No, I don't think I'm going to listen to what someone says just because they threaten me with violence if I don't comply or they supposedly have some incredibly august bloodline if I see no virtue in them that proves they are a credit to that heritage.Yes, I like the idea that all sovereignty of government is derived from my consent for it to exist and the fact my ancestors constructed it and I believe it works for me. I frankly enjoy the idea that I have a natural right to resist or overthrow my government if it is usurped by tyrants. In fact I think the idea government's legitimacy comes from the consent of the governed isn't just a good idea it's manifestly obvious from history. That is, unless God decides to come down and smite anyone personally who claims Divine Right of Kings and then has their majesty impugned.No, the current state of demoracies in the West doesn't change that opinion. Abusus non tollit usum. The reason America is in a bad way is not a feature of democracy but a bug caused by a lack of civic virtue, participation, vigor and watchfulness. If other forms of government are so much better and more Based, why are they all equally bowing down in the West to this bullshit? Could it be, also, because they have deviated from their original purpose and design and people are woshipping the governmental form more than being willing to hold them accountable? Y'know, just maybe.Would I accept something more authoritarian? I mean, maybe. If the person trying to suggest he should be in charge is actually worthy of that and truly represents my people's best interests and is my people at all. But my preference will always be for Republicanism.If more people had the blood of Free Men in their veins, we wouldn't be here. If we weren't so morally degraded, we would've stormed our government buildings already. The issue isn't democracy or a preference for a free society, it's who we have tried to include in it.
>faggy statue larpergo back to xitter.
>>540858687That's my actual ancestor, nigger.
>>540858719not reading your posts btw
>>540858789Don't care, thanks for the free bump.
So why aren't you doing something about our government being usurped by Israel
Democracy is only bad to people in groups that don't turn out to vote. Right now that's young people.
>>540858870Why aren't you?
>>540858610>Democracy*Imports low IQ retards to compete against his own vote*You're a fucking retard. Kill yourself.
>>540858899There really isn't a point to voting in anything beyond a local election - if that some places. We need less ballots, more bullets.
>>540859117Weird, I didn't import any of these people.
>>540859172You classify their own vote as equal to your own. Not too long ago we didn't even let non landowners vote let alone women. It was still a "democracy".
>51% of retards vote we should all jump in the well>49% vote against it Law enforcement sides with the winners because it's their job, not jumping in the well is illegal and they will use violence against you congrats retard.
>>540859397Who said I thought their vote should be equal to mine?
>>540859522This is why the Founders and almost everyone who wanted a democratic form of government didn't create pure democracy.Also>king says you should jump in the well>it's the law because king says so>law enforcement makes you do it because the king pays them
>>540858610That’s literally what democracy is. Dump hordes of foreigners on the native population “peacefully” until you get your way. I reject all Masonic niggers
>>540858610Nah it’s gay the Greeks were right.
>>540858610
>>540860149No, no it isn't. Almost every advocater of democracy stressed you need a moral, homogenous society for it to work.
>>540860146What if OP isn't the faggot, but you are?
>>540858610I'm of the same mind but not the authoritarian bit. You don't understand how far we are from a union of sovereign state republics. We have had kings for 150 years in America. We have destroyed the constitution and patched for the sake of progress. Progress. The evil fucking progress of an empire. That's what we have become. We have forgotten the noble ways of free englishmen and traded our freedom for an empire. My ancestors fought it and now nobody remembers. Republicans are not conservative. Democrats are not conservative. We have no conservatism in this country.
>>540860399I'm a SouthNat truth be told, I agree with what you have to say.Conservatism, generally, is a dead-letter ideology if it isn't pro-active. That's the real problem. We need to be actively conserving something and attacking the things that threaten the way of life we want ruthlessly.
>>540858610Sorry, I lied and told the whole neighborhood that you're a pedo, now you'll be democratically lynched :^D
>>540860493 Well right now we try to conserve things. We try to conserve American lifestyle. Look tech vs. America now. This is an argument of conservative values vs. progress, which is always left leaning. People don't want data centers and cameras because they want to conserve their privacy and peace in rural areas where they are built. We are always trying to conserve what we have. In that sense we do have conservatism. Unfortunately, viewing conservatism as an ideology, is exactly what republicans and neo cons today push. They follow the values of thinks such as Leo Strauss and Harry Jaffa to push for a big messianic king/president to have a big outward policy on the world. This idea of white man's burden to manage the rest of the world as an empire. All of this is pushed by these people. The Victor David Hanson types. These old whigs of the republican party. People look at them for what is conservatism when they dismantled such notion a century ago.
>>540860146i concur but have you considered the following?
>>540860605You may try.
>>540860493conservatism that youre referrin to died some 50 years ago. it was replaced by lead chip suckin boomers who value money over race. the average young conservative, the boomers bastard, is a fool who walked away from education to instead work like a sweaty spic"the minimum wage should be zero"type of faggot shit the modern kikeservative says
>>540862356Republican party has been the same party since the 1850s, they have rewritten the narrative to enforce the idea that they hold the conservative view of the American past. All the ideas that the boomers were taught were long seeded before their generation.
>>540858610>Democracy>9 rapists on an island and 1 guy who doesn't want to get raped vote on whether that 1 guy should get raped
>>540858610ok vaxxie
>>540858610>No, I don't think I'm going to listen to what someone says just because they threaten me with violence if I don't complyyou will and you do lol
>>540858687>Brown hands typed this.
>>540860072sorry sweatie, we had a vote and uhhhh they areno, we can't have another vote, we already voted
>>540860399Seems like we had it with the Articles. But we started tariffing each others states, we couldn't resolve rebellions at all.After the Constitution we still started fucking with each others states and bickering about new states and how they'd be oriented.Then the citizenship question and passing Dred Scott using judicial review (we'd been refraining). Our decentralized ideal had to keep being centralized for our own good.The citizenship question is still even there and we're bickering about it just as much. It honestly feels like our design has been bad and is only getting worse.
>>540863704>Our decentralized ideal had to keep being centralized for our own good.I disagree and that is the fundamental argument that neo conservatives always make. The idea that there is a "for a greater good" bullshit
>>540858610>No, I don't think I'm going to listen to what someone says just because they threaten me with violenceThat's democracy, retard.
>>540858610How dare you sir! Bow to the king!
>>540863788If the greater good means weren't not spilling each others blood, I do think that's not bullshit. Do you think the states would have held together with those disagreements as extreme as they became?How do you think we're going to be able to solve this replacement migration? While I suppose one side could just roll over, our history doesn't really show that.
>>540858610Democracy is gay. Any form of government that doesn't support throwing Marxists out of helicopters is one I don't give a fuck about.
>>540859117none of them got electrocuted.
>>540858610NO IT'S NOT, IT SUCKS.
I do think American fascists are somewhat delusional. If anything like fascism comes to America, it will have American characteristics, which will look suspiciously like democracy, suspiciously like the residents of Germania rattling their spears in the long hall as they select their "king."
>>540864337If states disagree, we should split apart. Even Thomas Jefferson thought as much. This is what happened in 1861.
>>540864337All these questions on policy should be handled locally
>>540858610That’s fine in theory but mass “representative” democracy is just an oligarchy even less accountable than autocracy because the representatives are interchangeable and the money power controls things.
>>540863097My criminal record says otherwise.
>>540860072>goalpost movingClassic democratic tactic.
>>540858610Democracy doesnt exist because any vote is going to be skewed and corrupted by the rich and elite. It's a bigger and more complicated version of oligarchy. Political parties, lobbying and advertising rape the mind of the masses to influence their vote to not be genuine. You always have and always will live under a dictatorship of the rich.
>>540864595>>540864621Seems this is completely off the table and has been for a while now.Every time we reach an incompatible decision the federal government is stepping in and picking sides. This then necessarily means disappointing the loser. The gaslighting and viciousness shown with civil rights makes me rather concerned, personally.
