It's been 5 years since US left, but >Even more poverty >Still produce tons of drugs >Even with china trying to help them sometime, they killed the investors and workers that try to make something. >Didnt build anything since then.>No economic inprovement since then. What happend?
China doesn't have money to invest in them and wants assrape concessions in return.
>>540864791They actually try to invest in some mining there bur the locals kill the chinese workers that try to do it xd Reason why china don't recognize the taliban Even now, unlike Russia.
>>540864697>be mudshit>neighbors have cool stuff>steal it and claim it was always yours>it crumblesthey've been repeating this for 1400 years
>>540864697this is literally exactly what happened with vietnam. they have a mcdonalds in ho chi minh city now. americans would save a lot of time, lives, money, and reputation if they stop trying to spread their faggy fucking feminist horseshit to civilizations centuries older than them that don’t give a fuck about their shitty pop politics, and just have economic ties from the start while leaving their domestic politics to themselves. like the saudi model.
>>540864697Paraphased from a NATO commander:>not enough troops, need 20-25 security personnel per 1000 people>the afghan leadership wasn't buying what we were selling, aka western democracy>no clear plan past offensive actions, as a result it was hastily decided to turn them into something like usBasically they had 7 soldiers per 1000 people and would clear a village of insurgents over a couple days, move onto the next and the Taliban would just circle back to a previously liberated village and subjugate the people again.
>>540864947Yeah but why especially Afganisthan fail so hard, not Even North korea end up this fucked, they don't even have education system or minestery.
>>540864697They have to spend all their time to pray to inivible sky god, so ofc they aint gonna accomplish anything.
>>540864831>bur the locals kill the chinese workers that try to do it xdBased. Chinese try to put Afghans in the mines but they put Chinks in the ground.
>>540864697afghanistan has its own kensington street
>What happened?All the engineers, doctors, English speakers, readers and competent government agents boarded evacuation flights and live in Detroit now. We literally took all their smart people. Biden loaded them up on planes and flew them out. When the Taliban took over, they immediately banned any intelligent, smart woman from employment or service outside of her husband or father dropping the competency pool by 50%. All their universities are closed. Most of their schools are closed. Most of their male workforce is still unemployed.Then the floods happened and wiped out all the irrigation dams Americans had set up. But this time, there wasn't any Americans to come fix it. The big machines we left were already salvaged for parts, or had no fuel. Afghanistan cannot afford to import fuel, we paid for that. So their national power plant only runs for a few hours each day. Their hospital does not have a working MRI or X-rays as we took the radioactive pellets when we left.Any investment in the country, such as new railways or mining, ended when we exited. The Taliban raided their banks and established ownership, or were locked out if the money was held outside. The only country willing to barter with them is Pakistan, and Afghanistan's main export to them is slaves. Actual slaves since Pakistan and India still practice slavery.
>>540864697>why are jihadis retardedSeriously??
>>540864845Zvttnvke
>>540865618I mean someone had to ask the questions.
>>540864947>and just have economic ties from the start while leaving their domestic politics to themselves. like the saudi model.The "saudi model" is the british model, which always invites the feminism and the pop politics. These things go hand in hand, they're part of the same process. American companies will not setup branch offices in Kabul if their workers can be raped to death and police won't intervene. American companies sell feminism as part of the product, in the same way Chinese companies sell communism and Russian companies the Kremlin.The saudi model requires American military planes and missiles protecting it, which Iran is now stepping on. Riyadah's plans to make a Las Vegas of the east have been completely pulverized and they will probably end up like Afghanistan too. This was Bin Laden's goal.
>>540864697What do you mean wrong? They wanted to return to stone age, and they did it. And the afgan people voted for exactly this.
>>540865545I was there in 2012. Some of those hajis be into gay shit with kids. It was pretty disturbing to see. Straight haji was actually cool as fuck.
>>540865084genetically they’re identical to the persians, but religiously they’re like violent amish. the saudis were heading in that direction with some of their family members trying to shut down the introduction of television, then again when they tried opening their first movie theater, but they kept it under control. in afghanistan they won.
>>540865545since the taliban regained power they clamped down hard on that. there’s a vid on youtube where they show how they detox their addicts.>>540865798taliban also cracked down hard on that too. there’s another vid on youtube where they were interviewing kids who were victimized by that bacha bazi shit so they fled to taliban controlled areas. the americans “tolerated” it because the pedos were their drug kingpin/warlord allies.
>>540865045it's known as the graveyard of empires for a reasonthe only fix would be to literally kill every male and rebuild from scratch
>>540865570>>Then the floods happened and wiped out all the irrigation dams Americans had set up. But this time, there wasn't any Americans to come fix it. The big machines we left were already salvaged for parts, or had no fuel. Afghanistan cannot afford to import fuel, we paid for that. So their national power plant only runs for a few hours each day. Their hospital does not have a working MRI or X-rays as we took the radioactive pellets when we left.Congratulations you figured out why nation building doesn't fucking work. Its a poison pill that requires ever greater amounts of investment because the subject nation is incapable of maintaining the equipment its given. Giving them some 2026 John Deere tractor is a terrible idea, giving them a simple 1950-1970s style tractor makes perfect sense because they can have Ahmed fab a replacement part in a metal shop using primitive tools. We donated them complex 21st century equipment that even the average American would have extreme difficulty maintaining.
>>540865570>All the engineers>doctors>competent government agents>We literally took all their smart people{NULL SET}
>>540864831>the locals kill the chinese workerslmao. good
>>540864947>americans would save a lot of time, lives, money, and reputation if they stop trying to spread their faggy fucking feminist horseshitcool it with the anti semitism
>>540865570>Any investment in the country, such as new railways or mining, ended when we exited.Not true, china tried for a bit but has mostly exited
>>540866117At least from what i read China try a little to invest but got scared out of the inestability there+killed of their personal + Pakistan told them to please not recognize the talibán until they became more dócil to Islamabad, now they are at a passive border war lmao. So this is one of the rare cases china inst going to help them either.
>>540865934It was a weird time man. There were guys in the ANA that would defect to the taliban because they would pay more. I did manage to get some original soviet winter hats that haji had in his shop. The grey ones with red star and hammer/sickle.
>>540864697>what went wrong with Afganisthan?THEY WERE ALWAYS INBRED CHILD-RAPING SUBHUMANS, MORON.>P-p-proof for such an inflamatory accusation?US soldiers complaining about the child rape.Afghani police openly admitting to raping children:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI>Err... where??? Exact timestamp or you're a liar!52:10
>>540866392In theory they talibán banned this.........un theory
>>540865570What happened is Fentanyl replace opiates, so Afghanistan suddenly became less popular with western governments.
>>540866505My enemies fall like dominos.
>>540864697>AfghanistanWall it off, ignore it, forget it exists. Let allaaf and pedomo's ghost provide for it.
>>540864697>The social and political conditions that allow a community to industrialize are such, that the destruction of your traditions becomes inevitable.>The social and political conditions that preserve tradition, make industrialization impossible. Enough people in these communities are choosing conservatism, and getting the natural consequences of conservatism: poverty.
>>540864697>be inbred mudshit>pray to moon god seven times a day by sticking your ass in the air>lose virginity to goat>marry 9-year-old first cousin>don’t read any books besides koranNo shit their country is failing.
>>540865952genghis khan tried that. before that alexander tried assimilating to THEIR culture. then america tried making them assimilate to western culture. all failures.
>>540867049Le based emotional kraut
>>540867049Wonder why, only islam seems that changed their culture.
>>540864697Stop lying. Their drug production is zero now
>>540864947>they have a mcdonalds in ho chi minh city nowHow retarded are you? Vietnam is more capitalist than the US at this point
>>540866660White boy starts projecting his bestiality fantasies on other people while Tyrone is fucking his mother upstairs.
>>540867169Changed?
>>540867371>Stop lying. Their drug production is zero now
>>540867392yeah that was my point.
>>540867474>Cultivation plunge: Dropped from 233,000 hectares in 2022 down to roughly 10,800 hectares in 2023, and held near 10,200 hectares.
>>540867169not even that, really. unlike a lot of other places that were conquered by the muslims, the afghans didn’t adopt arabic. they seemingly just adopted the parts of the religion that already aligned with their culture. it’s even separate from salafist islam, which is why they’ve been fighting isis.
>>540867533Did they burn their millions of tuns of stores? No? They are slowly selling it over the years while the price keeps rising?Huh.
>>540864697Synthetic opioids like fentanyl replaced the need for crops like poppies.
>>540867533That's just because they're too stupid to manage crops.
>>540865045notmyproblemarino
>>540864697I did two tours there.That place has always been and always will be a shithole, simply because the people there are shit.The only industry that place ever had for the past thousand years was forcing silk road traders to pay protection money or they would be killed, raped or enslaved.
>>540866392Yeah in Kandahar the pashtuns would ride around on their shitty little honda motorcycles with little boys dressed up as little girls (its a status symbol for these creatures) and there is nothing we could do about it because its "their culture".
>>540866445>In theory they talibán banned this.........un theoryThey're literally faggot pedos.>Women dancing is banned in islam>But it's okay if a boy dances then you rape it>"international monitoring groups find no evidence that the Taliban actually enforce these laws against their own ranks. Local Taliban commanders, powerful figures, and fighters have quietly adopted the same corrupt habits as the warlords before them, continuing to kidnap, traffic, and abuse young boys behind closed doors"The documentary I linked gives great insight into the problems they have now.
>>540868068So essentially after Murics got out what changed have been.........is nothing except more abuse of women, kill anyone that try to make invest in the country and a border war agaisnt pakistan?
>>540867423One of my first village patrols I looked into a mud wall compound and they had one of those weird big assed goats with a pink skirt on it and its legs pegged into the ground.
>>540868068Here comes the christcuck seething and lying as always. I'm not the biggest fan of the Taliban but they have enforced what they believe. All hashish from Afghanistan coming here finished. That's why I ended up quitting. All boy fucking ended, my uncle has business there and he told me. Ask this christcunt for evidence and he will never be able to show you, only diddle choir boys in the confession box
>>540868202Taqiyya
>>540865968Nationbuilding works if you're going to colonize it. Colonization only works if you have a surplus birth rate. This hasn't been the case in the west for about a century, so it was never going to work in Afghanistan without combined help from Iran, Pakistan, Russia and China. Bush didn't do this.
>>540868124>is nothing except more abuse of womenThat's also a lie. Let me show you actuallyhttps://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/13/world/asia/afghan-women-taliban-rule.htmlLook look how horrible Taliban is!!Now look at who wrote it.
>>540868255>Colonization only works if you have a surplus birth rateGood point. And who would want to go to a shithole like Afghanistan?
>>540868246Nice try Sanjeev no one's buying it
>>540868328You people throw acid in the faces of little girls walking to school.
>>540868345You are literally a muslim pajeet lmao
>>540864947Afghanistan has legal gay child rape, I don't think that's the reason.
>>540868369>>540868408Look at this seething pajeet. Post your hand with an ID stamp Kumar.
>>540868434
>the British Empire ruled the region, and they documented the phenomenon of bacha baaz ("boy players") heavily>YouTube Al Jazeera English: The Pashtun leader who peacefully and courageously defied the British Empires commands to stop raping childrenLMFAOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>540864697>What happend?they are still the same inbred corrupt retards as before. A sane leader would have tried to reduce the population growth instead they encouraged it. Now they have to manage it themselves and can't fix it without external help. Of course China is going to demand maximum trade benefits Afghanistan is a shithole no matter how much shit they supposedly have. They should have gotten their tribal idiots to stand down and work together with Pakistan and Iran instead they do their very best to piss off both of them due to pride and tribal infighting.Everything they do they try to justify via religion while in true its their culture or tribal instinct at work. Its such a stark contrast to travel from Kyrgyzstan down to Afghanistan, Iran and then Oman Afghans have way too much pride for the shithole they are. Learn from others fix the population growth, get rid of the landowners acting like feudal lords, stop oppressing the educated people and give the non educated a chance and everything else fixes itself we have seen this shit over and over again and it always turns out the same. You can't govern a country with 20m retards.
The final blackpill is realizing, that the Soviets did nothing wrong, poisoning the wells in Afghanistan
>>540865952British went on the conquer half the world after Afghanistan
>>540865968Japan. China. Korea all figured it outApartheid South Africa did tooGermany rebuilt after the warNation building works when the people care
You know it's bad when even the EU is deporting non-criminal Afghanis
>>540868762>Apartheid South AfricaYou tried slipping that one in didntcha?
>>540867049British Empire did fine
>>540868762I mean i am not Even asking to become a first world industrislized nation but even for thrid world nationts Afganisthan inst Even trying at the minimal, is imprssive.
>What went wrong The people intelligent and ambitious people left the country. They heard that the religious guerrilla army was going to take over and they ran for their lives assuming they'd get murdered or spend the rest of their lives living like it was the first century. Their extreme war style scared the shit out of anyone rational and then when it turned out they wanted to run the country normally they only had those who couldn't run or wouldn't. The other problem is that by ejection America they rejected that sphere of influence. The thing is most of the world is in that sphere besides China and its eastern block. That means most people won't invest in their country and see investment as a means to get robbed by a country that isn't bound to any international laws. Now China likes risky investments, but the Chinese are shrewd and they'll screw you if they know their the only game in town. That's why Afghanistan is capitulating. They still don't like America, but they need to be in the network if they don't want to get bullied by China and seen as a modern nation of laws rather than a nation of the sword.
>>540865952>muh graveyard of empiresthey've been conquered and occupied by every fucking invading force that ever set foot into their lands for like the last 2500 yearsand either they got bored and left or it was just a stepping stone to conquer someplace elsebritish and soviet experience in that country were the backdrop for that cia niggers foreign affairs article about occupation campaigns being unwise, even though both the soviets and the brits had conquered the shitholethe brits gave independence back to them following ww1 and the after years of brutalizing the afghanis, the soviets said fuck this after cia involvement of the mujahideen and left but not before planting a bazillion landmines as a final fuck you and destroying natural gas reserves
>>540868762>peopleNotice how all the nations you reference aren't brown?>Apartheid South AfricaExactly...
Did anything went wrong? Who are we to judge the way they choose to live, as long as they're not trying to hurt us?
>>540865570>When the Taliban took over, they immediately banned any intelligent, smart woman from employmentAnyone who isn't a complete and utter fucking retard knows women are not able to produce much of anything. They can knit some clothing and cook adequately, but not well.And every woman with a job is a man without a job, a man who would be 1000% more effective in that same role than the woman is.Women should not be employed:They take jobs from menThey are incompetentBecause they won't marry a man with a job worse than her own, the end result of female employment is cratering birth rates - as we are seeing in the west. The fastest way to self destruct your civilization is to educate and train women for the workforce and then preferentially hire them over men.In this respect, the taliban telling girls to have children instead of jobs is based. We should be doing the same thing.
>>540869055Does Afghanistan have natural gas reserves? Normally landlocked countries don't
>>540869055>they've been conquered and occupied by every fucking invading force that ever set foot into their lands for like the last 2500 yearsBut the shocking thing is that they have been raping children this whole time... openly... and it's like a kind of status symbol... and nobody has been able to do anything about it...
>>540864697>what happened-Operation Cyclone-u.s. leaves taliban in power-CIA shenanigans and murders right before 9/11-9/11 was an inside job-u.s. invades afghanistan and heroin sales go up all over the world-u.s. army burns some poppy fields to increase value-but also for some reason chinese mining sites are protected by u.s. military-prime minister's brother was on CIA payroll for selling heroin-u.s. fucks around and finds out-u.s. spent money to build schools but didn't follow up on it or defend the schools-u.s. leaves weapons, tanks and biometric tech with taliban so taliban can track down and murder any witnesses to CIA activities or military shenanigans-u.s. leaves taliban in power a 2nd time-chinese mining corporations do business with taliban
>>540865968And in the end the real goal of the "nation building" was the enrichment of middlemen between the taxpayer cashflow and the nation being "helped"That's all it's ever been. All the charities, NGO's, wars - They exist for the express purpose of getting a bunch of jewish middlemen obscenely rich off your tax money as they skim 80% off the top of the money flowing around to various projects. Nobody gives two flying fucks if it ever helps anyone because the point is stealing it all, not helping people.That's why you'll see government construction projects sit there taking 20 years to finish whereas a private company funding construction by itself with its own money will get the same type of project done in 2 years for 1/100,000th the price.
>>540864697>Great fighters are shitty politiciansWho would have guessed?
>>540869293Feel free to move to Afganistan or any other muslim shithole
>>540864697>what went wrong with Afganisthan?Caliphates suck ass at effective governmentMany such cases throughout history
>>540869459The ANA government of faggots, pedophiles, retarded cowards, and women, was supposed to take over control of Afghanistan from the US.Unsurprisingly they capitulated to the Taliban about as fast as the Taliban could drive to Kabul, because you cannot actually run a civilization with faggots, pedophiles, retarded cowards, and women in charge.A lesson every western country is slowly discovering as leftism burns itself out after having done tremendous damage to everyone and everything.
>>540864697>>No economic inprovement since then.all the pictures I have seen from afghanistan show no particular poverty, it's just a typical third/second world country with confortable living conditions>>540864697>>Even with china trying to help them sometime, they killed the investors and workers that try to make something.>>540864831>They actually try to invest in some mining there bur the locals kill the chinese workers that try to do it xdyou claim this twice with no source you seem very biased and angry or a shill
>>540865045>>the afghan leadership wasn't buying what we were selling, aka western democracycan we buy what the taliban are selling? it seems to be working great for themhave you seen their birthrates? how much everyone smiles in videos from afghanistan since they won?
>>540869499There's no need, retard. In your dumbfuck arrogance and suicidal leftism you've invited them all into your own country to replace you, while you've castrated and hobbled your own men while you've put your women on a pedestal so they can do absolutely nothing with their lives (certainly not have children)Arrogant faggots like you are going to be learning the hard way over the next couple decades.
>>540869651you mean the CIA took out the secular alphas and then when it was time to leave they gave the biometic data to the taliban to finish off any remaining secular alphason top of CIA shenanigans before 9/11 to murder secular alphasyour shit stinks, i can tell you're lying
>>540866445>In theory they talibán banned thisobviously they did, this kind of degeneracy can only exist under amerimutt occupationpic related, it's a mix of city 17 from half life 2 and gay nigger from outterspace western infernocracy
>>540869388>does afghan have natty gas reservesthey used to in the northern provinces but the soviets basically pumped somewhere between 50 and 100 billion cubic meters of natural gas out of the country and then used concrete and explosives to permanently destroy/plug the well bores
>>540869759>50 and 100 billion cubic metersit's insane just how many resources humanity wastes to accomplish nothing
>>540864697>kicked out
>>540869686So you love living in feminist western degenerate countries too much. Got it.
>>540868826did they? they couldn’t even hold iran.
>>540867544>unlike a lot of other places that were conquered by the muslims, the afghans didn’t adopt arabic.werent they conquered much later compared to arabia and north africa though? the places that adopted arabic?i think its just because its a second expansion wavesame with spain it never adopted arabic, same with east africa and south east asia and central asia
>>540864697>what happened Conquering something by force doesnt work in 21st century. You got ostracized by the international community and that means no investment.
Sanctions
>>540864697communist = thiefmuslim = thiefand eventually there's nothing left to steal
>>540869962They were conquered by the persians in 600bc
>>540868762>Apartheid South Africa did toolol lmao
>>540869747>piciran latches onto any kinda protest movement in the west in hopes of fomenting civil unrest. it’s the same thing the west does to iran except they hand out guns and use agitators.
>>540870749>iran latches onto any kinda protest movement in the west in hopes of fomenting civil unrest.I know memeflags arent famed for their intelligence but the image I posted is from american occupied afghanistanthey had some mural where they painted a bunch of woke globohomo stuffincluding george flyod, other niggers, trannies, jews, and WHAMENthe talibans destroyed all this evil US propaganda after they took over
>>540870749as a reminder for those who forgot, this is what every US embassy on the planet looks like.they literally all fly the gay flag above the US flageverything woke/evil/anti white/anti healthy society originates in america
