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Was the Vietnam war meaningful at all? Did all those young american me die for nothing? I'd like to know this board's perspective. drop some trvth nvkes.
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>>540821879
considering vietnam war was fought to stop the commies in there, it was a pointless war because vietnam is 100% communist now
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>>540821879
It was meaningful as far as demonstrating that the USA no longer had the stomach to really project power and do whatever it takes to win.
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>>540821879
Australia got involved with the Vietnam war.
Australian then received Vietnamese immigrants.

Imagine being in the military and not organising a coup of the entire government here.
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>>540821879
The point was killing boomers but it didn’t work well enough. We need another Vietnam war to draft boomers and get the rest of them
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>>540824002
After interacting with too many boomers, I think with the exception of few, that that should have all be conscripted to death.
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>>540822106
Vietnam makes our shoes for a slave wage now. We won. Go be a retarded brown monkey somewhere else.
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>>540824241
>We won
Sure thing Bubba
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>>540821879
The Vietnam War happened because of Jews.
Americans died for Israeli interests.
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Both the Gorea and Vietcong wars were just against China, through proxy. The wars were as much about seeing who had better equipment as who could control the vassal states

The wars ended with more Asians dead than whites so it likely did the job of checking them somewhat

Pic rel is a mini nuke cannon used to tempt NK
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>>540824296
Even at the time the whole idea was to stop the spread of communism to the wider region and communism never did expand beyond indochina. And yes vietnam today is like china. Commie in name only.
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>>540821879
>trvth nvkes
there is letter in Congress Library of Ho Chi Minh asking USA for help in getting freedom from French iirc
USA did shit
Ho Chi Minh turned to commies then and got help
this got America gov angry (while people not giving shit about)
era of military-industrial complex interests as Eisenhower warned, so war got pushed to sell new hardware like M-16 crap
no real winning strategy, just some intellectual mumbo jumbo tech fetishism of McNamara
Vietnamese meanwhile were right: 'You will kill ten of us, we will kill one of you, but in the end, you will tire of it first.'
they were fighting for freedom, already won with French, but got cucked by US in UN from uniting whole country
US propped corrupt South Vietnam
and as Muhammad Ali summarized this shitshow: “White people sending black people to make war on yellow people in order to defend the land they stole from the red people”
except America soil was never endangered by commies
instead left forever shitstain in shape of Agent Orange, unexploded ordnance, mines, war crimes hushed up by dissapearing papers from Pentagon
time when America fell into Satan embrace
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>>540824405
>The wars ended with more Asians dead than whites
except yellow people breed faster than white, so in balance damaged more whites (aside moral unrest it caused)
it was jewish plot to weaken Amalek
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>>540824241
you lost in vietnam but that is no reason to be rude
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>>540821879
>Vietnam war Was it completely pointless?

No, Vietnam War was to show the allies in NATO, and what ever the pacific version of NATO that the US would fight for them.

Problem was, the US military ( or any military ) always take the opportunity to miss the point of an operation.
----The war created a huge amount of intelligence data and reccon photos etc -- So the Pentagon and Washington created a huge DMV level of bureaucracy . None of which was aimed at winning the war , rather to win brownie points or arguments at UN meetings.
---Then it got to be the testing place of all these wizz bang weapons systems, again not to win the war but usually to milk as much money from the government, So if you a soldier did something cheaper and better that was winning ,, they would crush you and your idea, for the General Dynamics program.
--- The same social engineering bullshit we see today ( You will eat the bugs ) was done back then ( hearts and minds ) .

>>So the amount of deaths was about normal -- the greatest loss from Vietnam was that we learned nothing .
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>>540821879
>British and French empires fall apart after WW2
>USA steps in to fill the vacuum, become new global empire and try to maintain overseas power
>oppose USSR and Chinese power growth
>war generates profit for a bunch of American companies, selling weapons, vehicles, construction services
LBJ and his wife accused of owning shares in war profiteering companies and LBJ's campaign funded by them
There's a lot to look into. But yes, the men died for stupid bullshit as always.
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Vietnam War was engineered to be another forever-ongoing regional stalemate conflict theaters like the current North/South Korea and Palestine/Israel. When North Viets knew about it, so they tricked the U.S. left with the peace treaty and then went to conquer the South. Pol Pot genocide was another engineered event too, indirectly backed by China and U.S. (Zionist Globalists). Vietnam also saw this as another future border conflict so they even went there to clean it up too. You can see how Laos was a buffer country drawn by the Viets between Vietnam and Cambodia to prevent another border conflict. China was supposed to backstab the Viets during this time and would expect to capture Hanoi while the Viets' main force still resided in Cambodia. It would expect to make Vietnam surrender and the redraw the border between North and South Vietnam again. Somehow, Vietnam miraculously achieved to repel China and finally took control of Cambodia, it made the Zionists really mad that they had to trade embargo the Viets for the next 30 years, making them even poorer and isolated than a typical African country. Fun fact, when the Viets still owe Iraq in multi million dollar oil loan, Saddam Hussein chose to wipe the debts clean for them as a kind gesture.
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>>540821879
It has more to do with sending patriots far away, importing drugs, subverting the youth at home, destroying the family cell than anything else.
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Not at all. We got Rambo out of it
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>>540824241
They would have done that anyway, and if they wouldn’t was it worth 58,000 lives and billions of dollars?
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>>540821879
It wasn't actually a war, it was a counter offensive
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>>540824404
>The Vietnam War happened because of Jews.
>Americans died for Israeli interests
This.

President Kennedy was winding down America's involvement, but then Israel killed him and installed cryptokike LBJew - who immediately reversed JFK's directives and escalated the war.

So the Vietnam War killed 50,000+ Americans, over 2M Vietnamese, tore apart the social fabric of America as LBJew and the kikes were forcing racemixing and signing into law the kikes' Kalergi Plan, and the banking jews got rich from it all.
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Vietnam war was the US siren call to the rest of the world. Start a pointless war just because they could. Long history of US deep government orchestrating banana republics as vassal states with complete obedience to US. They did it in Iran in 1953, Guatemala in 1954, Cambodia in 1959, the Congo in 1960. And these are just to name a few. The USA's downfall could correlate with the rise of the CIA.
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>>540832702
>Vietnam war was the US siren call to the rest of the world. Start a pointless war just because they could
It was also the banking jews' requirement that the world remain perpetually at war.

A world without war is anathema to those who worship and profit from death.
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>>540821879
Yes, it teaches us communists are evil fucks so don't fall for their tricks again. There were legitimate reasons for the war to have happened due to post WWII international geopolitics and the French being post WWII wet noodles. The US completely broke the Vietcong forces with the Tet Offensive but the communist fuck Walter Cronkite lied that the US had lost the war. Support for the war evaporated and the US did a full pullback which and the communists realized "lying is OP". The Vietcong regrouped and slaughtered it's way through Vietnam basically became a puppet state of the USSR and then the USSR crumbled under it's own weight and that's how Vietnam became "independent". Vietnam could've been another modern day Japan/Korea success story but instead it's basically Thailand.
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It was a venue to sell arms and export dissidence, hence why we weren't allowed to actually invade the country and stop communism.
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>>540833451
you faggot nigger /k/ posters should be beaten to death

>another modern day Japan/Korea success story
these are two of the most absolutely culturally and economically buckshattered nations on planet earth, and south korea is on the permenent verge of instantaneous collapse 24/7 forever
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Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag
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>>540833597
>muh gommunism noble resistance fight
holy absolute fucking shit
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>>540833684
>Japan/Korea economy in shambles, 2 more weeks
>being like Thailand is better
Are you retarded?
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>>540821879
hanoi cheeseburger
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>>540833927
i never said being like thailand was better, i said south korea and japan are absolutely geo-politically kike-fucked nations, which they indisputably are, and south korea has been one imploding government from top-to-bottom for 3 decades now, with an absolutely devastated domestic culture of all time internal collapse, and japan is a literal economic vassal slave with absolutely not one ounce of their own personal sovereignty fucking 80 years later they still live by a humiliating 'constitution' the US wrote for them to keep them down (((legally))) forever
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>>540822106
>100% communist
There's literally a McDonald's in Hanoi:
https://en.vietnamplus.vn/mcdonalds-to-open-first-restaurant-in-hanoi-post120595.vnp
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>>540821879
It started from advisers only to full forced service.
It was going badly for the muttoids they never expected real resistance with modern weapons and they were scared that China would help north Vietnam just like they did in the corea war.
Mutts believed if they kill just enough of them then they would win while they HAD to count everyone,babies and children as Vietcong too to get the right numbers for their supervisors.
They weren't allowed to move further north because they were scared about China so they sind kill missions there and then quickly returned.
They needed as many murders as possible no matter if they were really Vietcong fighters or not.
It just had to look good at the mutt population back home that they were clearly winning.
They developed serious PTSD because some of the population actually fought back that's peak horror man.
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>>540833684
>>540833824
>>540834185
this boy is buck broken
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>>540821879
nah, it caused the snowball of distrust in the industrial military complex that lead to the massive in US ideologies today.
woo hoo!
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>>540834185
>implying communism isn't a Jew developed goy governance system
>Vietnam is still communist to this day
Do you even hear yourself?
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>>540822772
america never declared war on vietnam. we went over to simply support south vietnam
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>>540833451
>Walter Cronkite lied that the US had lost the war
not like you were winning it
>inb4 muh kill ratio
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>>540834347
>>540834953
i can smell the MIGGer seethe through the screen
you probably think ukraine is winning and Iran is losing, 100% guaranteed



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