>aggravated murder is LITERALLY not murder>it literally isn't
legally it's a different charge
>>540856312different from what? There is no charge that is only called "murder"
>>540856273>the one moment where Candace is wrong>still manages to expose Andrew as a kike moron in every wayAmazing
>>540856472>black>womanShe had everything against her and still made Andrew look like a faggot. Impressive.
>>540856397Well, clearly not is your shithole of a country, Muhammad.
>>540856273>>540856397Don't waste your time arguing with the mentally ill.
>>540856273Uhh, snizzbros...? How do we respond to Shaquanda without sounding cuckolded and forced to raise our wives' children from other men?
>>540856273>aggravated murder isn't murderBut in all seriousness, what did Candace mean by this?
>>540856273>your guy jobs debate>get reduced to thislmao, he obviously doesn't cate about the case
>>540856397>There is no charge that is only called "murder"Then why did Andrew choose the most vague description possible?
>>540856397>first degree murder>second degree murderStick to your own country
>>540856699>What are laws and charges and sheeeeit
>>540856397so why did he say it was murder, when he clearly knew no such charge exists?
>>540856273canbased ownens
>>540856699She's a moron and was going for a "gotcha" moment, so her sycophants would have something to focus on and attack Andrew Wilson with. It obviously worked.Aggravated murder literally falls under the murder category. There is no such thing as just "murder" when it comes to charges. There are qualifiers that change the degree of the murder charge, but 2nd degree murder, 1st degree murder and aggravated murder are all murder charges. So yes, it's literally murder.That's like claiming somebody didn't rob a bank, because they committed armed robbery, therefore they didn't commit robbery. It's actually really pathetic it's gotten to this point. It shows you how mentally ill people actually are.
>>540857163>wall of cope
>>540857337Great argument. You should be a lawyer.
>>540856752cuz hes a fucking retard bro wtf kinda question is this. he chose an umbrella term because he was being mogged in real-time in 4k in front of millions
>>540857163she's not arguing that it wasn't fucking murder retard. what level of disingenuous deliberate misrepresentation are we on rabbi
>>540857163another dipshit retard. even niggers know the law better than you
>>540856818what did he mean by picrel anon?>>540856697you pay her 300k and unironically hide yourself in shame because you're clearly too much of a cuck to rope yourself, but of course, if you're retarded you'll create even more controversy and implicate erika as a liar for coming out and explicitly saying she checked his phone and there weren't any death threats, as retards will keep playing retarded games.
>>540857480I watched the video. She LITERALLY did.Andrew Wilson: I think he was charged with murder.Candace Owens: No, you're wrong, he was charged with aggravated murder!Again, you people are legitimately mentally ill and pathetic.>I wasn't robbing the store officer, I had a gun when I was committing the robbery, therefore I didn't commit robbery!
>>540857163he was asked if he could name one charge, he literally couldn't.>Aggravated murder literally falls under the murder category. There is no such thing as just "murder" when it comes to charges. There are qualifiers that change the degree of the murder charge, but 2nd degree murder, 1st degree murder and aggravated murder are all murder charges. So yes, it's literally murder.He wasn't charged with murder, he was charged with aggravated murder, thats a fasct, why are you arguing he was charged with murder, its not "literally murder" if it's literally "aggravated murder" nor is it "murder, unspecified", a charge. Imagine arguing that distinctions are irrelevant and try and say he even knew it was aggravated murder, despite the blatant evidence, that he didn't.
>>540857616pussy ass retard. no one owes a debater good faith, nor good faith to you. they were asked to be specific and they failed. show me a law where 'murder' is a charge with zero specificity attached. if not, kys, faggot
>>540856273Isn't all murder aggrivated? Whats with these kike definitions? I dont know of a murder that was pleasant or kind to both parties.
>>540856273>Erika Kirk: “Charlie never said anyone was going to kill him. He never texted anyone anything like that. I had his phone.”>Andrew Wilson, literally yesterday: “HERE’S A NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN TEXT FROM CHARLIE SAYING ‘I’M SOMEWHAT WORRIED THE LEFT IS TRYING TO KILL ME.’”lolEither Erika was completely wrong about the contents of her dead husband’s phone, or Wilson strutted into a $300k debate waving around an unpublished message that directly contradicts the victim’s widow and apparently expected nobody to ask where the fuck it came from.And remember, this is the same guy who spent HOURS screeching “PROVENANCE! AUTHENTICATION! SOURCE! WHERE’S THE ORIGINAL?” every time Candace produced evidence he didn’t like.
>>540857616yes, its clearly not murder hes charged with, its aggravated murder. Charged with murder, false and you're pretending that the killing act itself wasn't murder because she said he wasn't charged with murder, statement which is correct, but you pretending its no different than saying it's "not murder", the killing/act itself, not the charge/legal act, is you being a disgusting, vile, demented demonic kike shill.
>>540856273Roles reversed Wilson would've nitpicked the exact same point and you know it.
>>540857616Simple robbery is a different crime than armed robbery though. In Utah murder and aggravated murder are two distinct criminal charges. She was being pedantic sure, but in a rare case where being pedantic is actually relevant.
>>540857768>>540857772>>540857895Did Candace tell you this in a dream?I think you freaks have been training with the underground polish communist bee cult in Utah...
>>540858054>kike is reduced to complete nonsenseKikes, lol.
>>540858054>underground polish communist bee cult in Utah...Are you schizophrenic?
>I can says with full confidence Israel is behind the murder>ok, how?>OMG IS JUST MY OPINION!
>>540856273I am LITERALLY going to /an/ to look at webms and cats
>>540856273for a pedantics king like andrew it's sort of sweet to watch the turnabout
>>540857402pickle boy lost, now go cope some more
did you guys only watch a clip of this one part or what? the whole time she couldn't answer any questions about providing actual evidence
>>540856273Aggressive niggers are LITERALLY not human.They literally aren't.
>>540857477thishe had said "of course i know the charges" seconds earlier, but then fumbles like a retardit just proves he doesn't care about the case at all, he is just there to prop up his side and try to make candace look bad, and he failed miserably at that
>>540857616retardthey were talking about the CHARGEScope and seethe
>>540858483>Cuck: From what EVIDENCE do you INFER that it wasn't Tyler Robinson?>Candace: His fingerprints were the most degraded.>Cuck: Huh durr, please explain how that evidence leads you to infer that???He lost immediately and played stupid.
>>540858054>get btfo>get buttmad>ad hommany such cases
We all understand this conversation was couched in the legal terminology.Everyone understands the distinct differences as applied to the various forms of murder carry different weights.You couldn't even find a particularly unflattering picture of Candace... The only real question is, groyper or jew? Is there even a distinction anymore?
>>540858483neither could andrewall the while saying the evidence was overwhelming tyler did it and then walking it back and saying he was only 75% surefucking lmao
>>540858638his point was that there are lots of other explanations for why his prints were the most degraded yet she said there was 0% chance he was the killer
>>540858838>his pointHe didn't even attempt to make that point you cuck fanboy. His tactic was to play stupid and draw out an excruciatingly obvious explanation for the inference.
Reminder that Candace is actually literally FUCKING RETARDEDSee https://x.com/i/status/2087406700299247778
>>540858054THIRD TEMPLE STATUS: NEVER EVER
>>540856397https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter5/76-5-S203.htmlHere is the charge called “murder”It’s different from aggravated murderhttps://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter5/76-5-S202.htmlNow that you have learned that, will you reflect on the fact that you just say stupid shit you hallucinated in your head without even thinking about it?Today you learned your confidence in something has no bearing on reality. Grow.
>>540858346Lol
>>540859068>andrew lost to a literal fucking retard that can wear 40 different outfits in 40 secondsBrutal. We really need to push this “Candace is retarded” angle to shame Andrew further.
>>540859045he said that tho. you would know if you actually watched it instead of clips on twitter
>>540859464Are you confident Tyler is behind the murder?
>>540859537Yes.
>>540859068wow, andrew lost to a retard
>>540859510Kill yourself kike
>>540859573Is that your opinion?Or is it someone else’s opinion?
>>540859621>is wrong so he starts to seethecandace is that you?
>>540856273
>>540858838Other explanations like what?
>>540859655You asked if I'm confident if Tyler Robinson is the murderer. I said Yes. That is a factual statement of my view.
>>540859718The fingerprints argument occured within the first 10 minutes. Provide a quote a timestamp of Andrew attempting to make the argument that there are plausible alternative explanations for Tyler Robinson's fingerprints being the most degraded.
>>540859812>american jews
>>540859809He wiped the part with his prints on it more than other parts>>540859828https://www.youtube.com/live/nPhCKwJ6ye8?t=3626there you go fag>he took too long to say that!!He didn't get to it because candace kept avoiding the question of how degraded fingerprints = patsy, which was intended to follow into this.The winner isn't who made it the most entertaining but who was right
>>540856273I watched the debate. Both of them were about as retarded as each otherCandice won the opticsSnizzy won the debate. Well, not really. More like Candice just couldn't actually argue anything so automatically he wins lolHe had so many chances to completely embarrass her and he just got caught up in dumb arguments insteadKueen Kandice absolutely skull fucked him on the midwit level that they are both on. That's all that came out of this, really. I didn't have to watch this. I listened to it while playing Farming Simulator 25 all day so it was bearable
>>540859812>my viewSo your opinion. Got it.Why is your opinion special?
>>540860119Sounds like cope to me bro. You must be a big fan of the TPUSA narrative.
>>540856273>ummm sweatie rape by deception is rape, it's in the name
>>540860082>"Is there a hundred other plausible explanations [that Tyler Robinson's fingerprints are the most degraded?"That's all he said. He didn't even got giddy that Candace missed on opportunity to press him on it. So you admit he made absolutely no argument. How fucking stupid are you? Are you married to going to bat for Wilson because you too are a cuck?
>>540856572alexandria is still my queen, youre rightoid whore for cheap fluffs is not for me.
>>540857163Holy COPE just take the L nigger.He should have prepared and know the bare basics then he wouldn't be "uhmmmm I dunno... like.... murder?" sounding like a clueless retard.Imagine going to a debate in front of millions of people and you don't even bother to prepare and learn the basics. So arrogant and retarded.
>>540859506>shame Andrew furtherJust give him time, he will do bring shame upon his wife's children again real soon.
>>540860431that is an argument, retard. it disproves that there's 0% chance that he's the killer because of degraded fingerprints.>provide a timestamp>here>NOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE CANDACE DIDN'T ASK A FOLLOWUP QUESTION TO PROVE HERSELF WRONG EVEN MOREwhy are you so angry? why the memeflag? are you indian?
>>540856572She forgot the part about proving her argument and winning the actual debate. Instead she was a defensive chud, complaining about clips being out of context for starting mid-sentence when she's literally there to provide context, which she couldn't, because she was too busy being an asshole dancing around questions and no giving a shred of Evidence about Erika Kirk, Israel or France. It was an embarrassing attempt to save face. Such massive cope
>>540860658>Andrew Wilson: "Is there a hundred other plausible explanations [that Tyler Robinson's fingerprints are the most degraded]?"Provide a quote timestamp where he argued 1/100 reasons, you fucking imbecile.
>>540856775when the state does it it’s a 33rd degree murder
>>540856273I don't know the context, but legally that's correct, aggravated murder is a much more severe charges
>>540860734I just posted one. He didn't say any because she didn't ask him. What is YOUR point?
imagine simping for the "you like snizz" cuckold who married a whore and has 3 step sons
>>540860082>he wiped just part of his fingerprints off so they'd still be there but less this is your brain on retarded migger cope that a shaped charge in his lapel mic planted by pissed off pro israel miggers didn't kill Charlie. total shyster fryer pipul argument that belongs in the garbage, like the 'bullets make a gust of wind' or 'fragment midair' nonsense that are on the level of burning jet fuel bringing down the twin towers level of 'fuck you goyim this is the story'. like its insulting, are you a retard or do you just pretend to be one frequently. I hope you're at least getting paid.
>>540856273I hate this nigger bitch and all niggers in general
>>540860865You admit, again, that he didn't make an argument. Dumb kike.
>>540860658You are right in the point that you're making right now but wrong in the overall point imo. Just because there are other explanations for X, doesn't mean X no longer counts as evidence. Evidence, not proof. All she's saying is that she considers the fingerprints thing to be evidence that supports her claim.If Andrew was an actual good debater who looked into this case and is prepared to go over it then he would have been able to give an actual alternative explanation for fingerprint degradation instead of vaguely claiming there might be other explanations.That's what he always does, always hiding behind this argumentative retardation of saying nothing can be known and your morality can't be known. He doesn't actually know anything.If you're going to debate a specific murder case then you should know the details, you should be able to argue what the charges are and what the alternative viewpoints are. To his credit, he did that when it came to the bullet physics but he didn't do it about anything else.It's the same as if you were going to debate a flat earther in a million dollar debate but the second he throws a little bit of autism about light refraction you go back to abstract theory of knowledge bullshit instead of engaging in the autism. You signed up for it nigger, be prepared or get clowned on.
>>540860995what's more plausible>he quickly wiped the trigger and degraded his own prints but others were still there in other areasor>his mic fucking exploded because he was saying the same things about it becoming difficult to fend for israel as trump and every other pro-israel stooge is saying>>540861217The debate was over the fact that she had 0% confidence that Tyler was the killer so the point was to illustrate that she had no smoking gun evidence to support that. He didn't have to give another specific example for fingerprint degradation because she already conceded that point immediately after he said that.
That's nice and all but the debate wasn't about whether it was murder or aggravated murder.The debate was about whether the shooter was a patsy and candace logically couldn't even lay the tiniest foundation to her claims, she just wanted to use her shotgunned potentialities and have absolutely zero relevant evidence to back them and that is why she showed ZERO evidence.This is the problem with conspiracies, people go off into the deep end and forget that they are actually conspiracies and not truths, many conspiracies do in fact become truths sometimes but that isn't exactly often.Nobody on this website could debate Andrew, nobody here could even justify their own worldview or beliefs in a true philosophical debate, they would look equally as stupid as relativists and onlyfans whores.. and that's part of the problem, as plato would say there's a political hierarchy for a reason and /pol/ nowadays aren't exactly philosopher kings or even auxillaries kek.When the trial is over you're all going to look very fucking stupid.
>>540861602>when you get shot your clothes jump retard who doesn't get physics >he's just repeating every anti israel talking point! and getting threatened by donors such that he is texting out 'they're gonna kill me' and then has his mic explode killing him instantlychrist the more you think about it the official story is retarded. 4 people that weren't you confessed to something you did, while location data shows you eating a steak like 50 miles away at the time he was apparently watching cops root through his shit. I guess that too was a forgery? retard alert
>>540861704Andrew didn’t put out any evidence Tyler killed Kirk.Andrew is calling for Tyler to be put to death. He should have some evidence to justify that position.Candace doesn’t need an excuse to create content, she gets paid.
>>540861602what's more plausible?>30-06 vs chicken bone neck>his shirt moving before the shot, rippling>they don't perform cpr, steal cameras, and>paint over stage>dig up lawn>pave over active crime scene>nah nothing sus about this TPUSA backpack a mile and a half away in the opposite direction from any meaningful traffic>o hey, don't mind that the gun he had stashed in his pants has his dna as the least likely/complete profile out of 5 others, it's only his personal gun at that point also.>vance who?vs >not a blatant inside job and cover up patsy
>>540861602>The debate was over the fact that she had 0% confidence that Tyler was the killer so the point was to illustrate that she had no smoking gun evidence to support that.That's just her opinion based on her interpretation of reality. Saying she has 0% belief in Tyler is merely a debate tactic to make her sound certain and secure of her position. It works with the audience. She doesn't need to demonstrate either because ultimately it's about her inner state of mind that she chooses to interpret things that way and noone cares about that.>He didn't have to give another specific example for fingerprint degradationYes he did. It would demonstrate to the audience that is knowledgeable and sway the audience in his favor by teaching them an alternative example that is actually factual and not some retarded hypothetical like he always does. For example he could have said Tyler was wearing gloves when he handled the gun so his dna wasn't the most recent. I don't really care about the autistic details because I'm not being paid a million dollars to debate it in front of the whole world. But he should know better and have these details readily available just as she did.
>>540856697>snizzbrosThe correct term is 'snizzters'
>>540861794the seal team sniper from the end of the second part/debate before the closing remarks, he said exactly that and thats exactly why she brought him on, he basically demolished him because he reiterated almost everything she had mentioned also, but the fact the shirt moves, AND his neck is in one piece after a bullet almost the size of a thumb flies into it with about 1500–1700 foot pounds of force and the retard tried to claim maybe the bullet disintegrated in the air, utterly clown.
>>540862265
GET FUCKED SNIZZLINGS
>We gave you $300,000 to shut that nigger up and you fucking LOST?
>>540861948>when you get shot in the neck your shirt will jump upthat guy is equally as retarded as you, expert opinion means next to nothing when they lie as flagrantly as that. what is your compulsion to sucking off a cuck anyway? like I know Candace is black but this andrew wilson psy opped fake fatass has 3 of someone else's mutts. he's a bitch, but you are going to lie to people and tell them up is west and black is white like a fucking buffoon. do you get paid? if you honestly spend the weekend on psyop against common sense for free you're a moron. but you'd have to be to genuinely believe the shit coming out of your mouth.
>>540861794>location data shows you eating a steak like 50 miles awaywasn't the only evidence of that that the owner of the steakhouse said he went there? there was no location data
>>540862373>ft-lbsGod damnit I love being American
>DNA on the alleged murder weapon>DNA on ammunition>DNA on items at the scene>Surveillance footage>Alleged admissions in messages>The rifle and ammunition trail>Engraving evidence>The prosecution's alleged motive>Robinson's own legal team's filings acknowledge the alleged targetingSo these are the feds main vectors on what they have so far and Andrew would hold the same position thus he wouldn't need to "put out evidence", the evidence is there in black and white of which your sphere calls the fedslop. Yes Tyler should be put to death should the evidence be overwhelming enough to convince the jury.Candace is a retard and is gonna find out if she keeps being deliberately stupid, but play stupid games win stupid prizes i guess.
>>540861795>>540862783For you
>>540856273My tesla has aggravated batteries, deal with it olle
>>540862783Quite a list. I guess we start at the top.Were you aware there were dna samples from multiple people collected from the weapon, and Tyler’s was the most degraded of all the samples recovered?How do you suppose Tyler kept his dna from getting on the gun while transporting it in his pant leg?
>>540862632nah the geo data and the receipt and the restaurant owner all form the basis of that very real and inconvenient alibi for the official narrative of '4 people confessed for him and here's a blurry picture we doctored'.
>>540857616No she was arguing he had the semantics wrong and he did. You better start shutting your mouth quickly jew. Actually, don't bother. Hanging you for your crimes against humanity works better the more you scream. The Nazis had composure. You won't.
>>540862595i have 8 responses cretin, where did i unironically say the greentext you conjured up?
Did Andrdw Wilson debate Quest/Cultured Thug during his somehow even gayer, "Big Papa Fascist" days, or am I mistaken?
>>540863115in that same post you retarded newfaggot eglinshill. you said bullets are apparently not designed to be aerodynamic and actually hit with the force of a freight train. like actually patently retarded niggerbrain that has no understanding of how physics work at all. 'bullets make giant shockwaves as they travel' - the state of the 'magic bullet' argument. oh yeah and they fragment mid flight. and 4 people can confess to a crime for you and that's a wrap. what a fucking idiot you would have to be to genuinely think any of this hogshit
>>540862975if the defense doesn't use that evidence what does that imply
>>540856312You probably can't even name all 20 murder charges and their distinctions
>>540862928>and Tyler’s was the most degraded of all the samples recoveredAccourding to what? on the rifle samples, the prosecution presented likelihood ratios of at least 1 trillion to 1 in favor of robinson being the contributor/major contributor rather than the DNA coming from the number of unrelated unknown people
>>540863425According to the forensic lady that testified in the court. Give up, kike.
WE REQUIRE MORE SNIZZ
>>540863309quote my actual words you cretin, this is the second time I asked you this, and you failt, also didn't read the rest.
>>540863425>according to whatAccording to Caitlin Oliver, the DNA analyst that testified during the pretrial hearing.I’m surprised you didn’t know that, since you knew his dna was on the gun.Sorry to be rude, but how DID you know that if you didn’t watch the pretrial?
>>540856273This wide-eyed nigger is extremely stupid, yet thinks she's the smartest person in every room she's in. Just like every other nigger out there.
>>540863555That's just hearsay.
>>540863728Cool so anyways, what evidence convinced you that Tyler deserved the death penalty?
>>540863774When these Putin shills immediately started gaslighting and spreading kook conspiracy theories.
>>540863774What convinced me was how absolutely retarded that nigger is. If she believes he didn't do it, he did it.
>>540863830So it was a Russian conspiracy that made you trust TPUSA, the mainstream media, and the US government?
>>540863907Oh. Okay.I’m unvaccinated btw. I just like telling people that for no reason.
>>540863907>If she believes he didn't do it, he did it.What did the retard mean by this?
>>540864335I’m pretty sure he means he got BTFO in every thread he compulsively entered and this is his next attempt to not face reality.
>>540864335>>540864409Does candace even know what evidence is? Do you? Your premonitions and weird feelings aren't evidence.
>>540863706Why was his DNA on the gun? Did he jizz on it?
>>540856273the fact that anyone takes this sheboon seriously, let alone half of America's right wing, makes me want to side with the jews. goyim are NOT human
>>540864865On…. His gun? I would assume because at some point, he touched the gun he owns.See what just happened here? You asked a question, I answered the question.Now it is your turn:How did Tyler’s dna end up being the most degraded when he was carrying the gun around in his pants all day?>>540864769You seem really interested in evidence. What evidence suggests to you Tyler killed Charlie?
>>540864970We're tired of your goyslop lies.
>>540864980>How did Tyler’s dna end up being the most degraded when he was carrying the gun around in his pants all day?Maybe there was more jizz on it from other people. He probably wasn't ejaculating with every step.
>>540865515I accept.Did I tell you I was unvaccinated yet? I like to tell people I’m unvaccinated, for no reason.
Has she got the experimental yet? I hope so. I prefer life without Masonic persons! Besides Albert pike said black ppl were not allowed! Fucking assholes.
Why can't she talk about when it is completely legal to ? people for treason, or going against GOD or killing Jesus.
>>540862975what geo data?
