Nothing personnel, MIC!
>>540772120if they demolish america, why cant they demolish russia
>>540773364>if they demolish americathats not what the article sayscan you even read?
>>540773364Russian tanks are an endangered species, memeflaggot. not surprising it does the same to nato. small scale attritable drone warfare has changed the game.
>>540773364Because unlike America, Russia can just go ahead and fight an attritional, positional war, which is what it was always good at doing anyways. If the US can’t make blitzkrieg formations work it has no viable backup.
>>540772120oh wow, Nato is learning how to fight an actually equal opponent and not just to conduct safari style operations against defensless people? Of course you would get destroyed, then you adapt and destroy hohols, then they invent a new trick and destroy you again, you find a counter to that and get back. With drones and their modifications there is plenty of flexibility. In such a war the winner has more resources to continue the carousel.
>>540773719The problem is that the US can’t adapt. Not because it is incapable of adapting, but because it’s reliant on formations that can’t be saved with any amount of adaptation, and without being able to save this formation it can’t actually project ground power.
our defense industry was hijacked to defend israel and shareholders while our borders are left wide open, they dont care about losing war games
I've been saying for about three years now that the US isn't taking small drone warfare seriously. $500 or less drone can take out multi-million dollar equipment. You will not win that war. You have to come up with a sure drone-proofing system or completely rethink the weapons you're deploying.
>we>we>usya ok
>>540773859Due to complete private corporate takeover of the MIC, we are locked in to producing only THE MOST expensive and complicated shit for maximized profits and budget milking.Fucking stupid
>>540773719Ukraine isn't even equal, that's the sad part. We'd beat Ukraine if we just spent chump change on the same drones and fought Ukraine tanks. The worrying part is that we don't even know what the fuck China has. They're just smarter than America by pretty much every metric at this point, and chances are actually have fool-proof anti-drone technology, while also possessing drones that get past our shitty anti-drone technology.
>>540774060well if you come up with sure drone proofing system and superiority in critical areas, that is not a war it is just a hunt
>>540774060They know you’re right, the problem is that drone proofing loses against attrition (for the same reason stuffing AA on battleships didn’t work out), and rethinking weapons your fielding is a catastrophe when the old weapons in the old formations under the old meta were basically invincible.
>>540774263But that is the whole point, if you have the counter you have already won. The war itself is about finding it out.
>>540772120the time of high tech materiel on the ground is pretty much over. it will be low tech drones and electronic warfare from now on. maybe robots if they can produce them at scale, too.but tanks and so on are no longer economically feasible when they cost billions but can get taken out by drones that cost a couple hundred bucks a piece.
>>540774263>we’d beat Ukraine if we blew up Ukrainian tanks with our drones. This is unlikely, because the US doesn’t have the logistical capability to fight the kind of war you’d need to beat a country the size of Ukraine if you can’t just carve up the country with armored columns. The US is at a huge disadvantage under the current meta, because it’s so far removed geographically from the theaters it recently dominated that it can’t just pivot to another order of battle if shock and awe can’t be saved. There is no workable plan B. It’s not just that it hasn’t been worked out as of yet, it’s physically impossible without some kind of incredibly unexpected development that saves blitzkrieg as a viable strategy.
>>540774255this.in practice, this is not a bad thing. it makes defense much cheaper when you can rely on low tech drones that make a war against you financially non-viable because you can endlessly cuck supply lines and cause untold financial damage by blowing up expensive materiel. it should be in the interest of the general populace (since it also reduces the risk of war, drones are great for defending but less useful when you're the aggressor, they can't occupy shit).but the war machine bows to the demands of a few, not the interests of the many.
>>540772120Are they ready for land invasion of Iran?
Ukraine could conquer the continental USA if they shared a land border. Yeah, not saying much since the USA can be conquered by obese Mexican women and from within- obese nigger women paired with a handful of kikes.
>>540775487We wouldn't conquer the US because it's a shithole of male on male rape just like Russia
