AND OWNING NOTHINGhttps://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/on-august-15-1971-the-u-s-went-off-the-gold-standardHOW DO YOU FIGHT THEM?DEMAND AMERICA GOES BACK ON THE GOLD STANDARD AND OUTLAW DEMOCRAT (FDR) CONFISCATION
>>540848813Going back to the gold standard would throw the economy into a deflationary crisis. Gold fags and lolbertarians are economically illiterate. They are literally the White version of the low IQ approach Zimbabwe economics
We'd still be slaves, just to the morons who own the gold. And don't pretend many of them wouldn't be Jews.
Hitler wasn’t on the gold standard and he BTFO of all western nations before the jews panicked and mobilized the goyim world to destroy their own
>>540848948>>540848957You don't need gold Goy.Flour sack skirts are fine.Get back to the factory.
>>540848813>HOW DO YOU FIGHT THEM?Stack physical silver.>>540849077He was on a silver standard, people were using silver reichsmarks as money.
>>540849077Hitlers invasions of other countries was for their gold..
>>540849151>you need gold, goy>you need to impose austerity on your country because a bunch unrealistic ideologues who think they have fixed economic problems belong to a cult>the most important precept of this cult is that money always needs to be artificially scarce>you need to throw your economy into a deflationary crisis with massively increased unemployment because crashing the price of everything is the based and red pilled way to fix everything, goy>a gold standard is based, goy>a deflationary depression fixes all of our economic problems, goy
>>540848948Jew hands wrote this post.
>>540849445>helicopter money is unlimited goy take as much as you want all we need is your worthless boomer rocks goy
>>540849687You can still keep your ((precious metals)) if you want. No one is proposing taking away your gold or your silver. Spare us the straw man. Gold and silver are useful as a hedge against inflation. They're not useful as money in a modern economy. Nor is it advisable to go back to a gold standard that would all but instantaneously force the economy into a deflationary crisis. The first politicians who do this today would go down in history as huge failures in governance
>>540849584>you're JewishNope. I was raised Episcopalian. I converted to Catholicism for my wife and for our kids. Also, that's not an argument. Accusing someone with whom you ha e a disagreement of being a Jew is not an argument
>>540848813Nixon wasn’t a Jew. The faster you understand it’s White Christians screwing you over, the better
>>540850514It's simple.Monetize all dollars in existence with all gold under U.S. control.
>>540848813>my gold standardEven a child can understand why it had to goGold is near impossible to mine now
>>540850514even the scarecrows are getting more than me
>>540848813How much gold is there in the world? How much money is there in the world? These are well-understood quantities. Answer in the form of numbers with units.Is there enough gold to back currency? Y/N?
>>540851106>>540848948That's sort of like a heroin addict pointing out how unpleasant it would be to get off his habit. The longer you put off dealing with the discrepancy, the worse it will become.
>>540848813Nixon had intended for leaving Bretton Woods to be just a temporary reset, and for the US to soon return to the gold standard.The jews eliminated Nixon because they wanted to make (((fiat debt-money))) money permanent.
>>540851392But do you think having gold backed money would have changed anything?Indian citizens have the most gold in the world in personal ownership, do you want the global trade in rupees?>but Amerikkka has 8000 tonnes of gold!!Lol, may I see this gold?
>>540851225>The longer you put off dealing with the discrepancy, the worse it will become.So, since there is too much non-gold wealth in the modern world to use gold to back currency... you propose destroying wealth until there is little enough left for gold to be used to back currency? Do you know what a commodity standard for currency means?
>>540848813>Just listen to this 3 hour podcast broPeople are so lazy here. Make an op that isn't a lazy fucking link to your podcast or a twitter screen grab your idiots. This is why this board is a joke.
>>540851794Yeah like everyine has 3 hours to waste on some soverign citizen skitzo ramblings on a whim.>look you are lazy if you dont waste time
>>540850949>It's simple>proposes mathematical impossibility this is your brain on libertarianism.
>>540851225You are operating from the premise that not having a gold standard is somehow a disordered state of affairs. Your analogy is ridiculously parochial. In reality, not all wealth can realistically be calculated by the availability of gold. This is something that your ideological precepts appear incapable of dealing with in a realistic way
>>540852084>>540851711You two are jewish buffoons, to put it lightly.
>>540853508>only jews understand basic economicsHow do you think commodity-backed money works, anon?
>Hal Turner>there are people on this board who don't know he admitted to being an FBI informant and constantly publishes as fake stories.AlsoSAVAGE.NEGRO.BEASTS.
>>540852084>>540851711He's operating from the premise that his flimsy gold stacks will somehow magically become worth millions when recalculated against all the other wealth on the planet.Goldbugs entertain many fantasies like this.
>>540851684I remember them opening a couple of the vaults in ONE Indian temple and it being like something from a Brendan Frasier mummy flick, and everyone panicking and sending military in to guard it. Them pajeets have been stacking for Krishna for millennia.
>>540851094You dont want that. Get a flat assed bitch that went to college with a little weight on her like the rest of us did. Its the only way to buy a house and have a kid or 2.
>>540851864>mfw I routinely eat kitkats and open potato chip bags like that .webm
>>540853726You are a jew.
>>540854122Nope, sorry. You goldbuggies sound like all the cryptards who think Bitcoin is going to reach a million one day, and that they aren't just slurping up the massive hoards of the whales who are cashing out.
>>540854279Silence kike. If you continue to skirmish me I will skewer you.
>>540853508>you're JewishOnce again, that is not a credible argument for replying to someone who you have a disagreement with. Once again, I was raised Episcopalian. However, I converted to Catholicism for the wife. Yikes, you guys are cringe
>>540853726This is true. They think that they can make the stupid bets they've made turn out profitable if only they can meme a gold standard into existence. The notion that they are working off of unrealistic premises is alien to them. People who are obsessed with the end of the world are the same way. Sunk cost fallacy is real
>>540848813Does gold build factories, roads, plumbing, housing, energy infrastructure, etc. or is that built with labor and resources? What happens if you peg your economy to a finite commodity which you can't contract or expand the supply of if needed? Or should we resign ourselves to not doing anything when the resources and labor are available but shiny metals aren't? Or what about when a new supply of gold is found and it crashes your economy like what happened to spain when they discovered gold in the new world? What about when the people who own the supply of gold create artificial scarcity so that they can expropriate the property of borrowers who can't pay off their debt?
>>540855379>what about when a new supply of gold is found and it crashes your economy like what happened to spain when they discovered gold in the new world? That is literally the dilemma about fiat currency except on a much smaller scale. The stupidest argument against a metal currency is "it will increase in quantity some times." There are absolutely zero checks on governments producing fiat currency as we have seen and their exchange rates with eachother are completely unreliable.
>>540848813You need a bimetallic (gold and silver) standard. Gold alone isn't stable.
>>540854464That's a really bad graph.>>540855630>The stupidest argument against a metal currency is "it will increase in quantity some times."That's a contender, I suppose. How about instead of responding to stupid arguments, you respond to better arguments, like there not being enough gold to back modern currency?
>>540854279Bitcoin will reach 1M in 8-12 years and yes its the next gold standard, only far better in every way conceivable
>>540850514I kind of want to kill this woman Like I’d love to carve her skin off with a paring knife
>>540856735>only far better in every way conceivableDoes mining gold or mining bitcoin use more power?
>>540848813>blames DEMOCRAT (FDR) CONFISCATION>but cries about 1971Nixon was president you dumb fuck.
>>540855630The issue is that gold is not something you can control the supply of, so I'm giving examples of how that problem plays out. The main problem is deflation of course, inflation at this point probably wouldn't happen unless we started mining asteroids or mining in the sea. Yes, a fiscally irresponsible government can take advantage of it's power to issue currency, but it can also not. Because the fact is you can't have a powerful industrial economy without the ability to issue your own currency, it's why even with commodity backed currencies they started to print more notes than could actually be redeemed. Why limit yourself to a commodity when the limit is in the resources and labor exists to make shit happen? Do you understand how retarded it is when all the capacity to do something exists yet you're limiting yourself to shiny metals? If your currency isn't flexible enough to adapt and respond to the needs of an economy then it's objectively bad. The only real argument is not economics, because the libertarian economics is just plain wrong, but sovereignty. Hard money advocates don't want an entity to have the power to issue currency because they can abuse it, ok, fair enough. But what about the fact that's already the case with hard money? Is gold or silver something most people have? If it isn't then whoever owns most of those metals is de facto issuer of your currency if it's backed by gold and/or silver. They can deflate the currency to expropriate all your shit. You're a farmer and you borrow money, then there's deflation, what happens? You can't pay off your debt and they take your farm. You're a country paying debts in gold, you export domestic goods in exchange for gold and then what do you think happens? The demand for goods is the same but you just exported all that for gold to pay off debt.
>>540848957At least we wouldn’t be getting fucked in the ass by inflation from fiat money printing you fuckin mouth breather.
>>540848813Should I top off my gas?
>>540856823w ... why?? what did she ever do to you? she's just having harmless fun.. did someone hurt you, anon? who hurt you? who hurt you that now you are this bitter? get, help! get help before you hurt yourself or others. the last thing I would like to read in the news is> 4chan user has been charged with the murder of an influencer after slicing her skin off with a pairing knifethat would just be tragic
>>540856735Bitcoin is retarded, you're wasting all that energy, electronic parts, and computing power for something that is objectively worthless. If you mine metal you get a physical commodity that's actually worth something. If you print money in accordance with work done, even if the paper is practically worthless (still worth more than bitcoins though), it represents an obligation and is backed by an entity that can enforce it with violence. It's used to mobilize productive forces for fruitful ends. The only thing bitcoins accomplish is worthless speculation and wasting energy and resources. It represents absolutely nothing but the figments of people's imagination.
>>540848948>deflationary crisis.>goyim paper buy more>jews most affected Lol
>>540857316I get what you're saying and you are trying to argue the case which the governments made when they switched to fiat in the early 20th century. Another cogent argument for fiat (especially electronic) is that it allows the secure movement of mass amounts of currency faster, which enables much higher volumes of trade.If we imagine a city had a banker, and the banker decided that the limited amount of currency was preventing people from reaching their full productive capacity, this may serve as a concise metaphor for your and their case.But already we can sense the MORAL flaws there. If people are unwilling to do work, why would creating more money cause them to work more? Because they are being tricked. What is more, you constantly frame yourself as the man who will extract this additional labor. Who gave you that right? Who are you to say that you need more work done than is already being done? Your answer you have already made: you have cash. Since in your system you are the cash creator, and you can create as much cash as you want, and therefore any time you want more productivity from any given sector you just create the cash that makes them more productive.
>>540857741A sovereign government which issues it's own sovereign currency to pay for things that actually matter like infastructure, instead of bank assets, is what they fear the most.
>>540857741>restricting the money supply is good for you, goyim>it will make us ... er I mean, it will make YOU richer, goy>paper money is bad because it isn't backed by anything (except the productivity of the economy but that doesn't matter as much as a shiny metal)
>>540848813Based beyond belief Anon.https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
>>5408488131913 banker coup. and Social Security act that incorporated people at birth if you wanna get more technical.
>>540848813>halVery few Anons know of his earlier work before he became a right wing radio host
