How do you "Save" people without invoking Jesus Christ?Does our country still want to "Save" people? If so, who? I've been screaming at the top of my lungs to get saved by Japan, and they sadly responded with church pictures and my japanese sensei in college literally told me to go to church.This is fucking bullshit.
that's a pedophile religion that created niggers that kill theirselves because all they were taught is to constantly lie, and werent told it would ruin their lives for doing so
If your Japanese Sensei is telling you to stop Weebing then it's time to stop Weebing...
>>540796935But our country still has many people suffering that need to be saved.It's just the common tactics and method to "save" people, is to force them to accept a book and surrender all their freedoms to said book.Christians are even told thinking can be demons. It's cancer.We need to save people properly, without tying their fates to a book. I have a way to do so.
>>540796825>Save6 finger Jesus gonna save yo day, nigga!
>>540797004https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM
>>540797076i will deny christ even in death.>>540797095you don't know me.
>>540797163I know Shintoism and also (You) well enough that you have an unhealthy idealised view of Japan that doesn't correspond to Shinto practice or belief... Please grow up and can that "You don't know me" emo shit!
>>540797391>you have an unhealthy idealised view of Japan that doesn't correspond to Shinto practice or belieflmao. my brand of Shinto is literally the Empire of Japan version of Shinto, where the Emperor is a god. It's the exact version of Shinto America tried to destroy, but failed.We might not get a Shogunate ever again, but we will get the Emperor back in power, one way or another.I want to be saved by Japan. Not by christians. That's just asking for Westerners to save me. And if their idea of "saving" is to force me to accept a book, I refuse. Even in death.
>>540797528Shintoism doesn't actually deny Christ, it preceded Christianity in Japan but the belief system is open to the concept. Study the Eurasian equivalent of Shinto called Čimarii Jüla and understand such beliefs are seldom exclusionary.
>>540797839>Shintoism doesn't actually deny ChristThe Three Sacred Treasures are proof of the divine, and it comes 600 years before Christ.The mirror, the sword, the jewel.These treasures are SO important to the Japanese that the Emperor of Japan himself is quoted as saying the treasures caused him to make the declaration that renunciated divinity. He forsake his divine right to protect the three treasures. Noble, right?Christians would destroy the treasures if given the chance.
>>540796825smearing pork fat on the munition usually
>>540796825did you truly repent of your own ways and used the door, Jesus Christ?Christ comes first, then you enter the Church (which is not a denomination).and no, nobody can be saved without Jesus Christ.
>>540797964Wouldn't the logical conclusion be Kamiism in which an eternal Kami is ever present? Neither the Three Sacred Treasures or Christianity should be destroyed in any case.
>>540797528so youre just a child of satan. got it.
>>540798220oh yeah and how does Christianity explain the Amaterasu Rock Cave story?They try to dress up that Ame no Uzume no Mikoto made sexual gestures such as pulling out her breasts and pulling down her skirt, to lure Amaterasu Omikami out of the cave.And this actually happened because we have that exact mirror.Christianity currently does not want Japanese lust. It thinks sexual content in Japan is demons. Explain how someone can be christian and also shinto without forsaking Ame no Uzume no MikotoShinto is simply not compatible with Christianity in Modern Japan, which still uses customs from thousands of years ago.
>>540798309Sex is for procreation but in both the Bible and the Amaterasu Rock Cave Story it's also a weapon as when Salome seduced her own father King Herod into killing John the Baptist or when Delilah seduced Samson into telling his secret.
>>540798227>so youre just a child of satan. got it.lol, no. i'm a minion of Great King Enma and will become Oni in the afterlife at Meido before I reincarnate.i want to see the legendary Sanzu River with my own eyes.
nobody is coming to save us, so either get organized or get religious, I guess (not mutually exclusive)
>>540796825kys namefag niggersage
>>540798754>Ame no Uzume no Mikoto seduced Amaterasu Omikami into freeing her from the cavei mean yeah that's what happened. the problem is Christianity doesn't want that in Modern Japan. Modern Japan clearly -does-, or else we wouldn't have had the Rapelay controversey back in the day.Japan is obsessed with sex and masturbation both. If Christ is trying to "Free" them from that, I will stand in opposition. In union, with Japan.The fallout of the Unification Church was just the beginning. I think we're going to see an acutal japanese resistance to Christianity, unlike what we've seen before in japanese history.
how can you be a "chiristian" and a "/pol/cel" at the same time. Surely being a christian involves living according to the teachings of Christ.
>>540798760I m getting white hairs and someone has to be punished for that.
>>540796825A secular Jesus not the new age Luciferian type but the ultimate believer in Christ.
>>540798986You're missing the forest for the trees. The real answer is don't compromise yourself over sex. That's one thing I truly believe, not having sex at the same time is preventing procreation so that isn't good either. I think your Sensei is trying to stop you having a completely flawed absolutist concept of spirituality and arguably everything else after, it isn't your favourite comic book.
>>540799252>The real answer is don't compromise yourself over sexyou couldn't be more wrong on this point.Japan LOVES masturbation. It's not a compromise. People love their fictional waifus to such a degree that some Japanese people actually MARRIED IRL their videogame waifus.Do you remember Love Plus and everything it did to japanese culture? Should these people be "saved"?>"Look, Christ cares about this one specific issue. You have to ignore it."We will not concede on Japanese sex.I am, in all regards, a Tendai Buddhist and Japanese Shinto follower. I just decided to gamble my entire fate, future, and dreams on Japan. That one specific issue you are trying to dismiss will be the one specific issue that will change everything.
>>540796825What the fuck are you talking about retard? Christians should be put down legally by medical assault squads
>>540799425These people should actually touch grass and procreate. You will speedrun into unnecessary trouble with a completely careless attitude towards sexual activity, actually think about this.
>>540799462Christians want to save people. We also want to save people. Ever watched The Matrix? We used to help others free themselves from the System. Think about the red pill back in the day before it spiraled in culture to what it is seen as now by modern America.The problem is Christianity has hijacked the issue and wants all "saving" to be Christian in nature.i quote BlazBlue on this point, pic related.>>540799588>These people should actually touch grass and procreatedo you understand "happiness"? Modern Japan is struggling to maintain "happiness".The procreation struggle right now is people are falling in love with Japanese idols, so, uhh, until -that- issue gets resolved, we'll never have an answer on what kind of society and culture Japan will evolve into.
>>540799752Demographics is collective destiny.
>>540800109i'm going to quote a japanese song for you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyM-uC1qM2ELibration Crisis. I doubt you would have a problem understanding Japanese if you are Shinto also, but i'm going to use a translation to make my points.https://www.animelyrics.com/jpop/fripside/libcri.htm>I can't believe, can you believe?>As time playfully passes, the only thing unknown to me>is still the answer to the question "What is right?".Think about what the singer is going through mentally, and question "Why isn't she seeking Christ"?KOTOKO recently released a new album called "The bible 2". It's quite clear that Japan is trying to carve a way forward outside of Christ.I also love a Japanese Idol, well, actually, I love the entire band, fripSide is based.I'm starting to find ways to connect with the Japanese, and i won't invoke the "Dark Side" of communication to try to coerce them into accepting the christian lie.
>>540800436https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurozumiky%C5%8D
>>540801046okay, so there's a version of Shinto where Amaterasu is God. Who is the son of god? Oh right, the emperor of japan.it's not Jesus Christ. I don't subscribe to this version of Shinto. I believe the version that honors Izanagi-no-Mikoto as the creator god that he is. He gives birth to 50,000 souls every day, and I want in.
>>540796825A college professor's job isn't to save your soul. That's the job of religion, at least as far as I can see in Japanese buddhism and Christianity.Go to a Buddhist temple instead. Specifically go to a pure land (浄土宗/浄土真宗) temple if you really want a purely external entity to grant you their grace, or to some other preferred denomination. I think you, as a famous namefag, have expressed quite a lot of interest in Shintoism, so I recommend you consider temples with a lot of historical syncretism with Shinto, even if the emperor illegalized it in the Meiji restoration. Tendai and Shingon have a lot of syncretic history, more than any other, and the only one that seems to have always denied metaphysical cohabitation with Shinto is Nichiren denominations (dunno about soka gakkai, but you are gay if you pick that shit) so stay away from Nichiren. Tendai has a more fluid interpretation of the metaphysical cohabitation with Shinto, and is more of a generalist in Buddhism, and Shingon has a more rigid and doctrinal explanation for the metaphysical cohabitation, with all of existence, including all Kami, being manifestations of Dainichi Nyorai, and as a denomination is very esoteric and may take initiations, scholarly and metaphysical understanding and faith in the rituals.
>>540801588The meiji restoration was bullshit. Don't even get me started on that. My professors in University taught me very well what this "restoration" did to the Kabuki plays in particular.i also have a buddhist temple. it's in america, and yes, it's tendai buddhist, which allows Shinto faith.
>>540801252I'll be honest, I am Qojist. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Yukaghir/qoj-
>>540796825Read Isaiah cuz it means God is Salvation.
>>540801715I'd argue that the shogunate was the real fuckup and the Meiji restoration something of an inevitable result of closing off from the world
>>540801715I admittedly don't know that much about Tendai itself, more so about what sprouted from it, as Shingon is my favored denomination, so I can't tell you much about it, how it sees metaphysics beyond general Mahayana Buddhism, which all significant japanese strains share.I do have a different view of the Meiji restoration, even if many of the attitudes from the emperor did upset me, such as the separation of Shinto and Buddhism and later persecution of Buddhism, but it had many necessary and positive aspects and accomplishments, like the colonization and annexation of Hokkaido and Ryūkyū, victory over Russia, creation of the imperial universities that hold prestige to this day, investment into education, effective birth of most recognized japanese literature and the rapid industrialization of Japan. Even if it might have leaned a bit too much into sometimes antiquated and mistaken western political and military doctrines that caused problems in the Shows period, it represented a powerful desire to be on par with the logistically superior western rivals and was, in my view, truly great.
>>540802628https://www.britannica.com/art/Japanese-performing-arts/Meiji-periodthey punished Kabuki actors and did all sorts of stuff.The people pushing the meiji restoration were democrat-supporting kikes that felt emboldened by the treaty of kanagawa -- and Perry.My political opinion is that Japan needs to pull christianity out of Japan by the roots. Eliminate the treaty of kanagawa. That document is the first OFFICIAL japanese document that says Jesus Christ in it.
>>540802628I personally think the shogunate was also great. There was no true "fuck up" in my view. The systems simply weren't perfect, as no system is. No one wins always and forever in geopolitics. It simply did what it was meant to do, and it was great, and it died with the grace and bravery demonstrated by the Shinsengumi, who truly embodied the samurai ideal that even actual samurai were forgetting after such long peace and isolation.
>>540802812i'll look into Shingon. thanks. i can't go to Japanese shrines yet, so my Shinto side is sadly restricted to America.It's a shame what happened to Tsubaki Grand Shrine here.
>>540802966Were Japan not unified by the shogunate, the bushido ideal would not necessarily have died. The samurai lost their purpose in peace
>>540802812>>540803024oh yeah and here's some info on tendai that i lovehttps://www.tendai.or.jp/qa/15.htmlI can access Meido through Tendai. Sometimes I chant "Amitabha, Amitabha, Amitabha" to get into his pure land. But I wouldn't call myself pure land buddhist. Meido is what i'm after.I need to find a way to get 6 mon. Send help.
>>540803183Thanks, I'll check it then
>>540796825Just lift heavy things, drink a lot of water, and don't gorge yourself on sugar most days of the week and you've already put yourself ahead of like 80% of the entire human population, including people who say they have been saved by christ.
>>540796825Saving them from what?
>>540803285from Death. usually people close to death that don't want to accept death want help.i attempted suicide 3 times. believe me i've been there myself. but i found the light, and for me, actually, it was the darkness that saved me, not the light.very cool.
>>540803443We're all going to die, you silly spastic
>>540796825enslave them to jews, and if you dont enslave them to jews, you end up enslaving them to the masons and every other demonic power out there, which isn't really saving them.
>>540796935he's talking about christianity not islamic judaism (judaismlite)
>>540796825>Namefag>4chan pass>2001 memeNigger
>>540803480>We're all going to dieDeath means many things. For me, what caused my encounter with "Death" was the whole "sacrifice your future to make this wish come true", so i dropped out of college, desperately trying to solve Bloodborne.i had a future to japan all lined up for me, but i hit that tripmine right before the big finish. I should've just went with Liberal Arts then i might have been able to get my bachelor's degree even with my impacted mind.We as a society generally try to save people from Death. the problem is the church tries to convert those people into book worshippers. I don't side with it.
>>540803443>i attempted suicide 3 timesFake and gay nigger, attention seeking waste of space. There are plenty of fool-proof, low to no cost methods with relatively low suffering. If you really 'attempt suicide' and fail, it better be jumping from 15 stories and miraculously surviving. Remember, emo faggots, down the road and not across the street.
>>540803756i chugged half a bottle of nyquil and somehow survived. i almost died in the hospital, i could feel it, but i was clinging to life the entire time clenching my muscles and refusing to fall asleep. i was screaming in pain and agony but the security guard didn't give a fuck, even when i shouted "I'M GOING TO DIE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU" to his face.But, I survived. The problem would repeat endlessly unless I found a solution to the core problem causing me to want to commit suicide. And I found that solution. Many people don't find theirs.
>>540796825
>>540803443I've went through moments when I doubted the value of my existence in relation to the pain and suffering, dreaded the immutable impacts I had, and still have, for my sustenance, doubted the value of my senses' observations, and clarity and detested my perceived powerlessness, lack of culpability and spiritual isolation, but I can confidently say that Mahayana and Vajrayana (esoteric) aspects of Shingon gave me a different perspective and tranquilized me each on their own ways to and end where all these previous worries either vanished or became immensely more manageable. The metaphysical rigor, combination of own power (jiriki) and other power (tariki), understanding of all perceived phenomena and legacy are all aspects I deeply appreciate. I can, from the bottom of my heart, say that I feel saved by the tradition.Then again, it was all very personal and many other denominations have different focuses, paths and points of overlap, and I do think they're all valuable and legitimate. (except soka gakkai. You are gay if you pick that shit.)
Save from what?
>>540804521I looked into shingon, and my answer is i'm fine with Tendai Buddhism.>>540805616see>>540803443
>>540796825You don't, you let the nordgroid, goymanics and judeo-anglos like muttmericans die and boil in hell, these slaves are not worth of anything, lacks values/virtue and any redeemiing quality
>>540797839Shintoism is jeet garbage, but nice try kikejeet living on british soil
>>540797528What you are talking about, retarded muttangutan ? kys already and stop worshipping gook pedos as salvation
>>540805863>What you are talking aboutState Shinto (Kokka Shintō)read it and seethe
>>540805820Shinto's also venerate George Washington as a lesser deity. Some Hawaiians too.I dont even believe GWASHINGTON was ever a real person.I believe he was inserted into history
>>540796825I'm starting a new religion I can save you but you have to fully trust me and do everything I say, I'm the messiah. You in? Btw you need to also bring in 2 females into the religion and stay celibate. Can you do that? You will be saved
It’s sooo beautiful to watch, took 2k years but we’re alive now to see it expiring.And aren’t chrischans lashing out?The more precarious the faith, the more furious its defense. They call it conviction, but often one hears something else beneath it: fear. A secure faith does not need to shriek. It is the wounded idol that demands the loudest worship.A few years back it was Islam that was mostly disliked and criticised. Now the criticism turned inward towards white’s current religion. And it is indefensible as you can’t really work around the core figure of chrischanity, that egomaniacal piece of shit.
God washed me white as snow
>>540796825>This is fucking bullshit.
>>540796825Make them anti-semitic
This is now an anti-chrischan thread. By reading and participating here, you’re confirming that you shit in jesus’s mouth and wipe your ass with the new testament .
>>540796825https://youtu.be/7w1bEfXqo-A
>>540805774But there needs to be death, the old must make room for the young. Like an old pacific salmon I am mentally ready to go and almost look forward to it. Life stinks when it goes on too long.
>>540796825I have no idea what OP is talking about. Save from what?
>>540809406I do. Fuck Yeshua
>>540809706That’s the spirit!
