The obsessive threads about violence, cancer, civilizational collapse, structural weakness of buildings and the malicious intent of everyone and everything are not the expressions of dispassionate analysts. They are the compulsive threat scanning of a nervous system stuck in hypervigilance. No matter how much content is consumed, how strong your home, how quick your aim, the relief never comes. This isn't a personality characteristic or an ideology but a trauma response.The defining arousal symptom of PTSD is the state of constant scanning for hidden danger, real and imagined to the point of exhaustion. With it comes irritability, rage and sleep disruption. Somebody with a calm nervous system does not need to catalogue every possible way they could die and work to prevent it. Consider the almost comical threads about a house that "cant be kicked through" fixating on US stick construction vs European masonry. They are the expression of a dysregulated amygdala that should be resting but is instead scanning for threats. This is a somatic metaphor for vulnerability projected onto home design. Consider that anonymous high arousal spaces like this one generate continuous novelty, unresolved danger, an in group vs an out group, and content designed to spike emotion rather than resolve it.
>>540838711I farted and some shit squirted out
>>540838711KILL YOURSELF, NIGGER
>>540838822The "you are here forever" meme is the definition of a trauma bond. Congratulations.
So a bond forms via reinforcement. The cycles of distress thread to thread followed by moments of relief, when /pol wins, the feelings of belonging, validation, and then this is repeated until the brain can no longer distinguish the difference. The fact anon replied with the meme is implicit verification of my post.
>>540838711tldr - 4 cycle history meme
>>54083907840% of your 'strong men' were discharged with psychiatric injuries from ww2.
The WW2 veterans that were not allowed to go home early from psychiatric or physical injury were also traumatised. Leading to alcoholism and the abuse of their own children, if not their own suicides. There were never strong men and there is no impending collapse from weak men, you have PTSD.
do you imply that living in cardboard houses is ok?
>>540839857I made no such judgement. Does the cardboard house scare you anon?
>>540838711You're right. This place is dangerous. I'm assuming you have a background in psychology, OP?
>>540840009It's sad. These people need help. Yes.
>>540839930only homeless live here like that - and in america people are paying jews hundreds of thousands of dollarinos for the priviledge
>>540839149you type like a sheeple
>>540840288I have violated the in group culture and the trauma bond and I will not be ostracised.
>>540838711you are a normie faggot that assumes too muchlike the assumption any of this is seriousthat channers bother with the identity shitif browsing pol actually raises your heartrate i don't think you should be here lolit's supposed to be fun
>>540840519The anonymous nature of the website reinforces the trauma bond and the novelty. You can tell me that it's all jokes but I can see it isn't in a variety of currently active alternative threads. It isn't all jokes. Many of you express genuine fear, hopelessness, rage, and implicitly across almost all posts, irritability.
I believe you are overthinking this. The board is hyping things because it simply needs some topic to talk about - there is little to no point in discussing how good things are, while fearmongering and complaining will always find interested ears. Plus, more often than not this is merely a trolling tactic - start a thread about Japan getting 500,000 Indians and you'll attract a crowd of anons getting angry and trying to prove this is not the case. However, a part of this is also the victim complex that many people here seem to have, which helps them reconcile their belief in their racial supremacy with the lack of personal successes or the general state of their countries. They need to imagine a shadow cabal of scheming enemies to explain why they failed despite being blessed with white genes, because otherwise they would have to admit their worldview is deeply flawed. So, when anons here spam conspiracy theories about the government adding chemicals to the water supplies, they are not being driven so much by fear and paranoia, but are rather just trying to rationalize the discrepancy between their worldview and reality.
>>540840146I have real PTSD and I don't panically scan my environment for danger. I just have a genocidal hatred for shitskins.
>>540840789I do not disagree with any of this. The victim complex, compulsive rationalisation, trolling, and the need to preserve an identity despite contrary reality are all present. But you are describing the cognitive content and social function of the behaviour, not its emotional substrate.
>>540838711What does this have to do with underwater basket weaving?
A person can be knowingly trolling and still be dysregulated. They can construct a cabal to rationalise personal failure and still be driven by fear, hopelessness, rage and a persistent need to scan for threats. In fact, the rationalisation is often the mechanism by which these feelings become socially acceptable, fear becomes 'pattern recognition' and paranoia becomes 'research' and helplessness becomes conspiratorial explanation, and anger becomes identity.'It's just bait' does not explain the patterned specificity of the bait, not the underlining drive.
>>540840654Nah we're just a bunch of Warhammer 40k larpers.
>>540838711we are winters children
>>540841335Sure you are, anon.
>>540838711>believe in the jewish propaganda >get stabbed, cheated out of money, dignity >believe in the redpill propaganda >use a god given cortisol to defend yourself and your loved oneswow, you sure showed us
>>540841621Incredible.
>>540840654aye the touristsfilthy touchphone using social media account having subhumansno sense of humor or irony
>>540841335Jup.
>>540841335mind that porn thread that turned into battletech rp?>800cbills on the freeborn!
Consider that for most of the nations you reside in, you are more likely to die of heart disease than of violence. Consider that the use of digital devices is linked to early morality.
>>540841541For the Imperium of Man!
>>540841814For the OmniiiiiiEMPERORi dunno op it still sounds like hogshit to me, you'd have to be some kind of tribal retard with no barrier between fantasy and reality for your take to line uphave ye no considered that ya might missing a piecelike humor, irony, all works of fiction and falsehood, like the ooga booga groupshit that doesn't exist in and is actively eroded by chan culturehave you been here long?
>>540841724I've been here awhile.
>>540841258I think the conspiracy part, as well as pattern recognition and everything that goes with them are, aside from the aforementioned victimhood complex, also just an attempt to attain a bit of control over reality which is otherwise chaotic and beyond their reach. "Preppers" are likely the best example of it - their paranoid preparations for some kind of apocalyptic scenario is mostly driven by desire to have some control over their lives. Otherwise they are in the middle of an unpredictable ocean that can drown them at any second, but doing some preparational work beforehand like constructing a bunker or storing some food gives an illusion that at least that one bit is actually within their grasp. Conspiracy theories and pattern recognition go more or less into the same basket - they give the theorist something to lean against, - sure, he cannot stop the evil group from doing their evil deeds, but at least he knows what they are up to and that's already better than nothing. More control than none at all. You could label this as fear, paranoia, powerlessness etc., likely some kind of combination of them.
>>540842182This is for my thesis. You are somewhat of an obsession of mine.
>>540842199well settle init's mostly porn and social media cunts too spicy for this or that platformlot of reddit in here, they cargo cult our art but it's uncanny and fucked loli think it's cos the redditors don't ever draw in mspaint they just trace actual facesand a few cunts like me that miss the time before touchscreen internet portables flooded the web with the lowest, the dumbest, the worst>>540842321if sociology forget my corrections, wrong answers are better for that meme field lolstick to the stochastic and you can't be disproven only argued with xD
>>540842306But, we hold all the power anon.
>>540842306That is a good addition, not a rebuttal. Illusion of control is a coping strategy for unmanageable fear because pattern recognition, even dysfunctional, converts an undefined threat into a defined one. A defined threat can be prepared for, argued about, or fought against in a thread. That is not incompatible with hypervigilance, it is hypervigilance with a narrative. The prepper comparison supports this, prepping is mostly anxiety driven, the act of prepping is the regulation strategy to a chronic sense of threat.I would put it like this, victimhood explains the narrative content, trolling the posting behaviour, and control explains why conspiracy and pattern recognition are the preferred outlet. None of those contradict a dysregulated fear driven substrate.
>>540839149Those were the weak men who were creating hard times.
>>540838711Anyway, its a burden worth carrying to scan for dangers so that the ignorant can be shaken out of their passive demeanor to alert them that their lives and cultural futures are under an undeclared, active, consistent attack.
>>540842811i'm not seeing itand i'm guessing any normies getting san damage from fucking 4chan posts of all things would be taking equal or greater hits on actual identity based social sitesyou never just play with an idea/scenario/ect? you don't need to take something seriously to intellectually wank with it
Hitlers Paradise.Himmlersmann
>>540843245I'm unsure why you defer to normies when I am clearly talking about you.
The early replies confirmed everything I had stated in my first post but I can see now you are all being careful.
Some posts being so careful as to be both off topic and devoid of emotion. Anons, are you changing because of me?
>>540843478You're a delusional narcissist.
>>540843597Then I guess I am at home.
>>540838711He looks like a happy chappie
>>540843300you describe an alien experience to the one i'm having is the thingi can try to picture someone taking posts seriously but i'm not able to do it myselfthis is a collaborative writing excercisethe main thing i'm looking for here is something funny something interesting or something i can make funnythe idea of threat or fear connected to my longstanding leisure activities is a bit bizarre
>>540843698All people who self harm say the same thing.
>>540839078I think you meant to post this
Those who indulge in leisure, the drinker, smoker, the cutter, the one who pulls their own hair out, those who isolate themselves and call it safety, the prolonged abductee. They will all say it's what they enjoy. We are adaptable.
>>540843790while having an actual harm to point toi have fun making things up and engaging with random what ifs, puns jokes references, love it alli look at the chans, after filtering the porn out lol, and i don't see harmfull or fearfuli see jokes and autism
>>540838711Okay Bruce, you figured it ALLLLL out. The Anons here are traumatized. But guess what?SO IS EVERYONE ELSE!!!The only difference between the normie and the /pol/tard is that the /pol/tard has the mental capacity and courage to understand and accept the situation they're in. You're right about most Anons needing healing. But you should also realize that the psychiatric system is corrupt and doesn't heal shit. It just give you drugs to lobotomize you so that you find your intolerable conditions tolerable.That's not how you make a functional, stable society. that's how you run a punitive prison camp.And even if Anons are traumatized and paranoid, are they wrong?Remember, we called out the satanic cabal YEARS before the mainstream caught up. There's a reason "/pol/ is always right" is a meme said with a melancholic tone.Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean we're wrong.
>>540838711Beyond 4chan just being for trolling and agitprop you sound like you're saying that instead of people having views that are either legitimate in and of themselves or otherwise that their reasoning eludes you while they can still be wrong, you're saying they're just mentally ill.'The deplorabeles' so to say.
>>540843977did you forget about preferences or is this some tabula rasa wankery :P
>>540844013Lets say I believe you and we disregard everything else I have already stated. You tell me it's jokes and autism but you seem to have forgotten the caveat that killers, spree, serial, and accidental, have all posted in these places. Sexual predators, child predators, the list goes on.Are you sure you are not in an illusion?
>>540844171Killers go to the cinema too, that doesn't have any implications for cinema
>>540844171was rammstein supposed to stop playing music because some kid killers played du hast during a shooting spree :|you expect me to stop doing a thing because bad people might enjoy it?was there an actual point in the statement that bad people use things too?i'm not about to stop making nazi jokes just because a low iq nazi visiting the board might go 'haha YEAH'
In fact, some very interesting leaks have come through this very board over its existence. How is that a joke, anon?
You sound like you'll be caught off guard by what is coming later this year to be honest with you.
>>540844300>>540844325Nobody has ever gone to the cinema or a rammstein concert and announced a planned killing, then left and killed someone.You are not being honest with me, or yourself.
the jews sent you to steal my foreskin and genocide gaza didnt they? tell the truth faggot, neither they nor teh aliens give a fuck about us and just want cum dont they? stop your gaslighting hands off my penis final warning gay space nigger
>>540844468I'm against circumcision of men.
>>540844509but you DO admit to touching my penis tho...
>>540844389I mean I expect that has probably happened at some point with some terrorist or loony, but I take your point. It obviously has lower consequences to spew shit on the internet
>>540838711You are a failed experiment.
>>540844389i'm trying to be but honestly i'm struggling to parse what you're saying/trying to saylike you just sort of declared things in the op without explaining as if they were self evident then asked why these to my view false things arei got the tism, be specific and direct
>>540838783In the trench? you're going over
>>540844569>>540844585If my thesis is correct it is a predictable consequence of unmanaged PTSD. Not of chan culture, or right wing culture, or ideology, or personality characteristics.
>>540844707what is
It is established that unmanageable overwhelming fear leads to direct action type violence. The nervous system is unable to cope with the exhaustion from the hypervigilance and reconfigures itself leading to the fear turning outward. The person becomes homicidal.
>>540844707Ok then consider this: >>540844152Because I think you are ignoring that people can have legitimate grievances.Maybe there is only some subset of people that can act on them, but if you only consider their mental condition I think you are missing a lot
>>540844832or catatonia
>>540838711it's not completely untrue.We should be authentic and follow our own dreams, not be afraid of everything.
>>540844832Has it occurred to you that society is so shit that anyone smart enough to see how shit it is want's to destroy it?
>>540844982doubtbeing smart implies knowing the startup times of the various machines that would be stopped and the resultsglobal carrying capacity as it is might be 20b but regional carrying capacity across almost the entire earth is a lot lower than minimum requirements for regional populations lolsocietal collapse has one hell of a markup on ticket price this time around
>>540844892Oh, I missed that post by you. I do not believe that what you call 'legitimate grevience' is legitimate in the sense that it justifies you to carry it for years, holding it, cultivating it, guarding it, to a point of obsession or for any protracted period of years. I am not saying you have not been harmed, or that it is ok what has happened, or that you are delusional, it is the reaction to the harm that is a psychiatric disorder.>>540844916Yes.>>540844982Has or occurred to you to leave that which hurts you?
Consider that addiction and the seeking of vengeance are directly connected in the brain.
>>540845227great advice i give to everyone hereget out lolbut in that guys case....ok how thosociety is pretty far reaching these days, not many places for a person to be outside of it
also terrible advice, isn't that the lifepath of uncle ted xD
>>540845227No. I'd rather not give up my ability to acquire technology and resources because a bunch of baby-eating inbreds and their lobotomized slaves want to pretend to be a functional society.Also, you haven't responded to my post here:>>540844108
>>540845338There are many people who hate society that get on with their lives and have genuinely fulfilling lives. But you can not do it online. You have to be around other hunans. They form social groups and advertise. The issue is that if you shun every avenue of change you cannot change. It's self imposed by blocking yourself of the paths that allow you to move on from the hurt you just remain, and you end up as bitter as a 70 year old man when you are only 25.
>>540845413>>540845415I did not mean leave society. And it is a deep insight to your own cognition that you both assumed that.. I never meant that.
>>540845227Ok, where is then for you the room for ideology? I mean for example violent independence movements from the past and present. There has to be a certain degree of passion in it, it's not just rational warfare. Is everyone that doesn't flee or keep their heads down in a conflict zone a looney?
>>540845227You sound like a kikeI hope you die
>>540840654that's all probably true, good points OP. (you) know what else is true? the hollow cost is a mathematically impossible psyop from 80 years ago and its traumatized the leading jewish oligarchy whom rules america and the west via private central banking. why dont you go campaign "never again is now" and tell them "never happened"? we dont have any power here except for the reality bending meme magic via collective consciousness.
>>540845637Then what exactly DID you mean?Be direct and specific. No one here likes to play guessing games about your motives.
>>540845653I would rather not get into such things because it's beyond my scope. The motivations for violent independence crosses into revolutionary ideas and are extremely complex and diverse, with many many moving parts. Historically you need to be able to at least join a group before getting to that stage. Join a political group and go to their events and make friends, see what happens I guess. Historically I would say the groups that emerge violently first never win. They need various other things supporting them.>>540845758Anon, I am against circumcision, for entirely practical reasons.
>>540838711Long ass way to write "ya'll need therapaay" faggot
>>540845936Why do you think the holocaust specifically did not happen and what do you define as holocaust, only jews, or also everyone else? What about the genocides that happened just before and just after WW2, do you also believe they are fake? What about the Danzig corridor I am sure you have an opinion on that?>>540846038Find a social group of people that think like you, who you enjoy being around, and be around them.
>>540846073Lol
>>540838711>you worry too much goy>ZOG is imaginary>we have your best interests at heart>trust the science>the police are your friend>you are exhibiting irrational thoughts goy>you are sick goy>you need help>you are a danger to yourself and othersYou will get the "help" they determine you need. It's only a matter of time.
>>540845599Why?So that you can easily identify potential leaders and either kill or recruit them to run your shitty excuse for a society?No thanks. I'd rather keep redpilling normies online until they tear down your system themselves.It seems to be working so far.
>>540842811checked. youre thesis implies people dont conspire, which is retarded on its face and we have RICO laws to address them. jews conspire openly in confrences like the world jewish congress and many others. they act as a fifth column, and they have captured america and our president. we make geopolitical moves that harm america while benefiting isreal as a MEASURABLE result. >youre just a bundle of goy emotionscouldn't be more off base kek. anything that can be destroyed by the truth, deserves to be destroyed by the truth. that is the only motto for /pol/ and its direct lemma of antisemetism.
>>540846047No, I just want to know where for you psychopathy ends and ideologically motivated struggle begins
>>540846285Or ptsd ends, or whatever
>>540838711>>540839037>>540838919>>540839404I think this poster is imagining that describing things in medical language invalidates them. You don't have a real emotion, you just have a diagnosis from the DSM, that's the implicit argument. Medicalizing simultaneously externalizes, removing the thought/feeling/emotion from the stream of reality and recasting it as a "faulty" reaction from outside the self, even if still inside the skull.
>>540846230So that you have some real friends.>>540846285I defer to Edward Bernays and his theories on groups for this. A group morality forms which supersedes any individual morality, and so a group can do psychopathic things while not being made up of psychopaths.
>>540844468>>540844509>>540844568kek, gottem
>>540846360I explicitly stated the opposite. >>540845227
Psychopaths, narcissists and the like are extremely rare. Media makes us think they are everywhere.
>>540838711couldve been a good thread instead its aislop sage
>>540838711Yes. Did you not know?
>>540846580This is how we have to write in academia. Most published work goes positive for ai.
>>540838711I'll turn off my threat response after the threat is neutralized, not before.
>>540846412A group can't have a mental disorder though, a group doesn't have a biological brain. I don't really see how you can pull psychopathic actions from individuals
>>540846664Based. Never relax. Metaphysical niggers abound.
>>540846696*away fromAlso in a sense it seems to result in pulling psychopathy too broadly over things that don't fall under it.
>>540846696It's too complex. You have to account for the characteristics of the leader and the followers which we cannot do. A follower who sees the leader as a father figure, and desires to impress that leader, will walk through the gates of hell at their command. That does not make them a psychopath.
>>540846777I suggest reading Edward Bernay's propaganda and crystallising public opinion.
>>540846802Ok and if he walks through the gates of hell out of his personal beliefs, it does make him a psychopath?
>>540846901No a psychopath doesn't feel emotional empathy it's clinically defined by emotion, not action.Good people do horrific things all the time.
>>540846901Think about a time you wanted to be violent and didn't, or felt an emotion and controlled it. Most killers are not psychopaths, and they have to control the emotion in reverse, they killed someone when they were just a normal empathy feeling person, so it haunts them, and they usually turn to dangerous coping mechanisms. That is most killers.
>>540838711Take it easy there, Eustace F. Peabody, wanting a home that is built well and of quality materials and can resist home invasion is not an absurd thing to be interested in. You can just single out the threat-related concept in every thing you encounter, ignore all other context, add up all the threats, and then spastically declare the total to be your subject's degree of illness while painting yourself as some messianic, untainted observer and reality as some free and inconsequential utopia where vigilance is never of import, but you'll still never be a woman.>711Saar
This is just an overly verbose "why do u care tho"
>>540846176>Why do you think the holocaust specifically did not happen and what do you define as holocaust, only jews, or also everyone else? >What about the genocides that happened just before and just after WW2, do you also believe they are fake? >What about the Danzig corridor I am sure you have an opinion on that?I am enjoying this effort posting or LLM or whatever it is you are. You're getting close here, you even appear to possess most of the framework necessary to ask the questions that actually matter here - will you do it, though?
>>540847234People in modern academia would be laughed at by by the greats of academia.That's how far society has fallen.
>>540847194I have ripped over 20 threads in the archives on the topic of home structure and not a single one has anything to do with architecture. They persistently devolve into high emotional threat analysis.
>>540847336I have been trained to write like this. Vague assertions are not helpful.
>>540847078Ok then I don't really understand the difference between the ptsd looney killer from your thesis and the normal guy killer who suppresses his emotions out of his personal beliefs
>>540838711I have more brain damage from porn addiction than /pol/
>>540847362Name your greats.
>>540847378is that so
>>540847428You are conflating PTSD, psychopathy, and your description of a group is very vague.
>>540847424Well that's good to hear - so do you have a question that's meaningfully relevant in this context, or would you like a hint?
>>540847537Yes.
>>540838711The hallmark of an asshole is someone who can point out a problem but not propose a solution.Pointing out PTSD symptoms is all fine and dandy, but what do you propose anyone do?
>>540847598I do not want a hint. You may stop.
>>540847604I can give you the most efficient solution but I held it back originally for reasons that will become obvious.
>>540838711
I would prescribe you the perfectly safe heart medication clonidine and twice weekly public speaking in a large group setting.>>540847829Genuinely heartbreaking.
>>540847656By all means. Enjoy your thread.
>>540843287Hitlers paradise would probably be a place in Vienna doing art at a trendy Cafe with the normies. But he got all butt hurt over the loss of the first world war and saw how a corrupt people destroyed an old empire out of spite. It's too bad he became a tool, a pawn, in their scheme. Remember, America would not exist without israel. Israel would not exist without Hitler. Israel today would still most likely be British crown land known as Palestine.
>>540838711Okay and??Yes we have ptsd.We are biological organisms living in conditions radically different then those our ancestors evolved to exist in.In many superficial ways there lives seem (and in many ways were) worse but they didn’t have the same problems to deal with.Their problems revolves around the threat of disease and starvation; worrying about the odd Indian raid or war. They didn’t have to deal with the live possibility that a woman they married might decide to rip out the unborn child from their womb or their kid might decide to castrate himself because a Marxist ideologue taught him he was born in the wrong body or a nigger might murder their wife and get off because the jurry didn’t want to seem racist.You bet your fucking ass that an organism who hasn’t evolved to deal with that shit, whose surrounded by explicit threats they have no context of fully preventing is going to be u see a shit tone of mother fucking stress.The real question is WHY did you fuck up the world so bad that so many people have to deal with such constantly distopian fucking nightmare??
>>540847924I prescribe you a hug.
>>540847574Ok I'll put it this way, the whole reason I started discussing this is because I think shoving every kind of past terrorist using seemingly political motives from 4chan under ptsd is overly reductive, if I understand you correctly, and in my questions I try to feel out where the limit to assigning mental ilnesses is for you. I don't care about the specifics of psychology because it's not my job.
>>540847965It is reductive and I wasn't doing that. The terrorist only came up because at the time anon was arguing that this site is only jokes, so I used an extreme example, which is still a real example, to show it isn't all jokes.
>>540847690Stop stalling. If you had an answer, you would have just given it you charlatan.
>>540838711cool, so our ancestors will not consider us faggots for not having seen combat—Obstacles are placed across our path in life, not to be boggled at, but to be surmounted, and I was fully determined to surmount these obstacles, having constantly before my mind the picture of my father, who had raised himself by his own efforts to the position of civil servant though he was the poor son of a village shoemaker. I had a better start, and the possibility of winning through was greater. At that time my lot in life seemed to me a harsh one; but to-day I see in it the wise workings of Providence. Adversity had me in its grip and often threatened to smash me; but the will grew stronger as the obstacles increased, and finally the will triumphed.Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition-[...] Widerstände sind nicht da, daß man vor ihnen kapituliert, sondern daß man sie bricht. Und brechen wollte ich diese Widerstände, immer das Bild des Vaters vor Augen, der sich einst vom armen Dorf- und Schusterjungen zum Staatsbeamten emporgerungen hatte. Da war mein Boden doch schon besser, die Möglichkeit des Kampfes um so viel leichter; und was damals mir als Härte des Schicksals erschien, preise ich heute als Weisheit der Vorsehung. Indem mich die Göttin der Not in ihre Arme nahm und mich oft zu zerbrechen drohte, wuchs der Wille zum Widerstand, und endlich blieb der Wille Sieger.Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26
>>540838711>Blah blah blah "you're traumatized"Okay, and? Are you offering any kind of alternative or are you just here to traumatize everyone even further?
>>540848044>>540847855
>>540847957Not a fucking argument nigger.A huh isnt going to change the conditions that you fucks forced us to live under.Are you a materialist or not?If you are one it stands to reason are condition is caused by the circumstances we live in; what you should asking yourself is why did liberalism (the undisputed hedgemon of the west since WWII) create such a mass of miserable mentally people who (by your own admission) have ptsd?Is that a product of a HEALTHY society in your mind??
>>540848020Oh, ok. What's your thesis then exactly? How does it connect to 4chan, if it does? I'm interested.
>>540848182It's more to do with your parents than you think. I know textbook but it's the truth.>>540848188Trauma on 4chan.
>>540847362"but how does this effect u personally"
>>540838711jew thread
>>540848071>clonidine>twice weekly public speakingThanks, Zoomer Doc. I am certain that a blood pressure medication and exposure therapy to overcome the fear of rejection will eliminate my PTSD. You should like totally write a paper and get it published with this amazing medical advice no one has ever thought of. You might just win an award or something.
>>540848412Well actually anon I am against circumcision because it meets the DSM definition of trauma.
>>540848287> It's more to do with your parents than you thinkAnd what was the context of their lives if not liberalism anon?You’re not addressing the critique even though I directly addressed yours.Liberalism has been the hedgemonic cultural establishment of the west since the enlightenment; if we live in a world of broken people with fucked up minds the. LIBERALISM did that.You don’t get to run the fucking show and not be held responsible for how it ends.Look upon ye works homosexual and despair.
>>540848435It doesn't eliminate your PTSD. Like all things in life it is a process, you do that for 12 weeks and we do more, if you are expecting me to know where to go after the 12 weeks of normalising then you misunderstand humans.
>>540844171>a freespeech anonymous internet community has a bunch of randos, some of the best & some of the worst of humanityimagine my shock—
>>540848457Psychologists giving me all their money is not listed as a disorder in the DSM, therefore it is good and natural
>>540848484I am not political, anon.
total nigger lover death
>>540848571Lol. Is making my most important academic work the humanisation of yourself to the rest of the world not good enough?
>>540845599>you end up as bitter as a 70 year old manim not bitter at all—
>>540848056He's just some fag on a superiority trip.Probably dealing with mania at the moment and thinks he can see the matrix.>>540848519^ This proves it
>>540848623I do it all in good sport.Anyway, I don't know if being described with mental disorders is humanising. I think it would be more so if we were described as sane.
>>540848732If you want to get better it requires work. There is no magic pill and if you recall, anon, SSRIs were advertised as that magic pill. So ok you want a magic fix? I will give you an SSRI in the morning and an atypical antipsychotic at night. You will be so zombified that you blink and 5 years go by. No more PTSD. Enjoy.
>>540848891I could never publish anything that argues for a diagnosis based on text data. It's specifically looking at trauma across posts going back through the archive for a big data set.
>>540838711>"If they are to live a people must have the will to fight and the will to hate. This is the incontrovertible truth of life in this world made hideous in our eyes because it is viewed through the clouded lens of a false morality that condemns as evil the demands that survival makes of us and the very instincts that empower us to meet them. For as long as we despise those instincts whether they reveal themselves in hatred, prejudice or in anger we despise an inalienable part of our own being and this reviled inner nature will appear in our eyes as a monster to wreak a vengeance upon us. But if we embrace it without judgment or reproof the veil will be lifted and it will show itself as a friend once more. The Beast Within was only ever a monster to those who had cause to fear it."
>>540848582Understood
>>540849054>makes up bullshit diagnosis out of thin air>comes up with a treatment plan based entirely around his ego>gets called out for b-cluster personality disorder>babyrages>jumps to conclusions>invents strawman to "win" argumentIt must be exhausting being you.
That's just called being human. Really its the lack of any such continuous vigilance that makes someone cattle. If you don't behave this way, you are the same as a sheep or other livestock, grazing and oblivious.
>>540849465>noooooo you must so open minded your brain falls out, you have to let me manipulate you noooooogod damned penis touchers.
>>540849308Meta and announcing.>>540849389That is the standard treatment plan for those who will not put in the effort. It's what is given for treatment resistant individuals. Google it.
>>540846496Still medicalizing the "reaction," which is the active portion. People are allowed to believe whatever they want as long as they act correctly. And for you that's submitting to the medical industry to be safely absorbed.You're clean and sly, but not as much as you think.
>>540849711The reaction should not persist for years. To use your own colloquialism, that would be a 'weak man'. Harbouring grevience for years. A 'strong man' would be able to move on.
>>540849589You are so high up your own ass you haven't even established if your patient has been untreated or not, doctor.I have handled my PTSD, which is why I know you don't know shit about it.You are like a tranny trying to tell women what being a real woman is all about.Go take your "I am a medical student and took psych 101 so now I am basically a psychiatrist" shit elsewhere you poser.
>>540849831But have you really, anon?
>>540838711Yeah probably true for me desu
>>540849869>gets called out again>attempts gaslightingTypical. I hope you switch careers to something you are actually good at.
>>540849054>If you want to get better it requires work. There is no magic pillActually, there is.-Pic Related protocol-100mg of pure, crystalized MDMA-Psilocybin the equivalent of 5 grams of mushrooms (I used gummies for this)-8mg of Galantamine HydrobromideDo this stack 0once a week and you'll see miraculous changes.
>>540850125I hope you feel better.
>>540850130If you are going the illicit route you may skip the stack and just use the psilocybin but it only works if you have someone to talk to. There is no point rewiring the brain aimlessly you could easily make it worse.
>>540850138check my penis and see how i'm feeling doc, turn your head and cough or sumthin...
>>540850138No you don't, you disingenuous liar.That response is like three copes in a trenchcoat.What did you even make this thread for? What was your goal with it?
>>540850344To simulate a red team. I did mean it.
>>540838711KYS glownigger we're not dying for israel. YOU LOST
>>540838711>Please stop scanning for threats>We've given this a name, PTSD, and called it bad, so you should stop.>Please stop scanning for threats.DON'T TRUST HIM, HE'S UP TO SOMETHING, HE'S TRYING TO GET YOU TO DROP YOUR GUARD, NOBODY WITH HONEST INTENTIONS CARES IF YOU'RE SCANNING FOR THREATS, PTSD IS A SCAM, THEY WANT YOU TO DROP YOUR GUARD SO THEY CAN FUCK YOU. DO NOT TRUST HIM.
>>540850409I do not want you to die.
>>540850649Lol.
>>540846412>I defer to Edward Bernays and his theories on groups for this.Wtf why? He literally believed a (((them))) has to exist to control people, so you could argue any hyper vigilance would be warranted in such case. It's like you wanted to apply intergroup conflict theories to a fucking message board like that's the source of all the bad things happening in the world today instead of realising that everyone is just reacting to the news here, mostly the news about real world conflicts being caused by damaged groups of people operating as you have succinctly described.
>>540838711I think most people who use pol dont give a shit about anything at this point.>we just pretend to care.
>>540851317I know and it is his greatest critique. I defer to him on that specific topic because he is clearly right about group morality and why a group of othersise good individuals can do horrifying things. But it should also be noted that he campaigned to have all propagandists/public relations experts registered and the US government dismissed it.
>>540851427Unfortunately that is a symptom.
>>540838711It's more kikes and nonwhites can't compete on a level playing field against Whites. Modern kikes are khazars with a type of effeminate paranoia. The demons underground can't help them much with the verbal shilling.Nonwhites are just dumb in general and can't shill or form coherent arguments.
>>540851762The two bottom symbols is that masonic iconography?
>>540851462Well then that's still a top down issue of lying to people. Even if you believe you're doing something for the greater good, should you lie and manipulate others to make it happen? How much PTSD do you think occurs in those who see through the lie, and cannot understand why you would even make it in the first place? If it is genuinely to serve the greatest good then why should deceit even come into the picture?
>>540852210Anon you do not need the control aspect to use his theories on groups, which were tested and proven in the real world, to explain group morality. His arguments for a secret cabal were specific to democracy and separate, but since we are on the topic, his claim was that if a cabal is not formed then someone else will form it. Do you think someone else has formed it?
Obsessive compulsive disorder too. SSRIs help. You retards that say they don't are retarded.
Single-dose psilocybin for U.S. military Veterans with severe treatment-resistant depression – A first-in-kind open-label pilot study>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032724016227
>>540852467Absolutely. Usually some already PTSD riddled type who has to be in control, no matter what. And what exactly is the angle of your thesis? That 4chan is a herd of traumatized individuals each contributing to make each other worse or that the invisible government propaganda system at work here can be seen via bots, shills and memeflags? Annoyingly it's all conjecture really, because 1920s theories < 2020s theories.
>>5408531741920's theories aren't inherently better than 2020's theories.
>>540838711i def took a lot of lsd to cope with the infinite blackpillsbeen here since 03now i know Jesus and i'm chill
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>>540838711Civilizational collapse is just the historian being a prophet looking backwards. There's no threat scanning or hypervigilance surrounding it. Once you understand why it is happening and the causal factors it actually becomes a reassurance if anything. A beacon that says nature is healing and balance will be found again. An opportunity for a destructive and dysgenic organism to correct itself. This place just allows structural analysis to occur in a more transparent fashion. The attempts to shade it as trauma response and anything else globohomo psych culture has manifested is just another set of distractions. The reality is the positive disintegration model. The neurotic's and other troubled personalities are attempting to reach their personality ideal and the struggle and emotions are the long road one must travel and overcome to get there. It is entirely healthy and part of overcoming to lowest levels of the human condition. Only trannies need to cope and seethe over the DSMV while using it as a crutch.
>>540853174You should know that it happens anyway. I am not saying it should be that way. It is a linguistic analysis on collective trauma and grief. >>540853632Positive disintegration is real but you inverted it. It is about individually chosen confrontation with your inner conflict, moving toward a self determined personality ideal through disintegration you actively direct. Outsourcing that struggle onto a demographic you've decided is dysgenic is the opposite move, that's externalising the crisis, not resolving it at all. It is also explicit, disintegration is only positive when it has real developmental direction, not when it just repeats itself for years.
>>540850239WRONG, PSYCHNIGGER!!!Therapists are superfluous. If you want someone to play therapist use ChatGPT or any other LLM. They are unironically better than any therapist I saw.Also, you can use the stack + binaural beats/harmonics to rewire the brain.It's like MKUltra, but in reverse.
>>540841258>fear becomes 'pattern recognition'>paranoia becomes 'research'Have you considered that it's the other way around? Psychology fags could never into anything, truly despicable people, actual fecal matter pretending to dissect people's mind when all they see is their own environmental and educational bias.
>>540853915You do not seem to understand how the rewiring works at all. You have to carefully control what you do after taking those drugs otherwise you will reinforce negative habits and then have to do it all over again. >>540854065Ofcourse.
>>540842321Looks like we have another Jason Moss.
>>540845599....you just described the formation of a society lol
>>540854301I said in the next post down or couple down that I am not telling anyone to leave society.
>>540838711Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you. The PTSD and trauma bonding here is all in response to actual problems.
>>540854161I have personally rewired my brain without any of your stupid bullshit.Experience beat credentials any day of the week.
>>540854390What ratio of negative to positive content do you think you consume?
>>540854421The irritation suggests otherwise.
>>540854360ay but that guys question was about how to leave xDalso damn this thread's still goinglol at the guy who thinks evolution is magic path to complexityparts of modern humans evolved to need cooked food and parts take toxin damage from cooked food lol evolution is change over time in somewhat abitrary groupings, not a deific force of improvement, fittest doesn't mean best it means that which most fits, shit can get worse too lol y'know chickens used to be pack hunters filling the wolf niche xD
>>540853899The crisis is a self correcting problem and out of the control of people as individuals simple as. That is part of attaining the personality ideal. You cannot hope to control the dysgenic masses or convince them they're harmful in the first place. The solution is to allow them to eliminate themselves and enjoy the process at the same time. There's nothing new under the sun. Not even the Palantir and datacenter Babylon will forestall what is coming. The positive part of disintegration is attaining the personality ideal of none of this actually matters. Nothing needs to happen for everything to happen.
>>540844171And there he goes with the moralfagging, like clockwork, blind to his own biases, psyfag can't into his own mind, many such cases
>>540854435Are you a zoomer? Most people above a certain age here were radicalized well before they became glued to the internet. If you’re old enough you can remember the last embers of actual functional white civilization and just how high it towered above modern times. Witnessing that decay happen in real time was infinitely more traumatic than doomscrolling
>>540854569This is interesting, instead of conceding my point you have contradicted your other reply, which is exactly what I would expect of an incoherent philosophy. You are exhibiting a belief system built to absorb objection rather than resolve it.
>>540839149the vast majority of the 'strong men' in the ww1 and ww2 era ended up dead in some nameless batlefields across europe look at the great men who survived ww1, and cry for how many more were killed in a senseless slaughter brought on by liberal democracies and merchant banking
>>540854390see i never got this thing the newfriends bring with themthe main attraction of chan culture is or was that there is none of that groupshit >bondingyou are doing it wrong, go build your faggot CoMmUnItY shit somewhere else
>>540838711As far as that picture goes, is that some kind of lens effect on his eyes or does being shell shocked cause your pupils to emit light?
>>540854485Are you so braindead and disingenuous that you think anger at someone spouting bullshit and trying to psy-op innocent people is somehow a disease?Damn. Academia really DOES give you brain damage.No wonder most of you guy took the clot shot.
>>540854668No I am not and you ignored my question. I was not asking because of radicalisation and I have no interest in it. Would you answer my question?
>>540854785>spouting bullshit and trying to psy-op innocent people>innocent peopleif you can't take the whip get of the field nigger, this ain't a news outlet
>>540854725All death is sad.>>540854785No I do not believe it is disease. I am observing the contradiction between your replies. You stated that you had fixed yourself without help but then you spiral into unrelated things due to irritation.
>>540855291You are a very irritating character so you should probably get used to that
>>540854709You already did so by leaning into DSMV to begin with. Disintegration and reality in general can hold oppositional views at the same time. It is what exist beyond Nietzsche's abyss. Not emptiness but unlimited possibility through probability. Most will never be up to Choronzons challenge of dispersion.
If you took that drug stack to fix yourself and then continued to engage in discourse on this board, all you have done is reinforce the culture here in your brain. You could have done anything else, hiking, whatever.
>>540854742Trauma bonding isn’t like friendship bonding. It’s more like gallows humor and laughing at the same fucked up shit. >>540854801I would say I mainly consume content that has nothing to do with politics or current events. However, the negative content that resonates here is mostly rational observation of actual systemic problems. If anything this place makes people less paranoid than they were in the 00s, where finding anyone who was actually based and redpilled was rare.
>>540838711PTSD is made up, and not to be confused with the physical neurological damage that constant nearby explosive shockwaves cause.
>>540855399It can contain oppositional views but that does not mean every contradiction expressed by a person is evidence of higher integration. There is a difference between a dialectical tension and using abstraction to make a claim impossible to assess. I invoke the DSM as what it is, a language descriptor for observable patterns. It is not a metaphysics. Choronzon does not resolve the contradiction, either does Nietzsche.
>>540855410the whole point of being anonymous is we do not build those bullshit identity structuresthere is no bonding, there is an anon in a sea of anons where the content of your post is all that mattersspeaking of why is no one else bothering, i know i'm not the only one with some old folders lol
>>540855539also not to be confused with the physical neurological damage of being corporally punished severely by mommy (GET OVER IT ALREADY)
>>540855539oooooofso definitely the humanities then lol
>>540855410That is good.
>>540855606scar tissue doesn't pass charge like what it's replacingyou can't get over physics lol
>>540855561You see through the lens of manipulated psychology when the world is an ontology. Choronzon is invoking the method by which one must come to cross the abyss, through dissolution, most panic when confronted with fragmentation, they fail because of their rigid sense of self and unified truth. The same things DSMV prey on. But don't believe me, just spend some more time with The Rapist.
>>540855583Instead you built a group identity.
>>540855583I wouldn’t refer to trauma bonding as a social structure. People can trauma bond to a behavior just as much as they trauma bond to a person. Just going through the process of getting redpilled is traumatic for most people, and looking at funny memes is a way to relieve that stress.
>>540855631Do you think civilization is better or worse than it was back when the west was whiter and more based?
A real thread for once. Have a bump OP. I've felt like ive been in a state of analytical paralysis for a long time.>you can never leaveBeen here since '13. Even with all of the shills and jeets here making this board practically unusable i still find my way back here. eightchan was peak /pol/ discourse. It's a shame that site got shoa'd so quickly and this MOSSAD honeypot is still operating. I hope every mod and dev working on this site die screaming.
>>540855779No I do not. Ontology and psychology are not competitors. An ontology does not make fear and threat-scanning invisible, nor does it justify it to the degree you are suggesting. If your inconsistency gets called dissolution and every objection manipulated psychology your position becomes the dispersion it claims to have mastered.You are bastardising ontology to justify your own feelings, and blaming me for pointing it out.
>>540838919>The "you are here forever" meme is the definition of a trauma bond.Yes sure and now we’re a part of your subconscious too. See you tomorrow
>>540855897You mean when the economy was roaring?
>>540855291Because you are being DISINGENUOUS.Which makes it impossible to argue with people like you.Because you pretend you don't understand what people are saying and try to gaslight them into thinking they're the crazy ones instead of addressing the underlying point.
>>540855818is this gonna be one of those 'oh you must believe in SOMETHING' fuckeries like with the spiritfags lol>>540855831and i reject that as the core of board culture in the beginning there were the weebs and those that found it funny to bully weebs who were themselves weebsthe nu-stormfag shit is recent as fuck, but irony blind tourists can't tell the difference between pol soccer and a goosestepping skin head apparently xDrambling...me point! this is a happy place and i don't get what all you foreign bodies are whining about with trauma negativity depressionthis is a playground of fiction, you really need a disclaimer to know that a post about jewish lizards from the moon harvesting mystery juice is bullshit? :P
>>540856052This whole thread is an exercise in you justifying your own feelings because you find it difficult to exist in this ontology. lol, lmao even.
>>540856088Why do you evil pieces of shit eternally like to pretend we don’t exist and never have? Globohomo jew leftists such as yourself will only bring us up to hate on us and cast us as evil.
>>540856157>everything here is fake and anons secretly love globohomo jews lol. Lmao, even.
>>540856088No I’m talking about the days when whites were the overwhelmingly dominant demographic. >>540856157You’re basically arguing OP’s position that nothing here is serious or rational
>>540856248because everything is either left team or right team isn't it sweetyall nice and reducible so widdle boi's brain doesn't get all frowny
>>540856102You label me with something that neither of us can prove. >>540856157No, it is the observed conformity on the board. You have a strict culture, a group identity that is enforced.>>540856160Now you revert to the position I previously described. If every psychological observation is dismissed as my pathology, while your own emotional investment is renamed ontology then you have made an unfalsifiable claim. Now it becomes about stubbornness. The other anon I replied to also made an unfalsifiable claim.>>540856204I'm not jewish I have repeatedly stated that circumcision is DSM defined trauma. This is another unfalsifiable claim.
>>540856331i still have no idea what op's position issomething to do with group identity maybegot a whiff of stochastic reification so maybe some stats as evidence garbagehe doesn't type well
>>540856331I have not noticed any change in my life that I can attribute to being around less white people.
>>540856514When will you kill yourself and how do you think you will justify it after so much parental investment?
>>540844357What's coming? When? How long do we have? What's it gonna be?Oh god, it's the thing they've set up all of this mass surveillance for, isn't itI fucking knew it was coming
>>540856442in this thread alone you have no less than four conflicting anonsi don't nazi fag over there considers shitposters part of his group loland i very specifically don't do groups each anon is at once unique and interchangeablewho says i'll be using the same tone and views in other threads
>>540838711Using your senses is ptsd now?How far will you go to gaslight?
>>540856579IS IT SAFE?
>>540838711tldr
>>540856580The anonymity seems to lead to a stricter enforced group culture, where anons are looking out for errors. Incorrect words, bad language, any difference that could infer something about the author of the post. It is very rigid.
>>540856690Read the rules cunt, they've been around longer than you've been alive.If you done the mandatory lurking you wouldn't be posting such a shit thread.
>>540856475OP’s true position behind all the subtext is literally >>540856514From this comment you can determine that he’s either a troll, crazy, a shill, or underage.
>>540840009Not that guy but I also suspect this board is a great place for psychologists.>>540840789However, a part of this is also the victim complex that many people here seem to have, which helps them reconcile their belief in their racial supremacy with the lack of personal successes or the general state of their countries. They need to imagine a shadow cabal of scheming enemies to explain why they failed despite being blessed with white genes, because otherwise they would have to admit their worldview is deeply flawed. The jokes on you, there really is an Epstein billionaire class cabal. And some of the so-called conspiracy theories on this board turn out to be perfectly true.
>>540856764This is not relevant to the reply.
>>540856874You are talking about a culture yet wonder why it exists. If you had read the rules, done the lurking, maybe you'd understand the culture.Instead we will continue to mock your incredibly dumbasses.
>>540856932I have not once wondered why it exists. I have posted more than 80 times. I guess the correct colloquialism here is, lurk more. Lurk my thread more, anon.
>>54085697693 posts holy shit.I wouldnt want to lurk your thread, but see how cleanly i took over from the brit?
>>540857012How does that make you feel, anon?
>>540840848based and sane pilled
