers, but to make them more of a benefit to most requires heavy regulation and taxes that make them much less profitable.
I manage a small "datacenter" (6 racks) for workNow when I explain what I do the normies think I'm the devil reincarnate instead of some computer dorkIt's getting annoying
>>540768676Post scarcity techno-futurism.
>>540769423Interesting problem. What's another word for "small data center for work"? What is your work?
>>540769523Maintaining five 9's of uptimeCompute, storage, networking and everything in betweenThe random stuff like being on-top of the diesel generator and UPS maintenance (which is just email coordination)
>>540768676less jobs for less pay for more hours of work
>>540768593 We've already lost to China dipshit. We can't even beat Iran.It's over. Now fuck off before we enact revenge for your treason.
>>540768593How many data centers has China built and why are they able to achieve ai that is 95% as good as ours with cheaper parts for what is essentially free
>>540768786>The US controlsSo do I get a cut of the profits from that? Do i get a certificate that says i own stock in that company?Or is this another case of >benefits richfags while the goy pay for itBecause im willing to bet its going to be Jews who actually control those data centers.
>>540768593its called crashing the train with no survivors. honk honk
>>540769423Just say it's not for aiWhy do you talk to normies anyways, need their attention and validation?
>>540768593I’m more patriotic for China then this evil shithole fuck your data centers migger
>>540769750dilate tranny
>>540768593Basically you have media jews/hollywood jews/fags/ artists who think that cheap compute will correspond to the destruction of their cultural propaganda power over the US, since AI will be able to produce better quality product more cheaply. So they are rebelling against this technology by mobilizing their retard nigger pet hordes
>>540768593Lose what? The race to blow the most resources on the least useful technology to ever be made?
>>540769824because I don't live on 4chin 24/7 like youdon't be rude
>>540769658Wouldn't you just say you're maintaining servers at that point, especially when explaining it to people outside your industry?
>>540769261> Data centers are used to help AI replace workersThis is a good thing, you fat mouth-breathing troglodyte faggot. Work for the sake of work is slavery in the service of no purpose. You need to be beaten until every bone in your body is broken and you’re left a blubbering piece of shit mess. Which you already are. But your bones should be broken, too.
>>540768593>explain it to me>they increase your power bill>they're noisy>they're going to be used to institute a social credit and surveillance system that no one wants or needsYou don't want to be convinced because you're a subhuman jeet.Build them in india and suck up their water and power.
No human wants to submit to the Nigger Gangster Computer God
>>540768786But how does that affect me?>t. Chinese exchange student
>>540769951I just say I work in IT now and leave it at that
>>540770008Absolutely zero new data centers are required for mass surveillance or a social credit system. This could all be achieved with modern technology and actually requires surprisingly little data. These are storage facilities. You are a retard. You need to stop getting your news from other retards on the internet. There is a non-zero chance you believe Earth is flat.
>>540768593Yes. It's the modern day version of anti nuclear protesters. Useful idiots for Anti US adversaries.Retards seem to think data centers are a new phenomenon rather than things that have been around for decades too. >>540769071>>540769129>>540769086>>540769930>you won't benefit from a data center.You use the internet don't you? Every site you use requires physical storage in a data center somewhere. That has been the case for years and years already and you didn't care until you were manipulated into thinking it was a big deal.>>540769209Exactly.
>>540770006>I think daddy goberment is going to pay me to live my neet lifestyle when they have me under constant flock cammera survallience.I wonder if you can ever think a step ahead. You probably trip down stairs all the fucking time.
>>540768593Ask yourselfHave the data centers made the internet any better?We all use it is pretty much free why we need to ruin a good thing so they can pretend to own the works of someone else?
>>540770137Nooooo you’re a kike jew or something!! Shill. The data centers are for trafficking pizza children!
>>540769880>Better qualityA computer can’t paint a canvas. The only creatives that worry about this are actors and musicians
>>540770188They aren’t gonna need you to flip burgers at Wendy’s either, drug addict.
>>540768593We already lost to China. The skull chart is in the exponential takeoff phase. Right now, we're negotiating how far behind we will be. Based on how Trump is doing, it is going to be very far behind.
>>540770211a 3D printer can spit out a replacement stove knob in about an hourStaples can print my business new signage on high gloss cardstockWhy would we need a computer to physically paint a canvas?
>>540770302Neither do AI data centers. You’re just throwing a temper tantrum.
You can't live in a data center.
>>540769217It's gonna lead to massive market dumps.90% of the hardware bought by the tech bros is sitting in warehouses because the planned datacentres aren't getting built.They have nowhere to deploy all that ram.
>>540769788They're using our models. Just a few months ago their models were still referring to themselves as ChatGPT and shit because they're stolen and rebranded poorly lol>nigger steals bikeDis is mine now, mayne
>>540770099Storage for mass surveillance so that evidence can be preserved when ex-post facto laws are enacted, retroactively criminalizing normal behavior
Normies are fighting them because they are a noise/heat nuisance and an environmental threat. However, most are not aware of the real purpose these are being fasttracked nationwide and largely skipping the usual illusion of democratic process to be built without input or consent of the governed. The data centers are NOT for gen AI or LLMs. They are for processing and storing the sheer volume of data that is coming from the new nationwide surveillance network that is also being rolled out alongside these data centers. All those Flock/Axon/etc. camera networks being built out need someplace to store and process their data so it can be accessed as needed. That is where these data centers come in.>>540769217Nah, the RAM/computer component shortage is going to keep going because it's the most expeditious means of depriving (You) and everyone else of current and future local compute capability. They want you on streaming boxes that remote access a VM instead so you have zero freedom and they have total control of your activity.
>>540768676Omnipresent AI surveillance to make sure goyim are on their best behavior at all times.
>>540769423Just tell them you manage your employer's servers for him.
>>540768786This is some "Iraq has WMD's"-tier hilarious bullshit. China "controlling" AI when it can't even make shit without stealing from first-world countries is laughable. We haven't even proven that AI will benefit the world in any meaningful way, and they're still just ramming it down our throats. It's nothing but the latest scam.
>2 posts by this ID/tranny
>>540768786>Imagine a world where only China has nukes.The best world
>>540770415Thanks toothpaste anon
>>540770435>it can't even make shit without stealing from first-world countries is laughableYou're living in 2005. China is on the cutting edge of most hard science and catching up on the rest. They surpassed the US in research output about 5 years ago.
>>540770399I believe this. I also believe the moon is a hologram and dinosaurs were created by Satan to deceive us.
>>540768593They promise bringing in a thousand jobs, but that is only for the construction. Once stood up they only take about 20 people to keep running.
>>540770302If they have turbines on site then they arent pulling a GW of power from the grid and if you retards also werent terrified of nuclear power then they could have closed loop cooling systems so they use virtually no water at allYou shoot yourself in the foot and then complain about how much it hurts like a retard
>>540770577They should make them less efficient as to employ more useless people!
>>540770086This is for my better understanding; would it be incorrect to say that you maintain servers?
>>540770530>research outputOh wow, theyre using AI to write papers even more than US "academics"? I'm so impressed
>>540768593>Do these people want us to lose to China?datacenters will be build mostly from made in China things >big thinking,american thinking,best thinking moment
>>540768786But one getting super duper AI doesn't stop the other from getting it though, I don't understand how you "win" this game?
>>540770006There needs to be a system in place to help people first especially now that this isn't just replacing hard physical labor, it's replacing specialized labor people spend decades perfecting and it's being trained off their labor without compensation. Just like there needs to be resource infrastructure to support a data center before it's built. What we're seeing is the cart put before the horse for the benefit of investors and the rest gets figured out sometime down the line maybe.
>>540770623Are you an AI model? (half kidding)That's like 20% of the job. Maintaining the physical servers + the virtual OS, back end storage/SAN, network infrastructure (firewalls, load balancers, switches, routers, access points)That's just the datacenter side of my responsibilities
Jews are panicking. The scamdemic made them think the public was full of obedient sheep that would roll over and accept anything, but so far it's gone horribly wrong. The Iran war, AI, datacenters, flock cameras, the public is vehemently against all of these things and jews don't know what to do about it. Just look at the shills ITT.
>>540770714Then you should ask for them to have reactors built onsite so they're entirely independent and they can used closed loop cooling loops and not use any water as wellOh wait youre not going to do that because your complaints on resource usage are a smokescreen for the fact you're actually just scared of these centers
>>540768676An explosion of homelessness.
>>540770764I am a full nuclear accelerationist and want to defund all social sciences to redirect them to materials sciences for superconductors specifically to bring about fusion energy
>>540770788Help people not with UBI or cheap mass-produced goods, but by giving people bullshit jobs that enable toil with the illusion of accomplishment. Nice philosophy you have there.
>>540770775AI allows super-efficient economic production, as well as enabling superior military strategies that no human or group of humans could execute, especially relevant with drone warfare
>>540769070>will be sold to china by israelwill be...are you a...railway tunnel optimist?
>>540770793No, just curious. Maybe the AI language models were trained off me. I mean they're trained off all of us.Then just call it servers or a room of servers. A server room. No need to call it a data center.
>>540770618I'm just saying that's the manipulation tactic they use to get local governments to consent to giving up acres of land for just 20 jobs helping generate memes for Indians.
>>540768593 Anon, this is literally just the current flavor of our month of hate from the liberal activist class. These people had absolutely no problem with technology when they were in office, this is just the same people who are calling Donald Trump a nazi and a Russian spy and so on and so forth moving on to a new topic.Realistically I kind of got the impression that this is the "Lincoln project 2.0" Where I'm suddenly seeing a bunch of left-wing social media accounts larping as conservative or outdoorsy or nature oriented spastically making insults with the same tone that they were last month about "GoP Pediphiles" or "Latina anne frank in a attic in America hiding from ICE" but now its "AI is killing a puppy in a fata center every time you make a search" bullshit. It's literally just them screaming at the pendulum as it swings away from them on a technological level. We've been using smartphones in Google In our pocket for 20 years now, they're just trying to suddenly pretend as if this is the first time they've ever heard about this or consider the fact their data is out there. Its performative and it's not subtle. Literally nobody has ever used the term data center before just a couple of months ago and now I have Facebook group posts in my local town like every single day bitching and complaining about how some local politician is trying to sell our souls to put a data center into an empty parking lot. It's like I get the sentiment, obviously, but when it's this performative and this loud and this all of a sudden out of nowhere it's more than obvious.
>>540770211Very true, but look at the rest of the market and how it's developing.Hollywood has nothing to worry about regarding AI.Hollywood as an industry is already on life support. The studios in LA are empty, nobody's working there anymore.The industry there is dead in the water. Productions are all taking place in other parts of the US, in Canada and other parts of the world.Not a single movie produced by Universal and Warner Bros has done well with the audience, even if the box office was decent, for the last 15 years.They've gone through more directors and production people than there are newcomers to fuck with, nobody wants to work for these studios anymore.That's besides all the redpills on the Hollyjew rituals.That's just Hollywood.Music has other problems.More and more people are learning about pitch correction, another way to deceive the audience.People buy tickets to watch singers mime and not sing for real.They hate it, they're not going to as many of those shows.That means that the only way for the music industry to make money, live concerts, is dying. At least for the established acts.And new acts aren't being established because the music Jew is even more paranoid and obsessed with control than the Hollywood Jew.Sony didn't just fuck Michael Jackson and black artists, they're fucking everybody, even their own jews under contract.For more, see the 1997 Telecommunications Act and some interviews with producers and musicians who are redpilled on the business side of music.Rick Beato did a video on that 1997 act herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reesdiAbvk4
>>540770911UBI isn't on the horizon though, it's a lofty thought. We'll get commercially available flying cars before UBI. Bringing it up here and getting mad about it doesn't make sense.
>>540768593>lose to Chinagit gud (efficient code) instead of just paywinning
I think a lot of this bullshit is performative also because it comes from the same activist liberal arts class of shitty human beings that were put under the impression that we would always have to ask them and beg them and pay them for their political opinion/shitty art...and now we dont. The communists are literally mad because they can't hoard the means of artistic production, it's hilarious. The generative AI n't making colors of space or creating nuclear fission, it's taking the collective digital output of human artistic capacity and rearranging it into something that we ask for at the moment to, it's not creating anything new and the fact that it makes these people fucking spaz out is even better.
>>540768593> /pol/tards still don’t understand the jewAI is a financial scheme to transfer more wealth to jews, the technology is not relevant, it’s about finance.Amazon, Google, and co sign contracts to rent gpu capacity from new datacenters, those things cost 10s of billions, they create an LLC for each new datacenter, and get goys to invest and banks to loan based on the contracts for capacity they sold before construction even begins.Most of the money just goes to nvidia in advance in chip orders.Next they stage those retarded protests to cancel the datacenter and cashout, banks and investment firms that put the money up are in on it, and now can walk scott free.They know it’s going to fail, the protests are just to blame it in something other than the scam of a technology they call AI.
>>540771137Even if what i say doesn’t make sense, I guarantee you it’s 100000000% the same jews building the datacenters that want them cancelled by libtards.
>>540768786It's so powerful that nobody wants it.If you want it just build it under area 51 where no one can say a thing about it nigger.>>540770402>surveillance network>or gen AI or LLMsSuch a wrong post. First LLMs are "AI" or rather "AI" doesn't exist and it should never be called as such. Second, LLMs are used in spying, they can make resume (with some hallucinations) about the massive amount of data spied each day, you can then get a result by typing "What did people talk about today?" and it gives you a synthesis of all spied phone conversations.
I can support data centers if and only if their cheap repetitive technical capability eliminates the "need" for the H1B/OPT program. Open AI claims they're solving mathematical theorems, conjectures and whatever else have you, so why do we need the backwater 9999iq third worlders?
>>540770545Dinosaurs aren’t fake. Theyre just unimportant. Only tards, children, and nerds care about dinosaurs
>>540770911First stop doing violence toward the arts with usury and violence toward nature with homosexuality.
>>540770530HAHAHAHA you're a fucking idiot living in propaganda land. China lies about literally every single accomplishment and does nothing but produce cheap knock-offs of products invented by first world countries. They couldn't even make ballpoint pens until a few years ago. Kill yourself, chink retard.
>>540768593People are retarded and can't actually make arguments in good faith anymore. They bitch about water and surveillance pretending that the storage centers have to be "here" to do it. The data centers will be buit, but now you'll be shipping that water to browns so that Ghupta and whatever counts as a Cambodian sterotype don't die. Of course, the added bonus is once they're located in the east, hostile nations will have more control and access to said data while faggots here pat themselves on the back because their life of endless work and gooning has a new fluff piece article written about how plucky netizens beat the evil tech-bro's dystopian data centers and saved the environment (that will still die since we just shifted ecological damages to another hemisphere again). Its Helter Skelter all over again except we got richfags who can actually make things happen instead of desert junkies and hippies this time.
>>540768593lose to china in what? in money spent on pointless shit
>>540770926Drone warfare is producing more drones than the enemy, idiot. Naval warfare is having more battleships. LLM produce nothing, it only takes.
>>540768593we already lost to china by giving them all of our manufacturing.why don't we build a bunch of factories then?see your logic makes no sense.it's not about beating china, it's about making the goy suffer always.
>>540770137Shut up kike faggot, take off the memeflag
>>540770207Pizzagate miggers support the data centers, kike.
>>540771590You say that now...just wait.
>>540768786US based billionaires don't work for the people of the USUS based financiers don't work for the people of the USUS based military and intelligence services don't work for the people of the USUS based politicians don't work for the people of the USWe are beginning to talk about nation states like corporations. One can say "This policy is good for Exxon" but that doesn't mean the employees. It means the amorphous legal entity referred to as Exxon. One would be foolish to claim that pro-Exxon policies benefit the janitors and truck drivers.
>>540768593Yes.
>>540771772Yeah, in 2005. Trade War 1, including arresting the Huawei girl, in Trump's first term put them on notice and they leveled up. It's not really surprising that a country with a billion people who are about as smart as Americans educated to higher standards can be good at R&D.
>>540768786>>540768593Are you retarded?!They're going to win anyway because boomers gave them all our manufacturing jobs, then we became woke trans nigger retards and they became national socialists.
>>540768593/g/entooman here, i want my hw components to be affordable again and i refuse the mainframe paradigm because it's an intentional regression from the democratization of computing achieved through PCs. LLM are fine but only to be used locally, fuck cloudshit.
>>540768593there's no anti data center movement
>>540768786what's the point if my life is still worse? choking on pollution. drinking dirty water. listening to the droning of the data centers. what life?
>>540768593Nobody wants noise pollution next to their home and higher electricity prices
I'm White, Male, and Christian.By definition, I cannot "lose to China."
>>540768593Yes
>>540768786For AI to be useful it has to be in the open. You can't lock it in a bunker and get the benefit that everyone knows you can purge the from the face of world like a nuke. Even if China somehow wins the AI race it will be "imagine of only China had 1 gt nuke" omitting the fact that every country with working electricity and plumbing will have 100 mt nuke and everyone who make at lest 30k$ and can afford some semi modern pc will have 1mt nuke at home. Suddenly China wining the AI race is kind of meh.
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>>540768593It's simple. Kikes are building data centers to spy on the goyim just like China has been doing.
>>540771919Not an argument. If you hate datacenters then you need to stop using the internet because you're the reason they exist. Your posts ITT, this website and your entire internet history is all stored in physical memory in datacenters somewhere, retard.
>>540770207The funny thing is this 'datacenters are jewish' thing is the low effort way to turn rightoids against them. China already had leftoids against them because leftoids are all shitty digital artists who are sad that ai can make art better than any of them, so they believe they're no longer going to be able to be millionaire world famous artists because of it.Until very recently /pol/ used to make fun of them for this but then the 'datacenter' psyop began and overnight all of them are whining about it too. The moral of the story is most people really are a bit dim and get easily manipulated.
>>540768676Cancer, poverty, and oligarchy
>>540768849brown person cope
>>540768593Yes.You answered your own question, desu.
>>540768593Um, if I have to choose between Chinese AI and Jew AI, I will take the Jew AI thank you very much. You cannot trust the Chinese!
>>540778222Hurr durrIf you hate Jeet driven Semi Trucks and LOUD Race Cars SPEEDING on the highway, killing innocent people, THEN YOU NEED TO STOP USING ROADS!!!Do morons like you even listen to yourselves anymore?
>>540768676very expensive ram and a useless toy that can't do basic things properly
>>540768593we have always had data centers and data centers create jobs. it's just the new leftwing talking point
The purpose of the data centers is to help law enforcement build a case on every man, woman, and child in America so the instant they decide to move against anybody, they can decide what they want your sentence to be and their computer system will file all appropriate charges and they can print out a signed warrant instantly.
>>540768593people want jews to suffer and lose their power, and just take the fact how much these rats investet in the ai bubble... would be a shame if it would crash^^
>>540768786Neato, and the people need to pay a subscription to use it. How fun. Meanwhile based china just drops its models for free.
>>540768593Isn't China collapsing? Why do we need to win? Just leave them be, they'll die on their own, right?...right?
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