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What would the victory of England, oh, sorry, sorry, UKraine, over Russia mean for the world?
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>>540817801
Might reflect on their decisions to do trade with China, if they think the West is collapsing. Or undefeated.
No one will respect Russia more of they win though. I don't imagine.
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>>540817878
international relations are not built on respect, they're built on money and resources
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>>540817801
It couldn’t happen, but if it did Russia would have nato forces a short walk away from Moscow and it would change how they negotiate over oil and international politics
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>>540817975
You seem to have misunderstood the question. Victory means no independent Russia anymore.
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>>540817801
>england and the british royal family secretly rule the world
Least mentally ill vatnigger.
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>>540818401
>secretly
And the Sun secretly rises each morning.
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>>540818401
the UK obviously has major butthurt over Russia
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>>540818351
How do you see that happening?
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>>540817801
https://youtu.be/7w1bEfXqo-A
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>>540817801
It would signify the victory of evil over good and give America more leverage to abduct young slavic girls into jewish sex slavery.
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>>540817801
from a purely Realism perspective in geopolitics and power dynamics (minus ideas that international capital/businessmen are responsible for the war):

>The political power, and power projection Western European nations used to enjoy for many centuries (in or outside of EU framework) is rapidly declining, to the point that even the US starts seeing Europe as an expensive liability, rather than a strategic asset worth controlling.
>School of Realism (traditional pre-USSR collapse schools) - always believed that Empires never collapse peacefully. Any political actor that had enjoyed significant power for a century or more - will always try to inflict maximum pain to his foes before he dies himself. That is why school of Realism always believed that Empires collapse through wars. It is not the war that causes the collapse, but rather the collapse that causes the war. USSR however made a big poopoo in this school of thought, by collapsing peacefully in 1991. However, whether this is to be treated as an anomaly, a new rule of thumb, or a misunderstanding - academics have no agreement.
>Russia losing the war in Ukraine is very unlikely, because the stakes and risks aren't equal. Russia is fighting a real war on its borders with a nation it considers to be integral to its national identity, culture, history, but more so to its strategic security. While the nations that actively support Ukraine are not willing to pay the cost of bodybags to achieve Ukraine's victory. So the escalation ladder dynamic is fairly obvious here: Russia can escalate far more than the west can afford to meet. But this will take some time to manifest.
>The more likely fear (again, if we go by Realist thought) that the EU holds - is that Ukraine's defeat would bring Russia closer to restoring its 18th-19th century power dynamic vs. Europe.



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