Current climate change is real and it is caused entirely by humans burning fossil fuels which releases greenhouse gasses.Current climate change is not caused by the natural cycles of the Earth's climate which are caused by the changes in Earth's orbit around the Sun and the tilt of its axis (Milanković's cycles).If the current climate change were caused by the natural changes in the Earth's orbit or the increased energy output of the Sun we would see warming in all layers of the atmosphere but instead we only see warming in the bottom layer of the atmosphere where greenhouse gases are accumulating because they are denser than oxygen and nitrogen and the top layers of the atmosphere is experiencing cooling because bottom layers are trapping more heat.Since 1978. solar energy that is reaching Earth is constantly monitored by the sensors on satellites and they are not showing the increase of the solar energy that would be seen if Earth's orbit changed and it is closer to the Sun, Earth's axial tilt changed so areas closer to the poles are receiving more energy or Sun's energy output increased due to the star's aging.Climate change caused by the changes in Earth's orbit and tilt of its axis is slow and happens in the span of thousands of years which allows life to adapt but current climate change happened in the span of the last 100 years and it matches the increase of greenhouse gases released by humans.Humans release 35 to 40 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide annually through burning of the fossil fuels while natural sources like the volcanic eruptions release only 0.2 to 0.3 billion tonnes annually.Climate stability in the Holocene which started 11.700 years ago after the end of the ice age enabled humans to abandon the nomadic hunter gatherer way of life, develop agriculture and establish first cities and complex societies, end of this stable geological and climatological epoch could mean the end of human civilization.
>>540825371I wish rolling coal was legal in my cuck country
>>540825371Tell China and India to stop causing climate change then. You won't stop shit trying to convince the West about it since the West isn't causing it.
>>540825371No. Fool
>>540825371>Current climate change is realThe solution to this problem is almost here.
No it isn't. /Thread.
>>540825910This. >Caused by humansDepends on whether you see Chinese or Indians as humans, but, I get you're loot: we have to gatekeep China/India from energy because more energy doesn't mean they pollute less in their country, for some reason, unlike western/whiter nations.
>>540825371The solution to climate change is to depopulate india in 48 hours.
>>540825371Your whole post seems awfully like artificial intelligence made it up. I for one and pro climate change
>>540825371You're correct and you'll get a lot of replies from seething conservative retards who know they're wrong but don't like the implication that we need strict global emissions limits on all countries' industries to stop a disaster
>>540825910>You won't stop shit trying to convince the West about it since the West isn't causing it.Those Chinese factories are owned by western corporations. The Chinese at the least are pioneers in battery technology. Meanwhile America is banning EVs since the oil barons own Trump.
>>540826344Great, don't care. And neither does the Earth. China is the cause of the majority of emissions on the planet. Talk to them.
>>540825371Who gives a fuck material reality is a simulation
>>540826433Amerimutt hypocrisy is funny. China, a fucking third world shithole, is doing more to innovate renewables and battery storage than supposedly the greatest nation on Earth. You got dabbed on by the yellows Juan.
>>540825910If you look at historical cumulative emissions since the industrial revolution, Western nations bear a massive share of the responsibility for the CO2 currently trapped in the atmosphere.
>>540826344Foreign companies can't own a factory in China
>>540826223this
>>540825371>and it is caused entirely by humans(((humans))) made this scam, so you are Talmudicly right
>>540826304the co2 conjecture has never been provenyour models are all full of holes and break very shortly into the futurebecause they contain unscientific political things that cant be removed otherwise the money stops flowing
>>540825371I'd write a book about why you are a brainwashed retard, but I'll just leave this image.
>>540826851What do you guys make?Anything?
>>540825371So was the ice age cause by humans too?
>>540826851>>540826851>>540826923American emissions have declined by 20% since the 90s, and is the only country in the world to have had a decline.Unless you tell China and India to stop, nothing will change. It's their fault now.
>>540826851Bold claims, Mohammad.
>>540826344Okay then go yell at Trump and his billionaire buddies then, stop acting like ramen eating autists are the ones who own those factories. Fuck off.
>>540827115>the co2 conjecture has never been provenThis is creationist level cope, the infrared absorption spectrum of carbon dioxide is hard physical fact, in fact you can verify it yourself with a plastic bag and a phone camera.The models all underestimate the real magnitude of how fucked we are, that's not a good thing Cletus.
>>540827222If you read my entire post you would know that that ice age was caused by the changes in the Earth's orbit and axial tilt (Milanković cycles) but that those changes happen slowly in the span of tens of thousands of years while the current warming happened fast in the span of only a 100 years and that it corresponds to the rapid raise in the CO2 caused by humans burning fossil fuels.
>>540827220Per capita Sweden makes enough and currently competes with US in supplying NATO with weapons.>>540827365>>540827242Per capita US is still one of the biggest sinners. You can't remove Chinese industries without also killing the west.
Amerimutts doing the classic>we dindu nuffin, it's Chyyyna's fault
>>540827570>REEEE why aren't you taking responsibility for billionaires?!!Not gonna happen, it's not my fault there are factories in China and I'm not the one polluting. Suck it faggot.
>>540827716Every vote for orange pedo was a vote for the oil tycoon billionaires. 65 million Americans are guilty.
>>540827143Yes even tough carbon dioxide is only a small part of the atmosphere it is a potent greenhouse gas and even a tiny change to its concentration has a strong effect on the Earth's climate. About 30% of humanity's cumulative fossil-fuel and industrial CO2 emissions since the start of the Industrial Revolution were emitted in Europe.
>>540827636There's also the matter of cumulative emissions (picrel)
>>540827570>per capitaNow is this where you are consistent and advocate for the deportation of all non-whites from the west to reduce emissions? Or is this where you give up the game and hem and haw about how that won't fix it?
>>540827740But didn't trump fix that? Like now the uptake of EV's is increasing because diesel and petrol prices keep going up sven.
>>540827365You voted him and other republicans in so it is your responsibility.
>>540827115>because they contain unscientific political things that cant be removed otherwise the money stops flowingthis is fucking rich coming from someone taking the side of fossil fuel companies making trillions out of destroying the planetI'm not even a nature lover, this is about our ability to live on earth not saving the whales or some shit, in fact animals and plants will be fine, it's just human civ that's fucked.
>>540827740K but I didn't vote for him so now what? What other accusation do you have next?
>>540827815>let me tell you who you voted forTypical
>>540827787white people and nonwhite people in the west emit the same amountwhat we actually need are strict emission limits on all countries, which would crater the world economy, and which need to be enforced by powerful countries with nuclear weapons, which would cause a world war.
>>540825371Still like 10 degrees below earths normal average temperature. We got a long way to go, faggot.And if you’re so concerned about this, why don’t you start doing something about it -like limit the amount of brown people on the planet.
>>540827782America are the bad guts no matter how you spin it. Atleast China has the excuse of being the industry production nation of the world. America doesn't even have that. They just consooom lots of shit all the time.
>>540827787>b-but the niggersArguing with mutts is hopelessly pointless.
>>540825371more plants lead to less co2 or how was that? so just add more vegetation and we good ?!
Thanks ChatGPT, but not reading that shit
This seems very important.
>>540827927usa is just evil and satans nation. they're not even especially good at something, just look at their shit cardboard houses and their clown units like feet or barrel. they're very much like an aggressive and unhinged kid running around with a shotgun while everyone's scared
>>540827958do the maths on how many trees you need to absorb 40 gigatons of CO2 every year, it's about 3 continental USA sizes worth of forestsin the long run, sure, there will be more plants, like tens of thousands of years from now after humanity goes extinct the planet will probably be quite greenin the short term changing climate leads to droughts and plants don't do well with thathumanity kind of depends on crop plants growing as planned, don't know if you noticed
>>540828062So you're saying we should cut down more forests so gay society collapses? That sounds pretty easy.
>>540828051pussy
>>540827833not all animals and plants will be fine. For example those that live higher up on mountains etc. will lose their habitat. Also animals like woodland caribou and moose are under tremendous pressure from changes that come with a warming planet (white tailed deer moving north and carrying brain worm with them, which kills the caribou but not the deer, for example).
>>540828107you're living in a country that has a pre-industrial carrying capacity of about 100,000 people max, so I don't know where you think you'd be living after that happened
>>540827923Earth had no single normal temperature in its history. It was 10 degrees hotter millions of years ago but those changes took hundreds of thousands of years.The problem today isn't just the temperature itself it's the unprecedented speed of the warming. Ecosystems and human civilization including agriculture and cities developed entirely during a highly stable, cooler climate. Fast warming disrupts this infrastructure, leading to extreme weather, rising sea levels, and economic chaos long before the planet reaches its ancient thermal peaks.
>>540828175More money and power for the government will fix all of it i bet you think It all boils down to more power and money in government hands with you eco trash
>>5408253713% of Co2 release is from humanstiny compared to natural causes
>>540827886>whites and non-whites emit thesame amount.Exactly, so the best way to reduce emissions in the west is to remove non-whites as they do not belong there, and breed more than the whites. So, will you be consistent and advocate for the deportation of all non-whites? Or will you do as you are doing and prove the lie?
>>540825910India? They all ride motorcycles or walk everywhere.
>>540827954Expected. If climate change was real, the best way to deal with the problem would be deportations of foreigners, reshoring businesses, and strong tariffs. Those directly target the largest sources of pollution (migration from low pollution areas to high pollution areas, and international transit and shipping). Strangely, no climate change advocate, no matter how serious, actually attacks the problem.
>>540825371No fucking shit. Only the most retarded and illiterate (mainly Americans) argue against this.
>>540828401>If climate change was real, the best way to deal with the problem would be deportations of foreignersThat's hardly the best way to deal with it. Don't be such a disingenous nigger online.
>>540828210What you're doing is called an "appeal to consequence fallacy." Instead of doing that why doesn't the small government right wing come up with solutions to the problem that don't involve more government? Because it's easier for you -- for now -- to deny that there's a problem.
>>540828262>they do not belong thereThat's an aesthetic concern, nothing more. >So, will you be consistent and advocate for the deportation of all non-whitesYour aesthetic concerns mean nothing to me.I don't care where people live. We need to impose emission maxima on all countries. Under 5 tons CO2 per capita, max. That means reducing the industrial capacity of all Western countries by two-thirds unless they completely electrify and go to green and nuclear energy. People in poor countries will be unaffected by this.
>>540825371So just like that, we're dropping the ((cow farts)) narrative? What, it was too unpopular and wasn't a winning strategy?
>>540828428There's that uber leftist eurotrash indoctrination.You drank the Kool aid, congrats.
>>540828489>RREEEEEE WHY AREN'T YOU HATING AMERICA?!?!?!
>>540825371Based and inconvenient truth pilled.
>>540828062Then we should just genocide both Africa and Asia and then saturate both continents with plants and trees. Maybe South America too.
>>540828554Glad you admit Americans are the problem. The best solution would be nuking you fat wasteful shits to the stone age. BOOM FATMUTTS DEAD!
>>540828252source?natural emissions are part of a cycle and are absorbed. this is why people argue that increased emissions will lead to more plant growth.
>>540828524>we have to hurt ourselves to save the poors.Look up where the most polluting rivers are. None are in europe or the us.
>>540828530it was cow belches not farts, and that's methane not co2
>>540828252Before industrial revolution carbon cycle was in equilibrium. Natural sources released hundreds of billions of tons of CO2, but natural sinks (oceans,plants etc.) absorbed the exact same amount. The net change was zero.Humanity adds 3-4% on top of that cycle. Nature can only absorb half of our extra CO2 so the rest piles up every year. Because of this "tiny" additional 3% atmospheric CO2 has actually risen by 50% since the industrial revolution (280ppm to 420ppm+).
>>540828489It is. You'd see the most dramatic and lasting reduction in emissions. But its never on the table. Strange, that.
>>540827886That's not the point. What major, unprecedented change occurred in the last 100 years alongside the "climate change" of which you kvetch? It is the mass importation of non-Whites into White countries. Couple that with the fact that the vast majority of the areas from which non-Whites come is already a hotter climate, and we have reason to suspect their presence, not "greenhouse emissions", causes the climate change. The old theory that races became the way they are because if where they lived is retarded. The climate became the way it is in those areas because of the races that live there. That's the fact the communist anti-White agenda-pushers refuse to acknowledge.
>>540828615Actually, that's the opposite of the most efficient genocidal strategy to emissionsmin, which would be wiping out North America, Europe and East Asia. Africans and Indians hardly emit anything.
>>540828696No, this is.>>540828624
>>540828710Indians pollute like fucking crazy.Let me guess, you're not white
>>540828524So here is where you prove the lie. If climate change was as dangerous as you say it is, and that drastic measures need to be taken to reduce them, then you'd agree. This is the best way to reduce emissions in the now and in the future. But you won't advocate for it. Curious, that.Almost like climate change is just an excuse to hate whites
>>540828750They pollute locally with trash everywhere but their CO2 emissions are not on the scale of western countries.
>>540828710>>540828750Methane is a powerful greenhouse gas goy.
>>540828662It's almost like we've outsourced our industrial production out to poorer countries with worse environmental standards.Anyway, I don't care about polluting rivers. Global climate change is the only issue that should be on the table. I'd accept, say, 1000 Chernobyl disasters in exchange for halting emissions, so logically, we should be building a lot of nuclear reactors with zero safety standards or planning requirements.
>>540828749Incorrect. You just dont want to solve the problem.
>>540828710Doesn't matter, genocide Asia(except Japan) Africa and South America anyways, because they are inferior people and don't deserve to live. Even if they don't emit much, the trees we will plant in their continents should help with CO2, so it's a win-win.
>>540828810Do you think they report everything?
>>540828810Hey goy, how do you know that? Mr pajeet? When probably that shithole is so corrupt they don't record that shit for wypipo countries?
>>540825371Yes, but there are caveats to that. Indians and chinks are to blame too, not just westerners. Also coal is like 10x worse than oil/gas.
>>540828824Guess which country has the most nuke reactors?
>>540828824>we need 1000 chernobyls and other disasters for climate changeBut not, oddly, strong borders, deportations, and tariffs which would reduce thd problem much more dramatically, with much less suffering.
>>540828766No, you're a racist schizo and your claim makes zero logical sense. We can cut population growth, but that's not going to have an immediate impact, compared to strictly reducing emissions, which we can do quite fast, if painfully.
>>540828845>>540828833Why would America report truthful stats? In America people drive trucks, in India they drive bikes. Huge difference in CO2 emissions.
>>540828696>>540828699it's true that having fewer ppl in the highest per capita emissions countries would drive down emissions. I have used this as an argument against immigration. But emissions will increase in the third world overtime, and so yes, you would have to genocide everyone in the third world. are you really surprised that that is not an option on the table?
>>540828887>But not, oddly, strong borders, deportations, and tariffs which would reduce thd problem much more dramaticallyMore dramatically than nuking America and all the mutts polluting this world? Nope.
>>540825948you people are near infinitely servile, pathetic, stupid and contemptible
>>540828854And methane is 4x worse than carbon dioxide yet amerifats can’t stop throwing food waste in the dumpster and eating factory farmed beef
>>540828910>you're just a racist, if everyone in a country pollutes the same amount removing half of the people in that country won't dramatically reduce emissions.You're retarded, and haven't actually thought about this issue.
>>540828925This means that everyone in developed countries should be deported to poor countries. There's no "skin colour" term in the mathematical equation linking CO2 to atmospheric warming.Or we can force everyone in developed countries to cut emissions and industrial capacity which would have the same effect without a fuck ton of plane flights.
>>540828922There are wayy more people there.No meaningful environmental measures at all You just assume everyone in the us drives a semi.I like your stereotyping and your bigotry.A lot of the country drive electric or hybrid or small cars.You just believe anything negative you hear about us as confirmation bias for your hate
>>540828951China and india pollute more, and have for decades. You just hate white people.
>>540829007>forceTry it nigger.Try to force us.
>>540829007I said I've used it as an argument against new immigration, not as an argument to deport people. But obviously remigration is a major concern of this board, so you shouldn't be surprised that people also want it, and it is qualitatively different than "deporting" everyone, which makes no sense.
>>540829202>>540829190>China and india pollute moreNope.>>540827782>>540827636
>>540829007The plane flights will pollute less than each person removed will in one year. It's a one time cost to dramaticslly reduce current and future emissions, permanently. Regardless of what government gets in control in the future. Pair it with tarriffs to reduce international shipping (the other biggest polluter) and you've damn near solved the problem. But you don't consider it. Why?
>>540829433Wow, sourceless graphs.You want me to make one too?
>>540828965>you people are near infinitely servile, pathetic, stupid and contemptibleDidn't understand what I meant. Says something like that. Lmao.
>>540829433>per-capitaI'm not talking per capita. You also poo-poo'd dramatically reducing emissons by deporting foreigners from high per capita polluting nations, like the usa. It seems like you don't want to solve the problem, you just hate whites.
>>540829450Except it takes years to grow that way naturally.>where the people come from doesnt matter Tell me about the numbers of reported rapes in europe.Explain why the have skyrocketed over the last two decades.
>>540829478Let me turn it around on you. Why has the right been so stupid as to not use climate change to make these very arguments instead of denying that it's happening? The right has pretty much ceded the policy debate about climate change by choosing denial instead.
>>540825960>/threading his own post
>>540829577He's a brown "english" or a far far left self hating brit.
>>540829670Well, there's serious problems with the underlying data, and that's been common knowledge for decades. The other reason is the right-in-power hates white people too.
Insulation is so bad we use it in our refrigerators
>>540828530No we are not.Although carbon that cows release is part of the natural carbon circle ( plants that cows eat absorb carbon dioxide from air and turn it in to food) cows release it in the form of methane, methane is 30 times more powerful greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide but it mostly breaks down in to carbon dioxide and water after 12 years and returns to the carbon but during this 12 year period it is heating the planet. Since its lifetime in the atmosphere is only about 12 years but it has a strong warming potential reducing cattle production can have a significant impact on reducing global warming.
>>540829891Are you a vegetarian or vegan?
>>540828062I recognise that kind of spacing. go back there.
>>540829891This is all true, but reducing beef consumption in the USA is so anathema to the population it's not a good place to focus, I don't think.>>540829755I believe we should have a green nationalism that makes a lot of the arguments you've been making. but it depends on accepting that greenhouse gas emissions are causing warming.
>>540829932I am not but the price of meat should be increased so much so that people are able to afford to eat it only once per week or less like in the old days this would have a good impact by reducing methane emissions and a good impact on people's health by reducing red meat consumption.
>>540830102You should be fine with alwarming, more of canada would be useable.
>>540825371And? What do you want from me?People like you always want something.
>>540830102I'm all for environmentalism. The truth of the matter is current climate change thought has serious problems with the science, and climate change advocates refuse to talk about it.
>>540830120I love the casual authoritarianism of the eco left.>i believe it so the world has to do as i sayIt's like a petulant child demanding candy.
>>540827636This is disingenuous bullshit. If you are lobbying for change you need to target based on the political unit. The policy is decided per nation, so your activity needs to be prioritized based on a ranking of CO2 emissions per nation not per capita.China does not get a get out of jail pass just because they are magic communists, comrade.
>>540826344>Those Chinese factories are owned by western corporations.Communist China everybody
>>540830249It is amazing how the left ignores china.They eat dogs ffs.
>>540830258I want my igoyphone ultra mega edition POST HASTE!
>>540830188what's the biggest problem with the science in your opinion?>>540830152More of Canada would be useable for what? importing jeets to populate it? We also have other limitations, like the Canadian Shield (poor, shallow soil) which limits where we can farm, for example, even as the climate warms. There's also the shitty side, like more severe wildfires and the spreading north of ticks
>>540825371>If the current climate change were caused by the natural changes in the Earth's orbit or the increased energy output of the Sun we would see warming in all layers of the atmosphereBut how do you know that?
>>540830352A 4 year old chinese kid will churn it out in a factoryChina doesnt have labor laws and they can make that shit for pennies
>>540830374How much greenhouse gasses were emitted during your guy's massive wildfires?
>>540830486Not this time! Because of chip shortages apparently the new iphone isn't being shipped to all markets on release date now. Which makes me a very sad panda indeed.
>>540830374There's lots. You've got the general non-reproducibility crisis in science. Raw data is not available to all scientists, nor are the models currently used. The models have almost zero predictive power, and ignore obvious variables such as the goddamn sun. Then we've got issues with how the data is collected. For decades thermometers have been moved from natural unpopulated places to things like rooftops in cities and near airports and heat exhausts. We also know that the data is intentionally manipulated to fit the models and the models expectations. Then we've got confirmation that high ranking officials in the ipcc and noaa have been faking the data to fit with warmist expectations. These people have never been publically repudiated, their data has not been removed, and they weren't even removed from their positions. These reveals happened back when obama was president, and there is zero reason to believe the situation has gotten more accurate since.Climate change is a trillion dollar business, and instead of doing science, warmists are protecting their nesteggs.
>>540830522I would have to google it to find out. But my point wasn't about that, it was that the fires makes it difficult for northern communities as they have to evacuate or are even burned down. plus there's the smoke. Fires will only get worse as this century goes on.
>>540830667A government agency would never hype their own funding reason for more funding would they?
>>540825371Didn't read, just because of your post OP, I will take my golf 2 diesel out for a ride in FIRST gear only
>>540830739You banned the natives from their controlled burns.I know all about the smoke as i live in northern MI and got to enjoy it.
>>540830435Because Sun's energy is radiated from the top of the atmosphere to the surface, surface heats up and radiates this energy in the form of infra red back towards the space but since the amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases is increasing in the bottom layers of the atmosphere, bottom layers trap more heat so top layers are cooling because they are not receiving this energy.
>>540825371>the end of human civilization.Oh, definitely. We will be minorly inconvenienced, the next generation will be majorly inconvenienced, and then it all turns to shit.And it's all because of a handful of stupid people in powerful positions.
>>540830667a lot of what you said is false. models do take into effect the sun (picrel) and have been useful for predicting warming (I can't post more than one image, but I have images showing this also). As for placing of thermometers, the urban heat island effect is controlled for. but rather than get into that, the highest warming has been recorded in the arctic where there aren't such issues. also we see the other effects that we would expect from a warming world from melting icecaps, to melting alpine glaciers, to see level rise (inb4 there's no sea level rise; whole countries are being evacuated due to sea level rise. can't post pic though). So it seems clear that the planet is warming, and that it's not due to the sun. as for the influence of money on science, you say nothing about the influence of the oil and gas industries on government as well as on shaping debate. climate change is not a trillion dollar industry; it's definitely not a bigger industry than oil and gas.
Of course climate change is real. The climate has always changed.Look outside your window and note the lack of dinosaurs. Their absence is caused by climate change.Explain to me the climate change on Mars, which has also warmed by ≈0.1°C over the last twenty to thirty years despite the startling lack of SUVs.
>>540831048The rovers we sent somehow did that I bet lol.
>>540830797the natives were never control burning the boreal forest at any kind of scale because they never lived there in any large numbers and it's far to vast. there have always been fires in the boreal, it's just getting worse.
>>540830874There's also a ton of heat already in the earth. Hot enough to melt rock. The core of the earth could be heating up or moving hotter magma toward the edges for all we know.
>>540825371Damn you’re right, I guess white people have to go extinct now
>>540831048If that is true, 0.1C might be explained by the sun. the earth has warmed much more than that over the last few decades.
>>540831147>could beyeacould befuck you niggers are stupid here nowadaysin case youre still confused, yes, that is what drives all geologic and tectonic activity on earth. the molten core of our planet. and yes natural carbon emissions from things like volcanoes dwarf what all western cunts contribute collectively.the real problem is pollution, and it comes from the turdworld
>>540831325Look at the sheer amount of garbage in indian water ways.You know they are dumping oil and all other sorts of shit in there as well
>>540825371i disagree. not real. dismissed.
>>540831042>climate change is not a bigger industry than gasProfit margin wise? Absolutely false.>look at the graphsWhich rely upon the poisoned data that i already pointed out as a problem. If the heat island effect has truly been accounted for, why is the raw data not available? You are also trusting that people who are motivated monetarily and ideologically to have appropirately massaged the data.You also made no statement about the ipcc and noaa being caught faking the data for decades. >whole countries have been evacuated.Which entire countries have been completely abandoned due to being subsumed beneath the rising waters?
>>540831865well according to google oil and gas combined has more profit than there is international climate funding. It's close, but oil and gas is more.you're wrong about the raw data. many organizations provide raw data including berkeley earth and NOAA. I don't know anything about faking the data, but the IPCC doesn't even measure or release temperature datasets, so I think you're mistaken. haven't been completely subsumed, but the process is beginning. picrel
>>540825371I WANT THAT TRUCK, JUST I CAN MAKE THE LEFTIES SEETHE AND GO CRAZYHORVATSKY BEACH, HERE I COMEGONNA FUCK SOME CROAT WHORES, TOO
>>540825371>humans releaseChina** India** >>540826304yes global not in Europa you absolute retard, my nation only does 0.02% of co2 on earth. Shitskins need to modernize not us lmfao
>>540832403> a plan being madeIs not the same thing as "is">gas and oil is only slightly more than climate change.And climate change has higher margins.>the raw data is availableThis is false. The direct temperature readings from the thermometers, and historical raw data is not available>i don't know about the data fakeryThis is obvious. Go look it up. Noaa data has been faked for decades, by the people who are prominent ipcc members.It comes down to the raw data is unreliable, thus all conclusions drawn from it are unreliable. This is without mentioning the general sorry state of science in general.This combined with no one who advocates for it advocating for sensible, sane, and easy to implement solutions, it is much more likely the whole thing is a hoax. Hell, there's been a climate hoax running continusly since before living memory.
