So when will this shithole collapse
smells desperate
>>540783968show your flag, Mamdani
>>540783968they might not even survive the decade>inb4 endless gringoy cope
>>540783968Whatever comes after, you're certainly not going to like it
>>540783968>in our expert opinion based on the practice of an unfalsifiable economic theoryNo
>>540783968an impossible truthnuke for most americlaps to accept is that trump is a symptom of american decline
>>540784233yeah thats what happens when you have 200 million shitskins
>>540783968when you stop sucking cocks im told
>>5407839681999
>>540784432of course he is, but don't act like your nation is any better. We're all fucked
>>540784439Well if anything if it wasn't for the brown skins who actively work for the white illegally and underpaid America would have collapsed even faster since whites are so lazy and too inept to do blue collar work
>>540784307Sadly thisThe Soviet Union collapsed without much of an issue for the rest of the world, not sure the fall of the gringoy empire will go as smoothly
>>540784233Do you even know what would happen to mexico if the usa collapsed? Lol, lmao even.
>>540783968Two weeks
no worrythey will just reset the lands again and reuse all the old state buildings and folklore for the next attempt in the USA
>>540784651what if he wants that.
>>540784651Yeah, I'm perfectly aware that Mexico will get the worse part from your fallI wasn't celebrating, just being realistic about the state of your empire.
>>540784590>t. insufferable shitskinwhen america collapses you're all going to be brutally slaughtered
>>5407839682 more weeks
>>540783968Probably takes 30 years. We will live to see it the collapse tho.Killing a moderate like Charlie Kirk is the republic equivalent of Nailing Ciceros hands and tongue to the forum....No senator in their right mind will feel free to speak without immense institutional backing ever again, and so free open debate is effectively over. It will take a Sullas level purge to bring US democracy back from the brink.
>>540783968It's already collapsed. There is no big bang event, it just kinda happens before you realize it.Roman citizens didn't even know the empire collapsed until they stopped getting new minted coins and noticed that no one was maintaining any of the public infrastructure for years
>>540784824Fair enough. I have no animosity towards mexicans in mexico
>>540785002It hasnt collapsed quite yet. Not while we still have the petrodollar. But when we lose it and we will its over.
>>540784233Your government can't even fight a bunch of drugdealers.
>>540785002This. The Roman senate continued to meet for 70 years after the Goths deposed the last Emperor. They were more than happy to keep up the facade
>>540784307It really wouldn't surprise me if the government was accelerating it's own collapse to help rich or connected people become warlords
>>540785002I know the story Romans didn't knew when it collapsed but it had several civil wars
>>540785178Coworkers shouldn’t fight at all, that’s a toxic work environment.
>>540785002Source? Not contesting, want to know the details
>>540785273Not that anon, but i highly recommend you watch this video for context.https://youtu.be/C2slCUcnOIc?si=xHHVGUt-FKrNc-8b
>>540785143>petrodollarDude your 1 dollar is worth 10 cents. The inflation is approaching infinity. You don't seriously think this is still a currency do you?
>>540783968I guess this channel is the equivalent of those videos saying China will collapse.
>>540785561The petrodollar is the only thing keeping it at 10 cents. Without it it would be worth 0.0000001 cents
>>540785561Americans have lost half of its purchasing power in 6 years
>>540783968Doomporn channel. We're doing pretty good actually. Also, we're not an empire.
>>540783968>Chinkoid propaganda youtube account
>>540785189one side is trying to collapse it (while looting the treasury), the other side is trying to save it. same scenario happening in every country in the west rn. not a single person on /pol/ has ever brought up how western nations are simultaneously being bled of their wealth and sovereignty.
>>540783968Two weeks jeet
>>540783968
>>540786039Absolutely. And price of petrol is going up.>>540786070First time? Something similar but worse happened in Bulgaria in 1996-1997. Real hyperinflation - 2000%. What you have here are rookie numbers. The main difference is that back then it was a local economy crash but today it's global.
>>540785267Kek!
>>540786020China has own problems but those are not even near as bad as yours....shit happens when you let billionares set all laws and rules.
>>540783968we might collapse, but everybody else will collapse first.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds&ra=m
>>540784432an impossible truthnuke for most retards is to accept is that american decline has been going on for at least 20 years.Some would argue 50 or 60 years.
>>540786540No, no. America first. YMCA MAGA!
probably not any time soon. they're stepping on the gas harder though recently with all of the ever-increasing psychopathic 1984 shit they're rolling out, like the spy state cameras, the zog police torture gloves, and throwing people in prison for sleeping in their cars. it's getting a lot worse out there.meanwhile all of the politicians, kikes and rich psycho CEOs openly do drugs, fuck kids, steal money and collude with foreign agents for everyone to see. this place may as well be hell-lite.
>>540783968https://youtu.be/7w1bEfXqo-A
>>540783968Never, knowing the reality we live in, the collapse is gonna be constantly on the brink of happening it never goes over the line, it goes just close enough to make the pain and suffering that much horrible.EVERYTHING will keep degrading forever, until we descend into a hellish landscape and stop remembering how good we had it just a couple years ago.
>>540783968when the petrodollar dies. it will happen after the US pulls out of the ME. we'll go through the worst financial crisis we've ever seen.
>>540786422Yes but no one gives a shit about bulgaria.When countries like Japan ditch the dollar for crypto or gold America inflation will reach infinite numbers
>>540786568I would say the decline slowly started around 1980. After 2001 it got really noticeable. Temporarily masked after 2008. Free falling after 2020. Empires aren't built in a day and they don't collapse in a day. Fall of Ottoman empire took hundreds of years.
>>540783968It all depends on how collapse is defined. There will be localized collapse and things going to shit in certain places while other places limp by. That’s already happening anyway. Balkanization at some point. 5-10 years depending on what happens
>>540786803My point is that we lived through what's happening in usa. Of course it was terrible and nobody besides Bulgarians cares. But when it happens to 350 million of people in the world's most developed country nobody will be indifferent.
>>540783968While unlikely, I do hope it collapses. Simply because, rebuilding it would force removal of what caused the problem to begin with. (kikes, women's rights including the 19th amendment, etc.)
>>540786785>we'll go through the worst financial crisis we've ever seen.Suddenly the preparations for apocalypse make sense. May God help you recover from your own foreign policy mistakes.
>>540786929Not that I want to shit Bulgarians.Is just all currencies are tied to the dollar reason why Americas can print infinite Dollars unaffected But the dollar disconnect is already happeningAnd it will happen with Japan firstEurope second China thirdAnd so on
It'll happen when the weather cools.That's when they'll make their move.
>>540787105Sure, no offense taken.Why Japan first? Is it because they are already getting rid of american government bonds?The system was rigged and we can have a better one with the current technologies and knowledge.By the way something similar happened to the British empire after ww2. And now it's no longer an Empire.
If they annex Canada and Greenland, it will be a 1,000 year empire, unironically
I firmly believe anyone who thinks the US will collapse due to our currency can't see the forest for the trees. They also hyper fixate on the dollar, and not WHY they're attached to the dollar.The mechanics, causes, and reasons for being attached to the dollar have not changed, period end statement.
>>540786070
>>540787453>13 years agoprophetic
>>540787333>If they annex Canada and Greenland, it will be a 1,000 year empire, unironicallyMan they can't even open a Water cannal.Even if the Jews are begging them to do it President of the United States hides in a food cart
>>540787424American dollar is tied to the military capacity to obtain resources.What is happening at Hormuz?
>>540787666>American dollar is tied to the military capacity to obtain resources.Wrong
>>540787695>WrongWe'll see how wrong his statement is after the middle east fiasco ends.
>>540785179Correct. It’s a process we’re already undeniably in. The rich building bunkers, buying yachts, establishing new hideouts in Antarctica. It’s the same thing as the Roman aristocracy and Roman jews moving en masse to the Eastern Roman Emoire as the west fell. We’re already living it. Stuff like this is like a runaway train too. There’s no stopping that kind of momentum on a dime, you gotta start miles away
>>540788452We don't need to wait and see anything, the American Dollar's value is not based on the militaries ability/capacity to obtain resources. Anyone with any basic knowledge about how the global economy functions would know this.
>>540788583>the USD’s value is in no way tied to the globohomo empire’s ability to power project goyim Lmfao. No wonder it’s lost half its value in like 5 years
>>540788738You shouldn't comment on topics you can't comprehend Anon, it just makes you look stupid.If you're just pretending to be stupid then well, you're not actually pretending.
>>540788583Sure thing buddy.
>>540786568Ever since the (((New Deal))) and (((Civil Rights Act)))
>>540789272I'll treat you like the unintelligent individual you are and talk real simple like for you, and the other retards who think that the American Dollar's value is as the person I quoted before is > tied to the military capacity to obtain resources.This is obviously, and easily provably untrue. Do you genuinely believe most of the value the US has produced has been tied Directly to resource extraction?What did we extract from Vietnam? What did we extract from Iraq, or Afghanistan? Do you really believe the majority of our economic value came from direct resource extraction from two of the poorest nations on the planet? What were we extracting? What were we investing in that produced value, only obtainable from our military obtaining resources from these areas? Got any numbers or figures for the natural resources our military got out of it? I wasn't aware we were mining pure gold in these locations.Show me the raw data on how Iraq, and Afghanistan were wealthy enough for our military to go in and directly extract value from them.
>>540784233>gringoy
>>540789670holy shit ijust realized that you have no idea what you are babbling about lololol
If it was going to collapse, you wouldn't have to keep pushing this narrative
>>540783968collapse has been happening for a long time. come to my shithole city, its bad
>>540789761Almost like you have to admit that our dollars value isn't from direct resource extraction so you have zero argument.
So did any one develop any talents during lockdown or invent something Now would be a great time to emerge
>>540789670Are you drunk?
>>540789875>our dollarsYour dollars only have value because they are the base of global economy. Which was guaranteed by war monopoly and resource extraction and trade monopoly. Get off your high horse.
>>540787453Stuff like this is why I read 4chan/pol. Damn.
>>540788554Anon, you're truly delusional if you think Jews are ever voluntarily leaving America. Even if this country collapsed, which it won't, not quickly, as most viewbaiters on jewtube and melodramatic part-time history buffs try to pretend it will, but even if it did collapse long-term, it will still be one of the places that is the better off shitholes among the world's shitholes. There are simply far too many natural resources, freshwater, arable land, and wide open living space with the most hospitable climates aside from the far north, but even they do quite a bit of farming. Just look at North Dakota for one of many examples. It is called the land of milk and honey for a reason. The rest of the world is constantly trying to illegally flood over its borders for a reason. The only way to get rid of the jews, all of their imported shit-colored parasites, and to restore the land to how it was is by fighting them, and not rolling over and hoping that a tribe of millions of psychotic schizos will suddenly decide to stop raping, torturing, mutilating, murdering, and robbing you.
>>540790420>Your dollars only have value because they are the base of global economySo they have value because goods are traded, people believe in their value, and continue to invest in the nation whos currency has value, thus increasing or maintaining the value.Not resource extraction like was claimed?Wow its almost like I was right the entire time. Thanks for admitting it.
>>540787092it will impact the entire world since the USD is the reserve currency
>>540791037People are pissed off and tired of you exporting inflation worldwide. You can no longer maintain this >>540791210Reserve currency but not for long.
>>540791037You can trade with crypto,yen,gold,sand,oil,pokemon cards why would you need the dollar for?
>>540791313>>540791337Just admit you don't know what you're talking about.
>>540791337Because us military used to force you and me to trade with dollars. Buy petrol with dollars and so on. But that was when amerika stronk. Amerika weak now. Green card no longer desired. My ameican dream is that america would leave everyone alone and just mind it's local american business.
>>540791475I know that ameica forced my country to buy overpriced airplanes which we don't need. Iran showed that your military industry is based on bullshit jobs and bullshit economy. China released open weight models with great performance and suddenly OpenAI reduced api price by up to 80%.US Dollar is a stock. Once very popular now not as much. All I'm saying is that usa is losing world trade war badly. Something similar happened to the British Empire before and it's happening to you now although you don't believe it. Not my problem, I don't give a damn. You are the same morons as the Russians. Always thinking you are better and smarter than people from small countries.
>>540791751So, your entire basis for you belief in how the American Economy/patrol dollar works, is entirely based off your feefees, and not actual economic understanding?Sounds about right.
>>540784432they won't get it, trump is a reflection of themselves through and through
>>540791515>>540791751>forcedhow exactly? what they threaten to cut off gibs? thats not force thats you are a whore
>>540791985These people can't comprehend the basic economic fact that America is the richest country in the world, and your nation would be extremely unintelligent not to trade with it.Instead they think its only through force that they'd ever want to engage in trade with a nation that's rich.
>>540783968>Memeflag
>>540783968if that video doesn't mention Biden letting in 8 million illegals in 4 years and injecting $2 trillion into an economy that was already hot as influencing at least 2 of those steps, you know it's 100% full of shit.
>>540792160you are a midwit. The entire petrodollar rests on 2 things-1. We exchange worthless goybux for useful commodities because other countries want a reserve of dollars2. (And this is the most important part) We force other countries to resolve their global petroleum trades in dollars (petrodollar) otherwise we will bomb youThe entire thing hinges on the dollar being a stable store of value (it’s not anymore) and the military being able to project force anywhere in the world (it can’t anymore) You are absolute moron if you think America isn’t completely fucked if countries start ditching the petrodollar. It will be the end of the US Empire
>>540792160>>540791985Yes yes, thank you masters for printing money for my bullshit office job which supported me for multiple years until I got bored of it. Your daily scrum which was based on manufacturing processes of toyota was the the best cultural thing I've ever experienced in my life.Now please open the strait of Hormuz because gasoline here costs twice the price it was in 2020. Yo are numero uno, yo can do it!
>>540787453Will the rich stay or will they flee?
>>540792773>"you are a midwit">Claims the USD is worthlessObjects are not worthless if others believe it to have value. Who's the midwit?>>540792781Cry more, you complain about USD, yet your nation just sucked off the EU to have Eurocuckbucks.On one hand you complain we "forced" you to do something, which is untrue, and on the other hand your own people have slaved themselves to another's system.You're cattle, and you don't even know it.
>>540783968Will USA collapse like Soviet Union into smaller states or the country will remain in its current form but with the new form of economic and government model?
>>540792773Thanks for clarifying >>540792160That doesn't know anything of economicsAmerica is rich because x corporate see America as a stable place to do business.If X corporate no longer sess America as a good place to do business they just move the business elsewhere
>>540793016We are about to see but Balkanization is likely.USSR didn't collapse in so many states because most of its territory to the east is just empty
>>540793017>America is rich because x corporate see America as a stable place to do business.Yes, money has value because others view that money has having value. Congrats, you've learned something grade school children comprehend at lunch when they trade their food.
>>540793142You idiot America is becoming the most unstable place at the world at the moment A Jenga box is more stable at the moment than the politics of the US
>>540783968Shit holes usually never collapse they only become shittier.
>>540793008My country is not perfect either. We always have an abundance of traitors. Being pegged to euro was smart. Adopting it was Greece tier economic stupidity. I mean, we could have swapped euro (which is just derivative of the dollar anyways) for something more stable.But we are occupied by nato and eu. Politically, economically and military. I couldn't have expected anything better from a country of six million people, most of whom are gypsy and drunks.
>>540793198But this particular shit box has the second largest stock pile of nuclear weapons reason when shit hits the fan all nations worldwide will fight to get a piece
>>540793197Cry some more memeflag, you have had zero intelligent points in this entire thread, you're just like the Asiatic Bulgar, crying over your feelings without comprehending the things you complain about.
>>540793016Future will show but my expectations are that it will shrink just it's influence to being a local power.
>>540784083>take already funny image with easy to understand joke>make it less funny by adding pointless captioni'll never understand this meme
>>540790691>everything is alright goyim just look at North Dakota there’s still a few White Americans there lol. Yeah Balkanization in like 5-10 years is still the most likely outcome
>>540793314You remind me of the Orange Nigger this country has as president.I was extremely joyful for seeing Trump as president so we can finally have someone who truly represents American arrogance and stupidity combined.>WE HAVE THE STRONFES MILITARY ON EARTH >We are afraid of sending our troops to Iran>Our president has to exit on food carts because Iran's are le evilIf you don't believe me.Read the presidency of Richard Nixon and why the dollar had to be de pegged from the dollar and combined to the US petrol
there is no other empire to take over
>>540793564Didn't read anything past the first sentence, you're obviously some brownoid who is ashamed of his owns people stupidity, yet takes pride in it because well, thats what niggers do.Continue to cry, and memeflag, you know it in your brown little heart, my people, are better than you.
No worries ‘stage 7’ can drag on for decades
>>540793314>Asiatic BulgarThanks for the compliment, Lockheed Martin Looter King. Your country can't deliver the planes we paid for fully in advance. They are postponing the delivery by another 3 years. Worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.Worst trade empire as well. You can't even make muscle cars anymore. China beats you in the AI battle. You superhero who saves the world status has been revoked.
>>540788825All you’ve done in this thread is call other people who are pointing out that the USD is losing its reserve status unintelligent or uneducated. A currency losing a status like that is a process, one that is most certainly well underway already. The share of foreign reserves held by other nations in USD as a total percentage of world debt is collapsing. Major economies no longer see the same need to have dollars like they once did. All the growth opportunities seem to be in other currencies, and globohomo jews just use the currency as a political weapon to support jews anyway. The entire world has noticed. Thats the canary in the coal mine dead in its cage, but please tell us again how unintelligent we all are, it will be an interesting read.
>>540793515Why do you think so? Is it because white people are becoming minority?
>>540784880You’re obese. Youre harmless. You’re sexless. You’re jobless. You’re penniless. You will never have children.You won’t do shit.
>>540783968The fall of the American empire doesn't mean the fall of the US It'll just become an irrelevant shithole like Britain.
>>540793487It's a boomerism. They ate lead paint.
>>540793314> you're just like the Asiatic BulgarThese globohomo jew insults meant to remoralize American White men are so awful. One can tell some stupid low energy goblino wrote this shit
>>540793739You've not understood much.I'm not denying that the USD has lost value, i've denied every point as to why its lost value, or as to how it gained that value, because every argument for both those reasons in this thread have been entirely fucking retarded and wrong. Not one person has hit the nail on the head as to what has happened.Thanks for participating.
>>540783968Two more weeks
>>540784590People don't bother to do work or even learn how because no one hires White men and there is no incentive at all beyond "keeping this society that you hate going"That's not enough incentive.
2 more weeks!
>>540783968Collapse is a process, it's already happening.
>>540793777>irrelevant shithole like BritainThat's the hard to swallow pill for some of them burgers.
>>540793806You know where Bulgars came from right? They're Turkic
How will the American Empire collapse if they win the AI race? Which they are currently winning
>>540786568Ever since the 1940's. We should have sided with Hitler, but instead we set up our own enemy in the Soviets and poisoned ourselves with Jews. Hell, the only reason we entered WW2 is because FDR was compromised by Jews and Marxism. The only reason we are still #1 is sheer inertia. It's embarrassing other nations haven't taken our place by now.
>>540783968>So when will this shithole collapsewhen republicans turn it into the epstine dictatorship
>>540793515Balkanization is still sad. It means Americans will just squabble with each other like EuropeansRealistically it is either that or a dictator saves us.
>>540793806Yes but I don't give a damn. While I live right next to Asia and some of the Asian food, culture, philosophy is almost native here it's proven by genetics that I am as European as one can be. Because my ancestors lived in the same land where I live.>>540793964Some turks (including an ottoman emperor or two) are Bulgarian, not the other way around.
>>540786929The difference is that the US gives gibs to everyone but no one will be there to give gibs to us. They aren't now and we already are starting to need it, instead kikes and darkies keep getting everything and we don't even get scraps
>>540784651The rise of aztlan and reconquista?
>>540794084>The Bulgars were Turkic semi-nomadic warrior tribes that flourished in the Pontic–Caspian steppe and the Volga region between the 5th and 7th centuries.Cope some more Asian, you're not white.
>>540793016The only way we remain whole is if there is a civil war with a clear victor or a dictator pushes through reforms and saves the nation.Every other scenario leads to Balkanization at least temporarily.
>>540794201This bullshit theory has been proven false many times already.
>>540793745> Is it because white people are becoming minority?That’s a major issue but hardly the only one. There is simply no shared cultural glue. No shared ideological anything. No community. The boomer generation ate the future of their children and grandchildren along with the globohomo jews. Everything is for a foreign country, not even the most basic help for us. Our elected leaders just do the opposite of what we vote for. Our legal system is Byzantine as hell and set up to favor jews and shitskins and harm everyone else. Gynocentric shit is everywhere. There is no shared religious faith of any kind. We don’t have any common stories of anything good or heroes anymore.The entire economy everywhere is in debt, the currency is dying. It’s only held together through coercion and systems at this point. To make things even worse, we know there is a big war with the chinks over Taiwan coming up. They’ll send a bunch of us White men off to be sacrificed for people and an economic opportunity zone that hate us. Football isn’t even that popular anymore, we don’t even really have a shared sport anymore. Now consider that this place is huge in terms of geography, with the economic interests and desires of various regions being quite different. Economic dynamism and innovation are distant memories, with arbitrary regulations strangling everything. We have armies of retard useless HR tier roasties in workplaces who don’t do anything other than schedule meetings and act as political commissars. It seems like an extremely similar setup to the experience the Soviets were going through in the 80’s. We don’t have any singular strong ethnic identity or history like ethnic Russians were in the Soviet Union though. I think Balkanization is all but guaranteed.
>>540794311You're legitimately delusional. Genetics do not lie, Bulgars are Genetically Turkic. Cry some more Turkroach
>>540794148>kikesPlay (((kike))) games, win (((kike))) prices. Do I need to say that usa is more kiked than israel?
>>540784892Who?
>>540793821> Thanks for participating.You’re such a tranny. Go back to plebbit or /k/ or wherever you rolled in from
>>540793882> keeping this society that hates you goingHere Fix’d this for u. We were born here and loved it. It always hated us memeflag jew
>>540786638Are ya enjoying that republican controlled all three branches of government, citizen?
>>540794398>Can't admit his entire point was wrongIts okay, cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing, just like the Asian who can't admit he's not European.
>>540794365The moment you start doing personal insults is when I know you've lost all your arguments
>>540793985> The only reason we are still #1 is sheer inertia.We’re not #1 anymore by a long shot. It isn’t even inertia at this point, just media and narrative cope. Globohomo losing wars everywhere shows that to be the case
>>540794521You've been doing personal insults this entire thread, you must be really desperate and ashamed of your asian heritage to try and shift now.
>>540783968link you retarded gorilla fucking nigger
>>540783968which stage has the population turning brown?
>>540794079It’s better than whatever evil globohomo jew dictator the globohomos would install to keep an iron grip. They tried the same thing in the Roman republic, no one is fooled.
>>540794319There are scenarios that we avoid it but all of them involve action before a collapse happens or action during it, which is looking unlikely. A lot of people are too demoralized and apathetic to care. I can't blame them, I'm only just barely not.>>540794370>Do I need to sayNo, everyone knows that Jews love leeching off of us in the US and only have Israel/Khazaria as a back up plan at best.>>540794441Of course I love the country and support it as a nationalist. But if my area is majority non White and consistently undermines me, then I grow to hate society and seek to change it. Society hasn't been pro White for quite some time in the US. Arguably since Lincoln died it has becoming less and less pro White from the poison that post enlightenment, egalitarianist ideas have spread and influenced.>>540794530We still are, but once we lose economic power we are done. As you say, we have no way to enforce policy anymore besides economic bullying because our military is a joke.
>>540783968this is browniod thirdworldism cope.
>>540794201>capitalizes Asian but not WhiteYou’re a White man hating globohomo jew who is in no position to opine on who is or isn’t an ethnic European
>>540783968>muh collapseAmerica will decline in importance it won't be able to do things as it did 50 years ago but it won't be a collapse in a definitive moment like say Germany after WW1.
>>540794640Dictatorship could be evil, it could be just. It entirely depends on who holds the position. Caesar was great, plenty of Roman emperors after him were great, Hitler was great, etc.
>Empires rises>wealth concentrates at the top>the people call for redistribution>the wealthy seize control of government to prevent wealth redistribution>the empire slowly rots away and diesIt's this over and over again all throughout history. Human beings cannot overcome their own greed.
>>540794687I capitalize things based on what I what to emphasize the most.You still haven't made any intelligent point yet.
>>540783968In about 336 hours along with China after the war in Ukraine ends with the intervention of the aliens. Trust the plan.
>>540794319Thank for the elaborate explanation. Some of this I already knew however I'm very far from you and American life.Nothing lasts forever. Empires rise and fall. Germany and Japan managed to rise again after WW2. You will recover eventually in one way or another. But nothing will be the same of course. People here already ridicule USA for how old their president and senators are. It's something that shows how dysfunctional your system is. EU is also near a similar collapse. The thing with empires is that they usually die soon after they no longer can expand.
>>540793008>muh subjective theory of valueFiat currency is generally backed up by domestic manufacturing ability, of which that sector has been decimated in the US. The “muh size of the U.S. economy” is nonsense when inflation is ballooning. You probably still think GDP is a meaningful metric. Everything you’ve said is Jewish propaganda.
>>540794521Don’t bother replying to him anon he’s a globohomo jew shill
>>540794696>America will decline in importance it won't be able to do things as it did 50 years ago but it won't be a collapse in a definitive moment like say Germany after WW1.We are living through the early stages of our Weimar. Once we hit total economic collapse (which is more likely by the day) we will have nothing left. You underestimate how bad things are here already, all we need is one big event to form that "definitive moment"
>>540794799It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what the people using USD, and paying for goods in USD think the value is.Basic economic theory.
>>540794816You are right, depriving them of attention is the best move.
>>540794679> We still are, but once we lose economic power we are done.There is no ((we)) moishe, and that ship has already sailed. It may be difficult for you to understand because you’re in Tel Aviv, but it is that way on the ground here. You’re on your own in your sandbox
>>540794834Whites are naturally violent people.The dollar is the only thing keeping them asleep.Once the dollar and its value is gone they will return to its tribal and violent nature
>>540783968the 1960's
>>540794872You ignore me because you're not white, you're not intelligent, every point you had in this thread wasn't based on logic, but your own feelings, you can't comprehend economics, and you're living in a worthless shithole no one even in your own region thinks about.The Gyps in Romania are more intelligent than your people
>>540794726No one is interested in empire games to help out jews, that’s all that bullshit ever turns out to be. Fuck off, face Iran on your own
>>540784233there will be no collapse. It will be a slow managed grind downwards, like the British empire that preceded it. There will be no glorious revolution or savior.
>>540794696>but it won't be a collapse in a definitive moment like say Germany after WW1.that dependsIf Iran actually manages to hold them all hostage and they get their 300billion they just might have the same fate
>>540783968if jews dont need em anymore to drain wealth and let em die in their wars...
>>540795016The British did have a collapse though. It was WW2. People forget that they willingly burned their empire at the alter in a short sided move just to prevent Germany from dominating Europe. Instead kikes in the US and UK set up the Soviets in Europe instead, making all their sacrifices completely meaningless. Hitler even warned them this very thing would happen and they didn't listen
>>540794854>basic economic theory>dollars have value because kikes say they doObjective value exists in the form of use and exchange value. No, it is not “just what people think it’s worth” and the only reason that narrative is touted by (((economists))) is because it lets Fed banks print as much money as they want out of thin air.
>>540795080The national humiliation here is certainly reaching WW1 levels. Even before the war other nations constantly ridiculed us and called us low class, idiots, greedy, etc. Which is partially true because of Jews, but the point is that you might be right and if the Iran shit ends in a humiliating fashion, America will be as demoralized as Weimar was. We are already almost there.
>>540795135>Hitler even warned them this very thing would happen and they didn't listenThey didn't listen because England has always been (and still is) afraid of union between Germany with it's technical thinking and Russia with abundance of cheap resources. That's why nord stream was destroyed
>>540795208Again, it doesn't matter what you think. If people who use USD believe it has value, and they do, it has a value.Nothing you say will change reality.
>>540794760> Germany and Japan managed to rise again after WW2.The German people are mostly dead and gone, raped out of existence or replaced. I guess if one considers a bunch of Turks, Arabs, Africans and whatever else to be Germans, sure. Japan and Germany were old cultures and nations though. The U.S. isn’t anything like that. Their plan as always is to forge a new national identity jews decide on through the shared suffering in whatever upcoming huge war there is. That’s what the formula has been in the lead up to the last two world wars. Destabilize the population domestically until its breaking point, then ship a bunch of young men off to be sacrificed and write new stories of heroism. The issue is everyone knows that’s the pattern, the strategy now. We know they want to get rid of a lot of us so we can be replaced with even more shitskins like what is happening in Ukraine.
>>540795258Romania has an economy three times the size, thats truly remarkable how bad Asians are at economics. That explains your opinions, and inferiority complex.
>>540795258It's just silly thinking from the brits. The UK and Hitler could have shared hegemony over Europe but the British basically ruined everything for both of them. The British have shown that they don't actually understand realpolitik and that they let doctrine of a divided Europe dictate everything they do. Even if a united Europe would be in their favor
>>540795256>as demoralized as Weimar wasand paying a sum similiar to that what germany had to pay after versaillesIF Iran manages that
>>540795452Economically America is already fucked. That will just make it impossible to hide if so.
>>540785033Mexico is based we will liberate them from their jewish overlords as we race towards Brazil shits going to be OMEGA BASED!!!!!!!! ACCELERATE!!!!!!! HURRY UP AND COLLAPSE!!!!!!
>>540795280Explain to me your theory of value right now without using the word “thinks”. It doesn’t matter what people “think” it’s worth, it matters what form of currency it is including commodity money and HOW AND TO WHOM IT IS CREATED AND ISSUED. The dollar hasn’t inflated because people “think” it’s worth less. Everything you are saying is wrong and is absolute brainlet tier understanding of economics
>>540795258Smart Bulgarian is smart. The British have done that their entire history, because a continental economic system would mean Britain becomes an irrelevant backwater and her royal navy would have been worthless. The U.S. doesn’t have a 1000 year history of stories and heroes and a people. It simply doesn’t have any of that. Nor are we a tiny island where the geography almost forces people to work together. Balkanization is the only outcome I can imagine because I can’t see any glue that actually holds a nation together at all,
>>540795333I think the best decision in such situation is to quarantine israel.
>>540795610OkayOthers use USD, based on its value, right now, there are billions of dollars being used in trade because people KNOW it has value.How can you claim, that it doesn't?
>>540785002>This is the way the world ends >This is the way the world ends >This is the way the world ends >Not with a bang but a whimper.
>>540795622>Balkanization is the only outcome I can imagine because I can’t see any glue that actually holds a nation together at all,We used to have manifest destiny as that glue but it has been replaced with White guilt and shameUnless we restore the spirit of manifest destiny then we will end up exactly as you say
>>540795622>>540795622>The British have done that their entire historyI don't blame for doing what they think is in their own best interest. They didn't adopt the euro and instead did the Brexit. USA did create computers, internet and the modern communications the way we have them now. It is something highly significant for the human civilization. The major difficulty of maintaining your country is that it requires huge amount of energy and resources because of it's size. Continental Europe can shrink it's consumption and survive but you have to rely on something else. Balkanizing into smaller decentralized but well connected communities seems like a smart strategy.
>>540793266The USSR's nukes weren't particularly relevant when they collapsed, why would ours be?
>>540795135>The British did have a collapse though. It was WW2.Yes, but it took decades to fully play out for the people living in the UK proper. That's my point. Their currency took like 40 years to fully decline from preeminence to meaninglessness in international trade
>>540795929forgot to say, right now, America is having it's version of the Suez crisis, so we're somewhere in the middle
>>540795929>Yes, but it took decades to fully play out for the people living in the UK proper.Not really. Not just in money, but even in simple things like food the UK was on the brink of collapse all throughout WW2 and was wholly dependent on lend lease and American aid to even survive. Even post war, they only were able to bounce back to their declined state because of, again, American aid.
>>540795929This is not true, their currency nose dived during WW1 when the global financial hub went from London to New York due to all the loans the Brits had to take out against US capital.
>>540795675> right now, there are billions of dollars being used in trade because people KNOW it has value.An engine can run on fumes in the tank when the gas has run out you know. The important understanding is that the share of foreign reserves other countries hold as USD is cratering. People and countries still need it to participate in various aspects of the current economic setup, but all of the growth and good returns exist elsewhere, so everyone is slowly winding down the number of dollars they hold.There’s also a geopolitical element to this as well. Many countries hate the U.S. and have for quite some time, they have no sad feelers about lowering their dollar exposure. globohomo just stole all of Russia’s foreign reserves, I think they might have done the same or similar with Iran. Every government in the world sees that and knows that holding dollars is only ok so long as you sing Globohomo’s tune perfectly. Nobody likes that. Finally, a lot of wealthy people are also moving out physically or at the very least diversifying a ton of their wealth out of here.
>>540796042it's not exactly the same, history rhymes it doesn't repeat. There is no new superpower(s) waiting in the wings like back then, despite what people claim about China. America is food surplus, we haven't just had a global catastrophic war etc etc. The UK didn't collapse immediately after WW2, you're just wrong.
>>540796125So, if Billions of people think that USD has value, and you, one singular person thinks that it doesn't. Explain to me why YOU, one person who has this belief, why do you trump all the billions of people who believe that it does have value?Why are you so special as to invalidate the beliefs of billions?
>>5407961041931 they abandoned gold backing, 1975 IMF bailout. Those are the important dates. 45 years
>>540783968>So when will this shithole collapseTwo Weeks.
>>540796132China definitely can't become a super power at this rate. For all their bluster, they are utterly reliant on the West buying cheap shit from them to keep their economy afloat. They depend on us as much as kikes depend on them.Also the UK didn't collapse after WW2, it collapsed during. It was during the war that they lost the ability to project their power and any ability to be self reliant as a nation. That is the reason they didn't contest the Soviets about 99% of things.I agree food shortages will only be temporary in the US, if at all, but we will have other issues that can't be solved if trends continue. Demographics being a huge one
>>540796228Wrong, in 1914 they suspended the gold standard for years due to the war, they never recovered from this. Google it.
>>540795707> We used to have manifest destiny as that glue but it has been replaced with White guilt and shame>Unless we restore the spirit of manifest destiny then we will end up exactly as you sayMoishe, I understand all of that. Manifest destiny was a jewish idea cooked up as “progressive” and the “good thing”. We were going to Christianize and civilize these barbarian natives and Africans and they’d love us for it, remember? It asserts that there’s a religious and spiritual claim to land, a very similar setup to your claims on your sandbox, right? Your issue is that everyone understands that’s the case more or less already. We’re not interested in a new big meme great awakening for goyslop Christianity when people invent a new judaism for the Americas like Mormonism. You guys spent far too long shifting on us, and doing it way too viciously. The goyim know, that can’t be stressed enough.
>>540795913> Balkanizing into smaller decentralized but well connected communities seems like a smart strategy.That’s what all the data centers all over, and the ones buried in hardened structures, are for. They’ll probably be the new hubs or gateways of the splinternets that arise out of this.
>>540794187Lol HAHAHAHA
>>540796349>Manifest destiny was a jewish idea cooked up as “progressive” and the “good thing”It wasn't Jewish, though it eventually got twisted into it with White man's burden. Don't forget we killed a lot of natives during that time to expand. And that was hardly the worst thing ever.
>>540795970> America is having it's version of the Suez crisis, so we're somewhere in the middleWere speed running ours with tech, greed and incompetence though
>>540783968The best path forward (especially for whiteys) would be the balkanization of the United States. Splitting the country into separate sovereign territories is the only way to escape decades of entrenched liberal, freemason jewish elite rule hellhole.And then brussels EU cuck union..
>>540795970Wrong, we don't rely on trade through Hormuz, the Brits did rely on trade through Suez.
>>540783968THE AMERICAN EMPIRE IS OVER>Jewish economist and professor of international affairs Richard Wolff says the American Empire is cooked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUKVMsd7Rgk
>>540796199>no no goyim, you have to pay attention to the first order derivative >you can’t evaluate the second order acceleration derivative like every business and intelligent person ever has done lol. Lmao, even.
>>540796584Again, you can't justify or back up your reasoning, good to know.You believing in something doesn't make it true. Especially with economics.
>>540795675Fiat currency by definition has no objective value other than the 2 reasons I’ve listed above. The petrodollar is uniquely linked to why countries hold vast reserve of dollars, that are issued to these countries via bonds, and can be used to trade in the globally accepted dollar, via this arrangement we can control USD inflation, and trade for useful commodities made cheaply in China and the 3rd world. But why is the dollar accepted globally? Because we bomb anyone who opposes the petrodollar, if countries ceased resolving their petroleum trades in the dollar, they would have little reason to hold vast reserves of the dollar vs any other currency. All of this means that the dollar isn’t worth much domestically, but is vastly more valuable across the world as a store of value. If the petrodollar ceases to exist, and global reserves of dollars are not as useful as any other currency, they would not buy the bonds and the U.S. would cease to be able to meaningfully take advantage of this arrangement to purchase commodities and control inflation.Furthermore, countries would sell their dollar reserves, and all of those dollars coming home domestically to roost WILL hyper-inflate the dollar, because it is not commodity based or linked to anything but our domestic manufacturing capability to trade commodities for commodities. This has been decimated. Services are useful, but services, just like manufacturing, can be done much more cheaply by the 3rd world. In short, no. You are just wrong dude. The dollars value is not “What people think the dollar is worth” that is an extremely surface level understanding of economics.
>>540796657You think i'm wrong, yet billions disagree.Hard to take you, and the others in this thread claiming this idea seriously.Money has value because people believe it has value, more people believe that it does, than it doesn't. Whats my proof? The fact that USD is still actively, as of this exact moment being used in trade. You can't argue against this point unless you're delusional.
>>540783968Not soon enough
>>540784590Whites have been run out of blue collar industries because illegals are cheaper. It's an utter myth that Whites won't do those jobs because they would and do a better job and wouldn't stink up the place while doing it but nobody's going to hire them, pay a decent wage and benefits when they can just contract the work out for peanuts to some shitskin that's going to pay his crew of subhumans a wage that nobody could live on.Even if you wanted to take that job the shitskins practice such nepotism that there's no way they're hiring you. After the manager fired one of his own to hire his cousin you think he's going to hire aWhite person.Don't believe just go to home depot and try to be a day laborer. The beaners will beat the shit out of you.
>>540796288> China definitely can't become a super power at this rate.They already are in the old world in various regions. It’s a great power world now. The only question really is how much of a great power can the U.S. remain? Globohomo seems like it thinks it can turtle back into the western hemisphere and just do Monroe doctrine power projection stuff. It’s pretty obvious it’s already been BTFO from the old world in myriad ways. There’s an argument that could perhaps be a successful strategy. Will the hundreds of millions of Latinos who are now the population go along with that idea, especially long term? I’m not sure. Like I said, if I had to actually put money on it I’d bet on Balkanization.
>>540796718Things have value because people believe they do, it doesn't explain shit though, it doesn't explain why people think it has value which the anon you replied to you explained, and it's just tautological. Just because USD isn't immediately collapsing doesn't mean it isn't going gradually lost it's value.
>>540796475>manifest destiny that claims a specific people have a god given right and claim to specific land isn’t jewish in provenance Moishe. I actually don’t dislike all you guys, but come on. This is insulting to the intelligence. Manifest Destiny is jewish through and through, you have a religion built around the same concepts. You guys in Tel Aviv need to be doing some outreach and some performative virtue signaling. Get employers here in the U.S. to drop the anti-White male DEI shit. Something. If you can force all of them to make kosher food and do other special stuff for a supposedly tiny minority, you can pull it off. I don’t think you actually can appreciate how bad it is from afar.
>>540783968I mean this isnt really good news specially if the crash is sudden.People are daft in the head and dont realise how connected the world economy is, all of us will be immesurably fucked if/when the US falls unless someone of equal power can immediately fill their void quickly which realistically will not happen.Keeping a balanced planet is crucial for world economy, even a few wars fucks it up let alone the fall of the biggest empire on the planet.
>>540783968the us has a ton of inertia behind it, we'll see if trump destroying the world economy is enough of a shock >>540784233I think within the decade is a bit too optimistic, but I highly doubt the US as we know it today will exist in 25 years. either total collapse into a warlord era/years of lead/troubles type thing, or outright explicit military autocracy to try and "put the foreigners in their place"
>>540784432trump is the living breathing id incarnate of the american people as a wholemaybe us younger people can manage to be less horrible, but as long as boomers maintain a stranglehold on politics its going to be trumpism forever
>>540796737The symptoms of capitalism
>>540796718> Money has value because people believe it has valueBillions of people in the areas and economies that are actually growing see less of a need for dollars with each passing day. You’re trying to tell us not to care because of how things are today. That’s a worthless metric.How things will be tomorrow, based on what people want and need to do, is what intelligent people evaluate. You’re a long way for plebbit. We will casually ignore your attempts to tell us everything is fine because of a snapshot in time of current year.
>>540797026>Keeping a balanced planet is crucial for world economy, even a few wars fucks it up let alone the fall of the biggest empire on the planetI agree with everything you said. But the biggest empire on our planet started this useless war in attempt to postpone the end of israel. What can we do now under these circumstances for the best of mankind?
>>540797026>People are daft in the head and dont realise how connected the world economy isI've been saying for a while we're approaching the late digital age collapse. we have such a delicately balanced and rigid global system that any shocks, other than the most minor, will shatter everything and once one piece goes everything else does because its a giant spiderweb of dependencies
>>540797026> all of us will be immesurably fucked if/when the US falls unless someone of equal power can immediately fill their void quickly which realistically will not happen.That might be true but none of us care here because no one can start or have lives as it is anyway.
>>540797290>What can we do now under these circumstances for the best of mankind?Honestly we cant do shit, like I said either someone of equal power assumes their role or we all basically stay fucked.
>>540797079> the us has a ton of inertia behind it, we'll see if trump destroying the world economy is enough of a shock>globohomo jew lefty shill wants us to think these issues started with TrumpLmfao. You guys are so awful. Never change
>>54079702699% of the world is already in deep deeeeeep shit muh srpski mrpski dude, what are you talking about? Who cares about some Californian (or french), blue-haired, race-traitor whore?
welcome to the jungle amigos>watching usa become nubrazil like
>>540797315Based. Accelerate
>>540797315>>540797364Yep the world is fucked and unfucking it will be extremely hard.Ideally every nation on the planet will magically change into the same government and laws and economy, otherwise it's always gonna be up and down
>>540797175another trvke the average american will never acceptwhat we're seeing isn't novel or unexpected. its the natural result of capitalism doing its own internal logic, something predicted by marxists well over 100 years ago. its not something you can "fix" or "reform" out of. it'd be like arguing lions hunting gazelles is just something you need to train the lions to stop doing and that the right regulations will keep the gazelles safe forever. that's the nature of lions to hunt and kill, either they exist and gazelles get hunted or they don't exist and the gazelles are safe
>>540797424>recognizing that trump is finally pushing the boulder off the cliff means you think he put it there to begin withkys migger
>>540797468>Welcome to the jungle, punk>Take a look around>its favela bro, fuckin up your town
>>540797445I dont care about some californian blue haired retard but I do care how its gonna fuck me up.If you think we are fucked now, imagine not having food or electricity or god knows what else if the world economy implodes.
>>540797468Hahahahha i love u angolan favela gypysiesAaaaiiiii aaiiiii
>>540796971Expansionism isn't a Jewish only concept just because Jews abuse it
>>540796718>”Money has value because people believe it has value”That’s not why the dollar has value. Subjective value is not the only form of value.Even our fiat currency is backed by what I just told you. Why do they believe the dollar has value? The dollar is not pure fiat Monopoly money or slopcoins like you are suggesting, it is backed by the petrodollar because every country must hold dollars to trade oil or get bombed. This entire arrangement allows them to control inflation domestically while issuing bonds abroad for real commodities from countries that want the dollar to use as a real store of value because it can be traded for x amount of petroleum which the whole world needs
>>540797493It was unironically propped up for decades on the back of the destruction of the White American population and communities and their wealth and blood. Other nations developed off the geopolitical economic infrastructure we were the ones who originally established. They didn’t care enough about stability to not do that to us. Our own globohomo jew government sold our economy out to the Chinks with Henry Kissinger and that still wasn’t good enough. The chinks definitely have their share of the blame. Either way it isn’t our problem anymore.
>>540797645I didn’t say expansionism did I, moishe? I said a religion and culture based around a religious claim to a specific plot of land. That is quite jewish in nature, indeed. Even Joseph fucking Smith in the 1820’s got the message.
>>540783968Around the time most of us die probablyGet real, it isn’t happening soon. They’re planning to transfer some of the wealth back when gooners die so people calm down, this will be done via the progressives, Trump was the last gasp of boomerdom
>>540783968years of Chyna will collapse now we move on to years of Murica will collapse
>>540797591We literally survived centuries in the Balkans, Rumelia and Anatolia. This is nothing new for u and me. Just sit back and let them cook..
>>540797787That's all Manifest Destiny was. Nothing I say will convince you so why even bother replying back to you?
>>540797568is that a song by Chitãozinho e Xororó? (good luck trying to pronounce that lmao)if not i don't know it
>>540797794> They’re planning to transfer some of the wealth back when gooners die so people calm down, this will be done via the progressives>two more weeks goyim calm down. Just vote for White man hating leftists more, that’ll do the trick Lmfao
>>540797854> That's all Manifest Destiny was.Exactly. A religiously justified policy of expansionism and exclusion in a specific region. It’s extremely hebraic, the entire world knows it and agrees moishe. Thanks for admitting it though
>>540797866No it’s actually that Brazilian Barbatuques group
>>540798029i was just being stupid before. but holy shit dude you brought back some memories. i haven't heard their stuff since i was a kid. thanks
>>540784621America, like Russia, was perfectly content to be entirely isolated from the rest of the world for centuries. We'll have little trouble returning there.
>>540797495Anyone who still believes in Capitalism or Marxism are fools at this point. It's pretty obvious that dogmatically sticking to one economic system at all times won't work
>1pbtid OP>141 of 260 posts/replies memeflagsorganic smell
>>540798708It's more the fact that international finance (Jews) as made a web of dependency, so that when one big player goes down, we all will.
>>540798769Based nazi
>>540783968All of us will be long dead when it does.
This is still the Republic. Trump is Sulla.
>>540799076You are right about it still being the Republic, but Trump isn't Sulla. Trump is one of those nameless consuls who accomplished nothing and didn't have the balls to directly seize power or do anything about massive corruption but still talked big game.
>>540798834The money will collapse, sure. Americans who remember how to be self-reliant will be fine.
>>540799076lol nah he's Nero through and through. same type of personality.
>>540783968Who is to say this shit couldn't keep limping on for another 250 years? At the very least looking at the disappointing democratic primary results this will continue on at least another 10 years. Born to late to explore the Earth, born too early to explore the stars, just in time to have everything taken grom you by cynical misanthropic pedophiles.
>>540783968>So when will this shithole collapsewhen the eagle burns.
>>540784651>Do you even know what would happen to mexico if the usa collapsed?Most drug cartels cease to function without being propped by the CIA
>>540797701You need to go back to school
>>540783968All memeflaggots are jews.No exceptions.
>>540783968Once the democrats (also known as the muslim party) come back into power.
>>540784083Based>>540793487Gay
Just how much of a boomer faggot do you have to be to still believe in commie scare?
>>540802987A jew legit wrote this message.
>>540803091An ESL Jew at that
